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Wrong photo

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The photo of my dad Charles Herbert smith on Wikipedia is not of my dad it is a Māori guy.How can I have that photo removed 115.189.99.123 (talk) 04:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

This has already been asked and somewhat answered at c:Commons:Help_desk#Wrong_photo. Commander Keane (talk) 05:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Seeking Deleted Article and Talkpage

Hello, I am looking for a place where I can find deleted articles from Wikipedia as well as the discussion that surrounds why they were deleted. Specifically, I'm looking for the Wikipedia article associated with Leon Feingold. I heard that it was deleted from Wikipedia by Leon himself and he mentioned that he had written to the help desk before asking about why it was deleted and how to restore it. He said that at the time he had received a response that indicated that he was unable to undo the deletion himself and that somebody else needed to do it, possibly because trying to restore one's own article could be seen as a conflict of interest (COI).

The now deprecated URL of the article is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Feingold, and it can be accessed via the Wayback Machine.

I was wondering if I could see the talk or the discussion about the article and why it was deleted. It definitely is on the WayBack Machine and can be accessed quite easily. Wondering if it's possible to restore and if not why it's not possible to restore.

Cheers and thank you, V Victortanws (talk) 05:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Victortanws if you visit the url https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Feingold or a red link like Leon Feingold it should take you to the "This page does not exist" landing page which has the deletion log entry with deletion reason from the admin.

Alternatively you can visit Special:Log and fill in the article title in the "Target" field to see the deletion reason.

In this case @Liz deleted the article without a formal discussion as a PROD. You can request undeletion at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. Commander Keane (talk) 05:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Be careful of autotranslate in Google Chrome

This is more of a public service advisory than a question but it may pop up as an issue in questions you answer.

Be careful when using Google Chrome mobile (not sure if it applies to desktop) as the autotranslate feature can deceive you. For selected languages (I don't know how I accidentally selected them, but it included German, French and some others) the browser automatically translates without a prompt.

This can be an issue when visiting interwiki links on Wikipedia. For example I had a situation where I needed to analyse the accent used on the letter in a person's name but when a clicked on the "in other languages" button and visited the French Wikipedia article Chrome stripped all the accents in the title when it automatically translated. Very confusing for me.

To disable automatic translation in Chrome mobile open a new tab and then go to Settings > Languages > Advanced > Automatically translate these languages > Select each language and remove it.

This works independently of the "Translate this page" popup, which I still use if desired. Commander Keane (talk) 05:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I would like to say that Auto Translate is also in the Desktop version of Google Chrome. You can access the setting on desktop by clicking Settings then Languages. User Page Talk Contributions Sheriff U3 22:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Article draft

Hello! I am Kartik. I recently created an article of Srikant Dwivedi but it shows that it is Draft. Even after I published the article, I am not able to find the article anywhere on Wikipedia . Please help me with this. I spent almost 4-5 hours creating that article for my favourite person. Please help me 🙏 KartikxShivyaSri (talk) 08:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft. "Publish changes" should be understood to mean "save", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". New accounts cannot directly create articles.

You seem to have a connection to this person beyond them being your favorite, you took a picture of them and they posed for you. Please clarify. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Note that your draft, if you were to submit it, is likely to be declined, as IMDB is not an acceptable source(it is user-editable with little editorial oversight). The other sources seem to not be signficant coverage. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Contributions feedback

I'm looking at my past contributions and want to know what the +100, -100 things mean. The + numbers are green and the - numbers are red. I'd attach a screenshot but don't know how / if I can on Web Mobile. ChronicDumbass (talk) 14:04, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Such a number indicates the number of bytes that were added (+) or removed (-) by the edit. Deor (talk) 14:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@ChronicDumbass When you view Special:Watchlist, you'll find a box on the right which explains all the abbreviations used in the summaries. Special:Contributions doesn't have that explanatory box as there are fewer possibilities in that view. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

How do I edit sources for an infobox?

The elevation of Mt Antero listed at Mount Antero was previously incorrect. I'd like to update it per this source: https://geodesy.noaa.gov/web/news/moving-mountains.shtml. How do I update the source citation to not be NGS88? (The source is in the infobox.) KilimAnnejaro (talk) 15:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

KilimAnnejaro, since the reference for the previous height was a named reference, defined at the instance where you removed it for the newer source, the reference information had to be copied into one of any of the other references named "NGS" so the software would know how to display it. I did this here, adding your source's source in the same edit.

I misunderstood your sequence of edits, which I apolo­gised for in a second diff formatting an unrelated citation.

