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August 1

Help with WP.1.0 Assessment

I tried to get the Philippine politics task force to have an assessment box, including adding a template request to Template:Tambayan Philippines, and creating categories, yet there isn't a mention of the task force in the WP.1.0 website, any help will be accepted.

Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 01:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The task has been already completed by another editor. Template talk:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines Anonymous1261 (talk) 11:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see Philippine politics in wp1.openzim.org, maybe you mistaked it? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the last discussion. Here:

Template-protected edit request on 23 July 2024

Can any editors add the Politics task force? Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 10:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC) 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 10:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]

Just to be clear, the changes suggested to be made are in the sandbox. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 10:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]

Completed – included a TF_2_ASSESSMENT_CAT parameter. Let me know if any tweaks are needed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 12:25, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous1261 (talk) 11:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you meant that one. I didn't mean the edit request, I meant the WP1.0 catching the Philippine politics task force to hopefully make an assesment box.🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

usa federal government

where are your preapprovals from the above referenced? 100.19.134.49 (talk) 01:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you add more information about this? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 01:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP user. I have no idea what this means. Are you sure that it is a question about editing Wikipedia? That is the only thing that this page is about. ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1992 Olympic Dream Team

Statistic show Charles Barkley as starting 4 games, I love Sir Charles but he did not. Charles started against Croatia (pool game), Brazil, and Lithuania. Karl Malone started against Angola, Germany, Puerto Rico, and Croatia(Gold medal game). WDavidD (talk) 02:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team

@WDavidD: If you have suggestions to improve an article, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 02:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is apparently about the GS column at 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team#Olympic statistics. Every column has an unexplained abbreviaton but the GS numbers go from 0 to 8 and add up to 40 = 5×8 so it has to be Games Started or some variation. Another section uses the source [1] which says "Chuck started Michael and Magic every game and then rotated the other three. Pippen would start one game, Mullin would start the next. Robinson and Ewing would alternate; Malone and Barkley would alternate." Malone and Barkley are both listed as starting 4 of 8 games so they match that source (if "alternate" means switch every game), but some of the other players don't. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WDavidD:, there were evidently 8 games, but you have only mentioned 7, omitting Spain. Logic suggests that Barkley must also have started against Spain. The source quoted by PrimeHunter supports this. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.235 (talk) 13:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This source for the Spain game has a legend indicating * for starters. No player on either team has an asterisk so I guess both teams started the game without players in an attempt to confuse the opposing players. The unusual strategy failed when there was nobody to confuse. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How does anyone get a Wikipedia page?

How does anyone get a Wikipedia page? Dennis Littrell (talk) 03:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dennis Littrell: First, the person must become notable, as Wikipedia defines the term: see WP:N, and specifically WP:BIO. Then someone that is not associated with the person maust choose to write an article. Not the person: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. -Arch dude (talk) 03:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Das Agile Manifest

Es ist vor 15 Minuten auf Wikipedia verschwunden Blaxown (talk) 03:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Blaxown: If this is about something on the Engish Wikipedia, please post in English and be more clear about what you are asking (something existed 15 minutes ago? if I did Google translate right). If you are having trouble with the German Wikipedia, you can ask for help there de:Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia RudolfRed (talk) 04:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English: The Agile Manifesto 185.104.138.71 (talk) 05:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special:CentralAuth/Blaxown shows this post is your only saved page to any Wikipedia language or Wikimedia wiki, and your account doesn't exist at the German Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was an article called Agile Manifesto in English Wikipedia, but since 2010-08-14 it has been redirected to Agile software development#The Agile Manifesto. ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to move my article from Sandbox to main page

I am creating a page for Archana Kapoor. I have uploaded the whole article and added all the references and citations, but I am unable to move my article from Sandbox to the main page. Please help. Archana Kapoor (talk) 11:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First, User:Archana Kapoor, how are you related to Archana Kapoor? (Are you her? Have you been paid to create an article about her? Etc.) Once this is cleared up, there's quite a list of things that need to be done to User:Archana Kapoor/sandbox before there's any hope of promoting this draft to article status. -- Hoary (talk) 12:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Advice on indef block given at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Unable to move my article from Sandbox to main page. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Actors who committed suicide

