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December 20

Not sure if this is BLP privacy violation

An editor keeps using primary sources like trademark applications and corporate databases to edit in the legal names of performers who are known by a stage name. Reliable secondary sources do not identify their real-life identities, but do say they "lead private personal lives". I’m not sure what to do, but this feels like an inappropriate use of primary sources, but I’m not sure if anything needs to actually be redacted. Umimmak (talk) 06:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Should also be noted this editor has a history of BLP violations, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cornmazes&oldid=1124504487 Umimmak (talk) 06:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Umimmak, your first step ought to be to discuss your concerns with the other editor. Have you done so? If they dismiss your concerns or refuse to respond, please raise the matter at the Biographies of living persons noticeboard. Cullen328 (talk) 06:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay I made a comment at Talk:Boulet Brothers#Personal information, I wasn’t sure if this was worth bringing up to Wikipedia:Requests for oversight, I’ve never done that before, or if it matters that they’ve previously been warned for doing similar things in other articles, but that makes sense that the article talk page is a good place to start. Thanks for the tip about that noticeboard as well. Umimmak (talk) 06:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

update, I figured I should be cautious and report to oversight just in case; hopefully that’s okay. I’m not really sure when it’s being too cautious as I’ve never done that before. Umimmak (talk) 07:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

How to Write Content in Wikipedia & Edits in Wikipedia?

Hey !

I am Bhaskar Upadhyay I was recently Creating account on wikipedia. Because I am new at wikipedia. I don't have any experience in Wikipedia. So, Please give a support to me for creating page, Edits & Links on Wikipedia. Assurmedpharma (talk) 09:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Assurmedpharma A good place to start is the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 09:16, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I've put a welcome message on your user talk page, with a link to an introduction. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:18, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation where article titles are dissimilar

I’ve drafted up a disambiguation page at User:TheOnlyZac/The Learning Company (disambiguation) but I’m hesitant to move it to mainspace because I’m under the impression that disambiguation pages are namely for distinguishing articles which may be mistaken for one another by title alone.

The issue I’m trying to solve is that the Learning Company brand has been passed around so much that a user searching for “The Learning Company” may be looking for any of five (and maybe more) companies depending on who owned/was using the brand at a given time. I do believe it is an issue that’s worth addressing because I’ve seen editors putting information on the wrong articles since sources tend to just refer to the Learning Company name/brand without always specifying the parent company.

So does this merit a disambiguation page like the one I’ve drafted, or does anyone have a different idea? — TheOnlyZac (talk) 09:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheOnlyZac: Disambiguation pages are also for likely search terms so your purpose is fine. WP:DABCOMBINE is about combining similar likely search terms whether or not they are page names. Note the initial bolding in MOS:DABPRIMARY and not using redirects in MOS:DABPIPE. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I understand now, thank you for clarifying! — TheOnlyZac (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi protected page edit request

Please do this edit request. Requested many days before. 103.166.245.232 (talk) 10:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

We don't know to which edit request you are referring, but if you made a formal edit request, it will eventually be reviewed by a volunteer. Please be patient. 331dot (talk) 10:12, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Click this link. I requested in "change X to Y" format. Can you please do now? 103.166.245.232 (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

As I said, it will eventually be reviewed by a volunteer. Do you have a particular need for the edit to be urgently made? Wikipedia has no deadlines. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I'll be happy if it was done. Thanks. 103.166.245.232 (talk) 10:31, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

It has been, just now. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

donation

trying to make a donation (yeh a small one). I use a vpn saying I am based in Glasgow. No matter how many times I turn the vpn off , restart or whatever else I try, your site insists I pay in pounds. I am actually in Australia, if you can offer a suggestion how I can pay in that currency, then I will donate. 2001:8003:AC60:3200:400E:C970:B62D:644D (talk) 11:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Please direct inquires about donations to the email address donate (at) wikimedia dot org. We editors have nothing to do with the donation process. 331dot (talk) 11:58, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I can say, have you tried clearing the cookies in your browser? 331dot (talk) 11:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

i see wiki users with when you click on their talk they have something like has edited this many is part of the reverting edits group how do i add that

how do i add that to my talk page DMPenguin (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @dmpenguin: i can't understand what your question is. lettherebedarklight晚安 16:00, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@DMPenguin You should probably read WP:UBX and the pages linked from there, which explain how to add all sorts of things to your User Page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

thanks DMPenguin (talk) 16:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@DMPenguin: when you see something interesting on a page (user, article, or other), you can look at the wikisource of the page by clicking the "edit" button to see how the page was constructed. To avoid actually editing the page, do not hit the "publish" button after looking at the source: just leave the page. -Arch dude (talk) 16:44, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

ohhh thanks DMPenguin (talk) 16:45, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Inconsistent display of a paragraph in different tools

I was reading the Israel Shahak article in the Wikipedia app on my phone, when I noticed some problems in the last para of the Biography section. For example, the Wikipedia app on my phone displays the following text:

traitor, and enemy of the people.[g] traitor, enemy of the people.