In practice, people overwrite named reference definitions frequently enough that User:AnomieBOT performs the OrphanReferenceFixer task to rescue them from previous revisions. By far the best practice is to do this bit yourself. Folly Mox (talk) 18:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I was confused about the elevation ref bit. This is super helpful! KilimAnnejaro (talk) 02:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Ken Eberts has been dead for ~2 months and page isnt updated

While doing research on a list of automotive artists I made, I discovered Ken Eberts died around September of this year, however his page (and the page on the AFAS) still haven't been updated to accomodate this. I don't really know how to edit wikipedia articles properly myself, and I can't even find an exact date of death! Would anyone better at editing than me be able to make this edit? Or is there been a reason the page hasn't been updated? 2A00:23C4:B780:8101:A1CD:961:A20B:2FBE (talk) 15:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I updated Ken Eberts with his death date of August 14, 2024 and added a reference. The reason that the article hadn't been updated is that Wikipedia is a volunteer project with over 6.9 million articles and no volunteer got around to this update until now. Cullen328 (talk) 17:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Yes, I know the site is volunteer run, but 2 months is an edit time that's unheard of to me, so I thought that there might possibly be a reason I was unaware of. I guess some things just go under the radar. 2A00:23C4:B780:8101:A1CD:961:A20B:2FBE (talk) 21:58, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Timecard

On the editor stats page, under the timecard is the option to use local time instead of the UTC default. It doesn't seem to change anything when ticked though; has it been discontinued or is it just a browser thing my end? SerialNumber54129 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Or is your local time actually UTC? Then it wouldn't show any change either. 176.2.70.177 (talk) 17:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I think SN is in the UK, so that explanation seems likely. My timecard shifts over when I tick the box. Folly Mox (talk) 17:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I deliberately tested it on editors I know to be absolutely elsewhere so as to eliminate that particular possibility. SerialNumber54129 18:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

 Works for me

I'm on Firefox. Folly Mox (talk) 18:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

No, you must be on FireMox. I'm on Firefox  :) thanks for the pics. I don't understand this at all, tbh. Literally the check button is 'dead'. Non-responsive. Bizarre. SerialNumber54129 19:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

It certainly sounds like a browser issue. I think even html / css that disables tickboxes will grey them out rather than leaving them unselectable with normal styling. I suppose if you're able to replicate in a different browser / on a different device, then a report to VPT might be in order. Folly Mox (talk) 21:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: You said "I deliberately tested it on editors I know to be absolutely elsewhere". Do you think it's the local time zone of the editor? That information is private. It's the local time zone set in the browser viewing https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Serial_Number_54129#timecard. The browser usually copied it from your operating system. See e.g. https://webbrowsertools.com/timezone/ for your setting. It works for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Help

I accidentally added "11" to counter parameter on Talk:Maumoon Abdul Gayoom's archive template and the lowercase sigma bot archived the talk into Talk:Maumoon Abdul Gayoom/Archive 11. What to do. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 18:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

An unregistered editor corrected the parameter and I moved the talkpage archive. Then I idiotically spent three diffs tagging Talk:Maumoon Abdul Gayoom/Archive 11 for G6. Folly Mox (talk) 18:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

somebody's been rude to me in their talk page

very rude Size5football (talk) 21:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

also they said a british swear word. Size5football (talk) 21:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User talk:Bkonrad § West London

I don't view the comment as objectionable. People revert each other all the time, which is no big deal. If someone reverts your edit and explains the problems with it, correcting the problems and retrying is usually an option, or discussion on the talkpage per WP:BRD. Reverting the revert then showing up at someone's usertalk all I may have been wrong but that doesn't mean you get to revert my edit because i said the wrong thing seems less polite than the response. Folly Mox (talk) 21:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

he called me a b*llocks Size5football (talk) 12:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@Folly Mox Size5football (talk) 12:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Size5football, I read that bit differently: I understand it to mean nonsense; i.e. :wikt:bollocks § Noun sense 2, rather than 3.

I do understand now why you felt the comment was so rude. It's certainly direct, but I'm not seeing a personal attack there.

On the substance of the matter under discussion in the talkpage thread, it is true that a hatnote stating "West London" redirects here at the top of the article West London is incorrect, and a bit confusing: it seems like the kind of thing that would be left around in error following an article title change.

In any case, it looks like an uninvolved editor has incorporated the link to West End of London you've been wanting to include, using a more accurate hatnote template, so hopefully the reversions can stop with all involved satisfied about the outcome. Folly Mox (talk) 13:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The statement I may have been wrong but that doesn't mean you get to revert my edit because i said the wrong thing. is ... untrue / rubbish / not how Wikipedia works; the editor whose correct reversion was reverted just expressed it a little more forcefully. No attack on the editor, just a comment on the statement. PamD 17:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The page on The Region Palestine has been heavily altered with information both added and removed this is not right and is misleading

several paragraphs on the region of Palestine have been removed completely while others have been altered to create a Jewish presence on the land and not an Arab/Muslim presence. The page was altered to say that Judaism existed since the beginning and this is not true, there was a renaming of the west bank which is against international law, and there was a clear effort to distort history, and rewrite it fit a narrative, and for the sake of history this cannot be allowed. 186.45.212.244 (talk) 21:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, only users with accounts that are 30 days old with 500 edits are permitted to discuss anything related to the Israeli-Arab/Palestinian conflict, due to special rules in place. I will post these on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

IP Address

Hello Wikipedia, i edited on wikipedia page called Fall of Constantinople, and i didnt even ralize that i was logged out, so i got my IP address leaked, please remove it. Nikolaass31 (talk) 23:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Nikolaass31, for this sort of sensitive request, the instructions at WP:RFO apply. Folly Mox (talk) 00:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)