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March 30

George Floyd's death page

Why does the page not include reference to the official autopsy, which found the following:

"Last week, Chauvin's criminal complaint cited a preliminary report from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office in which it was determined that Floyd likely died from a combination of underlying health conditions, being restrained by police, and any potential intoxicants in his system. There was reportedly no physical evidence that he died of asphyxia of strangulation."

This is from the same webpage that is cited for the claims that two autopsies ruled the death a homicide. No statement is included that those autopsies were paid for by George Floyd's family for use in their planned civil suit against the City of Minnesota.

It seems unreasonable to lock a page from being edited that is biased in one way or the other, which claims to be unbiased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danesei (talk • contribs) 02:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Danesei: Not sure if you're referring to the George Floyd article or the Killing of George Floyd article, but the best place to discuss the article is the article's associated talk page. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Care to take a mulligan on the topic area you're working in? —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 00:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Danesei Wikipedia does not claim to be unbiased. Any bias in reliable sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. Those sources are presented to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias and other factors. As noted, the article talk page is the best place for this sort of comment- though I suggest that you review the talk pages as I suspect you are not the first to bring this up. 331dot (talk) 00:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

How to edit a locked page

Hi I am the sports manager of Ankita Ravinderkrishan Raina (India's top tennis player in Women's category). I want to edit some information in her wikipedia page but it seems that the page is locked. There is some unwanted personal information mentioned which we want to take off from the page. It would be of great help if you can help us or let us know whom should we contact for that. Below is the link of her page -

Ankita Raina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.112.53.156 (talk) 07:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

First, please review conflict of interest and paid editing. You may make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, Talk:Ankita Raina, detailing changes you feel are needed. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

help from Ssundee pigs need it

help pigs form ssundee pig aboose — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.1.243.61 (talk) 09:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

This is a help desk for editing the English Wikipedia. Do you have a question about editing? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Newspapers.com

I applied for access a while back (weeks? a month?), but never heard back. Is Wikipedia supposed to notify me or is it newspapers.com? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:12, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You should get an email from Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. Please follow up on their talk page Shushugah (talk) 09:15, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Mon Wiktionary

We need help for our new created Mon Wiktionary. When we create a new page, we want to have it shows a box which difference script, IPA, template etc., under the page like Myanmar Wiktionary (my.wiktionary.org) does. --Htawmonzel (talk) 10:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Htawmonzel: It uses mw:Extension:CharInsert. Myanmar Wiktionary has code in wiktionary:my:MediaWiki:Edittools and wiktionary:my:MediaWiki:Edittools.js. The only Mon wikis are Wikipedia mnw: and wiktionary:mnw:. They don't currently have Edittools pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank for your reply. Is it possible for you to make Edittools pages for Mon Wiktionary and I can translate/edit it to Mon? We really need it. --Htawmonzel (talk) 15:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Htawmonzel: It requires a local interface administrator to edit wiktionary:mnw:MediaWiki:Edittools.js. I see the wiki doesn't even have a normal administrator. A global interface editor can also edit the page. Requests can be posted to meta:Steward requests/Miscellaneous, but you may need tested code ready to go before making a request. I cannot help with that. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:58, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page for my textiles brand

How to create a wiki page for my textiles brand palam silks? Also, the changes which I made for the last contributions have been reverted. Is there any other procedure to contribute to the wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandhiyanandy (talk • contribs) 10:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Sandhiyanandy. I'm afraid you appear to have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. If you (or anybody else) manage to create an article about your brand (not a "page for" it), the article will not belong to you, will not be for your benefit, will not necessarily say what you want it to say, and will say little or nothing that comes from you. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If such independent sources do not exist, then please give up now: you will be wasting your own time and other people's. If the sources exist to establish that your brand is notable, then we can have an article about it, and you are permitted to create a draft (though discouraged). You will need to read about editing with a conflict of interest and to make the mandatory declarations specified in paid editing. Be aware that the extremely difficult task of writing an acceptable Wikipedia article is even harder when you have a conflict of interest, because it is likely to be difficult for you to forget everything you know and believe about the subject and confine yourself to what independent commentators have said about it. If, after this warning, you wish to try, please start by reading Help:your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 12:09, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Create My Google İnformation Panel Help

https://g.co/kgs/dSBiqd My İnformation Panel Please Add Me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamitdaylak (talk • contribs)

Hey Hamitdaylak. We don't really have any direct control over what is displayed by Google when someone conducts a search. They pull information from a variety of online sources, of which Wikipedia may or may not be a part, according to whatever rules they are using. GMG^talk 12:19, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hamitdaylak: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. If a person has a Wikipedia article then Google will often show a knowledge panel with an excerpt from the article. That is not why we write articles and we don't control whether and how Google uses them. There is currently no Wikipedia article about you. An arcticle should have sources to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people). See Wikipedia:Autobiography if you think about making an article yourself. It is strongly discouraged. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Promotional content on Wikipedia and Wikidata is strongly discouraged, but the way you'd do this is mainly though creating a Wikidata item - Google scrapes Wikidata for their knowledge panels. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:06, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Jakhauli, Sonipat incompetent editing

