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November 8

Removing Image

Hello,

Someone uploaded an image for Alex Prager without our consent here. How do we go about changing the image?

Thanks! Alex Prager Studio Bvpicts (talk) 00:29, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Do you own the copyright to that photo? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Bvpicts: The file you removed (File:Alex Prager in 2022 02.jpg) actually seems OK for Wikipedia purposes since it appears to have been uploaded by the person who actually took the photo. Are you claiming that this photo wasn't taken by its uploader Cmichel67. On the other hand, the file you uploaded (File:BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg) has some issues that need to be resolved in order for it to avoid deletion. Do you mean c:COM:CONSENT when you say that the first photo was uploaded without our consent? That's really the only "consent" that matters when it comes to photo copyright matters and Wikipedia (Wikimedia Commons), and it would only matter if you (or whomever is "our") actually owns the copyright on the photo; otherwise, your "consent" isn't really needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I uploaded BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg because the artist does not want Cmichel67 image on her page. We own the rights to the BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg as we took it. This image is ©ALEX PRAGER and Courtesy of Alex Prager. Please let me know how to add the information so that it is not deleted. Thanks! Bvpicts (talk) 01:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

While we may possibly take what Prager 'wants' into consideration, neither she, nor anyone representing her is required to 'consent' to Wikipedia using a properly-licensed photo of her. As for the new image, it is unclear under what license it has been released. You need to rectify that. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

...regarding the above, the image has to be released to a suitable free license, which means that the image can be copied, edited, and reused by anyone, including for commercial use. are you willing to release your works as such? if not, the image will be reverted back to the previous one used and your image will be deleted, since we do not accept copyrighted material (even when wikipedia has a license to use it) unless it is free content. for more on this, please read Donating copyrighted material. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 01:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Bvpicts: Please stop removing the speedy deletion template I've added to the file's page. I've posted a more detailed message on your user talk page explaining what needs to be done in order for the file to avoid deletion. If you continue to remove the template without addressing the relevant issue in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policy, then not only will the file end up deleted but your account will likely end up being WP:BLOCKed by an WP:ADMINISTRATOR for edit warring. If you read what I posted and have any questions, feel free to ask them on your user talk page and I will be happy to try and help you sort this out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

If you are in any way employed as part of Alex Prager Studio, then you are in breach of Wikipedia's terms of service by editing the article without making the mandatory declarations as a paid editor. I have tagged Alex Prager as having been edited for payment. In any case, please study carefully the policies on editing with a conflict of interest, and do not make any further direct edits to the article: use edit requests instead. ColinFine (talk) 13:41, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Late Problems with Using Wikipedia

As of the last month, or so, I am continually being delayed in my private research when using Wikipedia. These delays include "Captha" error messages (often with no image to `verify') as well, when using Wikipedia links to latitude-longitude coordinates with ACME Maps, it does not allow me delete old `Marks', add new `Mark"; or view list of `Marks'. Why is this happening? Is it because I often work online or up to 16 hours at a time? My research is important to me and keeps my mind stable (since 1979). My research is listed as the `Northern Shipwrecks Database' under the name `Northern Maritime Research' (www.NorthernMaritimeResearch.com) How can these interruptions be stopped? 24.68.26.58 (talk) 06:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

if you are using wikipedia for research, there should be no captchas or Marks, just you viewing a wikipedia article. i don’t get it at all. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

"private research" sounds like reading but if you refer to editing Wikipedia then you can avoid captchas by creating an account and becoming autoconfirmed. Coordinates in Wikipedia usually link to pages like [1] but the listed services are external including ACME Mapper. I don't have experience with it and we don't control it but maybe you can get help at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Are these Capthas appearing on Wikipedia or on the ACME maps website? It sounds to me like the latter, in which case you will need to ask ACME maps for help. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

conspiracy theory

your use of the term conspiracy theory is annoying 2A02:8084:42C1:2380:A8BA:5430:22CB:960D (talk) 07:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

where? lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Random pages

I value the random page search every morning (10 minutes worth) because it occasionally finds a subject which interests me and so extends my knowledge. However and naturally, many pages which are found have no interest to me. Particularly biographies and 'places of interest'. Is there any way that I could exclude such 'hits'. Thank you in advance of your consideration.

