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i want to make wikipidia age

need help for wikipdia page for my company Web4dial2022 (talk) 08:13, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

If your company ("Dial4exportmarket"?) is notable, it's likely that people who aren't connected to it will want to create an article about it, even with no encouragement from you. If it isn't notable, attempts to create an article about it would be merely a waste of time. -- Hoary (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Userboxes/Stats & Tools/Edit count

I want to add a couple of Userboxes to my profile page showing how many articles I've created, etc. Are these particular Edit-count Userboxes dynamic or manual? I don't see any way of coding them to automatically calculate how many articles I've created. Thanks, Muzilon (talk) 10:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Muzilon: They are manual. The current counts are not available in wikitext. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the advice. I won't bother using them then. The userbox showing how long I've been a Wikipedia editor updates itself automatically, so I incorrectly assumed these userboxes would do likewise. Too bad. :( Muzilon (talk) 10:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Muzilon: Nothing about your account is available in wikitext but the current time is, so the account age can be computed and updated automatically if you just write the creation date once as in [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Adding/updating photos

Dear Help Community:

I have recently updated the entry for University of Florida administrator Scott Angle to reflect recent job changes and an award. I also uploaded and submitted a photo. However, that photo is still not posted to his page a week later. Can someone help me understand how I get the updated photo included on his wikipedia page?

Thank you.

Chris Moran AgScribe (talk) 13:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@AgScribe One issue is that the photo needs to be one that you took. You cannot just upload the subject's portrait from his workplace, which is a copyrighted work of said workplace, and claim it as your own work. —C.Fred (talk) 13:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

I work for the organization, and the our organization's photographer took the photo. It is authorized by Dr. Angle, so I don't understand how that is a copyright issue. Do I just need to include a photo credit? I know who the photographer is, since I work with him. 70.185.102.111 (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

It's not enough that you simply give your word that you're allowed to do it. The copyright holder has to explicitly grant Wikipedia an irrevocable license compatible with Wikipedia's policies (that will also allow anyone to use it). More details can be found at WP:DCP. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@AgScribe If you know the photographer, you can get them to authorise your upload of their photos by email to the Volunteer response team. See that link for details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

.... if File:ScottAnglePortrait.jpg gets deleted in the meantime, you can get the photographer to mention its file name and the Commons admins can undelete it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment

Having tinkered with my settings, I'm getting yellow borders around the former last edit and blue ones around a new edit. I've tried to restore the old setting but can't find it. Can you help please? Thanks Keith-264 (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you talking about in the page history of an article/page? That can mean that the relevant article is under Pending Changes review.

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

No, just a bog standard edit. on the left side there are yellow borders and markings, blue on the corresponding new edit column on the right. I accidentally pressed syntax highlighter and while I was trying to get rid, I went to preferences so must have altered something in 'editing'. I've been doing before and after changes and looking at 'Appearance' too but no luck. Thanks Keith-264 (talk) 19:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Does it look something like this?

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+

erf

—Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith-264 (talk • contribs)

That's the default look of diffs. It sounds like you changed it in the past and then changed it back to default recently. I guess you want "Display diffs with the old yellow-and-green colors and design" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Keith-264: This is a diff view. When exactly are you seeing this? Preview? Show changes? Immediately when you edit in visual or source editor? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:34, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

I see it when I look at edits on my watch list. It hasn't looked like this before and I prefer the plain version. Thanks Keith-264 (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

"Display diffs with the old yellow-and-green colors and design" That's done the trick, thanks everyone, much obliged. ;O) Keith-264 (talk) 21:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

William Silvers - General notability guideline

I tried to add my official facebook page causing a "general notability guideline" Tag to appear... I removed the facebook link but the Tag remains... How do I remove the tag? William silvers jr (talk) 16:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@William silvers jr: The tag was not added automatically by your addition of an external link, it was added manually by another editor. You should not remove the tag yourself, and for the future you should not edit the article about yourself. Instead, use edit requests on the article talk page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 16:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@William silvers jr The tags were not added by you but by others including User:Tenryuu. If you are the subject of the article, you should not be editing it yourself owing to your conflict of interest, except in ways described at WP:ASFAQ. Instead, please make edit requests on its Talk Page, citing reliable sources. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

