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April 17

Link 2 articles in two languages about the same figure together

I have created a new article Vũ Lăng. After that, I found there is an article about this figure in Vietnamese at vi:Vũ Lăng (thượng tướng) and these two articles are not linked together.
I aslo see existing wikidata item for this figure at d:Q10833838 but it is not linked to en.wiki article.
How can I link them together? Leemyongpak (talk) 02:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Never mind. I found how to do it myself :) Leemyongpak (talk) 03:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia issue

I erroneously uploaded an image file as public domain. I’Ve added the nec. copyright notice. I’ve deleted the license (I think) but can’t figure out how to replace. If no other choice, I should delete image completely. Can’t figure out how to do this either. Valuenyc (talk) 02:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Valuenyc, the English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are separate projects with separate goals, policies and administrative structures. Most English Wikipedia editors have no special understanding of their procedures. I suggest that you use the help resources available on Wikimedia Commons. Cullen328 (talk) 06:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Valuenyc, commons:File:Felix Albrecht Harta (portrait by Oskar Kokoschka, 1909).jpg? Commons:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Austria tells us: "Copyright in individual work of literature, music and the visual arts ends 70 years after the author's death." Kokoschka died in 1980. -- Hoary (talk) 12:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I have nominated the file for deletion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing:Thank you. This all began as I was about to go on a trip, so I've been slow to acknowledge. I then had difficulty resurrecting this conversation. (Boy, things can move fast on Wikipedia.) Anyway, I do thank you for taking practical action and it seems that the file was taken down very quickly. Please do tell if you think there is anything else I should do to restore my good standing here. -- Very sincerely, Jeanne, Valuenyc (talk) 16:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Asiimwe Ritah Profile Editing

kindly help me re-organize my profile information 102.85.68.255 (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Is it the article Ritah Asiimwe, and are you unhappy with it in some way? See WP:AUTOPROB for more detail.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi IP 102.85.68.255. Assuming this is about Ritah Asiimwe and you're "Ritah Asiimwe", please take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Wikipedia doesn't have profiles per se like perhaps you might find on social media; it has encyclopedic articles written about subjects based on what reliable sources have said about said subjects. So, if you tried to edit the article today using another IP address, then that's OK; however, from here on it's probably better for you to make edit requests at Talk:Ritah Asiimwe instead and propose the changes you'd like made. I've reverted the syntax errors introduced earlier today by another IP account, and I also did some minor copyediting and syntax clean up. You should, however, use the article's talk page to propose the changes to the infobox that you think should be made. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Article heading glitchy on mobile version

The 'track listing' heading on Saturns Pattern isn't displaying properly on the mobile phone version of the article - it's appearing vertically. I thought I'd fixed it by adding extra spacing - when I tested it, by copying the whole article into my sandbox, it looks okay on my mobile - but didn't work in the article when I tried the same fix. Many thanks! IndigoBeach (talk) 08:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Italian singers

Italian topics, obviously, aren't the most important in the encyclopedia, but I would like to point out a big problem: I have noticed that the titles of Italian songs and albums are often written in English: this doesn't make sense (for example on the Gino Santercole page); it's correct to write the translation, but it's not correct to use only the title translated into English. It's very important to be more careful, also because I'm one and I cannot correct the whole encyclopedia. JacktheBrown (talk) 11:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: You might want to raise this at WT:WikiProject Italy (and on individual article talk pages). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME would indicate that if the song is known by an English language name, then that is the correct one to use in an English language encyclopaedia.Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown is frustrated that editors mechanically translate Italian song titles when translating from Italian Wikipedia, for example here. I agree that it is frustrating, but don't have a solution to the problem. TSventon (talk) 14:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@TSventon: there is a solution: the pages of Italian singers should be created by Italians (e.g., an excellent user is LukeWiller), as they know the titles in Italian. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

