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May 13

Submission of a multi-section text for creation the Wikipedia article about a notable physician/researcher/academic

Please advice me (and my aid) on the correct way to proceed with the creation of my Wikipedia article, a prepared draft of which includes sections: Introductory, Early life and education, Career/Research (four parts following by the References list), Career recognitions, Marriage and family, and Legacy. Do I need first to settle with the Wikipedia Administration on the Criteria of Notability for Academics, of which I believe I meet at least three conditions? Or might the matter of Notability be settled after the whole draft of my Wikipedia article will be submitted to your attention? Sincerely, Ilya B. Tsyrlov, M.D., Ph.D., D.Biol.Sci.(Biochemistry)DrIlyaTsyrlov (talk) 00:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, would you like to write an article about yourself? If you want to know whether you (or the person you want to write about) meet the relevance criteria, you can look here: Wikipedia:Notability (academics). But you also have to consider that if you write the article about yourself there is a conflict of interest, for more see here: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you have read the pages and there are no questions left, you can start writing your first article with the Article wizard. --Killarnee (T•1•2) 01:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@DrIlyaTsyrlov: I forgot the ping. --Killarnee (T•1•2) 01:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@DrIlyaTsyrlov: It's extremely difficult to write an autobiography that complies with all Wikipedia's policies, particularly our requirement that articles are verifiable and neutral. Please read the advice on this page before deciding whether you wish to proceed. – Teratix ₵ 01:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Killarnee|Killarnee]] (T•1•2) 01:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC) Dear Killarnee, you accidentally misunderstood me, as I wouldn’t like to write an article about myself, and don’t have any intention to write an autobiography (replying to such a suggestion from Teratix ₵ 01:58, 13 May 2020). Having an almost 50-year medical research career in academic, governmental and private settings, initially in Russia and since 1991 in the United States, I’m an author/co-author of 4 books, and more than 250 articles published in peer-reviewed journals, in the fields of biochemistry, drug metabolism, toxicology, occupational medicine, geriatrics, virology, and cancer. That all make me a “notable person”, in terms of strict Wikipedia Criteria of Notability for Academics. Thus I meet at least three conditions required by the Wikipedia Guidelines, such as 1) in 2015 I was elected Emeritus member (fellow) of one of the most prestigious international scientific societies, the ISSX; 2) since the 1980s, I’ve given several distinguished, keynote and invited lectures at meetings of national or international scholarly societies and at 21 universities worldwide; 3) in accordance with what Wikipedia Guidelines reads, "...for information about academic ranks and their meanings. Note that academic ranks are different in different countries", - in Russia I was awarded a prestigious governmental rank of a "Senior Research Scientist" (1980), and in 1983 I received the highest governmental scientific degree of a "Doctor of Biological Sciences", which is at least equal to a "Distinguished Professor" degree in the United States. It’s technically hard to justify my other credentials in this laconic e-mail format, inasmuch as all verifiable data already put in the full-scale draft of the Wikipedia page. The draft was rather edited by me but prepared by my several decade-long colleagues from the Russian National Academy of Sciences (who helped with gathering publications of the 1970s-1980s), the National Cancer Institute (National Institutes of Health, USA), the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, USA, and the Xenotox, Inc, USA. Dear Killarnee, as you and colleagues at the Wikipedia editorial team, would see after uploading the draft, it has just a few lines about my early life and education years, while the rest content is about medico-biological research data and their major clinical and epidemiological implications. So, my initial question on how to proceed with the above draft still exists. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Sincerely, Dr. Ilya B. TsyrlovDrIlyaTsyrlov (talk) 19:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Ref number 7 is wrong - I am sorry - please don't get annoyed and it is hard to fix it up - even if I knew for sure what I was doing. please fix it up if you can. Thanks 175.32.219.132 (talk) 01:43, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Next time, just include one ISBN (preferably the 13-digit one). – Teratix ₵ 01:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I just solved the problem. As Teratix has already written, there can only be one ISBN at a time. --Killarnee (T•1•2) 01:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Would you like to remind us how often you have been told that only one ISBN can be included in one reference? And even if you don't remember from last time, could you suggest any possible improvement to the help page link to Help:CS1 errors#bad isbn to make the statement "Only one ISBN is allowed in this field ..." any clearer to you? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

