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January 18

How to remove the redirect from page "local Realism" to "Principle of Locality"?

Dear wikipedia helpdesk.

The page "local Realism" is now redirected to the page "principle of locality" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_locality#Local_realism

The two titles are not equivalent - Local Realism is a concept that joints the principle of locality with the principle of realism, not just one of them. It's a concept of the foundations of physics , with a particular interest in topics like quantum computing and quantum information technologies. There are numerous examples where the concept 'local realism', or "local realist", is used in about a dozen of wikipedia pages.

Examples: Albert Einstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%27s_thought_experiments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_hidden-variable_theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stewart_Bell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHSH_inequality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Aspect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Zeilinger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_test_experiments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopholes_in_Bell_test_experiments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_nonlocality

There are also pages dedicated to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-realism

It seams that the subject is disperse and difficult to understand.

I'm willing to reconstruct this 'Local Realism' page with an Introduction, a chronological list of relevant events, most distinguished physicists/authors, theoretical advances and experimental results aspects, reusing most of the previously cited wikipages.

How should I proceed?

Thank you for your advice. Teresa F Mendes (talk) 03:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Teresa F Mendes: Begin a discussion (perhaps a copy of this post?) in a central location such as the talk page of the local realism redirect page. Invite folks who have edited the relevant articles recently to join, and post to the talk pages of any relevant wikiprojects (Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics ?) since it's a potentially large and ambitious set of changes. If you decide to proceed, the mechanics are simple: just edit the existing redirect page to remove it current contents (the redirect syntax) and replace it with your new article. Then go find and fix all the incoming links as appropriate. They are listed on the "what links here" page of the redirect/new page. -Arch dude (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude: Thank you.Teresa F Mendes (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Infinite Flight topic issues

Hi. I wanted to find how I can contact an administrator over a topic issue. There have been many attempts by people (including myself) to edit this made to make it more modern and I would like to discuss it with a moderator to understand how I can do this. I do have permission from Infinite Flight LLC and have founded Project Wikipedia to help me. If someone could please direct me to an administrator to get this worked out. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IDubbz4LivesWasTaken (talk • contribs) 03:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@IDubbz4LivesWasTaken: You do not need anyone's permission to edit the Infinite Flight article, and we do not need and do not want the company's permission or involvement. You must use information from published reliable sources (see WP:RS), not from the company or from your personal knowledge. If you are associated with the company, you have an unavoidable conflict of interest (WP:COI) and must disclose this and should make edit suggestions instead of directly editing the article. If you are being compensated in any way to work on article (salary, contract, or freebies) then you MUST disclose this and you MUST NOT edit the article directly. see WP:PAID. -Arch dude (talk) 04:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@IDubbz4LivesWasTaken: After having read the link you provided, I'd like to suggest a (re-)read of WP:NOT, especially WP:NOTPROMO and WP:NOTWEBHOST regarding it is important for the growth of IF to branch out and have their information elsewhere and WP:RELEASENOTES regarding I have been working on adding the update history of Infinite Flight. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 05:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude: I am not partnered with the company in any way, I just have permission from them to edit. I will only keep information in-partial.— Preceding unsigned comment added by IDubbz4LivesWasTaken (talk • contribs) 18:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Where to request code quality review?

I was hoping to see if someone would be willing to give constructive criticism over the current state of User:Moonythedwarf/libavtools.js, and was wondering where i'd ask for this. What board(s) would be appropriate? --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 05:13, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Probably some subpage of Wikipedia:Reference Desk. Howewer, I have already one compatibility one: On one of the last lines, you use Error.captureStackTrace. This is a relative new Technology, contained only in the newest version of Javascript, and will probably throw in older browsers, so you might want to check for its existence somewhere before and add a custom implementation if it doesn't exist or is not a function. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:44, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt mobil, It's v8 exclusive, and is only for debugging. Anything not using chromium doesn't support it. It's just there for now for testing. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 06:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi Wikipedians,

My name is Mike Bova. I'm a recording artist "Duncaine", headliner of the nationally touring Big and Tall Comedy Tour, author "Tidbits from the Sales Pit", and actor "Anti-Heroes". Is there someone who can do a Wikiepedia page for me? Please let me know and thank you for your time and assistance.

All the best, Mike Bova — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1410:C2DF:3CA9:E8B5:43AF:CB09 (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Mike and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages". This is a subtle but important distinction. If you meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable musician(click to review) as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources(sources unconnected with you that have chosen on their own to write about you, not press releases or routine announcements), you may merit an article. You can request that others write one at Requested Articles, but there is an extremely large backlog and it may not be done quickly.

Please understand that Wikipedia is not like social media- article subjects must be shown to meet our special definition of notability. We aren't interested in enhancing search results for the subject, or in what the subject wants to say about themselves. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

There are people in the world who will take your money and write an article for you. However, unless you are notable by our definition, we will delete the article. It doesn't matter how good the article is. Don't fall for this scam. We delete about 200 articles every day. See Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. -Arch dude (talk) 16:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Emailing another editor

I'm sure there's a way of doing this but can't remember how... Alansplodge (talk) 13:13, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Alansplodge: Well, there's the Special:EmailUser facility on the left sidebar (on a user's page), but of course if they haven't enabled email you won't see anything / be able to do so. Is that it? ——SN54129 13:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

That's the one! Many thanks. Alansplodge (talk) 19:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

How to report a bug related to the citation generator

Hi everyone. I'm using the citation generator when adding citations on article by just using the URL. Sometimes, the citation is not generated properly. Dates are filled into the name field and vice-versa. Is there a way to notify this error to the developer? Sociable Song (talk) 16:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I think you can file an issue here. It requires someone to add a new case in Zotero so it might not be fixed for a while. It's not clear to me whether the Zotero project solicits these requests or not, but if it's a popular website it would probably be good to open an issue. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

The github page is for bugs related to the software. From what I see, I need to request someone to do a translator (use the software). Do you know how to file a request? Sociable Song (talk) 16:58, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

​It seems they also include translator requests at this issue tracker, but many requests also come through their forum. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Are there any up to date programs that make patrolling new pages easier?

