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June 3

How to prevent this?

I recently implemented a praise template of mine into Twinkle's warn feature, so "warning" people for making "exceptional vandalism reverts" is easier to do. However there was an undesired side effect: see this diff. The message added at the end and my signature is now in a box with monospace font. This does not look good, and this does not happen for all the other warnings. How do I fix this? interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Interstatefive: There's a space before your second paragraph, which causes it to render as monospace font. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Let's see if putting that space in <noinclude> tags will work. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 15:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

It did! Thanks. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 15:34, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Enable 2FA/MFA for login

Hello,

Can you please enable 2FA/MFA for login?

Thanks, Demetrius Pinder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmeech (talk • contribs) 03:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The 2FA setup that is in place has been repeatedly described as "not fit for purpose" for several reasons, which is why it is intentionally an opt-in affair. Efforts to make it mandatory for admins have gone nowhere until the implementation is fixed. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 03:24, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Madmeech To request 2FA go to meta:Steward requests/Global permissions#Requests for 2 Factor Auth tester permissions and fill in the form. As alluded to by the name 2FA is in a testing state and is not a finished feature. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 05:03, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for the insight. Madmeech (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Does this work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8081:3700:573:E4:9C82:CD04:D192 (talk) 04:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Welcome. Did you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? RudolfRed (talk) 04:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Picture of yearbook cover in article about school

Hi, can I take a picture of the cover of a school yearbook, and add it to the article on the school? Greg Lovern (talk) 05:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

There would be various WP:NFCC issues if it contained a photo that was copyrighted etc.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:57, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The one I have in mind does not have a photograph. It has a line drawing of the school's sheild/emblem. The artist is uncredited in the yearbook and I have no idea who drew it. Greg Lovern (talk) 09:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by line drawing, but perhaps you mean something like this. It could depend uplon the copyright status of the shield/emblem itself. If it's something that is considered to be protected by copyright, then the representation of it on the yearbook's cover might also be considered protected. Which school are you referring to? (Are you, by chance, referring to Riverside Christian School?) When was the yearbook first published? Is there already another image of the school's shield/emblem being used in the article? -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's an example of what I mean by line drawing. Yes, Riverside Christian School in Yakima, in its previous incarnation as West Side Christian School. It's the 78-79 yearbook. There's no sheild/emblem in the article, and the school is now using a very different one. Greg Lovern (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The shield and R combination logo currently visible on the school's official wesbite seems too simple per c:Commons:Threshold of originality#United States to be eligible for copyright protection. So, you could probably upload that to Wikimedia Commons under the license c:Template:PD-logo by just following the instructions given at c:Commons:Upload wizard. Once the file has been uploaded, you just need to add it to the |image= parameter in the main infobox. If the older shield imagery is more complex than that (see Wikipedia:Copyright on emblems), then it would likely be still protected by copyright per c:Commons:CB#Coats of arms or c:COM:CB#Drawings based on photographs (just replace the word "photograph" with "shield/emblem"). In such a case, any photograph taken of it would be considered a WP:Derivative work, which means that the copyright status of the shield imagery itself would need to considered separately from the copyright status of the photo you take. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia Skin Problem

Hello! I have a problem with Wikipedia recently. Every-time I log on into my Wikipedia account, the entire Wikipedia page changed to the old skin (pre 2010 i suppose). I need the normal Wikipedia skin back. Please help me. Thanks! TheConservativeDemocracy (talk) 07:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@TheConservativeDemocracy Go to the appearances settings here Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering and in the "skins" tab change the selected skin to "vector". 192.76.8.78 (talk) 07:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

OMG. Thank you so much! You are a livesaver! I even thinking of delete this account and start a new one. Thank you so much kind stranger! TheConservativeDemocracy (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

How to add a bibliographical reference on a page which is semi protected, ie blockchain

Hello,

I would like to add in the 'Blockchain' page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain) the following bibliographical reference to the following sentence 'based on work by Stuart Haber, W. Scott Stornetta, and Dave Bayer.[3][6]' because it has a chapter actually describing the history of how Dr Stornetta and Dr Haber have discovered the blockchain technology based on a direct interview of Dr Stornetta.

