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(This space for rent.)

I’ve been thinking for a while as to whether I should nominate this...and I concluded that it’s worth a shot. Hopefully, this motto will promote this project and motivate users to participate. Just for the record, I have no idea how this is going to be reviewed. But that's for you to decide! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:48, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment. Perhaps this could be used as the emergency motto (when there are none on schedule) instead of 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'. Per A-B, it would encourage more people to help the project out. Wikiert T S C 14:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
That's a good idea, Wikiert. I want to wait for more comments before jumping to that decision so quickly, though. I also have a question: how do I make it the "emergency motto" if I decide to do so? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 05:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved (per consenus) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

→ With Glowing Hearts, we can be Swifter, Higher, and Stronger.

It's the combination to the 2010 Winter Olympics and the Official Olympic motto. I would like it to appear on February 12 2010, the day the Vancouver Olympics begin. Secret Saturdays (talk) 03:13, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/February 12, 2010 (per consenus). Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.

I would like to appear on November 4 (Election day in the US). Secret Saturdays (talk) 21:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Oppose I don't think it's a good idea to relate the Presidency of the United States to adminship, because that might give people the (incorrect) idea that adminship is a position of authority, power, and respect, which it is not. Intelligentsiumreview 01:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose - I completely agree with Intelligentsium on this one. We don't want to be giving the false impression that Adminship is worthy of esteem or special regard, or that it is something people should aspire to. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (per concensus) Secret Saturdays (talk) 02:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

→ We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.

Edit one - This has my support, because it sends a "don't bite based on edit count" message, whilst not portraying admins as authority figures. Intelligentsiumreview 01:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Oppose as the original creator I believe that the other was better in message because I heard of a lot of users that were rejected for adminship because of their age and as such, the age thing m,ust be discussed and be noticed by the community (and we rarely have a problem with edit counting bites). Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:41, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/November 4, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) Secret Saturdays (talk) 02:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Today I am The Luckiest Man On The Face Of The Earth

Lou Gehrigs words in his luckiest man speech i feel that this is a good motto and should be used on his birthday or July 4th . BigPadresDUDE (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Today I am the luckiest man on the face of the earth.

Same thing, only linked to make it relevant to Wikipedia.

  Declined both (no concensus) Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

→ We have so much to be thankful for...

This is, obviously, for Thanksgiving of 2009. I shuffled how I should word this back and forth in my head, but decided that the best way would be the most straightforward and in the sprit of the holiday. So there you have it.  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 22:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/November 26, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) Secret Saturdays (talk) 21:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

The first noel
The angels did say
Was to certain good shepherds
In fields where they lay.

Merry Christmas, Wikipedians, from the team at MOTD!

My proposed Christmas motto (inspired by the Christmas motto from 2006), which is based on The First Noel. ~ Magnus animum (aka Steptrip) 23:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 12:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved La Pianista's edit for December 25th per general consensus.--LAAFansign review 23:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see my comments on Wikipedia talk:MOTD for more explanation.--LAAFansign review 00:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

He who has not Christmas in his heart will never find it under a tree

I'm not enitrely confident about this one. Let me know what you guys think! :) --♥Soccer5525♥Talk To Me! 16:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened(too few opinions) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 06:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved For December 24th per consensus.--LAAFansign review 23:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see my comments on Wikipedia talk:MOTD for more explanation.--LAAFansign review 00:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Friendship before statehood.

The state motto of Texas. I would like to have it released this December 29, the day Texas became a state.Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:14, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 29, 2009 (per consenus) OC-Tex Express (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes we can! [1]

I know wikipedia is non-partisan - but I'm sure this would bring a smile to everyone's face during the next few days. (See below for NPOV solution) Flewis(talk) 11:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

  Declined (no concensus, and Obama is already president for some time anyway) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 12:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes we will!

For our more conservative friends --Flewis(talk) 11:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

  Declined (per consensus) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 06:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Trick or Treat,
Smell my feet,
Give me something good to eat.

