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June 4

Using Word

Hi Lew. I seem to have lost you?? Can I simply copy an article I have written using MS Word and paste it straight onto Wiki? Best wishes, Bruce Seachange2000 (talk) 04:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Seachange. You seem to be following up a message you posted at User talk:Encoded, so that user will probably answer there. My answer is that you can do that, but you will lose the formatting, and any referencing (and referencing is absolutely the most important part of a Wikipedia article) so it is not a very effective method of creating a Wikipedia article. Images will not go across either - they need to be uploaded and then used in an article in two separate steps, and Wikimedia is very careful about copyright: see Help:upload.

In my experience, editors who attempt the challenging task of creating a new article before they have spent weeks or months learning how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles, usually have a frustrating and miserable experience. Would you enter a major tournament when you've never picked up a tennis racket before?

When you have learnt about core concepts like verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable sources, and most importantly notability, then is the time to read your first article and give it a go.

If you are determined to go ahead with it now, absolutely your first task is to find the reliable, independent sources with substantial material about your club. Nothing written, published or commissioned by the club will count, and nor will anything based on interviews or press releases, or just having passing mention. You need to find places where people wholly unconnected with the club have chosen, off their own bat, to write about the club in professionally published places like significant newspapers, or books from reputable publishers. If you cannot find any such places, then your club is almost certainly not notable, and all further effort you spend on trying to create a Wikipedia article about it will be time wasted. ColinFine (talk) 09:25, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Permanent dead link; piadina romagnola

Reference 2 is a "permanent dead link", should I delete it? JacktheBrown (talk) 06:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I think this is the same source [1]? Timur9008 (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Timur9008: I don't know, "Impossibile raggiungere il sito". JacktheBrown (talk) 19:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

The link works fine for me (also in Italy). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: the link works, but within the page it doesn't; in fact, it's marked as "permanent dead link" (references). JacktheBrown (talk) 20:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Try now. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: PERFECT, thank you! JacktheBrown (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

how to upload content on wikipedia

how to upload content on wikipedia 182.191.79.147 (talk) 09:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

This isn't a mere place to upload content, this is a project to write an encyclopedia. Writing a new article is the most difficult thing to do here, and it is highly recommended that new users first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles in areas that interest them. Unregistered and new users cannot directly create articles, you would need to use the Article Wizard; please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 09:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

If you meant "uploading images", please see c:COM:First steps/Contributing (Wikimedia Commons) and WP:Uploading images/WP:NFCC (WP). Open-content media is welcome on Commons, while non-free material stays on any Wikipedia allowing it (including this edition). Since you are editing from an IP, you must create an account before submitting media to either venue. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:32, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Question by Lenutaa mirceaa

what îs the www.en.m.wikipediia.org?/4-6-2024/"addtopic" Lenutaa mirceaa (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lenutaa mirceaa Would you mind giving us some context, please. An example might be to tell us what you were attempting when you found www.en.m.wikipediia.org?/4-6-2024/"addtopic". 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Even giving us a valid URL might help. Maproom (talk) 17:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Works about children

I recently came across Category:Works about children, and the articles listed in it directly (as opposed to in subcategories) are an extremely eclectic collection. We have IQ tests for children (Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children), an episode of Star Trek (Miri (Star Trek: The Original Series)), a photograph (Faith and Confidence), etc.

Is this a properly-functioning category? If not, what should be done about it? Walsh90210 (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Seems "fiction" should be a "top" subcategory. Fwiw, there is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks; when I went to the Category_talk page a message said "Talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users. Please consider visiting the Help desk for a more prompt response or reviewing the Categorization FAQ for quick tips." I can post at the WikiProject next time. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Saving user preferences

Hi, I have tried multiple times, but it seems I am unable to disable the setting that allows people to email me because, even after clicking save, my user preferences are not saved. I would really appreciate it if you could help. Urboyspong (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

It seems you have asked this question at the Teahouse under a different username. Please stick to only one of these two venues to avoid duplication of volunteer effort. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Article page view is different if logged on. Why?

Hi, I have noticed that any article appears differently, when I am logged onto Wikipedia. If I am not logged on there is a wide margin on the right hand side of the page. When I log on this margin disappears. So, I am editing (and formatting the page, photos, etc.) with no right hand side margin but most users (who are generally not logged on) will see it with the margin. I cannot predict while editing (no margin) what the page will look like with a margin. That makes fitting text around photographs, etc. a bit hit and miss. Editing is thus not WYSIWYG. Is there a reason for this? Is there a way around it without trial-and-error? (In case it is relevant, I am using Chrome). Thanks TrimmerinWiki (talk) 23:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@TrimmerinWiki: Wikipedia and most other web sites do not use information about the aspect ratio and font size of the user's window or sub-window: this is left to the browser. You can never build a "WISYWIG" web page, because each user will see it differently. What you can (try to) do is resize your window to see how the page displays with various aspect ratios. -Arch dude (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@TrimmerinWiki: In addition to the answer from Arch dude, the different view is likely due to the skin. Logged out users get Vector 2022 skin with lots of whitespace and your account may have a different one chosen in the preferences. There are several skins to choose from, so different users will get different views depending on their preference. RudolfRed (talk) 03:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Thank you for your answer, as it did point me in the right direction. I checked the preferences, and the Skin setting was already set to the Vector 2022 skin, but I noticed something else. Under the same Appearance tab, in Preferences, there is a check-box setting named 'Enable limited width mode'. That box was unchecked originally. Checking the box eliminated the difference in appearance between not logged-on and logged-on. The right hand margin now appears in both cases. The problem is now solved, and I have learned something. Much appreciated.TrimmerinWiki (talk) 07:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@TrimmerinWiki: For users that aren't logged in there should still be a floating button in the lower-right corner that causes page text to fill the margins. Of course, it only appears at a certain zoom level (usually users have to zoom out to 100% or lower). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 10:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for that additional informationTrimmerinWiki (talk) 22:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)