The reference is: Vartavan, C. (de) Blockchain Impact! Pages 13-21. Projectis Publishing. London, 2021.

Please advise how to do this as I cannot find anyway to do this even when I login.

Thanks,

Lionel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lionelcp (talk • contribs) 09:00, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Lionelcp Blockchain/cryptocurrencies is a contentious area, and many articles related to it are protected from editing by new/IP users to prevent disruption. You may make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, that details the edit you wish to see made.

Editing about blockchain has special rules, I will notify you of these on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:04, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Anybody can request an edit to a protected or semi-protected article by raising an edit request (see the link for the details) on that article's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 09:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

How to align numbers

I know there is a template to align different digits numbers, such as 55, 100. It is something with {0|55} or such... Can someone please help me out?

Also why can I not find this under MOS:NUMERAL?

Thanks Wikiinger (talk) 10:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Wikiinger I'm not quite sure what you mean by align, but does {{Round}} do what you want? 192.76.8.78 (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Wikiinger Or is it {{0}}? 192.76.8.78 (talk) 10:44, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, this is what I was looking for. By align, I meant align in a table (one below another). Thank you. Wikiinger (talk) 11:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Username Inquiry

Recently updated username, is it possible to have all past contributions and edits updated to reflect username change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tboz (talk • contribs) 10:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Tboz Renaming your account transfers the edit history from your old name to your new name. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

ADIPEC Exhibition on Wikipedia

Hi There,

I'm Omar Aref, the Digital Marketing Manager for the ADIPEC Exhibition. I've created a new account so I could have ADIPEC on wikipedia. Are there any restrictions when posting own content on my account?! The content that I will be posting in the future will be from our own brochures that we have LIVE on our website.

Thanks, Omar — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADIPEC Exhibition (talk • contribs) 10:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

ADIPEC Exhibition Accounts are for individuals, not organizations. Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselves and what they do, it is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources say about topics that Wikipedia deems notable. 331dot (talk) 11:03, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Also please note that if Wikipedia ever does have an article about you, it will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, and may end up saying things that you would prefer it didn't say. Please see an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Help with new categories

I recently created a couple of new categories. Since I'm new to this, I wonder if someone could have a look at them to see if anything else needs doing to them. They're both book related, so I used other similar categories as guides.

They are Category:Peter Grant (book series) and Category:Works by Becky Chambers. I used 'works' for the Becky Chambers one as she's written novels, novellas and short stories.

Thanks in advance KaraLG84 (talk) 11:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

KaraLG84, they both look fine. I removed the sort key " Novel" from the Peter Grant (book series) category. TSventon (talk) 12:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@TSventon: Fantastic. Yeah I didn't realise that sort key was there. I was probably using a category link's syntax as a guide and forgot to delete it. KaraLG84 (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@KaraLG84:, sort keys are a very minor issue, but it is probably worth selecting edit to see if there is any code which looks wrong. More minor points, Becky Chambers didn't need to be in italics and Becky Chambers doesn't belong in Category:Works by Becky Chambers. TSventon (talk) 22:18, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Person uses WP:PROD for suggesting edits.

Hi, what do I do when someone nominates a BLP article twice for WP:PROD.
The article is not a WP:BLPPROD violation
Also the reason they give in the second time is that the article needs expansion of a certain section. They also state that the article focuses too much on a particular aspect of the person. Is this standard use of the WP:PROD or shall I report this user to ANI or some other place? >>> Extorc.talk 13:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

An article can only be WP:PRODded for deletion once; it's not eligible to be re-prodded once it has been WP:DEPRODded, even if deprodded in bad faith. WP:BLPPROD only applies to BLPs which are completely unsourced (e.g. without any references or external links); as soon as a reference is added, the article is no longer eligible for BLPPROD. If you've deprodded the article already, there's no need to do anything more. If someone still feels the article needs to be deleted, they will need to start a discussion about it at WP:AFD. There's really no need to report anyone for prodding or deprodding an article. You only need to report them if their editing becomes disruptive or otherwise problematic. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly:Start by engaging with the user on the user's talk page or the article's talk page. politely explaining your understanding of the intended usage for PROD state that teh use seems to be trying to use it differently. Do not escalate unless this fails. You have just as much right and responsibility to do this as any other editor including admins. Arch dude (talk) 15:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Why did you address your reply to me Arch dude? I didn't post the original question. Perhaps you meant to respond to Extorc instead? -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure. Thanks for the advice. >>> Extorc.talk 15:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Feeling uncertain about the WP:GAN criteria.

