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June 26

1939 and 1940 sec regular season champions for alabama basketball

Hi, I think you should add alabama basketball 1939 and 1940 sec regular season titles on their wikipedia page under conference regular season titles since they are shown on the sec basketball champions homepage and remove their 1934 sec regular season title and keep their 1934 sec tournament title since they won it.

            Thank you 
            Rohan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrkulka (talk • contribs) 01:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rrkulka: I suggest you post your request on Talk:Alabama Crimson Tide men's basketball, along with a reliable source, and hopefully another editor will be able to assist you. Happy editing! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

how to create article page for dance educational institute

Dear Sir, I need guidance on how to put wikipedia page of dance education institute in wikipedia ?

Start by finding at least three reliable independent published sources which discuss the institute in depth ("independent" means, not written by the institute or its employees, not based on its press releases, not based on interviews with its representatives). Then write a draft based on what these sources say, citing them as you go. Maproom (talk) 10:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kanak Rele. To add to Maproom's answer: Wikipedia is not a place to tell the world about yourself or your projects. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. So only if such sources exist about the dance school will it be possible to create an article about it: the article will not belong to the school, will not be under the control of the school, and won't necessarily say what the school would like it to say, as it should be based almost 100% on what independent people have published about the school, not on what the school says or wants to say.

Furthermore, creating a new article that is accepted is very very hard for inexperienced editors. If your school meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then somebody will create an article about it.

If you wish to go ahead after this caution, then please start by determining whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which is what Maproom's answer is about). If it does not, give up. If it does, then read your first article, and be prepared for a gruelling and frustrating time as you put aside everything you know about the school and try to write a neutral, non-promotional draft based on what the independent sources say. --ColinFine (talk) 11:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Getting A Wikipedia Page

Greetings, and I have a question. How do I obtain a Wikipedia page for myself? I am an active practicing poet since high school. Have written ten books, and received numerous awards. Your response will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Sincerely yours, Ambassador, Professor, Dr. Joseph S. Spence Sr., (Epulaeryu Master)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6000:B308:A300:20FD:CB38:4CB2:1581 (talk) 07:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not have mere "pages", it has articles. Those articles are typically written by independent editors, and they summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person(or in your case a notable writer. If you meet that definition, independent editors will take note of your career and choose to write about you. Trying to force the issue by writing about yourself isn't always the best course of action. While not forbidden, autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged, in part because people naturally write favorably about themselves. To be successful in writing about yourself on Wikipedia, you would need to set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on what others have said about you; most people have great difficulty doing that. Please see Your First Article for more information.

Note that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Claimed free license

Can I upload a claimed free license files to wikipedia? claimed free license is I have found a files published by free license but I also found other source that has copyright statement as same as copyright law, Can I use it to wikipedia? For example, a photo release under free license but I found other sources of same photo isn't.Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: Do you have a particular image in mind? If two sources disagree about the licensing of a particular image, you have to do your own analysis. The experts are at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, if you need help. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: There are three possibilities: 1) The non-free version was improperly copied to create the "free" version. 2) The "free" version was improperly copied to create the non-free version. 3) The copyright owner, perfectly leagally, created both version. You must try (hard) to figure out what happened. If (1), we cannot use it. if (2) or (3), we can use it. -Arch dude (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I mean non-free version was improperly copied to create the "free" version at websites out of Wikimedia source, claimed to copyright holder actually copyright infringement. e.g. a photo on Flickr claimed it is release under CC-by-sa, but nobody knows it actually a copyright infringement without original author's permission.Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: If you have reason to believe a non-free image was improperly copied and the copy was claimed to be free, then do not upload the "free" image to Commons or to Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 23:34, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-free logo

What is the recommended pixels size for non-free logo? I have uploaded a 509×509 pixels non-free logo here. Can someone check and review it? Qat Sad (talk) 14:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qat Sad with non free items the lowest practical resolution which allows the item to be used is required. SInce it is substantially smaller where it is deployed may I suggest that you reduce the size to match the article you have used ity on. We ask for wise pragmatism,. You have displayed this by asking the question Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 14:44, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qat Sad There is a template {{Non-free reduce}} that I have added to the page. In most cases this will happen automagically on your behalf. I've used it myself, once with a surprising result that the image was embiggened, not ensmallened. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 15:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent: okay... Qat Sad (talk) 16:35, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-article qu.