I've had some issue trying to restore this page, and have admitted the need to seek aide, because I ran aground, across the channel. Please send many many tugs and dredging equipment. When I tried to restore an older version, I got a screenfull of red 'riting telling me I'd tripped the edit filter. I think I need help from somebody who works at a higher level of ability to fix it. Please. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Fixed now, thx if it was somebody here. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 13:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Publication

i created a page since last year but i cannot get it published i edited several times. please i need a guide on how to make the page public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abkfirst01 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

It's ready for review, so you don't need to do anything else. That said, the article in its current state would most certainly be rejected. There are very poor quality sourcing, spelling mistakes (Alhai instead of the correct Alhaj). Shushugah (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Abkfirst01. I'm afraid that what you have done in Draft:Alhaji Ali Kotoko is to build a house on sand: the foundation of any Wikipedia article is the independent reliably published sources that contain significant coverage of the subject. You have not one single source that meets these criteria (Wikipedia is user-generated, so it is not a reliable source, and can never be used as a reference; vymaps.com may be reliable, I don't know, but it does not have significant coverage of Kotoko; and the Guardian article doesn't even mention him.) It follows that not a single piece of information about Otoko in your draft is supported by a published reference, and it should (as things stand) all be removed.

When you try and build a house on sand, the best thing to do is to knock it down. Then you can start again, by surveying the land (finding the sources) to see whether it is possible to build a house there at all (whether the subject is notable or not). --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Apart from not being reliable, the Wikipedia articles don't mention him either. The only listed source which mentions him is Vymaps and they say they have more than 200 million listings. This one appears to be autogenerated from his Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/HON-Bakari-Ali-Kotoko-Our-Hero-1844608752255849/. I did a Google search and Our Hero reminds me of this guy. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Renaming a page

How do we change or request a change for the following page so it's name accurately reflects its content?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guildwood

This page should be named Guildwood Village which is the proper historic and present-day name for this community (neighbourhood).

The first sentence should read: "Guildwood Village, also known as Guildwood or the Guild, is a residential neighbourhood in Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario, Canada." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildwoodian (talk • contribs) 18:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Guildwoodian: such a move might be controversial - use WP:RM (go to the talk page and open a requested move, the instructions on how to do so are on the page I linked). Elli (talk | contribs) 19:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response, Elli. I took a look, far beyond my technical knowledge and capabilities. It's too bad this system is so complex, the error and misrepresentation will live on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildwoodian (talk • contribs) 19:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Guildwoodian: Toronto seems to think it's just Guildwood,[1] as do the Scarborough Historical Society ("Guildwood, often called 'Guildwood Village'")[2] and the Toronto Star.[3] Clarityfiend (talk) 20:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am with the Guildwood Village Community Association established more than 60 years ago, www.guildwood.on.ca Guildwood Village is called Guildwood Village and is sometimes nicknamed as Guildwood or the Guild. The City of Toronto "Neighbourhood Profile 140 Guildwood" you reference is a Data Package made up by SPAR and consists of Stats Canada Census Tracts which are misaligned to the actual boundaries of Scarborough Village and Guildwood Village. While I know a lot about Guildwood Village, it's creation, history and architecture, I'm not able to navigate the complex system of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildwoodian (talk • contribs) 21:15, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Guildwoodian. In general, Wikipedia works from the reliable sources, rather than some elusive "truth". (See verifiability). In the case of the names of articles, that appears as the policy of using the name which appears in the majority of the reliable sources, even if this is not the official or legal name. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

This is excellent information! Thank you, Colin! Your information as well as the reference above to the City of Toronto's current SPAR Profile 140 which is named "Guildwood" but doesn't accurately represent Guildwood Village in boundaries OR data has sparked an idea - we will write an article about the name confusion and share that on www.guildwood.on.ca - presumably, after all, we are considered a reliable source on this subject. Thank you, again!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildwoodian (talk • contribs) — Guildwoodian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

And who is "we", pray tell? --Orange Mike | Talk 03:03, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect social media links

Hello, I represent Councilmember Marni von Wilpert and in the preview box there are social media links that are linked to inactive social media accounts. How do I edit the social media links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarnivonWilpertD5 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@MarnivonWilpertD5: Hello, I can see no social media links at von Wilpert's article, which is here, and it is not customary for us to include them. However, it may be that you are referring to the results of a Google search which often displays information in such a way as to imply that it comes from Wikpedia. Wikipedia has no control over what Google displays but there is a feedback link at the foot of their 'knowledge panel'. If you intend to edit von Wilpert's article please read WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter page is mandatory under the terms of use) and make the necessary declarations. Your username is also an issue (unless you are actually von Wilpert) and you should request a change ASAP at WP:UNC. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 20:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Delhi is the capital of India

On the web page

It is mentioned that 'New Delhi' is the capital of India, which is wrong. New Delhi is just one of the 11 districts of Delhi(National Capital Territory of Delhi). The political map of India is available at Government of India website , which shows the region as Delhi. Google Maps shows it incorrectly as New Delhi.