It says that I have 1 page on my watchlist. Where do I see this page?

https://imgur.com/a/FWEYEyL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moyprofile (talk • contribs) 02:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Moyprofile: At the top right of any Wikipedia page, there is a link that says "Watchlist", which will take you to Special:Watchlist. GoingBatty (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

that doesn't answer my questionMoyprofile (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Moyprofile: When you click on that link it will show you the most recent edit(s) to pages in your watchlist. If nothing is displayed then there may have been no recent edits. Click on the button towards the top right of the watchlist page which says 'edit your list of watched pages'. This will list out the pages on the watchlist. Eagleash (talk) 04:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Change picture in article

The page for the artist Daniël Mijtens has an image of one of his portraits, of King Charles I of England. There is a much better image available to use in png and jpg formats here and here . How do I change the image on the Wikipedia article instead of the inferior image of the same artwork that is currently used? Boleslaw (talk) 02:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

References

@Boleslaw: You would change:

[[File:Charles I by Mytens, 1631, National Portrait Gallery, London.JPG|thumb|Charles I by Mytens, 1631.<br>[[National Portrait Gallery, London]].]]

to

[[File:Charles I by Daniel Mytens.png|thumb|Charles I by Mytens, 1631.<br>[[National Portrait Gallery, London]].]]

GoingBatty (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

How to upload image file of historical document?

I possess an historical document i.e. a Miner's Right for gold mining in Tennants Creek from 1935. I wanted to upload an image of it into the Mining section of the entry on Tennant Creek, but the upload requires I have copyright on the document. I don't think I do, so how should I proceed? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safronicus (talk • contribs) 02:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Safronicus: I hope this policy will help you: Wikipedia:Image use policy GoingBatty (talk) 03:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family

I am sorry to bother you - this is a difficult problem.

There is a book I'd like to add in the "Further reading" section on the above page. This is the book as it appears on commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lupton_family_crest.jpg

It is called "The Next Generation: A Sequel to The Lupton Family in Leeds by C.A. Lupton (1965)", written in 2001 by Francis Lupton (Dr Francis G. H. Lupton OBE 1921–2006)

Can it be added a "resources" or "further reading" - I have seen a copy in the library of The Grammar School Leeds.

Thanks for any help and p-lease fix if you can - you are all cleverer than me 175.32.219.132 (talk) 05:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@175.32.219.132: Hi! This book is mentioned in this article as a family memoir, but I can't find any identifying information like ISBN or at least a publisher. You may want to ask frequent editors of this article on the relevant Talk page, since it may require a deeper understanding of specific sources such as locally-known written works. Juliette Han (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

It seems to be this book. Perhaps Srbernadette, the uploader of the commons image, can help. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

yes, please add this book - above- as a source, I cannot do it. 1.136.107.66 (talk) 08:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@1.136.107.66: Done as per WorldCat. Juliette Han (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Amendment to Template:Trans-Australian Railway

I would like to add:

|image_upright =

to the Template:Trans-Australian Railway template in order to optimise the size of the lead image. However, I lack the knowledge to do so. Can anyone help? Cheers! SCHolar44 (talk) 12:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@SCHolar44: Hi! I automatically adjusted the size of the image to the infobox. Is that what you meant by 'to optimize'? Please let me know. Juliette Han (talk) 14:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

In case you are curious how this parameter should be inserted in this template:

{{BS-Infobox2
|box_width = 22em
|image = Map of Australia's east-west rail corridor.png
|image_upright = 1.25
|image_size = 

Values are optimal. Template would look the same. Juliette Han (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Juliette Han: Perfect! Thank you! I've noted the solution for future use too. SCHolar44 (talk) 23:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't find a page that I've been to in the past

There used to be a wiki article about superpowers. It had an entire chart of different kinds of superpowers, mental, energy, physical. With links to examples from Heroes, Avatar the Last Airbender, DC, etc. Your superhero article is now much less helpful than that old page. Was it deleted or edited or can I just not find it? Or is this a Mandela effect situation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.129.236 (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you certain that it wasn't someplace else, like TV Tropes? It sounds more like their kind of content. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

