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Massar (Company)

Note the improperly disambiguated page title at Massar (Company). The full name of the company is actually Massar Solutions, and I attempted to move the page to that title, but then received a notice that "Massar Solutions" has been protected against creation. Therefore the article creator was forced to use an incorrect title. Meanwhile, I reviewed this article for the Wikipedia:New pages patrol and determined that the company merits an article in Wikipedia (though others may disagree). Can we move the title to "Massar Solutions", the company's true name? Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 00:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Doomsdayer520 Wikipedia does not necessarily use legal or official names as article titles, it uses whatever independent reliable sources commonly use, see WP:COMMONNAME. However, if you feel that the full name is the most commonly used, you may request a page move at Requested Moves. 331dot (talk) 00:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but note that I brought the issue here specifically because all reliable sources use the full "Massar Solutions", and that is also what the company calls itself quite clearly. I will take to the Requested Moves page. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 00:59, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Doomsdayer520 I would suggest asking the admin who protected "Massar Solutions" against creation if the issues have been resolved. They will probably be consulted later in the requested moves process. TSventon (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

My IP address

Hi, just got told that a change made by me has been reverted (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:49.197.107.115) I didn't make this change (and wouldn't, given it was foul). Wasn't logged in, is just using my IP address. Do I need to do anything to prevent my IP address being used in this fashion again? Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, my geekfu is weak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.107.115 (talk) 02:27, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

49.197.107.115 The edit was made on 3 February 2019, so possibly before you started using the address. If your wifi is password protected that is probably all you can do. TSventon (talk) 02:47, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi IP editor. The easiest way to avoid getting these warnings is to register an account and stay logged in. You are not expected to make edits on the account if you do not wish to, but it will prevent messages that are not intended for you from showing up in your notifications. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

This is the right place to ask, but there is nothing Wikipedia can do. Your IP address is assigned by your internet provider, and many providers use dynamic addresses, so that tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or maybe even next time you connect, you will get a different IP address, and somebody else will get the one you were using. If you are not logged in, the IP address is the only information Wikipedia has to identify you, so it has no way of telling whether you are the same person as used that address before. --ColinFine (talk) 09:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Citing a Brochure/Document

Good day. I would like to ask if linking an available online copy is still preferable to citing it as a paper document if the online copy is originally made available by the manufacturer on its website(accessed through Archive.org) as a self-extracting file? I was referred to this page as it was noted that referencing an executable would be a possible security risk. Would uploading an extracted copy of the document be better alternative even though that makes authenticity of the document harder to verify? TheBitterNoob (talk) 05:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

How about providing a link to the self-extracting file (clearly labelling it as such) and citing the paper document? If linking to a self-extracting file really is a no-no, you could provide the URL without doing so as a link: "Additionally, a self-extracting archive containing this document may be found at http://archive.org/evilcorporation/thismaynukeyourcomputer.exe", or whatever. -- Hoary (talk) 06:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for answering will go and do that also i apologize for the late reply.TheBitterNoob (talk) 14:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

How to put Template:multiple image in gallery-like view?

Resolved

— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm using Template:Multiple image to make comparison pictures like below. Then I want to put several of these comparisons in one <gallery> view, however <gallery> only accepts single images per line. The goal is to put each {{multiple image}} inline so that it they are displayed side-by-side, but also wrap on smaller screens. I don't mind to use an alternative for <gallery> or {{multiple image}}. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 10:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended content
Citroën C5 facelift and pre-facelift (left) Chrysler Sebring Fiat Multipla

where should we express problems of other wikis

Hello as you know there are so restrictions against freedom of thought in iran. Iwanna speak about doubted behaviours behalf of fa.wiki managers which form a kind of closed ring user/managers who actually assume themselves as wiki owners! They never critisize eachother, always supporting and standing with eachother. Dispite of all restrictions you know there are in Iran, one of them ownes this username: " Mardetanha " introduces his self as main wiki manager in iran and is promoting his self as main wiki manager! everywhere [1][2]. It means he is easilly accessanle for any third party to reach to users'es info.Furthermore there are very evidences shows managers violations in fa.wiki unfortunately don't solve at fa.wiki by the third person or manager which some of them can threaten users sگnervation and life! Where do yiu think is proper to express issues with detail of other wikis like fa.wiki?دوست من (talk) 12:11, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@دوست من: If you have an unresolved issue which cannot be resolved on Persian Wikipedia, you can submit a request for comment at Meta-Wiki. Danski454 (talk) 12:31, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Danski454Thanks a lot. As you see unlike less important policy pages they even haven't translated thid page in persian! Bad theorems are progressing overthere.دوست من (talk) 13:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

