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August 5

Obligations to comply with PROD contested by p-blocked editor

Talk:Vásquez_House If a P-blocked editor who has been barred from editing in mainspace asks to have the PROD tag removed, am I required by guideline to comply with their request? The concern is at Talk:Vásquez_House Graywalls (talk) 07:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:DEPROD mentions a tag may be restored if removed by a banned user or blocked user evading a block. I take that to imply that enforcing sanctions overrides the principle that PRODs must only be used when no opposition is expected, and thus you don't have to remove your PROD if you don't want to. But others may disagree. There does not appear to be any explicit guidance either way. – Teratix ₵ 10:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I placed the PROD. The requestor in question is blocked from directly editing main space and requested by request edit to DEPROD it. Given he's given step-by-step on how to do it, I feel like he's looking for inexperienced editor who isn't aware of the totality of situation to come along and just do it. Graywalls (talk) 16:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thankful your information 2405:201:683A:D80D:D4DD:3D6C:BD1E:58A2 (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Please remove

Please remove or correct my birth year. Eva Schernhammer (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Remove from where? Wikipedia has no Eva Schernhammer biography. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

de:Eva Schernhammer. Eva Schernhammer (talk) 11:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

That is the German Wikipedia. You will need to contact them. This is the English Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

They have a help page at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

undo edit

Hello,

I made an edit to a page without setting up an account first. Then I realized the risk. Is there a way to undo my action?

thanks!

Rquillian (talk) 13:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rquillian, if you'd like your IP address hidden from the edit history, you can contact WP:OVERSIGHT via one of the methods mentioned on that page. That's as much as can be done. 57.140.16.8 (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

All my edits are being reverting by the same two users

As above really. It’s becoming really annoying as you can imagine. They seem to be saying they think I am another user and that’s why they are reverting my edits apparently. How do I ask for moderator intervention to put a stop to them please? Thanks. 2.96.227.72 (talk) 15:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:BE by persistent sockpuppet. Always claims to be innocent of why he/she is getting reverted - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Politialguru 10mmsocket (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I do not understand why the above user and his friend are that targeting me, given I am not the user they are linking to. I will no longer engage with them. Please could this persisting reverting of my edits be looked at by moderators? I don’t want the users targeting me banned, but they do need to be stopped from behaving like this. Thanks again. 2.96.227.72 (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

All set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Table moved to bottom of the page

Hi, I was updating the past seasons table under the past seasons tab on the Risborough Rangers FC page. Even though the editing says that the table is under the past seasons tab, when published it isn't so gets moved to the bottom of the page. I am unable to work out what I've done to make this happen. The Relentless Ranger (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Somebody fixed it by closing the table.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Super, thanks The Relentless Ranger (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Julius Perlis

Reference help requested. A bot sent me here.

Thanks, Nayyn (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

The message says that you haven't given a title for the website. Going to http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com/articles/Chess%20players%20who%20died%20young.htm, I can see that there is no obvious title: I suppose the title is "Chess players who died young". But I see absolutely no reason to regard that as a reliable source, and so it should not be cited at all, for any article. ColinFine (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

The title of the page is "Chess players who died young", but the name of the site is Bill Wall's Chess Page (one can often determine the name of a site by going to what's before the first backslash after http:// in the page's URL—in this case, http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com). I agree, though, that it doesn't appear to be a reliable source per WP:RSSELF. Deor (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

What if there are no backslashes? —Tamfang (talk) 00:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Is there a way to see the "Compare versions" view in the editor before submitting?

With long articles with detail-oriented content (tables of data that are easier to download, edit locally, then re-upload), I find I'm submitting, checking revision changes, then going back to correct punctuation and spelling changes. Is there a way to see the version comparison view on my pending submission? Anonymouse914 (talk) 19:04, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Anonymouse914, if you're using the source editor, you should see a "Show changes" button. If you're using the visual editor, after hitting "Publish changes..." a new dialogue will pop up with a "Review your changes" button. – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 20:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Exactly what I was looking for; thank you! Anonymouse914 (talk) 21:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Problem with search function

When I entered the term "rutamarin" in the "Search Wikipedia" box, the search function returned at least 500 hits, first stating that no page for this term exists. The first hit is legitimate, but all the remaining hits are to the same text, and that text doesn't appear in any of the referenced pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=rutamarin&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1). My request is that this search be modified so that only the first hit occurs, and with none of the remaining hits being returned. As a pure guess, I suspect that this result is produced by a bug in the search function which may well cause inappropriate results to be returned from searches of other terms, possibly ones like "rutamarin" that lack their own article pages. Mitality (talk) 19:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mitality: The term really is on all those pages. It is inside the "TRP channel modulators" box at the bottom of the page. This box is collapsed by default. The search function cannot know how useful/not useful this is to any particular user. -Arch dude (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your perfect and super-fast reply! Remarkably, rutamarin is given as BOTH a TRP M activator AND blocker! Pleiotropy? Experimental error? Seems as though rutamarin is just begging to have an article created for it. Mitality (talk) 20:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mitality: You can omit the template-generated results with the search insource:rutamarin which finds four articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)