I've written a good handful of articles, and I've promoted Mount Eerie (album) to GA status. But, I've been thinking about another album article I wrote, Coin Coin Chapter Three: River Run Thee, recently. The article is a bit short, and going off other GAs, GAs are usually much longer. But I believe the article (mostly) passes the criteria. But it got me thinking— if an article has a certain amount of sources, and they are all used up and written into prose, but the article is still not broad or long enough, will that article never be able to be a GA? Are there an amount of articles–most articles even—that will never be able to become GAs?

My question is, would someone mind assessing Coin Coin Chapter Three: River Run Thee for how close it is to GA status, and if it will ever be close enough? — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 13:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

You'd be much better placed asking at WT:GAN Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:27, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thank you. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Bo Hopkins

Bo Hopkins Long time American Actor Died May 28 Not Posted. But you Did Post a Drug Lords death... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:7F0F:CB6F:D9B:420C:7381:D955 (talk) 13:24, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

If you are referring to the Recent Deaths box on the main page, postings there are the result of nominations made at WP:ITNC. ITNC can only consider what is nominated. 331dot (talk) 13:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

...and scores of "notable people" die every day. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:50, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Bo Hopkins would not be acceptable to post on the main page because it is orange tagged as not compliant with the neutrality policy. If you can help revise it to be more neutral, then it can be nominated for recent deaths. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Deaths are also listed at Recent deaths and in the sidebar of Portal:Current_events. He is currently listed in both these locations. Rmhermen (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Changing a bunch of protected templates

I'm trying to figure out what to do about this thread at VPT. The solution seems to be replacing {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} (and all its variations) in numerous unblock-related templates with {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. The problems for me are that 1) They all seem to be protected at some level, so I'd have to make requests on the individual talk pages, and 2) As best I could figure out via search, there are a hundred or more templates with that particular string of code. Yikes. Is there a place where I could make a single request for such a mass change? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates perhaps? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:04, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Is there a bot that will do it? See WP:Bot requests. (And by the way, the two strings you've quoted above are the same apart from the italic. Looking at the thread on VPT, I think you meant to move the twiddles outside the braces). ColinFine (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine, the difference is the embedded template link in the first example, which is what causes problems with Visual Editor. I'm not sure how to word a bot request - some templates use variations, like unblock-un, so it's not straight search-and-replace. I'll try the suggested talk page above, couldn't hurt. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The templates have been changed, with assistance from several experts. Thank you help desk! 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Locked out of Company Wikipedia Page

Hi there, A person at our company created a page ([[1]]) years ago and the information is now out of date. The admin on the Wikipedia page, has left the company and her login credentials are lost because her email was disabled. Is there anyway to turn over admin access to this page to myself so that I may have the page updated with factual information?

Thank you, 2001:1970:55E8:4700:ECA4:CEC5:FBB5:A81D (talk) 16:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC) Rebecca Shore

There is no such thing as admin access for an article - no one editor owns an article and as someone who is affiliated with the subject, you need to read WP:PAID and WP:COI. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

To expand on what Praxidicae said, Rebecca: your employee should not have been editing Wikipedia's article on your company in the first place. You (and anybody else from your company who intends to work on the article) should:

1. Create an account (an individual one for each person). You may call it something like "Rebecca at CASPer" if you like, or your name (as I do), or a pseudonym, but not "CASPer" or anything else which suggests you are editing for an organisation.
2. Make the formal declaration of yourself as a paid editor (see the link from Praxidicae)
3. For each change you would like to see to the article, make an edit request (see that link for details) on the article's talk page, and an uninvolved editor will eventually review your request, and decide what to do with it. Remember that Wikipedia is not interested in what you say or want to say about your company, but only in what people who have no connection with it have chosen to publish about it in reliable sources, so you will improve the chances of your suggestion being implemented by citing such an independent source. ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