Unless it's been used before. iMatthew (talk) 01:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

That wasn't voted as a special nom, just put there as nobody saw there was already a pending special nom, if this passes - it take that one's place. iMatthew (talk) 21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually that was voted as a special nom. See for example here from the history. Sorry. Simply south (talk) 22:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't realize there was allready a special nom for this Halloween. Mea culpa. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

  Approved for Halloween 2009. Simply south (talk) 14:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

→ Wikipedia: The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave

...It's worth a shot. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC) I copied and pasted this motto (which I nominated on October 23rd) to be (possibly) released during next Independence Day (per 88wolfmaster's comment). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC). Moved motto to top (forgot to do so the first time!). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 00:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

  Approved for American Independence Day, 2009. Simply south not SS, sorry 00:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Normal nominations

Latest comment: 14 years ago657 comments28 people in discussion

What is the fastest food in the world? Scone.

Another perhaps better try. Effectively edit 1 on the internet meme. Simply south (talk) 13:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (per consensus, 1 oppose and 1 confusion after reopened discussion) Smaug123 (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Patient:"Doctor, doctor, i feel like a pair of curtains!"
Doctor:"Pull yourself together"

Don't take some things so seriuosly. Simply south (talk) 18:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 05:53, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (per WP:SNOW) Smaug123 (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Patient: "Doctor, doctor, I feel like a pair of curtains!"
Doctor: "Pull yourself together"

Edit 3 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:12, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (per WP:SNOW) Smaug123 (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Know thyself.

I'm not sure if this is gonna work. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 03:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/February 5, 2010 (per consensus, 4 support 0 oppose) Smaug123 (talk) 15:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Adversus solem ne loquitor
("Don't speak against the sun")

I.e., don't argue the obvious. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Adversus solem ne loquitor
("Don't speak against the sun")

Edit 1 per Kayau with WP:FIVE. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:47, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Adversus solem ne loquitor
("Don't speak against the sun")

Edit 2 per Nutiketaiel with Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved edit 2 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Docendo discimus
("by teaching, we learn")

Seneca the Younger (c. 4 BC – 65 AD), epistulae morales I, vii, 8. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Drug free is the way to be!

Nascarfans (talk) 02:42, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOW and MOTD rules. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 12:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Napoleon is always right.

Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/February 2, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Rome wasn't made up in one day.

Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 03:25, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose - it's the 'made up' thing I'm not sure about, since the message is different to the well-known version of the quote with 'made'. Smaug123 (talk) 08:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply I don't know, but I think altering to to fit WP:NFT will be fine but anyway,

  Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Rome wasn't made in one day.

Edit one per Smaug123. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 13:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Oppose in favour of Edit 2 below I like that much better! Smaug123 (talk) 13:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose first two versions- I like the first two links, but the third link really kills it for me. It has nothing to do with the other two and does not follow logically. The message of the quote seems to me to be "Featured Articles need to be developed, and don't put things that were just made up one day on Wikipedia." The two concepts are incongruous. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Rome wasn't built in a day.

Edit 2 - I think this version keeps a little more closely with the theme, which is that building Wikipedia up takes time, and there is no rush since the world isn;t going anywhere. WP:NO DEADLINE would be a more appropriate quote than WP:The world will not end tomorrow, but apparently No Deadline has been tagged as a failed proposal for some reason, so I hesitate to use it. Anyway, this edit has my Strong Support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/February 1, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

→ The wise man builds his house on the rock.

This phrase/proverb comes from a parable in the bible (Matthew 7: 24 - 27). Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 17:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of edit 1 below) Smaug123 (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

→ The wise man builds his house on the rock.

Edit 1. SpitfireTally-ho! 12:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 31, 2010 Smaug123 (per consensus: four strong supporters including me) (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Western democracy is not for China.

