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January 6

Page Name amon martin-preston should be changed to zero the kidd

the page about amon martin-preston should be chnaged to zero the kidd as it depicts his artist name better than his birth name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amonmartin23 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

• Note: The page has been moved by Futballbmo. Eagleash (talk) 04:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Link: Zero The Kidd —[AlanM1(talk)]— 06:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Yonge Street

The Hockey Hall of Fame is actually located on Front street 2 blocks east of Yonge street. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.162.159.88 (talk) 03:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Our article Hockey Hall of Fame gives the address as 30 Yonge St, as does its own website. If you have information to the contrary, please start a discussion on the talk page Talk:Hockey Hall of Fame, citing a reliably published source. --ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Possible multiple copy-vios on B-class article

Diamond clarity has possible vios on it, but I can't tell which came first. first and second page the Earwig picks up on. In the case of the first, I think they pulled from Wikipedia, in which case they may be in violation. Jerod Lycett (talk) 07:44, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

​The first post is dated 2019, but our article already included this info in at least 2017. The second one includes a "This article uses material from the Wikipedia article". So this is just a case of other sites copying from us. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Kitty Gordon

In the article on stage/silent film actress Kitty Gordon, it mentions she had an on-stage gun accident in Chicago with her "husband", Jack Wilson, in 1920, but later in her Personal Life section, you have her married to Captain Henry Beresford from 1904 - 1924. Can someone straighten this out for me? I'm researching her career. Thank you, DBY — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbaylesyeager (talk • contribs) 08:31, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dbaylesyeager: the Kitty Gordon article, like the other 6 million articles on this Wikipedia, was written by unpaid volunteers. There are about 120,000 volunteer editors active in the last 30 days, and each of us does whatever we want to do, with no guidance or direction. You are one of us and you have equal rights and responsibilities with the rest of us. Statements in articles are supposed to be referenced to reliable sources (WP:RS), and the article has several, which you can read. I nominate you as the editor to research this. Feel free to change the article with the results of your research. Just edit the article, or if you prefer, put a note on the articles talk page reporting your research and perhaps another editor will come along and update the article. Come back ere if you need additional help. -Arch dude (talk) 17:22, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Dbaylesyeager. It is unlikely anybody monitoring this page has any knowledge about her: this is a page about editing Wikipedia, not about general questions. You could ask at the Wikipedia:Reference Desk: probably the "Entertainment" section.

The source cited in the article Kitty Gordon, (from the New York Times) does indeed describe Jack Wilson as "her husband and vaudeville partner." If you pick "View History", you can see all the editors who have edited the article; and could ask some of them on their User Talk pages if they have any further information (but they may not all still be active on Wikipedia). But I suspect that if you're researching her career, you may already know more about her than anybody else here! --ColinFine (talk) 17:30, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dbaylesyeager: The section was added in 2009 by a user who hasn’t been active since – and it doesn’t look like there was anything else behind it than the NYT article. Considering there’s apparently no other source for the marriage claim, maybe it was an error on the NYT’s part (or, and this is completely speculative, perhaps a contemporary euphemism)? Cheers ⌘ _hugarheimur 12:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

change of title

I am an employee at Rutherford Health Plc who manages the information and content for the company on the world wide web. I am trying to change the article title for the following page: Proton Partners International

The company is no longer called 'Proton Partners International' it is now 'Rutherford Health Plc' - so the article title needs changing to reflect this. I have tried changing it to other page settings but it hasn't worked, I also can't find how to 'move the page'. Any help would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsykestherutherford2020 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Nsykestherutherford2020 You can visit requested moves to request that the article be moved- but first you will need to formally comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement and mandatory). You should also read about how to make edit requests as you should avoid directly editing the article about your company. 331dot (talk) 10:52, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Publishing

How can I speed up the process of getting my page published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DakHov (talk • contribs) 12:52, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