That page is in need of a BuzzCut^TM. I'm going to try to bring it up to standard. If you don't like it, tough - you and your staff agreed to this sort of thing whenever you made edits. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The correct link to the page is CASPer. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:03, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Your company does not have a "page" here. There is an article about your company here in this encyclopedia called Wikipedia. That your company created the article is highly irregular, and it's a bit surprising that the article is still here. That article seems to have some special protection on it; I'm not conversant on that, but I don't think it's specifically aimed at anybody at your company. But in general with Wikipedia articles, anybody in the world can edit them, and as long as the edits are properly sourced as factual, they can stay. And someone who happens not to like those facts, if they can't provide reliable sources that the facts are wrong, there's really nothing they can do. Uporządnicki (talk) 14:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

How do I Stop contributions for every month??

I NO LONGER WANT TO GIVE THIS ORGANIZATION MONEY. How do I stop it??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C3:C800:7D80:651D:33C3:2B7B:EAB5 (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Contact donate@wikimedia.org for help. RudolfRed (talk) 16:32, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

See also donate:Cancel or change recurring giving. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Question About Automated AFD Correction

I started an AFD nomination with Twinkle. (I started several of them. This question is about one of them.) A comment was then entered in the AFD, saying: This AFD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to (the daily log) - robotic signature. My question is whether I did something wrong. What I am inferring is that something that should have been automated was skipped, and another automated process did what should have been done. Is my assessment correct, in which case I should do nothing other than watch the AFD? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Since you were using Twinkle to transclude the Nomination, you yourself most likely did nothing wrong yourself. Looking at the version difference from the log, it seems like Twinkle accidentially lost a $ character during the transclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamza Abo$$ (Artist), which caused the AFD to not be transcluded at all, which was sort of fixed by Cyberbot I by inserting a correct transclusion. The incorrect transclusion was later removed by Explicit Spiderone. In this case it seems as Twinkle seemed to not properly deal with the "$"-Character. Another case where the log transclusion can be skipped if one closes or navigates the tab with the Twinkle AFD window before Twinkle is able to send the log transclusion API call. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Edit: Correction, the incorrect transclusion was removed by Spiderone. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm. Should complications of the use of the '$' sign in titles be mentioned in WP:Technical limitations? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:32, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, User:Victor Schmidt, User:Spiderone - I see that there is a bug in the handling of a double dollar sign in a title, and that the bot is doing what it is paid to do, and that putting special characters into article titles can cause 'special' things to happen. Should a bug report be written? I realize that this is a low-priority matter, both because this sort of special characters in a title will not often be encountered, and because the bot did insert the correct transclusion. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Really odd. Do we know why one of the $ did transclude successfully but not the other? If it had a problem with '$' entirely then it would come out as 'Hamza Abo (Artist)' - strange that it omits one '$' but not the other. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:49, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

I looked at it again. The error is in MediaWiki:Gadget-twinklexfd.js#L-1212. According to [2], the character sequence "$$" (and several other) are special sequences when passed as the second argument to String.replace and result (in this case) in a single "$" in the output string. This means that when the original page title contains any of these special values, unexpected results are the consequence. fixing this error is actually quite simple, you have to check wether the original page title contains "$", and if so, you have to double all occurences of it, thereby escaping them to result in a single "$" when the replacement is made. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:30, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Getting Aricle Created

I've been asked by my employer to create a Wikipedia page for the company, Zeevou. I have asked on my talk page and was "strongly advised" not to create the article myself, as there would be paid conflict of interest. I've tried to go through a process on requesting the article to be created, however was confused at the section where it asked me to choose a general topic. The company I work for it a hospitality, more specifically a community for hospitality businesses to help grow, as well as a management software.

My question is what is the easiest way to get this page created? I can provide multiple sources of non-biased information about the company, how do I request its creation?