دوست من, This probably is the closest counterpart of the English wiki help desk. I only got there using a translator. You should first voice your concern there. Also, the user you are complaining about is a global Steward. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 13:18, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

دوست من, thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately this is only the help desk for the English Wikipedia. I haven't participated in the fa-wiki but I can say with surety that no one could be having absolute authority. Your first choice should always be to try to solve the matter internally within fa-wiki (if your wiki has an Arbitration committee) but in case that doesn't work you can go to meta's Requests for comment or Help Forum. Also, just to make things clear, this wiki, the English Wikipedia, holds no authority over what happens at the Persian Wikipedia. [meta.wikimedia.org] is the site that coordinates all Wikipedias and projects. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 12:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Neha Saxena ( Name Duplicacy )

Hi team ! I am facing lot of issues with regards to my profile on Wikipedia .my work is getting hampered due to two different profiles with same name on Wikipedia .Where in one Neha Saxena which is me ( Film Actress ) and the other Neha Saxena who is ( TV serial Artist ) .lot of my movie details are going to her profile and her details are getting merged in my Wikipedia page .My Picture gallery is completely messed up in Google search engine .Kindly help .It's been 6 years I am trying to sort this issue but no results .everytime it comes back to same old . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4071:5BF:CDB8:0:0:A8B:98B0 (talk) 13:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

What are the specifc mixups between the articles Neha Saxena (film actress) and Neha Saxena (TV actress)? I have added a link to the latter at top of the former to warn readers and editors to not confuse the two. We are not responsible for Google search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the discussion over here, it looks like you already have two accounts, Neha Saxena Princess and Neha Saxena Artist. Ideally you should only be using one. If your problem is that you can't uploafd a picture to the wikipidea entry for Neha Saxena (film actress) then it was because the images you gave were not copyright-free. If you have a picture of yourself without which you have the legal rights of, you should upload it to Wikimedia Commons by clicking here. Then we can add the image to the concerned article. Regarding the mix and match, it probably is the fault of Google's indexing but if you see content whoch was supposed to be on one article but is accidentally on the other, do let us know.

One question that I would like to ask, which concerns our policy, is whether you have paid/hired anyone to edit the article Neha Saxena (film actress). Also, you must declare a conflict of interest regarding the article. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 14:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

We are trying to help you, but you must help us first. A picture of you was deleted because it did not have a compatible copyright. PLEASE DO THIS:

• Personally take a picture of yourself.
• Upload that picture to Commons, filling in the correct copyright information.
• Place an {{edit request}} on the talk page of Neha Saxena (film actress) with the filename of the picture that you uploaded.

This will make a valid picture available. We cannot force Google or anyone else to actually use the correct picture, but after it becomes publicly available, you will stand a better change to convince Google to use it. -Arch dude (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Multiple lozenges articles

I was looking for details on medical use of lozenges, such as the subliminal absorption of a product (vitamin B6 for example). I understand the legal aspects of delving into medical advice. I was surprised that I could only find mathematical and commercial throat lozenge references. Perhaps I’m not as adapt at search engine’s as I hoped. I’m not even close to being qualified to contribute, but if it isn’t here perhaps this might encourage someone worthy of the task to fill the void I perceive.

If it is there and I simply missed it, I apologize for the bother.

174.247.3.170 (talk) 14:06, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Delivery of B6 in lozenge format seems to be a relatively simple thing that could be added to Pyridoxine#Medical uses. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

I think autocorrect is sometimes fairly subliminal, but in this case I think you mean sublingual. -Arch dude (talk) 19:26, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

broken link

I currently see that there are links that do not exist and I have put in the new link information there to maintain stability and access of users with the above content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxitaimb (talk • contribs) 16:56, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for drawing attention to this. I see it has been dealt with. Maproom (talk) 18:02, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Highlighting parts of the page using the link???

Not sure where to ask this, but decided to start here.

I googled the "National Spanish Honor Society" and the first hit (even before the questions) was to Wikipedia. I'm fine with that,that happens with many organizations. When I clicked on the link it took me to the page, but with several sentences highlighted in Yellow. I immediately went to edit the page to get rid of the highlighting, but there was no code, and when I reloaded the page, the highlighting was gone. What I figured out was that the link from google was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_National_Honor_Society#:~:text=Spanish%20National%20Honor%20Society%20(Spanish,of%20interest%20in%20Spanish%20studies.&text=Each%20society%20member%20must%20have%20taken%20three%20semesters%20of%20Spanish%20or%20Portuguese.