The guy quoted this on Newline once. Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 11:18, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and in case you're wondering, I'm NOT announcing battle on the Dalai Lama quote. Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 11:30, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose Isn't this a bit culture-specific? We could have
    → Western democracy is not for Wikipedia.Smaug123 (talk) 13:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply While I must say that Hu never said that western democracy is not for the pedia, which is an encyclopaedia not a country, I'll still add your idea, plus another that I just thought of:
  • Oppose - I see where you're going with this one but... I don't know, it just doesn't sit right with me. I mean, sure, Wikipedia is not a democracy, but it's also not an oppressive oligarchy like China (well, unless you count the WP:Cabals, but we don't like to talk about them). Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply Describing China as an 'oppresive oligarchy' is only a personal opinion... It's a definite improvement since Qin Shihuangdi's reign... Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
      • Reply - You're using a loony tyrant from the warring states period to demonstrate that China has improved? That's not really saying much. OK, I'll support you there. The situation in China has improved a little over the course of the 22 centuries (give or take) since the reign of Shi Huang. That doesn't make the modern Chinese state any less of an oppressive regime. And yes, it is my personal opinion. It is your personal opinion, apparently, that China is a happy-fun-time-place. That doesn't make me any more comfortable with equating Wikipedia with them. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
        • Actually, Ying Zheng's conquest of the state of Qi marked the end of the Warring States period, so when he burnt books, buried scholars and fought babarians, it was already his own Qin dynasty. Anyway, I see that China gives a bad impression to Western countries... Well, I guess I can't do anything to that, so maybe this motto is not so appropiate after all. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:09, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: &#147;You have a choice, we are your voice / Red, blue or yellow. / ... / I'm sorry democracy is changing!!!&#148; — Jaz Coleman / Geordie Walker / Martin "Youth" Glover "Democracy", Democracy, Killing Joke (1996) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply - Thanks for the musical interlude. I'm sure it was very helpful to everyone. Now, was that intended to express your support for the motto, or your opposition, or some kind of suggestion...? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
      • Reply: Well, IMHO the only decent version is the one using Wikipedia instead of China, but we should not re-write quotes, so I think that I oppose all versions. Links are good (or not so bad), but I do not like the phrase itself. It sounds like propaganda to me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:31, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOWBALL Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Western democracy is not for Wikipedia.

Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 15:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOWBALL Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Western democracy is not for China.

Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 15:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak Oppose - I find this version less objectionable, because it seems less blatant about comparing Wikipedia with China, but I still oppose for the reasons I state under the original edit. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOWBALL Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 14:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Cura Personalis
("Care for the entire person")

Motto of a number of Jesuit colleges and universities that reminds teachers to listen to students. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 30, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ My name is Inigo Montoya.
You killed my father.
Prepare to die.

This is my personal favorite quote from The Princess Bride. Think of it as a sort of vengeance-related battle cry. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 16:19, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 29, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Catch it. Bin it. Kill it.

From general medical campaigns. Simply south (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 28, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ “Most musical, most melancholy” bird!
A melancholy bird! Oh! idle thought!
In nature there is nothing melancholy.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834), The Nightingale: A Conversation Poem (1798). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus; 1 in support and 2 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Don't you want somebody to love?
Don't you need somebody to love?
Wouldn't you love somebody to love?
You better find somebody to love.

Seeing how there is quotes that are enitrely linked to WP:BOLD, I wanted to try WikiLove. Beside, it doesn't hurt to try. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Something tells me this is going to go the way of the last one. Simply south (talk) 12:55, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 27, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Starres are poore books, and oftentimes do misse;
This book starres lights to eternal blisse.

George Herbert (1593–1633), The Church: "The Holy Scriptures", Part II –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus; 2 in support and 2 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:49, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

→ If the name is not correct, the words will not ring true.

I found this translation of 名不正則言不順 in the English translation of The True Story of Ah Q. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 06:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 26, 2010 (per bland consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

→ From each according to his ability; to each according to his need!

Origin of the motto and your comments. 76.235.111.214 (talk) 01:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

→ From each according to his ability; to each according to his need!