Is there a place on the page on cross searching categories? Thanks. Ema--or (talk) 17:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ema--or. I'm not sure what you mean, but does Petscan help? --ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

How to clear Wikipedia search history

This is a bit odd, but I'm having a technical issue. Wikipedia seems to have memorized a list of six searches I previously carried out on Wikipedia, and displays them to me when I click into the Search box. Once I start typing, it goes to the regular suggestions, but when there's nothing typed into the box yet, the "search history" pops up below.

I'm 98% sure this isn't due to browser cookies - I've cleared all my cookies for all Wikimedia projects from Chrome twice now, and it still happens. I cannot find a Wikipedia setting that is causing this or way to clear it. Oddly, the six searches that appear seem to be static - it's been the same six popping up for the past year or more. How can I clear this and get Wikipedia to "forget" that I've made these searches? Thanks for the help! Ganesha811 (talk) 17:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

For reference, this is what it looks like (https://ibb.co/cwnfKVP) - I've crossed out a few that would be personally identifying. The pop-up is oddly inconsistent, appearing about 30% of the time I click into the search box, no matter what page I'm on. Ganesha811 (talk) 17:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ganesha811: Search Histories In Chrome can't be cleared that easely, as they are saved into the google account (if Chrome knows it...) There are a few suggestions in this support thread Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I am pretty sure that if you log out, clear your browser history, and log back in this will dissapear. I am 99% sure Wikipedia itself doesn't save your search information. If it turns out I am wrong, let me know and I will raise hell about it. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Guy Macon, Victor Schmidt, thanks for your help. I cleared the cache, browser history, *all cookies*, and autofill data excluding passwords in Chrome, and that seems to have done it. I did have to log out and back in before it applied, though. Ganesha811 (talk) 19:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ganesha811:. I've had the same "problem" with the Edge browser, which now uses the same engine as Chrome. A simpler solution is to hover over each individual entry and a "trash" icon should appear to the right. This allows any or all entries to be removed one-by-one. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Problem with subheadings

Hi,

I edited this article [1] to add a new entry to the first table.

For some reason I can't understand, the subheading "Under construction or proposed" has been moved to be before the first table, instead of after it (where it was originally).

In the editing window it appears to be in the right place. Why does it now appear in the wrong place and how do I fix this?

Thanks, Mark— Preceding unsigned comment added by Marben100 (talk • contribs)

@Marben100: Hello Mark, The error was actually simple: the closing |} must stand on its own line to be recognized by the software. I have already fixed it for you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Victor, much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marben100 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Senator Josh Kimbrell page

I am a member of the South Carolina Senate. A group of political opponents of mine have used your page to attack me over false allegations regarding my son and a custody battle 6 years ago that was settled in my favor and involved false allegations later disproved, dismissed, and after which I was awarded primary legal custody of my son.

If Wikipedia continues to allow this misinformation to be posted, I will file a defamation and slander lawsuit against Wikipedia as a member of the South Carolina Senate. I demand this cease and desist immediately — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicora26 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Chicora26: in case you don't check your talk-page, I'll post here too; legal threats are often inappropriate at WP, so I've referred this to the administrator's noticeboard (incidents) for their consideration. At a personal level, I'd point out that if someone has cited a source, your quibble is with the source, not WP; if they have not cited a source, your best action in the first instance is to request that someone remove the uncited statement on the Talk page rather than here. Elemimele (talk) 21:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

• Blocked for the legal threat. 331dot (talk) 21:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Josh Kimbrell --Orange Mike | Talk 21:11, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

• For what it's worth, I was the editor that wrote the article; to classify me as "a group of political opponents" of Senator Kimbrell would be inaccurate to say the least. The sources provided in the article fully back up the content that I wrote, so the Senator's gripe (as Elemimele pointed out) would be with those sources rather than with WP. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm perfectly willing to accept that there might be later press coverage that disagrees with the earlier reports; but this talk radio host did not offer any such information, just jumped in hurling accusations and threatening lawsuits. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:22, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

According to the article and the source it cites, the charge against Kimbrell was dropped for lack of evidence (not disproved as he claims above, ok; but dropped). My view is that being accused of a crime and then having the case dropped does not in itself warrant a mention in Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 23:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

And I think we all would be willing to hear that request from this senator, but he's got to drop the legal threats. 331dot (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Agree with Maproom. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2021 (UTC)