DakHov There is nothing that you can do to speed things up. As noted in the yellow box at the bottom of your page, there are over 3700 drafts awaiting review, and that it could take 3 months or more. Reviews are conducted by volunteers, who do them in no particular order. It could be done sooner than 3 months, but it will probably take longer. Users who try to 'jump the line' don't usually succeed. You can spend the time continuing to improve the draft; I notice that you have very few independent reliable sources with significant coverage in your draft. I'm also not clear on how this group meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable musical group. 331dot (talk) 12:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

And, DakHov, if your statement on your User talk page "I'm trying to make a page for the Producers called Saltwives" means that you have some relationship with the group or their producers, then you need to study Wikipedia's policies on editing with a conflict of interest. Furthermore, if you are in any way paid for doing this (eg it is part of your job) then you must make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. Bear in mind too that Wikipedia may never be used for any kind of promotion, and that there is no deadline. (Incidentally your User Talk page is primarily for other editors to communicate with you. Unless you ping them, it is unlikely that any other editors will even see any messages you put there, unless they are looking for other reasons, as I did.) --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

New Article Publish Regards

I am completely new to the Wikipedia. I want to publish an article about a person who have created schools and college in my home town. What is the procedure? With Regards, Azarudeen S — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4072:29F:EF45:4B32:F3D:1BFE:C2B0 (talk) 13:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

See WP:HOW. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 13:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Mashood Alam Malik

Hi! My draft of mashood alam malik which is submitted for review in november recieved a notification on november 13 that it has been reviewed. It did recieve some changes as well. Nothing after that. Can i know what is the proceedure next. As it is neither declined nor created. Help or guide will be really appreciated. (HinaBB (talk) 13:49, 6 January 2020 (UTC))

HinaBB Your draft is pending review. As the review notice indicates, it will likely be several months before it is reviewed, as there are thousands of drafts awaiting review by volunteers, who do what they can, when they can, in no particular order. You will need to be patient. You can use the time to continue to improve your draft, or make other edits to other articles. 331dot (talk) 13:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

ThankYOu!!♥♥ (HinaBB (talk) 13:54, 6 January 2020 (UTC))

@HinaBB: One thing that might be causing an issue with the draft is that, although it is supposedly about the actor Mashood Alam Malik, a fair amount of the content is about the film The Cure which appears to be an upcoming production and may or may not ultimately attain notability. There does not seem to be enough, at first glance, in respect of Malik himself to support an article. Please see WP:NACTOR for other appropriate guidelines. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

jak usunąć konto?

jak usunąć konto? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.76.58.126 (talk) 15:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, do you have a question related to using or editing Wikipedia. If so please feel free to post it here. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. To jest anglicky angielska Wikipedia. You might prefer to ask your question at pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy. --ColinFine (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

(in Polish) To jest angielska Wikipedia i na tej stronie nie odpowiadamy na pytania w innych językach (w tym w polskim). Proszę pytać w Wikipedii polskiej, na stronie pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy. Jeśli pytanie dotyczy konkretnie Wikipedii angielskiej, można je zadać na stronie dyskusji naszej "ambasady" Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy.

(in English) This is an English Wikipedia and we don't answer questions in other languages (Polish among them) at this page. Please ask your questions in Polish Wikipedia at pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy. If the question concerns specifically English Wikipedia, please ask it at our Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy page.

CiaPan (talk) 10:37, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Mansi people#References

Since I have no technical skill, why are there two random closed curly brackets at the bottom of that page? Didn't see anything in the wikitext causing it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

There were extra brackets in {{Indigenous peoples of Russia}}. MB 18:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. Looks better now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Changes to my Wikipage

I have discovered that major changes where made to my wiki page Robert Edwards Hunter, on October 19, 2019, without my knowledge or permission. The note says that his is a blurb for a speakers bureau. Not so. I do not even have a speakers bureau. I must ask that you revert to the version of my wiki age that I approved, and make no further changes without my aprroval — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topoli21 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Topoli21 It's not "your Wiki page", but a Wikipedia article about you. You have no special rights to it as the subject, you are no different than any other editor. As Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, your permission is not required to edit the article- and as long as content appears in an independent reliable source it can be in the article about you. If there is incorrect information in the article, you should make an edit request on the article talk page, not edit the article directly. See WP:OWN for more information. 331dot (talk) 18:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