Edit 1 with different links. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 25, 2010 (per very, very bland consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Do you ne'er think what wondrous beings these?
Do you ne'er think who made them, and who taught
The dialect they speak, where melodies
Alone are the interpreters of thought?
Whose household words are songs in many keys,
Sweeter than instrument of man e'er caught!

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807–1882), Tales of a Wayside Inn: "The Poet's Tale" (1863) (with Wikipedians in the role of the birds) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Do you ne'er think what wondrous beings these?
Do you ne'er think who made them, and who taught
The dialect they speak, where melodies
Alone are the interpreters of thought?
Whose household words are songs in many keys,
Sweeter than instrument of man e'er caught!

Edit 1 (with Articles in the role of the birds) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 24, 2010 (per very very bland consensus but we are running dry again, please HELP! 2 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

No shirt, no shoes, no service.

Suprisingly enough, this common phrase hasn't been used yet. I searched the archives, and it doesn't show up anywhere. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 02:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 23, 2010 (per very-very bland consensus, but our "tank" is nearly empty; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:38, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

→ I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds.

1 Cor 3:10. I can't think of a link for be careful, but I'd like there to be one... any ideas? Singlish Speªker ♪♫ 21:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 22, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

→ I'd like to say that people people can change anything they want to; and that means everything in the world. ... Without people you're nothing.

Joe Strummer (21 August 1952 – 22 December 2002) – Never Forgotten, Always an Inspiration, Always Missed!!! I'm not sure about the last link and WP:WRITERS could be changed with WP:EDIANS. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:52, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 21, 2010 (per very bland consensus, but we are running out of mottos; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey Bobby, what's the french for Va-Va-Voom?

From old Renault adverts with Thierry Henry. Too bland? Simply south (talk) 21:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 20, 2010 (per bland consensus, but we are running dry again; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Some say that the glass is half empty,
But it's important to realize that the glass won’t be like this forever.

This one just sort of came to me. I was juggling as the whether the last link should be to the page shown (Wikipedia is a work in progress), or to the Wikipedia is succeeding page. I think I made the right choice, though. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 16:06, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 19, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

→ The purpose of our lives is to be happy.

Not sure how well the first link works... Singlish Speªker ♪♫ 04:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (consensus: oppose) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 05:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Man must not check reason by tradition...but tradition by reason.

The second I heard this quote by Tolstoy, I thought it would make a good MOTD nomination. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 16:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 18, 2010 (emergency approve) Intelligentsium 00:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

→ If you need instructions on how to get through the hotels, check out the enclosed instruction book.

I just couldn't resist. :-) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 17, 2010 (per consensus; 3.5–4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Only a fool thinks his enemies stand still when he isn't looking.

A quote from the character Damer Flinn to character Rand al'Thor in the Wheel of Time series novel A Crown of Swords by Robert Jordan. I'm trying to get across the point that vandalism continues even when people aren't looking out for it, so we must always be on guard for it. This is the second time I'm nominating this one, as it didn't generate a consensus the first time. The original discussion can currently be found here. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:16, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 16, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

→ It's time to try defying gravity

I got the idea when I heard the song here. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

hmm must have been a typo. I must get a new keyboard. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 15, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:53, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

All your base are belong to us

I know this has been done before but they seem to have been rejected each time. Simply south (talk) 22:46, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per FUI. Simply south (talk) 15:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

→ God's drifting in heaven, devil's in the mailbox,
I got dust on my shoes, nothing but teardrops.

SpitfireTally-ho! 21:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

The most important things in life are often not realised until they're taken away.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 14, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our children.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our children.

