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July 18

Wikipedia account

Hello, I have made some activities on Wikipedia without registering with my personal account, consequently those activities are registered under my IP. Is it possible to connect that specific IP number to my account? Many thanks in advance for the answer to this question. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@FrancescoC.italy: no that is not possible RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks anyway for your time and indication, as you con understand, I'm not an expert. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 11:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

You can write a note on your user page "Before registering this account, I contributed using the IP address <whatever>."   Maproom (talk) 07:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

This is a quite smart solution, thanks a lot for it. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 11:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia account.

Hello, is it possible to edit the user name of my account and change it from FrancescoC.italy, to FrancescoC.Italy (capitol letter for Italy). Many thanks in advance to anyone who will answer me. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 01:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@FrancescoC.italy: Accounts can be renamed, but your account has very few edits so it is easier just to abandon your current account and create an account with the name you want. RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Dear RudolfRed, thank you for your kind reply. But, if it is possible to change the user name, can you please tell me how to do it, instead of telling me to simply scrap it.

Moreover, please consider that I have made some changes also to the Italian Wikipedia.

Again, thanks in advance for your reply. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 11:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

And after you do that, you can link the old one with the new one with a redirect if you wish to. Ask about that again, after you create the new one, if you wish. Mathglot (talk) 06:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your good suggestion, I will consider it as a possible B option, because I have already asked to RudolfRed to tell me how to change the user name, since he have written that it is possible. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 11:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Please see Special:GlobalRenameRequest. ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

On Thomas Matthew Crooks

I think modern day Villains like Thomas Matthew Crooks who tried to assassinate someone should not have a wikipedia page. The reason is that doing this might motivate other villains to do same to be popular (or infamous). The link below proves that Thomas Matthew Crooks believed such despicable action would make him famous. We as a sane society should not grant him that inhuman desire.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trumps-attempted-assassin-posted-message-before-shooting-july-13-my-premiere-watch-unfolds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Matthew_Crooks 2604:3D09:C37C:BBD0:3A49:94B5:BCD7:9079 (talk) 07:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

All content on Wikipedia is compiled from other published information, so there is exactly zero information here which could not be found elsewhere. It would additionally be fundamentally incompatible with the purpose of an encyclopedia to exclude entries about people judged to have done reprehensible things: suppose the articles on John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, any of the many entries linked from List of serial killers, Adolf Hitler, etc. were deleted, this would plainly be absurd. See additionally WP:NOTCENSORED. Tollens (talk) 08:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP, while I sympathise with your notion somewhat, as Tollens eluded to Wikipedia is based on reliable sources. If those sources didn't exist Wikipedia would not be able to report on them. So really you should lobby the FBI, Fox News etc to not publish the information in the first place. I do note we have an extensive article on John Hinckley Jr., Reagan's equivalent. Commander Keane (talk) 09:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I think that Thomas Matthew Crooks is borderline for needing a Wikipedia article at the moment, but it has survived deletion discussions.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Posting on Wikipedia

I have a registered new idea called THE SERVICE MALL a new MALL to encompass the graduates of the theoretical colleges and I don't know how to post it on Wikipedia 156.213.200.254 (talk) 08:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

You don't. Such advertisements have no place here. Orange Mike | Talk 13:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

The Service Mall

<shameless self-advertisement deleted> 156.213.200.254 (talk) 08:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

For any concept to be included in Wikipedia, it must have already been written about in multiple reliable sources, without any prompting to do so by people connected with the idea. Given that you say this is a new idea, I assume nobody else has written about it, so it would unfortunately not be suitable for a Wikipedia article. If others choose to write about your idea, without you asking them to, it could be written about here, but even then it should be written about here by somebody else. Please see Wikipedia:Notability for a more detailed explanation. Tollens (talk) 08:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Removing “reads like a resume “

How do I remove “reads like a resume”? 74.84.255.32 (talk) 12:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

You can remove Template:Resume-like from the HTML at the top of the article. However, the template was probably put there for a good reason, and should not be removed without gaining a consensus first. What is the name of the article involved?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

major edit of article not being kept

Hello, I edited an entry which is in the Polish language version of wikipedia; and it was a relatively major edit. however despite it showing up initially, it has now reverted to the old version.

have I missed any steps in the editing process. Please help Anaskassem (talk) 13:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Anaskassem this is English Wikipedia, we have no involvement in Polish Wikipedia, you will have to ask there Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

This edit appears to be the relevant one if anyone is interested. On first glance, writing an English edit summary in pl.wp probably isn't a good look. And as Jimfbleak said, you will have to deal with it there. Commander Keane (talk) 13:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@Anaskassem More to the point, you said in the edit summary that you have a person relationship to the subject. This is something that English Wikipedia covers in our conflict of interest guidance. I assume that the Polish Wikipedia works in a similar way to how we would work here: make any proposal for changes to the article via its Talk Page for non-involved editors to assess the relevance and the reliability of the sources you provide. Personal information from Skrybant won't be acceptable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Why am i blocked from editing when i've contributed nothing but credible content?