If you are Robert Hunter, you should confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:REALNAME. 331dot (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

The article was reformatted with an infobox and proper sections in October, and the reorganization was subsequently reverted, likely by Mr. Hunter. I restored the reedited version, and removed the maintenance tags that the revision addressed. It would be welcome if another set of eyes reviewed to ensure that nothing important was changed. And Topoli21, please take 331dot's advice about making an edit request on the article talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Topoli21: the subject of an article has less rights to edit the article than do other editors, not more, because the subject is supposed to follow the rules regarding conflict of interest and refrain from editing the article directly. See WP:COI. (Exception: you, and any other editor, may remove unsourced assertions about any living person from any article immediately and without discussion. See WP:BLP.) -Arch dude (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Trying to find the relevant guideline/policy article

Hi, can someone tell me where is that guideline or policy that says something like, in Arabic names we should always use "al" with small letter (a) except when it is at the beginning, so for example it is "Ali al-Yamani" not "Ali Al-Yamani" or "Ali Al-yamani". I want to see if I can request renaming a lot of articles titles that I see violates this guideline or policy and I am not able to find where this policy or guideline is located but I remember that I have seen it before. Thanks in advance.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 19:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: I couldn't find a formal guideline, but there's a section in the Arabic Name article, referencing the Chicago Manual of Style, which may be relevant. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. What I am talking about is in the same page but in the section called "Dynastic or family name". However, this isn't a guideline or policy in naming titles of Wikipedia articles? Also the article doesn't talk about names of places or regions but only talks about family names. I feel like I have seen a policy in Wikipedia about this. Maybe it got deleted for some reason or maybe I am wrong. I will see if I can propose a guideline for naming Arabic articles with "al-".--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

I know it's been discussed somewhere (by me), but I don't think we came to a solid conclusion, as it seems to have different uses and capitalizations depending on country and other factors. I'll see what I can find. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 03:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: Here's a start: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Arabic/Archive 5#The the ال vs family آل issue and Talk:Al-Qasimi#Inconsistency in spelling. I'm sure there are more, and more recent, out there. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 03:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Trying to find an acceptable image of a person

There seem to be many articles about which images are allowed on Wikipedia, and I'm not sure how to determine if an image is allowed or not. When I look on Google images with "labeled for reuse" there are no images which seem to meet the criteria, but on Bing images, there are many images that come up under both "Free to modify, share, and use commercially" and "public domain". (Peggy Siegal - Bing Images) What should I check to make sure they meet Wikipedia's standards? —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 22:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: We are required to obey the law, in this case copyright law. To use an image in a Wikipedia article, we first upload that that image to Wikimedia commons. You are free to place an image there if it has a compatible copyright license or if it is in the public domain. If you find an image on the Internet, it must be explicitly licensed with a compatable license. If it is not explicitly licensed, then by copyright law, it is not legal to copy it. I have no idea how Bing or Google make this determination, but we depend on the uploader to find the license on the web site that hosts the image before they upload it. -Arch dude (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude: Do you happen to know whether Getty Images will be acceptable? They have this license agreement: https://www.gettyimages.com/eula —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 23:18, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

No. In fact, Getty Images is explicitly listed as an unacceptable image source in the policy for speedy deletions. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Flag icons in infoboxes

I understood that one could hover over a flag icon and see the flag's country/entity name displayed. In the infobox of the article Lebanese Civil War there are many flags, but hovering does not identify them, and one must go into edit mode to find out what they signify. Is there a way to turn on the "hover-identify" function for this infobox? Many flags look superficially alike, and readers are not likely to learn to distinguish the flags of Sudan, UAE, Libya, South Yemen, let alone Mourabitoun or the Lebanese Communist Party.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: It's using {{Flagicon image}} and {{Flagdeco}} instead of {{Flagicon}} that's used at World War II. The latter links the flag to the relevant article so if you hover over it, you see a preview of the article if you have the Navigation Popups gadget enabled (or maybe there's a replacement previewer now if you're not logged in or don't enable the gadget – I forget). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 09:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)