Edit 1 per Spitfire. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Support I prefer this version, although Astro is to be applauded for the original idea, SpitfireTally-ho! 20:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose to both versions - First off, I dislike the reference to either Jimbo or the Bureaucrats as parents. They're not. Not even close. Secondly, I don't like the sentiment. What do you mean, we're borrowing Wikipedia from newbies? That doesn't make any sense at all. They actually ARE inheriting it from us, because when newbies come in and edit, they're inheriting the work that previous editors have done, then building on it themselves. Nope, there's nothing in this motto I can get behind. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment. I gave this message because the newbies are really the editors who are likely to be here in the future, when the current editors might no longer be editing. For "parents", whoever started the project on Wikipedia would be a good idea. Finally, this compares the realm of Wikipedia to environmentalism, where future "generations" are really more important.
    • Reply - Sure, current editors might no longer be editing. Newbies might no longer be editing, either. And, as an environmentalist, I do not think future generations are more important that the current generation. I want to preserve the planet for myself and my generation as much as I want to for my nephew and for other people's children. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:05, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - I like it. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 19:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

The use of "newbies" here constitutes registered editor snobbery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.8.24 (talk) 22:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Reply - Oh, grow up. Besides, WP:NEWBIE links to the new editor help page- it's there for the use of all new editors, whether they are registered or not. Don't be so sensitive. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:36, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Comment: Not really, the motto is actually saying that new users should be held in higher regard than more experienced ones. Hardly snobbery. On another note, please stop making comments like these, since they are uncivil, kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 18:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Comment - Definition of Newbie: a slang term for a newcomer to an Internet activity.[1][2][3] NOT just an IP, any new users. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
P.S: Sign you comments. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
  1. ^ Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newbie&oldid=335812075
  2. ^ The Free Dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/newbie
  3. ^ Answers.com http://www.answers.com/topic/newbie

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 13, 2010 (per bland consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ No problem can be solved at the same level of thinking at which it was created.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ No problem can be solved at the same level of thinking at which it was created.

Edit 1 - I removed the last link, which I felt was unnecessary and made no real sense in the context of the rest of the motto. No other changes were made. This version has my support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 12, 2010 (per bland consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikiholism is an ineffable concept.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Open the manual.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The use of "newbies" here constitutes registered editor snobbery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.8.24 (talk) 22:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd mildly point out to you that Nuti was not aiming his comment at IPs, he was aiming it at the slightly newer users who haven't had time to read our policies or guidelines yet. Kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 18:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I would point out the same thing, but I already did (less mildly) at one of your other comments above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 11, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 2 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Live, inspire others, and make a difference.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 10, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Live, inspire others, and make a difference.

Edit 1 - per Nutiketaiel. I would Support this edit. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

If one is seeking happiness, one is unhappy, but if one is seeking something else, one is happy.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus; both versions) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

If one is seeking happiness, one is unhappy, but if one is seeking something else, one is happy.

Edit 1 SpitfireTally-ho! 18:16, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus; both versions) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Humour, it cannot be too often said, must be kind.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Humour, it cannot be too often said, must be kind.

Edit 1 - Per my above, this version has my support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 9, 2010 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 8, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ We all have ability. The difference is how we use it.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ We all have ability. The difference is how we use it.

Edit 1 per Spitfire. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 7, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

→ Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.

What do you think? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.

Edit one, incorporating most of Saturdays ideas, as well as some new ones. SpitfireTally-ho! 12:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 6, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Things don't change by themselves, you have to be active to mould the environment in which you are going to practice.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 5, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The mark of a moderate man is freedom from his own ideas.

~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 4, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:19, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

A place of special meaning and thought,
Be glad of what you've learnt and taught

completely made up on the spot but to me seem meaningful. Simply south (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

A place of special meaning and thought,
Be glad of what you've learnt and taught

Edit 1 ~ Simply south (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 3, 2010 (per bland consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

→ A glory gilds the sacred page,
Majestic like the sun,
It gives a light to every age,
It gives, but borrows none.

William Cowper (1731–1800), Olney Hymns (1779), On the Scripture: "HYMN SIXTY-TWO" –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

→ If all the swords in England were pointed against my head, your threats would not move me.

Yeh, pretty rubbish. >.< SpitfireTally-ho! 08:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

→ If all the swords in England were pointed against my head, your threats would not move me.

