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Re: Archie Henderson (comedian)

Hello. I created an article about Archie Henderson (comedian) and just went to upload it. I then discovered there were versions in draft that have been rejected a few times.

What is the protocol about uploading a new version which, I believe, has sufficient quality citations? bbc.co.uk, theguardian.com, telegraph.co.uk plus newspapers.

It is a much reduced version of what was proposed before, but I believe it fits requirements.

Do I just copy and paste my new article into the draft space? Any suggestions appreciated.

Thank you 04:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC) BJCHK (talk) 04:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I will suggest you to improve Draft:Archie Henderson (comedian). It was declined couple of times and needs improvement, you can improve that. If you think that some portion from that draft need to be removed (non-cited) do it and if you have enough sources from across the web, then include them too.–– kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 04:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@KEmel49 thanks - the thing is I have already written and prepared an entire article already so I feel a bit meh about having to rejig what's already there. I might try uploading mine and see what happens. BJCHK (talk) 05:12, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Then i would suggest you to submit your piece of work to AFC through your sandbox.–– kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 05:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I want to make a draft page but it is a redirect.

I would like to make a draft page for the Iyanya album Applaudise but it's a redirect. Should I just turn the redirect to a page? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 04:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

First create a draft as Draft:Applaudise. after completing that draft, Submit to AFC. rest will be done then only.–– kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 05:21, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@OsigbemheEJB You are autoconfirmed and reasonably experienced, so there is nothing to prevent you creating a new article at the redirect Applaudise, if you are confident it will survive the new pages patrol, who check all such new submissions. My advice would be to develop the text in your sandbox so that when you first overwrite the redirect the new article already looks OK. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@OsigbemheEJB Well done. That looks fine to me. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

St Anne's College, Oxford

Reference number 18 on this page is incorrect. Please repair. I cannot. Sorry and thank you, 175.38.37.197 (talk) 05:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

This appears resolved. Tollens (talk) 08:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Regensburg subcamp

There's a discussion of the footnotes on Talk:Regensburg subcamp. Not to mention the lack of engagement from the primary author, s/he doesn't seem to have the skill to fix the references so that the resources are moved to the bottom and titled bibliography. This is standard for better quality articles. I am not a subject matter expert in this topic so I'm requesting some help over in that section of the talk page. Logoshimpo (talk) 08:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Change Display Name of Article

Hi team I recently Published an Article I wanna Change it's Display name Please help me about it. My Author's name is "Howard Hughes III" but on Article it's showing "Edward Hughes" please help me in this regard. thanks Saadkhan1233 (talk) 11:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Saadkhan1233 You added links to an article about a completely different person(Edward Hughes) than the person you wrote about. Your draft is located at Draft:Howard Hughes III. As a new user you cannot directly create articles and must submit your draft for a review.

You will need to disclose your connection to Mr. Hughes, please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. It appears that you know him as you took professional looking images of him and he posed for you. 331dot (talk) 11:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Your draft is also completely unsourced. See Referencing for Beginners. 331dot (talk) 11:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

There were references at the version of the article which had hijacked the dabpage Edward Hughes, none of which were independent of the subject, and none of which contributed to notability. Saadkhan1233, it seems you and Hbhughes3 have a serious misimpression about the purpose of Wikipedia. See WP:42 and WP:GNG. Folly Mox (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Link to a subheading within a Wikipedia article

In a Wikipedia article, is there a way to link to a *subheading* within another Wikipedia article, as opposed to linking to the full article? As an example, how do I link to "Early life (1732–1752)" subheading in the article George Washington? Thanks! Tfhentz (talk) 13:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Put a # after the article name and then write the name of the heading: George Washington#Early life (1732–1752). See WP:ANCHOR for detailed instructions. Perception312 (talk) 13:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Perception312, Excellent; that really improves my presentation. Thanks. Tfhentz (talk) 14:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Emojis

These emojis appear as boxes for me: 🪾🫜🫆🪉🫩🫟. How do I make this not happen? Frost 15:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Frost: I don't know about the rest of them, but the first one is "leafless tree" and is in the set of emoji unicodes in the draft inclusion for this year. Wikipedia sends the new unicode. Your browser interprets it. You will not see the actual emoji until your browser gets updated, probably early next year. see this article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

That's interesting. Thanks! Frost 16:50, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Frost: If you copy-paste them to the "Characters" field at https://r12a.github.io/app-conversion/ (not affiliated with Wikimedia) and click "View in Uniview" then you get this which shows images and names. The images are made by the site and not your browser. It doesn't have something which can make your browser show them at other sites. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Useful tool. Thank you. Frost 18:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Looking for a second set of eyes on this userspace draft

While going through AfC pending reviews, I stumbled upon a draft submitted today, here (User:John Balao/sandbox). This page appears to be a copy-and-paste from somewhere, and even Turnitin shows ~75% similarity to a few sites. However, I can't seem to find where this was pasted from to report a copyvio.

The article itself has several formatting oddities, which led me to believe this was a definite copyvio, but does anyone think I'm missing something? Recommended course of action, or a user to step in who knows more about this situation? Regards, OnlyNano^talk 19:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@OnlyNano: Another edit has declined it as giant wall of unformatted text. I did notice the submission started with "EDIT BELOWCASE STUDY", so maybe it is from a medical textbook. Did you check the sites Turnitin suggested? RudolfRed (talk) 19:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they seemed to have some content copied, but not actual sentances. OnlyNano^talk 20:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I mean, it's extremely obviously copypasted from somewhere. A positive identification of the source shouldn't be necessary to delete as copyvio. Folly Mox (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Great point, thanks! OnlyNano^talk 20:03, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Resolved

Page deleted. DMacks (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Can socks override SNOW?

A merge request on the page Severe weather sequence of July 13–16, 2024 has had unanimous consensus for about 2 weeks now. However, the two times it has been closed were by socks of WP:LTA/Andrew5, who improperly closed it under two different accounts over the past 2 days. I was considering closing it myself, but I am an involved editor and the situation with the socks might overrule that. Also, at WP:CR, the second sock requested a closer, but it was denied due to sock activity. I know WP:SNOW dictates that involved editors can close discussions with unanimous consensus, but if an involved closer didn't, I'm unsure if involved editors have the authority to do it. Is it fair to finish closing the merge myself, given unanimous consensus? Note none of the socks had voted on the merge !vote. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 23:47, 24 August 2024 (UTC)