I recently edited the page of Tharman Shanmugaratnam. Spent many hours trying to substantiate claims with actual news sources and government webpages (for election results) but I got blocked by several users, and my work was instantly undone. The editors monitoring the page had no interest in evaluating my edits in entirety and even accused me of (a) being an employee (b) being the journalist who wrote the articles! It's incredibly unwelcoming, and insanely illogical. And in the reverted version, the author wrote that he's a hindu, with a citation from World Bank. Where is mention, where are the real facts? And why was i blocked and banned when I did nothing wrong? Curiouscat17 (talk) 14:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@Curiouscat17 You are not blocked: if you were, your account would not be able to edit here. User:OOOTenx has asked on your Talk Page whether you have a conflict of interest regarding the Shanmugaratnam article. The correct place to discuss article content is on Talk:Tharman Shanmugaratnam, where I note you have already begun to discuss disputed items as part of our standard process. Note that we have very strict policies for articles about living people. Any content must be backed up by inline citations to reliable sources. It is not sufficient to assert that such sources exist if you have not cited them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I did cite his official biography. Just wondering if anyone had looked through them and actually compared it to the original? Also, when i logged in today, i was notified that my IP address has been blocked from Wikipedia. It's a miracle I can still be typing now. Curiouscat17 (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Re the blocking of the IP you were using, that's likely to be just bad luck (unless you were using a VPN). More details at WP:IPBE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I was notified that @ohnoitsjamie was the one that blocked, so is it bad luck or just bad people? Thank you for your help though. Appreciate it :) Curiouscat17 (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

The Theory of Everything

The real Theory of Everything, the unified field theory of all forces that Einstein spent the last 25 years of his life looking for has been discovered and was published in a book in 2019. The book is The Theory of Everything: a nonperturbative, successfully tested, Higgsless theory with no strings attached by Donald W. Caldwell. It's content is justified by deriving the mass of the electron to 9 significant figures of accuracy, the maximum number experimentally available. Many other derivations and explanations of physics phenomena are explained including the relativistic mass of the electron, and hypotheses of gravity and dark energy. This new breakthrough knowledge is not mentioned in Wikipedia. Question: How can it be acknowledged in Wikipedia. 2601:147:4780:8CF6:C9E7:6F4E:10ED:671A (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Some coverage in reliable secondary sources would help. I've found it here on Amazon, but Wikipedia is not doing book of the month club.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

If the book becomes notable (see WP:NBOOK) it can have an article. With a title like that, it must be evaluated as fringe science and cannot be treated as a reliable source (WP:RS), at least until it is reviewed in one or more major science journals: see WP:FRINGE. Approximately 6000 new book titles get published every single day, so existence of a book dies not make it notable. -Arch dude (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

The book also looks selfpublished. The Amazon page says "Publisher: ‎Datum Books", but a Google search on "Datum Books" only finds this book. The publisher name appears to have been invented for the book. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

With a blurb that reads This monograph contains fundamental physics breakthroughs that will change the course of science, and will likely be the most important physics book of the 21st century, I'm sure that a Wikipedia article will soon be forthcoming (joke). Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

And having been published over 5 years ago, the likelihood of it receiving serious reviews now is .... negligible. - Arjayay (talk) 15:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

A current redirect is incorrect. How do I change this to redirect to the correct page

Colt-Pielstick currently redirects to the SEMT Pielstick page.

The SEMT Pielstick page is correct in the sense that it was purchased by MAN. However, Colt-Pielstick was purchased and is currently owned by Fairbanks Morse Defense. I have documentation proving that this is factual but I do not know how to change the redirect to go to the Fairbanks Morse Defense page.

Can someone help me make this change so the Colt-Pielstick redirects to the correct wiki page? Will.Monroe FMDefense (talk) 17:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Haven't I answered a question about this here before?

Anyway, since "Colt-Pielstick" does not appear anywhere in the article Fairbanks Morse Defense, the principle of least surprise says that it should absolutely not redirect to that article as it currently stands. (That text doesn't appear in SEMT Pielstick either, but at least that shares part of the name).

