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August 11

Infobox video game and DISPLAYTITLE

I've been trying to make the DISPLAYTITLE of Shapez 2 lowercase, and {{DISPLAYTITLE:''shapez 2''}} works, but only if the {{Infobox video game}} is removed. When I readded the infobox, an error message of shows up. I tried following the instructions, but it still doesn't work. Could someone with more experience in DISPLAYTITLEs take a look? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

In the infobox template set |italic title=no

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk that worked, thanks! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit reversion on Land Rover Defender (L663)

Hello.

Recently I began a new section on the Land Rover Defender (L663) page with the options available. However, it was reverted by user Frost since it was advertising material. If you look at the edit it is clearly not advertisement, with me just quoting the names of the options available. How can I solve the issues within my edit, and get it back on the article, or just revert the reversion?

Thanks, A1C6. A1C6 (talk) 08:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

A1C6, Wikipedia is not a sales brochure for the Land Rover Defender or any other commercial product. Promotional editing on Wikipedia is forbidden. Readers can go to the Land Rover website for banal and routine information like a list of available colors, wheels and seat upholstery options. Cullen328 (talk) 08:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I do understand that, however I am not listing the options as a sales brochure - I am documenting them for the future, as far configurators are rarely properly accessible on archives like the Wayback machine, thus an important detail of this vehicle will be lost to time - which juxtaposes the entire goal of Wikipedia. A1C6 (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

We believe you, and that your intent is entirely benign. Nevertheless, it is probably too fine a level of detail for the article, or at least arguably it is. You could open a thread on the article's talk page, and see if you can convince the reverter, or get a consensus to include the material from other uses. My guess is that that'd be futile, but you never know I suppose. (As I'm sure you can understand, we do have a pretty quick trigger for stuff that looks like promotional material, even if it's not, because we get a lot of stuff that is promotional material and it's a constant game of whack-a-mole.) Herostratus (talk) 10:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

The key to this lies in the Wikipedia:Golden Rule which is whether trivia such as the available colors, wheels and seat upholstery options have been reported on with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Do you have those sources? Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

That Golden Rule thing is interesting, however the details I am copying from the Landrover configurator are purely the specs and option names - not material convincing one to buy something. A1C6 (talk) 21:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Another way to look at this, which concurs with what Shantavira said, is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. The chances are that such details have been discussed only by the manufacturer or associates, and so do not belong in the article. ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

US Interests Section Havana Cuba

Dear Wikipedia - my parent's firm was the architect on the US Interests Section in Havana Cuba ending in 1997. They held a contract with the US Dept of State, OBO. This is of great importance to my parents as they are Cuban born and their firm was a minority disadvantaged business and the most meaningful project in their firms' history. I would like to add their firm name to the respective Wikipedia pages and request your assistance. Please let me know how I can assist.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Terri 99.151.49.12 (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

You'd have to demonstrate that your parents' firm is wikinotable to warrant a mention, and should you decide to do this, you should disclose your conflict of interest. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

A subject does not need to meet our notability criteria to be mentioned in an article on a different topic. But the mention does need to be relevant, and supported by a reliable source. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Fix the dignitaries of Closing Ceremony Paris 2024

Can you fix and correct the dignitaries of Closing Ceremony Paris 2024 Olympics? President of the French Republic Emmanuel Macron and the President of the International Olympic Committee Thomas Bach. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 19:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I guess you refer to 2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony#Dignitaries in attendance, but please clarify what you want changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

...and please make your request on Talk:2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)