(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zeevou&action=edit&redlink=1)

Thanks. GBZeevou (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Based on a Google search I just did (string:zeevou) the answer is "you can't" - Even if you requested it, the sources just don't exist to justify an article on the company. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:41, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@GBZeevou: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and we want an article on every subject that is notable by our definition. We do not want (and will delete) any article on a subject that is not notable by our definition. See WP:N and specifically WP:NCORP. Unless you are certain that your company is notable by our definition, do not waste any of your time or ours on this effort. -Arch dude (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, GBZeevou, note that if an article is created about your company, it will not belong to the company, it will not be controlled by the company, it should be based on what people unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about it, not on what the company or its associates say or want to say, and it might end up containing material that the company does not want it to. See An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 10:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

@GBZeevou It is unfortunate that your employer asked you to do this. Based on the above advice, the task is likely not doable. A conflict of interest (trying to create an article about a company that you work for) is not insurmountable, but if there are no independent, reliable, published sources on which to base an article, then an article will not be accepted. And as others have said, the article must show that the company is notable. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:12, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Help Please!

So i found out you can print Wikipedia. So when i print it doesn’t show the Wikipedia logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.173.177 (talk) 22:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

That's how printable versions of web pages generally work - it just prints the main text of the page, and none of the logos or links. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 22:16, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Citations

Can you cite an online music streaming platform/service in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catsandgurdies (talk • contribs) 22:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Catsandgurdies. If the site meets Wikipedia's definition for a reliable source and is used in the proper context, then it should be OK to cite. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

However, info sourced from an online music streaming site does not add to a subject's notability. And the number of times a song has been played is not usually relevant to an article. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding Images

Can you add an image to a Wikipedia page that is from a social media platform? Also, how do you add an image to a page separately from the infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catsandgurdies (talk • contribs) 23:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Catsandgurdies: Almost all images on social media are copyrighted. You may not use an image on Wikipedia unless its copyright explicitly licensed under an acceptable license such as CC-BY-SA. If you cannot find the image's license, then you must assume the image is restricted by copyright and we cannot use it. To use an image, upload it using the upload wizard :Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. To use the image in an article, use the "File:" syntax (I usually just look at the source of any example page to get a worked example). -Arch dude (talk) 00:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Catsandgurdies. Whether the image can be uploaded and used largely depends on whether it's protected by copyright. You can find a very a general guide at Wikipedia:Image use policy, but it best to assume an image is copyrighted unless it otherwise clearly says it isn't. You might also want to take a look at this, this and this for further information. The general licensing for most social media sites is too restrictive for Wikipedia's purposes, and being freely viewable online (or even freely downloadable) isn't the same thing as being free from copyright protection. You also need to be careful in that many persons upload files to their social media accounts that they don't own the copyright on and in some cases may even try to claim ownership over it as explained here. So, when in doubt, it's probably best to seek assistance at either WP:MCQ or c:COM:VPC before uploading files.

As for the second part of your question, it's fairly easy to add an image to an infobox. You can find out how to do that here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

If you succeed in uploading an image to Commons, it will give you the string that you need to add to an article to display the image in that article. ColinFine (talk) 10:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia Articles for Podcasts

A producer I know is planning to use verbatim Wikipedia articles as the texts of various podcast series, which he will then sell. Is this legal? What disclaimers or citations should he include? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:500:B600:C064:79AB:CD44:863F (talk) 23:37, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Copyrights. Anyone can reuse and adapt any Wikipedia text and most Wikipedia images for any purpose as long as the resulting work attributes Wikipedia. The exact form of the attribution is flexible, but it must tell the viewer or user of the resulting work exactly where within Wikipedia the materiel can be found: "I got this from Wikipedia" is not sufficient). The producer must be careful with any images that are used since Wikipedia uses some images under a "fair use" rationale: check each image separately. The fact that Wikipedia asserts "fair use" does not mean that the same image would be "fair use" in a different context. -Arch dude (talk) 23:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

One very important caveat: the podcasts become derivative works of the Wikipedia articles, so they must be licensed under CC-BY-SA. That means that anyone can copy them and use them for free as long as they attribute the producer and also attribute Wikipedia. These third parties can also adapt the podcasts, add commentary, make satires, or whatever, under the same rules. -Arch dude (talk) 14:39, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Just going clarify that Wikipedia non-free files have "non-free use rationales", not "fair use" rationales. Wikipedia's non-free content use policy is much stricter that the concept of fair use under US copyright law, but different countries may also follow a different concept than the US. The important thing to remember is that Wikipedia's general licensing really only applies to text content; for images, you will need to check them separately as explained above, at WP:REUSE#Images and other media, or at c:COM:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)