Edit 1, per La Pianista. I really like this version of the links. I think WP:DENY sends a very good and strong message in that context, and I think it is an important reminder to editors that one of the greatest tools for fighting vandalism is to deny recognition. This version has my Strong Support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 2, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

If you're not getting dirty, you're not having fun.

My mom has always told me this. Any better ideas for the second link? Wiki548 (talk) 17:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

If you're not getting dirty, you're not having fun.

Edit 1 - Only one link, suggested by La Pianista. Wiki548 (talk) 00:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 1, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

If you're not getting dirty, you're not having fun.

Edit 2 - One more option for the second link. Wiki548 (talk) 04:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

→ You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: A dimension of helping, sharing, and doing.
You’re moving into a land of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into: The Wiki Zone.

This is my take-off of the famous Twilight Zone monologue that opens every episode. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 23:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Very Very Weak Support - I think the links are excellent, but I'm not that keen on the alterations of the original quote, though in this context I suppose it could be taken as humorous. Still not too keen on it, though. Also, I think "The Wiki Zone" sounds very corny. The links are so well chosen, though, I can't help but support it a tiny bit. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Suggestion - Even more humorous would be to leave "The Twilight Zone" in its place. Like WP would hypnotize you or something. I agree with Nutiket; "The Wiki Zone" is more than a little cheesy. Also, I'd suggest replacing the colon after "into" with ellipses. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 07:45, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Support for reasons listed in Edit 1. Wiki548 (talk) 04:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

→ You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: A dimension of helping, sharing, and doing.
You’re moving into a land of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into...The Twilight Zone.

Edit 1 per La Pianista's suggestion. I usually have a good cheesiness-radar; I’m surprised it didn’t pick this one up. Oh well. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 21:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 31, 2009 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

It's what's up front that counts

Hope people get the message. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 07:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It refers to the material of the article. I knew at least someone wouldn't get it. Laugh out loud. 174.6.186.104 (talk) 05:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The bells themselves are the best of preachers,
Their brazen lips are learned teachers,
From their pulpits of stone, in the upper air,
Sounding aloft, without crack or flaw,
Shriller than trumpets under the Law,
Now a sermon and now a prayer.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807–1882), Christus: The Golden Legend, Part III (1851) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:33, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (There is presently not enough consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

→ The bells themselves are the best of preachers,
Their brazen lips are learned teachers,
From their pulpits of stone, in the upper air,
Sounding aloft, without crack or flaw,
Shriller than trumpets under the Law,
Now a sermon and now a prayer.

Edit 1 per WVRMad –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 30, 2009 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:33, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Holy Bible, book divine,
Precious treasure, thou art mine;
Mine to tell me whence I came;
Mine to teach me what I am.
 
Mine to chide me when I rove;
Mine to shew a Saviour's love;
Mine art thou to guide my feet;
Mine to judge, condemn, acquit.

John Burton (1773–1822), Holy Bible, Book Divine (1803); music composed by William Bradbury (1816–1868) in 1858. If this is not too "blasphemous" for you... but I thought that we are close to Christmas. Links to PLAY the hymn and the FULL LYRICS. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per WP:SNOW although rather weird considering the day that this is being approved on. It has been snowing here. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Only a fool thinks his enemies stand still when he isn't looking.

A quote from the character Damer Flinn to character Rand al'Thor in the Wheel of Time series novel A Crown of Swords by Robert Jordan. I'm trying to get across the point that vandalism continues even when people aren't looking out for it, so we must always be on guard for it. I like the links, but while I considered adding more for "fool" and "stand still," I could not think of any that would fit "stand still," and every link I could think of for "fool" was insulting to general Wikipedians, so I left it alone. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ My Book and Heart
Must never part.

New England Primer –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:09, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Creating a suggestion can make a day.

I hoping this will make sense and is a message to make more motto's. Noneofyour (talk) 22:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Creating a suggestion can make a day.

Edit 1 – Suggestion from WVRMad. Noneofyour (talk) 13:48, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

A contribution a day keeps the doctor away.