MOS:QUOTEFOREIGN says When editors themselves translate foreign text into English, care must always be taken to include the original text, in italics. As the editor was translating it Wikipedia, they knew the Italian title, but they appear not to have known that they should have kept the Italian titles. TSventon (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@TSventon: I think that a large-scale control is indispensable, as I said, as far as I can do, I remain one person. JacktheBrown (talk) 16:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Not going to happen on this website, any more than "Christian topics for Christians only". Italians can choose to show up and edit. If they don't, they don't and content will be made by others. And why specifically "Italian singers" instead of "Italian mountaineers"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: "And why specifically "Italian singers" instead of "Italian mountaineers"?". Only for Italian singers because:

there is a solution: the pages of Italian singers should be created by Italians (e.g., an excellent user is LukeWiller), as they know the titles in Italian. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

JacktheBrown (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown, when you write there is a solution: the pages of Italian singers should be created by Italians, I can assure you that your proposal absolutely will not be accepted. One of our core principles is that Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, as lomg as they comply with policies and guidelines. We are not going to carve out an exception for Italian topics. And how would this large scale control that you mention even be implemented? We have policies and guidelines that we are all expected to follow, but no mechanism for large scale control of content matters. As for notable Italian topics, they are no less important than any other notable topics. Rome is just as important as London and Florence is just as important as Dallas. Cullen328 (talk) 17:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: that's not true: American and British topics are preferred, just look at the statistics; I agree that Italy, United States and United Kingdom are equally important in this encyclopaedia, but they are treated differently; suffice it to say that most of my edits concern Italian topics, and I have not yet finished correcting and improving the pages. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

What's not true? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: the fact that Italian topics, as preference, are equal to American and British ones; based on the views of the various pages, this isn't true. Mine isn't a complaint. JacktheBrown (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Cullen said nothing about "equal". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: then I misinterpreted the comment. JacktheBrown (talk) 19:13, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown, there is no connection between "importance" and the number of page views. Many popular culture topics get very heavy page views. For example, Richard Lewis (comedian) died on February 27, and in the next week, his biography was the third most heavily viewed article on this website. That does not mean that Lewis is more "important" than Rome or Michelangelo or Sicily. Cullen328 (talk) 23:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: now I understand what you mean, thank you. JacktheBrown (talk) 00:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Template messed up

I am unable to fix Template:Clarinet. I was trying to add the clarinetist section. deisenbe (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

deisenbe I have fixed the coding. Firstly there was some wikicode that needed to be at the end of the template, so I moved it. Secondly to link to a category, you need to add a colon at the start, otherwise you add the page to the category. TSventon (talk) 14:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Development Studies

What precisely do post development theorists mean when they call for the abandonment of the PWWII development project? 102.22.194.176 (talk) 18:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

IP editor, the answer to your original question, "Where can I ask questions if I have assignment questions", is "Not here". TSventon (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Mysterious ex-wikipedia page

Hi, I'm in the early stages of writing an article about 1980s UK film-maker Cliff Twemlow, and when checking to see what WP already has on him (very little, and no article) I found this page, which appears to be a WP article about him, and states "This article is issued from Wikipedia", the link being to a deleted page with oldid=1081611956. I wonder if anyone with suitable privileges could tell me if this was originally a WP article, but has been deleted, or is in Draftspace, or something? Thanks! Tobyhoward (talk) 19:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

That is indeed a copy of the deleted history of the article Cliff Twemlow * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Tobyhoward: According to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cliff_Twemlow you can request for the article to be undeleted if you are intending to work on improving it. RudolfRed (talk) 19:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @RudolfRed and thank you @Pppery. Tobyhoward (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Caitlin Clark article

The first line of the article about Basketball player Caitlin Clark says that she is “stupid” 2601:589:4F02:DA50:9D04:FA82:C36:70E1 (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

The article had been vandalised but has now been corrected. TSventon (talk) 22:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

am a teacher

how do i assign my students work?204.2.36.253 (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Student_assignments for some information on that. RudolfRed (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

IP now blocked (again). Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)