Brian Jaques 2A00:23C6:B60E:7801:B02F:277:A486:3D89 (talk) 11:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

that is not possible. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 12:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

You could try Special:RandomInCategory to find random pages in categories which interest you, but I don't know of any easy way to exclude certain classes of pages. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Interesting idea! The information and tools to do this are all available in Wikidata, but turning it all into a simple one-click interface would be a challenge. Wikidata is a database with structured information about many things, specifically including Wikipedia articles. To use it effectively, you need to learn some basic stuff about relational databases, and some simple stuff about its query language. I'm not sure it has a "random" function, so you might want to just create a big list of suitable articles, then randomize the big list and break it into 365 daily lists, once a year. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

How to submit a draft?

Using a link provided above, I created a draft for Final Legacy. At no time during this process was I given instructions on how to submit it. I think this information should be presented on every screen, but a better solution would be a button to add the text that appears on all drafts. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

people using the wikipedia:article wizard would see a button to submit their draft. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:41, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

I could not use the wizard, as noted in the thread above (find on "final"). I think these instructions/button should always be visible in draft pages. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 17:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Not all drafts need to go through Articles for Creation although those written by IP editors and new accounts do. It is perfectly acceptable for experienced editors to move drafts to mainspace directly, without any need for instructions or buttons. Cullen328 (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

If a new article is posted to draft by an IP editor, and no AFC subst is added, is there a formal process that will get it reviewed and move it to main page? From my experience, such articles will not be visited and will eventually be culled. Is my experience unusual? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:40, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

that's normal. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Sandy Roberton

This article has recently been massively expanded by another editor (creating a whole raft of issues in itself), but my question relates to the inordinate amount of whitespace that now appears, between the text and the References section, which seems to be a failure relating to the "Footnotes" template somewhere along the line. Can someone who knows what they are doing (i.e. not me) try to sort this out? Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ghmyrtle I added a {{clear}} template which fixed the white space. I have no comment on the other issues, which you can take up on the Talk Page of the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Using PrimeHunter or similar tool to find REAL What Links Here

I wanted to find what REALLY links to an article, and when 'What links here' gave me far too many, I realized that the TRANSclude feature of wiki may be getting in the way.

Trying "Hide transclusions" didn't seem to help, but in my looing around I found '[2]' but I don't think I know how to make it operate, or at least the pink-colored "Code that you insert" atop the .JS made me think it's time to admit I need to ask at HELP DESK. Can you point me to something already documented/semi-cookbook style (This help question is long enough; I don't want to have someone write something just for my benefit, at least unless it can be repackaged for future use). Nuts240 (talk) 16:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Nuts240: The pink box at Special:MyPage/common.js is a standard warning. Most editors probably ignore it and add any useful sounding script from random users. If it makes you more comfortable running my code, I'm an administrator here and User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js can only be edited by myself and interface administrators. I don't promise my JavaScript is always correct but it's not malicious. Just create Special:MyPage/common.js with this code:

importScript('User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js'); // Linkback: [[User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js]]

PrimeHunter (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Jimmy Savile Athenaeum Club Membership

I would like to add The above persons membership to the Athenaeum Club to the topic The source is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Athenaeum_Club_members and am unable to do so. ADVICE NEEDED. Davekgautier (talk) 16:55, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

You cannot reference Wikipedia but you could reference the original source for the content namely https://web.archive.org/web/20111030112314/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/8857428/Sir-Jimmy-Savile.html Theroadislong (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Davekgautier: the page Jimmy Savile is semi-protected. You can post your proposed addition (be specific with exact wording) on the article's talk page. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 16:30, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Videos

Why can't t Wikipedia play videos like 30min videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.113.235.212 (talk) 17:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

It can. For example, Cabiria is two hours long. But modern videos are copyrighted of course so we cannot host them. Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

See WP:YOUTUBE. Generally speaking though, Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons are not video hosting sites and most video clips are fairly short.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Regaining Access to Old User Name

Hi - I previously posted under user name tscud. I don't know the password and I think it connected to an expired email address. Is there any way you could help me regain access - or should I just create a new user name?

Thanks 76.93.175.79 (talk) 20:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

If your email is inaccessible/expired, you will need to create a new account and identify it as a successor account to your old account("I am User1234, I was previously User 5678"). 331dot (talk) 20:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks - I will do that. 76.93.175.79 (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

User:Tscud has stored an email adress in the account (this is optional) but we don't have access to it. Passwords never expire but the account hasn't edited since 2009. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)