Edit 2 - no offense to doctors. I've also gone off on a tangent, if that's alright. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 21:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (both; no consensus. Edit 2 withdrawn per FUI) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined all - no consenus. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ That's the funny thing about arriving somewhere... Once you're there, the only thing you can really do is leave again.

From the character Kelsier, to the character Vin, in Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series. This motto is intended to express the idea that, even when you shepherd an article to a great state, there is always something else to do at Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Seems to be saying all featured articles eventually decline, which is not necessarily the case. In fact, most featured articles actually improve with time. Intelligentsium 22:43, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose - per Intelligentsium. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 10:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support ~ I got it. We (and FAs) must not rest on laurels. Correct me if I'm wrong. It is good to me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    • Reply - Yes, that's correct, Pjoef. What I'm saying is that after we create a featured article, we can't stop there- we have to move on and start working on more articles, because Wikipedia is a work in progress. Does anybody have any link suggestions that may get this across more clearly? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support. I like this linking better than the one below, which seems to say that consensuses are always unpredictably changeable. I think this linking makes a lot of sense; after an FA is created, we have to leave it to create more. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 23:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose in favor of Edit 1, but this is still OK. Wiki548 (talk) 20:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I love the concept. The meaning is thoughtful, fresh, and is a great point that we forget from time to time. The linking couldn't be done better. But I do have a problem with the quote. If it had ended "you can really do is start going somewhere else," or "you can really do is try to stay where you are," (I know the second one doesn't really make sense) I wouldn't have an issue. Since it is the way it is, it sounds as if featured articles can only go downhill. I understand that's far from your point, but the quote doesn't live up to the meaning. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 07:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ That's the funny thing about arriving somewhere... Once you're there, the only thing you can really do is leave again.

Edit one - Completely unrelated to the original message, but these may be the only links I can think of that make sense. The thought of the original is good though; perhaps for an easier quote? Intelligentsium 23:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Learning to love yourself, it is the greatest love of all

Simply south (talk) 20:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (both; no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Nutiketaiel’s right, wiki-love is more about being kind to others than loving yourself. Messages about wiki-love are certainly welcome, but we shouldn’t just tag the idea to any quote about love. ---Artichoke-Boy (talk)(sign) 23:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Clerk declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Defeat is not the worst of failures. Not to have tried is the true failure.

From BrainyQuote. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 14:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Defeat is not the worst of failures. Not to have tried is the true failure.

Edit 1 - Per Pjoef's suggestion. I think this one gets the meaning across better, and has my support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutiketaiel (talk • contribs) 08th December, 2009

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 23, 2009 (per consensus; 4 in support) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The best index to a person's character is
(a) how he treats people who can't do him any good, and
(b) how he treats people who can't fight back.

Not sure about this, the idea that a vandal can't fight back comes around because they're bound to get blocked... Hmm, yeh, not sure, *rambles on a bit more* SpitfireTally-ho! 22:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose - I don't think the linking of "people" to the new contributors' help page is the best, nor is saying that newbies can't do any good. Furthermore, it is more likely than not that if vandals are "forgiven", they just come back to vandalize again (hence the few successful unblock requests). Intelligentsium 01:38, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose - I don't think the line how he treats people who can't do him any good is saying that new users can't do any good but saying he is not going to get anything out of adopting new users, but he's doing it out of the kindness out of his heart and trying to help them. I also agree with Spitfire, I don't think the last line is particually good and is the worst part of the motto. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I agree with Intelligentsium and WVRMad's concerns about the linking. Additionally, I don't like the motto itself- there is nobody on Wikipedia who "can't do any good." Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:41, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The best index to a person's character is
(a) how he treats people who can't do him any good, and
(b) how he treats people who can't fight back.

Edit 1. Better links I think. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved (see below) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The best index to a person's character is
(a) how he treats people who can't do him any good, and
(b) how he treats people who can't fight back.