Looking at the same article in Safari on a Mac, I see instead:

traitor, and enemy of the people.[g]

I opened the article for editing (in Safari), hoping to fix it.

When using Visual Editing, some of the missing text which shows up in the Wikipedia phone app appeared.

I went into Source Editing to try to understand what is happening, but don't understand various bits of syntax being used there.

Please could someone help with this particular article.

Please could someone also bring this to the notice of the appropriate person or group as it seems to indicate inconsistent handling of (possibly erroneous) wiki syntax by different tools.

Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 17:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

There was a footnote inside another footnote, which I think may have caused your problem. Can you check again now? ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 17:23, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

At least for me, Madeline's fix resolves the issue in the iOS Wikipedia app. That said, nested footnotes should be displayed properly in the app, and I submitted a bug report. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Misha Wolf (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

(Hmm, now I don't seem to be able to get into the visual editor, so am responding using the source editor.)

Thanks, that fixed the incompatible display between the devices for this particular instance of erroneous syntax.

Now what about the other issue, namely the fact that this incompatibility arose here, so may have arisen elsewhere too, and may arise somewhere in the future? It would be good if there were to be an automated process for detecting and fixing such errors and/or if the mobile Wikipedia app displayed wiki markup in the same way as browsers do (assuming that Safari is representative of browsers, which it may not be).

Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Donation

Is there a way to prevent your donation spam, without registering? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.153.155 (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

If you maintain cookies in your browser, this may help prevent the notices from repeating, but it may not work for all. The surest way to stop seeing them is to create an account and turn them off in the account preferences. It's also more anonymous to use an account. 331dot (talk) 18:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

It's not "our" spam, but messages from the Wikimedia Foundation. Feel free to contact them via email at donate (at) Wikimedia dot org. 331dot (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

TL:DR, no there isn't, see WP:NOBANNER for how to do this when logged in.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:23, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Our page was deleted

Our Wikipedia page. Applied Minds, was deleted and I've tried to find out why by checking the deletion logs to no avail--it has just disappeared. I'd like some insight as to why and who deleted it. We are currently working on updating it but didn't expect it to be deleted. Thank you, Tracy Dulle Applied Minds 72.109.115.187 (talk) 19:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you give this account to one person and leave it that way as shared accounts are not allowed on Wikipedia. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:00, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Applied Minds was deleted by a WP:PROD because Not a notable company. Also, the article is outdated and lacks inline citations. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Firstly, the OP is presently an IP adress (=>not logged in).

Tracy Dulle, multiple things:

1) Applied Minds wasn't Our Wikipedia page, it was a Wikipedia article about your company. articles are not owned by their subjects.

2) Please review the Wikimedia Foundation Terms of Use. Undisclosed paid editing is prohibited.

3) If you intend to register an account, please review the username policy. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 21:32, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

If you are wanting to work on it I could restore it to draft space to be worked on. There are some issues with it. First of all, all the sources cited are just dumped in the references section at the end instead of using inline cites. Second, they all use bare URLs instead of providing full citation information. The first thing that needs to happen is that someone needs to figure out which references support which content in the article and match them up. Next, the references need to be examined in light of the notability requirements to see if the company is notable. Then update any outdated information, citing appropriate sources for that.

Let me know if you want me to restore it as a draft. Also, I recommend registering an account. It makes it easier to communicate. You will also need to make the necessary paid editing disclosure. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:47, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Something wrong with image formatting

On the page Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, the first two images should be appearing in the "Early life in Britain" section but are appearing in the "Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha" section does any one know how to sort this out? Llewee (talk) 22:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@Llewee: Fixed with {{stack}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:Thank you that's very helpful--Llewee (talk) 23:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

More precisely, they are appearing just below the infobox, but left-aligned. Maproom (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@Maproom: Does that always happen automatically?--Llewee (talk) 23:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@Llewee: It can happen when the infobox is followed by other right-floating elements. {{stack}} is the solution. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)