It sounds like List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction which was deleted in 2018. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

The deletion discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Facts that are contrary to date

Hi Folks, I have two sets of books that report a fact on two different times, explicitly 3.58am on 26 August 1941 or 3.58am on 26 June 1941. This is for the Red Orchestra article, persecution section, attendant to the discovery of the groups. What do you do when the facts are contrary? Both sets of an documents are excellent references, but contradict each other. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 16:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Report the difference in the article: "at 3.58am on 26 June 1941 or 26 August 1941 (sources differ)" ... -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Any other approach constitutes original research, unless there is another equally good source that provides strong evidence that one is more likely to be correct. If there is such a tie-breaker, then my vote is to put the more likely date in the article text and reference all three sources in an explanatory footnote. This is still getting close to original research, so use your editorial judgement, and/or discuss on the talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Arch dude:, that is ideal. I've posted a message to the DE wikipedia, to see if they can come back with some clarification but it will probably will take some weeks. Yip, to second message, that is ideal. I know that was some new research completed in 2010, and certainly some of the references are before 2009, so it could be that, but I'm not sure. I can always update it, several years up the road, if it becomes clearer. scope_creep^Talk 17:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding every page in a category to my watchlist

There are a few categories for which I'd like to add every page to my watchlist. Is there a faster way to do this than opening up each article one by one? CJK09 (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@CJK09: No, there is no way to watch them all other than by adding them one-by-one. RudolfRed (talk) 20:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You can make your own watch lists. Special:RecentChangesLinked....like

• Watchlist of changes to articles listed at Category:COVID-19

• Watchlist of changes to articles listed at {{COVID-19 pandemic}}.

--Moxy 🍁 21:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that tip, Moxy. I was not aware of the technique, but I already see how I can use it. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:53, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia page updates

Hi Team Could you please let me know who do we submit page updates to? It is a bit unclear as it appears some pages do not get updated automatically even if there are available news articles published/citations on the internet. Any help on this is much appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arantxa147 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Arantxa147: If you have a WP:COI, you can post an edit request on the talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Arantxa147: Articles are not updated automatically, and no articles have editors assigned to them. Any editor can edit any article. New information is added by editors such as yourself who think the information will improve the article. Each editor is expected to follow Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. Out of this chaos, over the course of the last 20 years, the world's largest and best encyclopedia has emerged. -Arch dude (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

photo update

How do I update an old photo? I don't own the previous photo, however, I'm trying to update the photo that appears on the page with a new photo? how do I do that? I've tried Wikimedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.16.48.98 (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you own the copyright to the new photo, and are you happy to release it under a Creative Commons licence? If "yes" to both, then upload it to Wikimedia Commons. The place to ask about that is there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to search Wikipedia for reference to a particular book?

Months ago, I wanted to verify whether a claim was actually supported by a cited source and put in a request for the book cited at my local library. It is finally available but I have forgotten what article contained the claim. Is there a mechanism for searching for the article, using the book's title or ISBN as the search key? Peter Brown (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Try using Google and type in "site:en.wikipedia.org <book title/ISBN>". I tested it out with an ISBN in a given article and it worked for me. bibliomaniac15 21:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You can search words or phrases in Wikipedia by doing so directly at the search special page Special:Search......like.... Theory of Justice. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-00078-0.--Moxy 🍁 21:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Picture Upload Issues

Hello,

I have made several attempts to try and upload a picture. However, I'm having issues.. Are you able to assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladym1106 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Possibly, if you take the trouble to describe the "issues". (Spending much time guessing from no evidence what these "issues" might be? No.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Also asked on the Teahouse (and got a similar response). Ladym1106, please don't post the same question in multiple places. --ColinFine (talk) 22:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

You've got more responses at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Picture_Upload_Issues. Please pursue the matter there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Sarah and Catherine Isabella Losh.

How do I talk to you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derick Quinn (talk • contribs) 23:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Derick Quinn: You can discuss edits to an article on that article's talk page. Just edit the talk page as you edited this page to ask your question. Here is the talk page: Talk:Sara Losh. You might want to make suggestions on that talk page instead of editing the article directly if you are having problems. It take a bit of practice to get ti right. Please do not get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 23:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)