Edit two - reversed to make vandals those who can't (or refuse to) do any good. Intelligentsium 23:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (all versions; no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved (Edit 1) for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 22, 2009 (per consensus; 3 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The strongest bond of human sympathy outside the family relation should be one uniting working people of all nations and tongues and kindreds.

Not sure about that last link, the entire motto is a bit "meh" anyway, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 21, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Hey my children
What seems important won't last forever

"Cancer" (Richard Patrick/Frank Cavanagh), Filter, Title of Record (1999) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

Hmm, not sure about this, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

Edit one: Obviously, no deletionist would see an XfD candidate in an FA, so there is some asymmetry between the links. Intelligentsium 00:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Try before you buy

I think I'll leave the second link as i think it may work even though it was was by accident Simply south (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Try before you buy

What i meant. Simply south (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Great leaders inspire greatness in others.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 00:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Support - Not bad, not bad. The links are very appropriate. Is this really being attributed to that shitty cartoon, though? Surely this quote was said by somebody else and then taken by the cartoon? I'm certain I've heard it before. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it originated from here. And PS:compared to the other cartoons about Star Wars, this one is pretty golden. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Reply - That's like saying "compared to the other monkeys who have gotten behind the wheel, THIS monkey is a good driver." Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

And I bet that monkey is one of those that are typing Shakespeare's work right now. :) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 04:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Peace on earth, good will to men
Is the greatest gift of all

Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton, "The Greatest Gift of All" (1984) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Peace on earth, good will to men
Is the greatest gift of all

Edit 1 - per Nutiketaiel, I Support this edit. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Peace on earth, good will to men
Is the greatest gift of all

Edit 2 - per Nutiketaiel, this edit has my Strong support. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ We all need to have a creative outlet - a window, a space - so we don't lose track of ourselves

Unsure of my a window link plus maybe lose track could be WP:VOA? &#0149;xytram&#0149;tkcsgy 12:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

→ We all need to have a creative outlet - a window, a space - so we don't lose track of ourselves

Edit 1 Links amended as per Pjoef. wp:Defending article quality works well since over the lifespan of an article with so many edits it can messy. &#0149;xytram&#0149; tkctgy 12:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 00:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Those who can make you believe absurdities, can also make you commit atrocities

Original French: "...qui est en droit de vous rendre absurde est en droit de vous rendre injuste". I meant this for Voltaire's (or more correctly, François-Marie Arouet) birthday (21 November), but I must have forgotten or something. Intelligentsium 03:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 15, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Those who can make you believe absurdities, can also make you commit atrocities

Edit one - Similar alternative; slightly different links. Intelligentsium 03:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

One of your five-a-day

Simply south (talk) 11:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_A_Day

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you had your five-a-day?

Edit 1 per WVRMad Simply south (talk) 19:24, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 14, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Together, Everyone Achieves More.

Links could be changed to better links. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 07:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  • I learned this phrasing of "TEAM" in my leadership sessions. There are probably a million other acronyms you can make up from "TEAM", but this one fits great with Wikipedia and MOTD. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 06:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 13, 2009 (per consensus; X in support and X opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:48, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Knowledge grows when shared

WIKIPEDIA FOREVER! :) 76.228.196.191 (talk) 03:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 12, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Cover before you smother

Simply south (talk) 11:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 11, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Treat a man as he is, he will remain so.
Treat a man the way he can be and ought to be, and he will become as he can be and should be.

Hmm, hope you like this one, SpitfireTally-ho! 22:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Treat a man as he is, he will remain so.
Treat a man the way he can be and ought to be, and he will become as he can be and should be.

Edit 1 - Changed the first link to something I feel is more appropriate. Also incorporated WVRMad's suggestion for the last link. This version has my Support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 10, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

→ If you want to make the world a better place,
take a look at yourself and make that change

Avoid too many CTW ones but i may work better without the world link. Simply south (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 9, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

→When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

A famous line from the Beatles song let it be. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 8, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

→ Say I do, I do, I do, I do, I do

Simply south (talk) 23:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 7, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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