William silvers jr, the biggest problem with that article is that it does not include references to reliable sources completely independent of you that devote significant coverage to you. The relevant notability guideline is at WP:NARTIST. Cullen328 (talk) 18:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@William silvers jr: Please see WP:About you and our FAQ for article subjects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

sort list of Cite book

How to sort the Cite book list in a template? Cannot sort Books list in article Agent Orange. Want alphabetical list. BrucePL (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@BrucePL: Are you trying to make a bibliography à la APA or MLA? Wikipedia doesn't do that; inline citations are numbered in the order they appear in the article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

BrucePL, the sources listed at Agent Orange § General and cited references and in all subsections of Agent Orange § Further reading are already in alphabetical order by author name, which has been done manually by editors at that article.

If you're trying to sort the sources by title, you'll have to copypaste the source list into another app and sort them manually for your own purpose, or import all the citations with citation management software compatible with COinS metadata, then export them into a spreadsheet, then re-export them as concatenated text blocks. Folly Mox (talk) 17:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Unless citation management software can sort citations it's imported by arbitrary fields, which sounds possible. I have no idea. Folly Mox (talk) 17:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I'm not trying to do any of the above. On that page under Further reading/Books is a list of books that is listed by author. I added Fox; anothe user added Wilcox. Both are out of alpha order. I edited the list, which is a template of a list inside of Refbegin and Refend. I cannot figure out how to move Fox and Wilcox into alpha order position. That is where I am stuck. Thanks for any help. BrucePL (talk) 18:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

You're going to have to do it manually; source editor is probably the better editor to use. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I did try the souce editor. It shows two columns, before (-) and after where the new list is shown, each citation with a "+". I cannot move items in the after list. I am in the wrong page in the source editor? BrucePL (talk) 18:29, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Okay. I was trying to edit in Preview. Got out of that and did it in source editor. thanks and sorry!BrucePL (talk) 18:36, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

That's what you get for using the visual editor. Switch to the source editor and move the Fox and Wilcox {{cite book}} templates to their proper positions.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:07, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Edit Notices for 2 templates

Hello all,

As can probably be seen in my editing history, I want to add editnotices to two templates: Template:Style & Template:Manual of Style as a first line of defense against editors adding MoS links to one and not the other. However, despite trying my best to follow suggestions on the editnotice page, I can not seem to make that work. If anyone could add an editnotice to each template, that would be great.

Thanks!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 18:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@JuxtaposedJacob: Please tell us precisely where in your edit history, using diffs or other links, rather than expecting us to hunt around. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Style

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Manual_of_Style

Here they are, I think one of my problems was that I didnt do the linking correctly. If someone could point out how to do that, that would be great.

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 13:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @Pigsonthewing JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 02:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

How can i remove an account that was opened under my personal name

Hello, I saw an account that was opened under my personal name saying bad things about me, Does anyone have any idea on how to remove the account! 185.173.205.26 (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you referring to an article about yourself? 331dot (talk) 19:36, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm assuming an account with your name is editing the Wikipedia article on you? See WP:IMPERSONATION for the section of the username policy concerning this; if they're impersonating you as you say they fall under the scope of this. Go to Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention with the username of the individual and they can help you more there.

As for the content of their edits, if they are making libelous claims, go to WP:BLPN and explain your situation; the team there can remove the record of the information from the article. See WP:LIBEL for the policy on harmful and unsourced claims on Wikipedia.

If, however, the user is revealing non-public personal information about you, then see Wikipedia:Requests for oversight and send them an email. In an instance like this, I'd suggest not publicly acknowledging the information exists, after sending the email don't tell anyone you did (that's just my advice, not official policy; do as you please, but note that anonymous edits to Wikipedia are done under your IP address, which can be geolocated). See Streisand effect for more. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP user.

I'm going to guess that, like many people unfamiliar with Wikipedia, you think that an article with your name is the same as an account with your name, and what you are referring to is an article. If that is the case, please see WP:AUTOPROB for how to proceed. ColinFine (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Administrator note I feel it needs to be said, rahter urgently, that you do not have to and probably should not tell us your real name while trying to resolve this. The advice above regarding contacting the oversifght team is excellent advice, if there is impersonation or libel occuring. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

  +1 User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)