Patrick Bergin is still alive! 2A02:1810:2D36:B000:D964:8A50:5EB8:48EE (talk) 11:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was on the Simple English Wikipedia. I've fixed it. There seems to have been some fun and games here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Secure a "celebrity" super model page

Hi, I am trying to help my friend Fabio Mancini's page to be secure. When he asked , the page removed his profile picture and all kinds of warnings. He is retired from being a TOP model and is active in helping the world but his page has been tampered with. Can you help secure the data ? Sandrajean11 (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandrajean11, please take the time to read WP:COI and WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. We do protect articles sometimes, but for reasons per WP:PROTECT. You are welcome to suggest content and WP:RS at Talk:Fabio Mancini. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fabio Mancini has a Wikipedia article, but I doubt that it meets WP:GNG. It also looks as though WP:COI may have been involved here, as the tone is promotional. See also WP:OWN.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandrajean11, I'm afraid you appear to have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia's article about your friend is not in any way his property, or under his control, or for his benefit (except incidentally). ColinFine (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wikisource

Templates such as these—{{Wikisource}} in 'Further reading sections', etc.—default to the right-hand side, but is it possible to place them on the left? ——Serial Number 54129 16:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wikisource-inline formats the information like other entries in a bulleted list. Is that what you want? Deor (talk) 16:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Deor. Not quite; just to get the box to sit on the left of the page rather than the right. It seems slightly odd that it defaults to the opposite side of the page to that which English is automatically read from? ——Serial Number 54129 17:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the intent is to have it the way it is on Apollo 11 § External links, with the box next to other text. But in any case, you can pass |position=left to put it on the left instead. Assuming the other sister project templates also pass on that parameter to {{sister project}}, they should work the same way. Rummskartoffel 17:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, thanks Rummskartoffel makes sense now. Cheers! SerialNumber54129 18:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Claude McKay

The poet Claude McKay was born in 1889, not in 1890. We are propagating inaccurate information. Please see these sources for confirmation: [2]; [3]; [4]; [5]. If you agree I'll change his year of birth accordingly to his birth certificate. 2A02:B023:F02:5152:F9A1:57FC:4DED:B604 (talk) 16:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You will likely be reverted with a recommendation that you see footnote #1:

As Cooper's authoritative biography explains, McKay's family predated his birth a year to make him eligible to be a student teaching assistant at his eldest brother's school, a fact McKay only learned from his sister Rachel in 1920 -- leading some sources to erroneously date his birth to 1889

. In any case, this isn't the right place for this content discussion: The article talk page is intended for that. ——Serial Number 54129 16:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Serial Number 54129 yes, but this 2022 biography [6] explain that he was actually born in 1889 after the discover of his birth certificate. 2A02:B023:F02:5152:F9A1:57FC:4DED:B604 (talk) 16:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DOB says "If multiple independent reliable sources state differing years or dates of birth in conflict, include all birth dates/years for which a reliable source exists, clearly noting discrepancies." TSventon (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not unreasonable, Claude McKay is dead though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although WP:DOB is part of WP:Biographies of living persons, it has a footnote linking to a village pump discussion about Vernon Jarrett, which was not a BLP either. TSventon (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem to be in the common sense direction. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like the thoroughness of Wikipedia:When sources are wrong for things like this. Folly Mox (talk) 10:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Making infoboxes appear in one section

I've noticed a lot of US election articles contain multiple infoboxes and that those infoboxes will spill into other sections (like in 2006 United States House of Representatives elections in Texas), often resulting in infoboxes going on past the references list and making the page less visually appealing. I was wondering if there is a way to lock infoboxes into their respective section, so that the section itself expands for the infobox and the infobox doesn't spill into other sections, as reducing image sizes will only work to a point. Thanks! Incognito melon (talk) 17:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Incognito melon, I think what you are looking for is Template:Clear, which stops new text until the previous image/table is complete. The only problem is that it can lead to lots of blank space, which other people find unappealing - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 17:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is indeed what I was looking for, thanks! Incognito melon (talk) 17:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why do so many of your editors incorrectly say that books are "entitled"?