Only thing I found was User:Kingpin13/WikiAlerter which hasn't been updated in the past decade. Looking for a program like STiki or Huggle. CatcherStorm ^talk 16:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

CatcherStorm, Is Twinkle and the new pages feed not enough? MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf It works, but I was hoping to find a more efficient alternative. CatcherStorm ^talk 19:02, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

CatcherStorm, I'm currently working on a userscript for my own workflow, but that's a) no-where near ready for use, and b) see A.

Beyond my own little schemes, I don't really know of a more efficient workflow MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Having trouble replacing an image

Hello,

There is a map on this article that is in Japanese/Chinese. It was originally imported from the Chinese version of the page. Since it is an English-language page, I modified the map image to include Roman letters for the place names (here). Wikipedia thinks that the new image is suspicious and won't let me replace it. Any suggestions?

Thank you, Jen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennichi (talk • contribs) 17:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jen. Where are you trying to upload your modified map? (You should upload to Commons). What happens that you say is won't let you upload it? File:The Twelve Kingdoms.png is licensed with the GPL, so you are permitted to use and modify it, as long as you provide proper attribution. --ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jennichi: I see from [1] that you tried to use an upload method which has limitations. Use commons:Special:UploadWizard instead. Mention that your version is based on commons:File:The Twelve Kingdoms.png. The license requires that. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:17, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you both, ColinFine and PrimeHunter. I really wasn't sure about the attributions, but the wizard was a big help. --Jen

A submission I was considering submitting however I found the information already published in Wikipedia

On the subject of Auditory Processing Disorder (APD), I was searching for "Auditory processing disorders" because there are multiple kinds of (APD. Nothing came up so I started to create a page. However, I recently found that there is a page called "Auditory Processing Disorder" (singular rather that plural) that has all the information that is needed for publication. I want to delete everything in my draft but do not know how to do that. I will appreciate any assistance to fix the problem I created.

Thanks for your advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UIowagrad (talk • contribs) 18:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

UIowagrad, Howdy hello! I will put the page up for speedy deletion as an "author request". We appreciate that you tried to make some new content, we need folks like you who are willing to fill content gaps! CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Why do Wikipedia makes or ignore unfair advantages it does to some companies?

Some time ago, I have edited the DigitalOcean Wikipedia page, removing the note 34, a link to a so called comparison of DO and Linode. The page, that states it's updated on December 29, 2019 (at the end of the page, on top of the footer), actually does not present an updated comparison. I will only point out two obvious things about why that page is misleading, things that are easy to check even for non-technical readers.

First thing, back in 2015, Linode started to move from Xen to KVM its services. So, Linode, as DO, uses KVM... Second, the lowest price for both of them is $5/month... not as stated on that comparison. This can also be easily checked on DO pricing page and Linode pricing pages.

And as an update, here is the reason why that page have interest in making unfair advantage for DO (hint: because it's a registered affiliate of DO, taking revenue by referring clients): http://www.itekhost.net/digitalocean-review/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.131.195 (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

And I can continue to point out things that is misleading in that article... But my problem here is not that, but the willing of some Wikipedia editors to promote such things, without checking, or without understanding or even on purpose, misleading readers and creating an unfair advantage of a company over others.

I thought Wikipedia promotes truth and doesn't takes parts, but now I start to think there are some groups of interests that work for and have interest in promoting some products/services of some companies and work to mislead readers. And, I could give a lot of examples about pages, mainly in the Romanian Wikipedia, that are without doubt advertisements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.131.195 (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

The english and Romanian wikipedia have different rules, and are effectively different sites. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:51, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

To answer your larger query, unregistered editor, the ease of creating an anonymous Wikipedia account means users with an incentive to promote an organisation (e.g. employees of the company) can easily do so by editing or creating an article, though it is against our policies. Fortunately, other editors are adept at finding these harmful edits, deleting them, and blocking the culprit, though not every edit is caught. You are encouraged to contribute by removing promotional content; if you desire, create an account and edit for a short while to be eligible for tools and editing privileges useful for combatting promotional editors. It requires no more personal information than a username and password. – Teratix ₵ 23:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

AFC reviewing

Can you please take a look at this draft: Draft:To All the Boys I've Loved Before (film series). I'm inclined to accept it, but I just want to make sure it's OK for it to be an article. Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: The correct place to ask for advice or help is WT:AFC (Or possibly the AFC help desk). Another good place to ask is at the appropriate WikiProject talk page. It seems you were not provided with the usual AFC welcome message so I left it at your TP. It's sometimes said; "if unsure what to do, move on and leave it for more experienced reviewers". Eagleash (talk) 20:23, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Thanks for your help. Interstellarity (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Interstellarity, User:Eagleash - My thought is to accept it, but the argument could be made that the series doesn't need an article because there already is an article about the first film in the series. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I accepted it. Interstellarity (talk) 12:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Moving an AFC

Quick question. I moved 2020 in Northern Ireland from draft space to main space just now, not realising at the time that it had been submitted for AFC. I think I've done everything I should in terms of accepting it, apart from removing the AFC template from the article. Will a bot come along to do that or do I need to do it? Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 20:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@This is Paul: - it's no longer there (it was removed by another editor) Nosebagbear (talk) 23:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)