Moreover, the NCERT book (National Council of Educational Research and Training is an autonomous organisation set up in 1961 by the Government of India) titled 'The earth our habitat' of 6th standard Social Studies mentioned at page number 51 that 'Delhi is the National Capital'. Link to the book can be found here . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4072:6406:1AF7:9119:F59F:6034:C9A0 (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

References

Wikipedia summarizes what the preponderance of independent reliable sources say, and most of them call New Delhi the capital. If you have evidence that sources are saying differently, please offer them at Talk:New Delhi. 331dot (talk) 20:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Note that existing posts at Talk:New Delhi show support for New Delhi as the capital. We don't always follow official names but the official https://www.india.gov.in/india-glance/profile also says "Capital New Delhi". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I am not a paid editor but I have been accused of being one. How do I get an article posted?

I am not a paid editor but I have been accused of being one. How do I get my edits posted? User:GSS and User:John B123 are claiming they have evidence I was paid to edit an article and hence violating Wikipedia policy. They have moved the article I posted to draft. I categorically assert that I have not accepted and will not ever accept payment, either directly or indirectly, for Wikipedia edits. I have communicated with both Wikipedia users and stated the same, but they refuse to move back the article I posted to main. This is borderline harassment and is against the very principle of Wikipedia. Here is the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gia_Merlo Respectfully, Interfever (talk) 23:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Interfever, let's put aside the matter of payment for a moment. It appears that you once corrected the birth year of Luigi Zingales, but that all your other editing has been to, or closely related to, one economist and one psychiatrist. The pair are married to each other. You uploaded a photograph of the psychiatrist that you stated was your own work; this hardly looks like a casual snap. This does strike me as an odd contribution history: am I missing something here? -- Hoary (talk) 03:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Interfever, you created the page just two days after this advert was posted on Upwork which suddenly disappeared after the page was published. Please note that the advert is not deleted but protected so only the freelancer who was hired can see it. GSS ^💬 07:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Well well, so many best Wikipedia specialists. -- Hoary (talk) 08:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Just $1,250 to hire them all for an hour. Sounds like a bargain. - X201 (talk) 08:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: Yeah there are so so many of them and they have now learned how to trick us here. GSS ^💬 10:52, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

GSS and Hoary, I was a student at Rice University and when Antonio Merlo (the economist) was named dean, my friends and I contributed to edits of his Wikipedia article. His wife, Dr. Gia Merlo (the psychiatrist) was also a very popular professor there, teaching and mentoring premed students. A friend reached out to me a few days ago and told me that she is now at New York University and just published a great book with Oxford University Press and asked if I could help edit her Wikipedia page. I gladly agreed. They are both wonderful people and helped so many students during their time at Rice. I do have a picture of Dr. Merlo back from the Rice days, which I used for the post. What is the crime here? Can someone please remove their objections so Dr. Merlo's page can be moved back to main? She deserves it. Respectfully.Interfever (talk) 10:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The picture that you are referring to looks like a selfie, and if I'm not wrong it was taken from Facebook as per the metadata (Special instructions) @Fitindia: can you please confirm? You said a friend of yours reached out to you to asked if you can edit her page and you agreed, the psychiatrist was hiring freelancers on Upwork and just two days after the advert was posted you created her article and the advert disappeared which is a very common practice these days. What was there to hide? I have the screenshot with me if anyone interested to see it. GSS ^💬 11:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

GSS, now I get the concerns. I reached out to Dr. Merlo to clarify since I was not aware of this backstory that you just provided. She told me that she did indeed create an Upwork account and put a post that six people responded to and all suggested that there may be issues with paid contributors on Wikipedia. Dr. Merlo is an expert on professionalism. This is the subject she taught at Rice University and the topic of her book. Therefore, after the feedback she received from the people who responded to her Upwork ad and talking to her former students, she decided to immediately remove the ad from Upwork. It was one of her Rice students, my friend, who suggested that her former students all thought that she deserved to have an article on Wikipedia to recognize all that she had done. This is how they reached out to me since they knew I had some experience with Wikipedia from my Rice days as I explained above. So again, I am not receiving any compensation. You can reach out to Dr. Merlo herself to verify. She told me she has proof from Upwork that she did not hire anybody. I am simply the megaphone for hundreds of Rice students whose lives where positively impacted by Dr. Merlo. If someone else wants to take credit for the article and post it under their name, we would be as happy. Recognizing and promoting the accomplishments of successful women of color should be something we can all embrace, especially these days! Respectfully.Interfever (talk) 12:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

You know what? I have the screenshot of the advert that confirm Gia Merlo did hire a freelancer on March 26 and then changed the visibility of the advert to private and her page was created by you just two days after. If someone else wants to take credit for the article and post it under their name, we would be as happy. that's ultimately going to benefit you and it's not going to happen. I have already shared the details with paid-en queue and I won't be adding more details here. GSS ^💬 12:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Indeffed. MER-C 18:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)