The subject line says it all. Why do so many of your editors not know that a book is "titled" -- not "entitled"? For as bad as you all are about gatekeeping Wikipedia, I would at least expect ALL OF YOU to know basic vocabulary. 38.101.16.250 (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps they read it in a dictionary? [7][8] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gråbergs Gråa Sång's response says it all. Why do so many of those people keen to disparage others' use of English not first carry out reality checks? Try for example "On the Rightful Use of 'Entitle'" (Merriam-Webster). And of course there's Nabokov's "On a Book Entitled Lolita". -- Hoary (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback for Choosing text color/background

Hi just a feedback. Its good to have a dark mode, but the white text is still too sharp, would be good to have greyer text so it dun stand out so much. Its even better if one can choose the shading grey level or color for text/background, maybe even a few would be nice. 110.235.121.124 (talk) 22:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP editor. You are probably aware of the Project Page WP:Dark mode for this recently-introduced feature. I'm sure the developers would welcome feedback and suggestions on its Talk Page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sub-subcategories and pages in a category

I'm new to working with categories and have read some of the relevant WP pages (e.g., WP:CAT). Am I correct in understanding that if the page for category A includes both B and C as subcategories, but C is itself a subcategory of B, then C should be removed as a subcategory of A? Similarly, if P appears as a page in category A, but P is also a page in subcategory B, then P should be removed as a page of A? I'm asking because I see some of this cropping up on Category:Donald Trump page, and I want to make sure that I understand the rules correctly before removing some of the contents on that page. Thanks! FactOrOpinion (talk) 22:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In general, an article or category-page should only be in the most-specific relevant subcategory(ies), not also the parent-category(ies) of those subcats. However, there are some cats that do not follow that pattern (articles being placed in both the specific subcat and also the parent cat). Which way to handle it is based on the specific cats themselves. These ideas are discussed in the WP:SUBCAT subsections of the WP:CAT guideline, with the key term of "diffusing". DMacks (talk) 03:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did reread that section more carefully, but I'm not sure whether I fully understand how to determine if a subcategory is non-diffusing. None of the subcategories in question have a {{Non-diffusing subcategory}} template on them. Perhaps it would help if I go into the specifics. Right now, in Category:Donald Trump, the subcategories include all of the following (along with other subcategories): Members of the defense counsel for the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump‎, even though it is a subcategory of Donald Trump attorneys‎, which is in turn a subcategory of Donald Trump litigation‎, which is in turn a subcategory of Donald Trump controversies‎. I'm pretty certain that I should remove Members of the defense counsel for the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump as a subcategory of Category:Donald Trump, but am less certain about whether I should also remove Donald Trump attorneys‎ and Donald Trump litigation‎, given that these are all subcategories of Donald Trump controversies‎, which would remain. Similarly, the page E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump is listed, even though it's a page within both Donald Trump litigation‎ and Donald Trump controversies‎; my impression is that I should remove this page from Category:Donald Trump. These are the kinds of things that I'm trying to get a handle on. Thanks again, FactOrOpinion (talk) 11:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An additional question: I noticed that on the Category:Donald Trump page, an editor's sandbox (User:YassifiedAndSlaying/sandbox) shows up as a page in the category. This editor has placed a number of categories at the bottom of his sandbox page, perhaps not realizing that his sandbox now appears as a page in those categories. I saw that another editor edited his sandbox page, adding around some other categories. Is it acceptable to edit someone’s sandbox, and is that particular edit the way to make sure that the person’s sandbox doesn’t appear as a page in those categories? Thanks. FactOrOpinion (talk) 16:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FactOrOpinion *Generally* it is not appropriate to edit someone elses non-talk pages in their area of userspace, *BUT*, removing the pieces that put them into main is a *well* established exceptions. See WP:USERNOCAT and WP:DRAFTNOCAT. The most appropriate way is to use Template:Draft categories around it, but I've also seen simply adding  around the entire thing which is what I sometimes do (and I did for the sandbox in question.

There is even a mostly weekly report generated at Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories and Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories (2) which actually finds categories which have both mainspace and draftspace (or mainspace and userspace) members. So yes, a definitely appropriate use for the mop bucketNaraht (talk) 17:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I see that some mark-up that I included has been replaced by its effect (which I hadn't anticipated, but now makes sense to me). I'm not sure how to show the mark-up itself. Let me try again: ((draft categories| …)) but replacing the parentheses with braces. FactOrOpinion (talk) 16:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FactOrOpinion, you can use {{t|draft categories}} to produce {{draft categories}}. Rummskartoffel 17:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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