I suggest you open a discussion on Talk:Fairbanks Morse Defense to decide how to handle this - probably, some text should go into that article - with citation - and then the redirect should be edited.

For how to get to the redirect in order to edit it, see Help:Redirect. ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@Will.Monroe FMDefense: the fact that you "have documentation proving" something is not relevant, because that's not how Wikipedia works. You must cite a published reliable source. For this purpose, it can even be an obscure source like small blurb in a trade journal somewhere. In a case like this (an uncontroversial fact about a company) you could even get away with citing the corporation's web site. -Arch dude (talk) 17:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Name translation

There is a comic book from Argentina named "El Eternauta". That name is a made-up word in Spanish, it does not exist other than as the name of that comic. So the name of the article about the comic was initially also in Spanish: "Eternaut" may seem an obvious translation, but being a completely made-up word (in both languages) that would have been OR. Some years ago Fantagraphics finally published an English edition, called "The Eternaut", so the article was moved: now we were not making up translations, but following a translation already done.

But there is a sequel to that comic, that is still unpublished: "El Eternauta, segunda parte". Should the article be named "The Eternaut, second part", or stick to the name in Spanish until an offcial translation is made? Cambalachero (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cambalachero If the second part is not yet published, won't it be WP:TOOSOON to have the sourcing necessary for a new article? Meanwhile, if there is something reliable published about the next part, why not just include it in a subsection of The Eternaut? Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

It's a 1975 comic. It's not published in English, it has been published in Spanish a long time ago and there are several sources that talk about it. The original Eternaut is from 1957, and the English edition I mentioned is from 2020. Notability is not an issue. Cambalachero (talk) 18:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I would wait until someone comes along and decides on an English translation for the sequel. If it's necessary to explain it then a translation can be provided right after the title. An example of a title that is in the original language for similar work: Ot el bruixot. Reconrabbit 19:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Pinoy Big Brother

In Pinoy Big Brother, I'm not seeing the [edit] button on the various sections in the article. There is the [edit] button at the top, and I've checked the code, and it is correct ==Overview==. I've purged the page, refreshed the page in my browser, I've checked a couple dozen other articles, and don't see that issue with them. Is it just me not seeing these [edit] buttons on the section headings? Or what? Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 19:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

That was because @Sszz123345 inserted _NOEDITSECTION_ at the end (as well as _FORCETOC_) a few hours ago - I assume this was accidental, but I don't know how. Anyway, I've removed them.

I'm wondering why an article about a TV show has coordinates. ColinFine (talk) 20:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Because all episodes of Pinoy Big Brother have apparently been in one house expressly built (and rebuilt) for the show. I assume the coordinates are to that Big Brother House.Naraht (talk) 21:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, had no idea that NOEDITSECTION was even a thing. After looking over the rest of their edit, it seems like maybe a hoax, they linked Kuya, (a village in Russia, population 3) as having won Most Influential Voice at the 64th Annual Grammy Awards. Account was just created today with a total of three edits. Weird. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Google Street View helps. :) https://www.google.com/maps/@14.6392416,121.0347656,3a,75y,178.68h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_wzpPQf8EZDgbEl_GB_f3A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&coh=205409&entry=ttu

New page

Hi... I want to create a page for myself ( actor/ writer) I want a Sam Dobbins page... My user name is Sdobbins21 I don't want that as my name, just user name... I tried to do my page, but it took me to a page to create an article Sdobbins21 (talk) 19:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Sdobbins21 Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves. Please read the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources say about a person, not what they say about themselves. 331dot (talk) 20:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Guideline about coverage of nonexistent products?

Does the Wikipedia have a guideline somewhere covering how to handle a product announced several years ago but has never been released? Or how to handle nonexistent things in general? Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 20:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Like every other subject, it is a matter of the sources. If there are reliable independent sources discussing the product, then it can appear in Wikipedia; if there are not, it can't.

Ideally there will be sources discussing the fact that it hasn't appeared, which can be referred to in the article; otherwise the article will have to say something like "was scheduled for release in" but nothing more. Without a source, the article should not say that it was or wasn't released. ColinFine (talk) 21:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. So there would be no issue if an announced product initially covered by RS but never came to be after many years and nothing acknowledging that being reduced from a section to a sentence or two? Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

That sounds about right to me. But, as always on the help desk, asking vague questions without specific examples gets vague answers. ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I think it's best to keep it vague because I want to understand guidelines as best as possible, and I as an editor will decide how to apply that understanding to a specific article. Thanks again. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

