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March 7

Referencing plot summaries

I'm watching the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Force of Nature" and looked up the article. I notice that every paragraph of the plot summary is tagged with 'Citation needed'. What reference can be used for a plot summary? Can the episode itself not be the reference? †dismas†|^(talk) 00:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Plot summaries of individual works says: "Because works of fiction are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source. References should be provided if a plot point is ambiguous (e.g. Gaston's fate in Beauty and the Beast)." PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@Dismas: All removed. Thanks for the heads up. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Can't find space in template

If you go to Beacon Falls, Connecticut#Demographics, you'll see that there's a space between the estimated 2016 population and its citation. If you look at {{US Census population}} you'll see that there's no space between the estimate= and estref= parameters. How does one eliminate the space? If you're not an admin, you can still make this change by going to Template:US Census population/sandbox; if you make a workable fix and can't transfer it to the template yourself, let me know and I'll do it. Nyttend (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

There is no space character but estimate and estref are in different cells. Is there a reason for that? Several things can contribute to spacing between content in different cells. The simplest solution seems to be moving them to the same cell. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:19, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new Wikipedia page

We are trying to create a new Wikipedia page but unable to find the link here we can update all the information about the Company article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MobiGarage (talk • contribs) 06:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

This user has been blocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:26, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Kelly

There is an article on Mandarin profanity. It includes an image which I tried to edit, but failed. It refers to a pair of hanzi which it translates as 'Kelly = bad egg'. The real characters in pinyin are 'huài dàn', nothing whatsoever to do with my family name. I consider this as an intended insult and wish it corrected or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.183.75 (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

On the assumption that this relates to Mandarin Chinese profanity (please provide a link to pages you wish to discuss), there is an image of the Chinese characters, which the page interprets as 'huài dàn'. However I was unable to see where 'Kelly' is mentioned. Please clarify. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Apologies Mr or Ms Kelly: this was a piece of vandalism introduced into Mandarin Chinese profanity on 29 December last year, and corrected in this edit on 14 February. Most vandalism gets noticed pretty quickly, but this one took several weeks to correct. However, if you are still seeing it, I think you must be looking at an old version of the article for some reason. --ColinFine (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

To see the current version of a Wikipedia article, access it by way of the Wikipedia website, rather than through a "mirror" site.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:53, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

How to Create My Personal Collection of Articles?

Feeling a bit dumb as I searched a lot. Sorry, but did not find the answer. Thus, could you please point me to the right place to find out how a registered user can create her own collection of Wikipedia articles seen only by the registered user herself and not by other users. Looking for online and internal Wikipedia solution, only (meaning: I do not need to download and PDF's are not necessary). Hope, I have phrased my q clearly enough.  :)

If such a solution exists, is it also possible to make personal categories for those articles (areas of interest)?

Thank you.

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Marko — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.57.113 (talk) 13:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Not possible, all articles posted here are viewable by everyone, registered or not Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:49, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

English is not my mother tongue and I was not able to formulate my q correctly. I do not want to hide any articles. I want to make a personal Wikipedia article collection that I can return to at will for rereading purposes. I other words I would like to Save some articles OR in other words create a list of articles that I deem personally important, so that I can find them again easily. I do not know, what word to use to accurately from your point of view to describe, what I want to accomplish. From my poin ot view I would like to create a permanent view to certain articles I like. I hope I am more clear now.  :)

br,

Marko Finland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.57.113 (talk) 13:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Marko, welcome to the Teahouse! If you want a certain group of articles available for easy access, couldn't you just bookmark all such articles within a folder on your browser? (Oh, this isn't the Teahouse? My bad.) Bus stop (talk) 13:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

As a registered User you could also create a list of such articles on your User page. This would allow for easy and permanent access. (Disregard my first suggestion. As this is a better suggestion.) Bus stop (talk) 14:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Marko! You can do that at your userpage, but I'd suggest creating an account. I'll put instructions on the IP's talk page here . valereee (talk) 14:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Or use the Books extension, which is designed for this exact purpose. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

I am a registered user. So there is this article (Ipso facto - in English) that I would like to "save". 1) Books extension seems to be under renovation at the moment from what I read in the page linked to in the answer above. 2) I do not see "a user page" when I go to this article "Ipso facto". I am loged in Wikipedia with my user name. 3) The user talk page that was kindly provided by you, did not have links to the info I am looking for. I followed some of the links further and arrived to different types of tutorial pages to no avail. Sorry, but could you help me further? Where is this user page? Cn you give me a link or something? I tried to find the userpage (as you suggested that as a solution) as I was reading the Ipso fact article and was not successful.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mheikin (talk • contribs) 14:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mheikin: I've created your user page for you. Feel free to change it around as you need. There's also a basic welcoming message on your talk page. I seriously suggest you spend some time browsing the links, it will pay off by making your work easier. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the User Page for me. I was not able to come up with that solution myself. I understand that there is a strong preference in self help and thus your recommendation is fine. I tried to follow your recommendation before contacting this page to the point it became futile. My observation is that finding a solution to the problem (a common one, I suspect) I described in my question is difficult. Thus I recommend making some additions to FAQ's and Tutorials as regards the topic of this discussion. Thank you for your help! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mheikin (talk • contribs) 15:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Mheikin, WP is very overwhelming at first. One of best tips anyone gave me was to search for help by searching in the "Search Wikipedia" box at the top using WP:search term. Over the years people have set up a lot of redirects that help with finding stuff. For instance, searching WP:user page will bring up ten different suggested help or guidelines pages. valereee (talk) 16:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Mheikin There once was a tool such as you describe. It was called "Gather", however development was shut down while it was still in beta testing. See this RFC, and this page on MediaWiki about Gather. It looks like the software developers are currently working on a similar concept for "reading lists". See this discussion on "reading lists", and this page on MediaWiki. In the meantime though, you've found your userpage and it should work well enough for your purposes. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Mheikin There is unlikely to be a place within Wikipedia where you can keep a truly private list. However, You can create such a list on your own computer in a file of links to URLs at Wikipedia. Depending on your browser and your skill level, there are several ways to do this. I personally use SeaMonkey Composer to create my local HTML pages, but you can use a simple text editor to build a minimal HTML file with a list of URLs. After you build the file, open it with your browser, then just click on the links as you need them. Alternatively, some browsers let you build a hierarchy of bookmarks. Build your list in a bookmark subfolder.-Arch dude (talk) 17:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• • Mheikin, such a facility is available in our mobile applications. If you are interested, download the Wikipedia official mobile app. Details on how to save articles using the app can be seen here. The app also is quite user friendly and would guide you on the same.​​​​​​​ Thanks, Lourdes 03:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

non-free fair use question

I've been working on Ten Talents (cookbook), which has a non-free image of the current edition's cover. The earlier editions show an interesting progression in the cover art. Would including the two covers used for previous editions be acceptable under free-use policies? I wasn't sure how to interpret 'minimal' in this case. Thanks for any help! --valereee (talk) 16:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think your best bet for a well-informed answer to this would be to post it again at Wikipedia:IMAGEHELP. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:51, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I fear that unless you can find reliable sources which specifically discuss the evolution of the cover art at some length, such non-free image use would not qualify as fair use. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:53, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you both! valereee (talk) 09:40, 8 March 2019 (UTC)