I can understand Google wanting to do highlighting, my question is "Why does Wikipedia allow this?" and "Where is it documented?" and then I think my third question is "How do we get rid of it this capability?".Naraht (talk) 18:32, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Naraht: What browser are you using? This question has come up before, and I think the answer is that it something specific to the browser. Nothing that Wikipedia can do. RudolfRed (talk) 19:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

I can replicate this with Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge on my Windows 10 PC. Documented at https://searchengineland.com/google-launches-featured-snippet-to-web-page-content-highlight-feature-335511 GoingBatty (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Naraht, There is nothing Wikipedia can do about it. It's part of a Google Chrome feature called 'text fragments' and doesn't work on other browsers as it is not a web standard. You can read more about it on this external site. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

To answer the original question of what browser, up to date Google Chrome. And given that it isn't Wikipedia specific, looks like I have to figure out if it *can* be turned off in Google Chrome...Naraht (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Naraht: In short, adding #something to the end of a URL normally goes to the HTML anchor named "something" within a page. It can only find these anchors that have been specifically named by the page designer. E.g., Wikipedia page section titles are all anchors.

Chrome and Edge also have the ability to search for any text (not just those anchors named by the designer), effectively like automatically invoking the "Find in this page" (Ctrl-F) function, by adding #:~:text=something to the URL, which finds something on the page. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Inaccurate Image Marker

Is there any way to mark a map image as inaccurate?

File:Madawaska County NB - Madawaska Parish.PNG is missing two discontiguous parts of Parishes. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 20:31, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

G. Timothy Walton, there are various ways to do so within Wikipedia, but I doubt that any would be acted on. Perhaps make a request, linking to precise information about your proposed change, at commons:Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop (yes, at Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia). If you do so there, refer to "[[:File:Madawaska County NB - Madawaska Parish.PNG]]", which (because you're doing so there) will point to the image as hosted on Commons. -- Hoary (talk) 00:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

G. Timothy Walton, you could also use Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop.   Maproom (talk) 08:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. First suggestion taken, second will be shortly. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Melanie Fontana's Page

The wiki page for Melanie Fontana is incorrect and takes credit for work she didn't do and doesn't give credit to the artists that did, her page is blocked from corrections and it isn't right that the people that deserve credit didn't get it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C8:8100:3680:D56F:134:6B25:61AE (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

If you have suggestions for improving a page, post a note on that article's talk page and other interested editors can discuss it. RudolfRed (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

... but you need to support your suggestions with published reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Disappearing notification

Just a few minutes ago, I got a notification on Wikipedia saying (if I recall correctly) something about me making my "tenth edit". I'm not really sure what was meant by this, since I've been very active on Wikipedia for quite a number of years; I've made a lot more than ten edits, haha. I've been active on Wikimedia Commons more than usual lately, and the notification may have been related to that, but I'm certain that I had already made more than ten edits there too. As soon as I clicked on the notification, it disappeared. Now, when I ask to see "All Notifications", the most recent one to display is from several weeks ago. Can anyone explain what's going on here? Granted, it doesn't seem to be important, but I'm curious. --Jpcase (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jpcase: Special:CentralAuth/Jpcase says 11 Wikidata edits. wikidata:Special:Contributions/Jpcase shows the 10th was just before your post. It was a page move at the English Wikipedia but it automatically makes a Wikidata edit when the page has a Wikidata item. You got a crosswiki notification from Wikidata. It may still show in notifications there but not here. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Ah, okay - thanks for helping me with that! I'm not really sure that I understand what Wikidata is, but I can see now that my edits associated with it are essentially all page moves. So that explains the notification. --Jpcase (talk) 14:57, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jpcase: Wikidata is a database for Wikimedia projects. One of the functions is to keep track of article titles for the same subject at different wikis so the links under "In other projects" and "Languages" in the left pane can be up to date, e.g. at Two Brothers (2004 film) which you once moved. With Wikidata the corresponding link at all other wikis is automatically updated. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: That makes sense - thanks! --Jpcase (talk) 15:26, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Correct the persons last name

How can I edit the name of the heading? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonpurasmentiras619569 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Sonpurasmentiras619569 If you are referring to the title of an article, that requires a page move, which can be requested at requested moves. Please understand that Wikipedia typically uses the most common name of a subject, and not necessarily legal or official names. 331dot (talk) 23:32, 19 July 2020 (UTC)