StefenTower, fifteen years of editing Wiiipedia and assisting new editors has convinced me that discussing specific issues with specific encyclopedia articles is vastly more useful than discussing vague generalities phrased as hypotheticals. This is not a debating society. It is a place to assist with the improvement of actual, genuine encyclopedia articles. Cullen328 (talk) 09:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

My twenty years of editing Wikipedia and (hopefully) making a real difference here on many levels disagrees with your position. I am asking about guidelines here and that's why the specific article in question does not matter. I like all Wikipedians should strive to understand the MoS and policies. I am not debating anything - just wanting to understand whether we have guidelines that cover particular general concerns, and I as an experienced editor can then apply that understanding to "actual, genuine encyclopedic articles". On the other hand, if anyone wants to ask about a specific article, that is certainly all right. The only thing reminiscent of a "debating society" is your reply to me, calling me out like this is something terribly important for me to come back to discuss, as if I've done something amiss. Anyone should feel comfortable asking a question here, whether it be general or specific. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 15:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@StefenTower: I have 18 years and 16,000 posts at this help desk and I strongly agree with Cullen328. Posters who don't reveal which page or code they actually want help with is the single most annoying thing for me and probably many other helpers. There are good reasons the edit notice for this page says "Please give the exact title or URL of any page you want help with" and "If possible, please be specific in your question rather than general and link to any page or article your question involves, or at least tell us the title of the page." It gives a much better chance of getting relevant help and it's much easier for the helpers. I read your original post, investigated it a little and then chose to not answer because it was too vague. It could for example be about a film which is in production with a scheduled release date, and "nonexistent things in general" could be everything from mythical beings to Star Wars space ships. And did you want to know whether a new article is justified (maybe one was already deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion), whether a brief or longer mention of the product is justified in a specific article (maybe already discussed on the talk page), or something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

The last position I stated is where I stand on how to ask questions - it's ultimately up to the one who asks the question. I'm fine with the page giving advice on how best to do it. But these are suggestions, not absolute requirements. Also, please stop calling me back to this "debate". This is not the place. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 17:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Adding "Caliph" to infobox

In the page Malik al-Ashtar , i want to replace the "monarch" in infobox with "caliph" as Ali was a caliph. I tried to do it in [1] but "caliph" appeared somewhere it should not have AlexBobCharles (talk) 21:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

You seem to have tried to use a parameter called 1blankname, but as far as I can see, Template:infobox officeholder has no such parameter. It looks to me as if office=[[Caliph]] will do the job. ColinFine (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

In Masoud Pezeshkian for example , "1blankname" is used to add "Supreme leader" which is not normally in the infobox template

Also "office=caliph" would not work as his office is not caliph! I do not know how this could work AlexBobCharles (talk) 22:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@AlexBobCharles: Is [2] what you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes Thank you AlexBobCharles (talk) 06:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

How can you sincerely ask for donations?

When you already take money from a video game company like Ubisoft for falsifying Japanese historical information on Yasuke being a samurai?

Yasuke

2601:246:5E81:2F40:4D44:42F8:C432:7480 (talk) 22:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

what? when did wikipedia do that? Gaismagorm (talk) 22:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Encyclopedic content does not dictate donations, which goes to the Wikimedia Foundation. Kindly refer to Talk:Yasuke if you have concerns, and create an account so that you can be autoconfirmed if you wish to join any discussions on that page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

There is some doubt about whether Yasuke had samurai status; and about whether that status was even well-defined at the time. But I don't see what Ubisoft has to do with it. Maproom (talk) 08:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Ubisoft is planning to release Assassin's Creed Shadows with a samurai character based on Yasuke. The poster apparently has a strange theory that Ubisoft has paid Wikipedia to call Yasuke a samurai to help give authenticity to their game. Wikipedia is edited by volunteers and not by staff of the Wikimedia Foundation which runs WIkipedia. 609 editors have edited Yasuke. Nobody can control the article. If Ubisoft wanted to try to influence the content then they could just edit themselves but they should follow Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if their goal is to help their game. The article is currently semi-protected so you have to be autoconfirmed to edit but that's quite easy. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Uploading a diagram

I have been editing the "Accuracy and Precision" article for many years. I decided to add a diagram, but it gives a pink pop up box saying it is unable to determime whether it is suitable. I have tried . pdf, .jpg and .png with the same results. John M. Acken (talk) 23:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@John M. Acken: The concern is probably about the license and not the file format. If you made the diagram on your own and will release it with a free license then try uploading it at commons:Special:UploadWizard. If you didn't make the diagram then where did you get it from? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

That worked, thank you. 2601:1C2:4900:D110:790A:1AA0:C2F3:8FAA (talk) 00:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)