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As long as it's true,
The bizarre can stay too.

This is my first attempt at a rhyming motto. Hopefully I can pull this off.  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 22:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 23:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

→ Love is something if you give it away,
Give it away, give it away.
Love is something if you give it away,
You end up having more.

I don't think Wikipedia has got any article on the song but here are the lyrics. Any ideas to improve the links? WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 16:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 20:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Everybody has friends, but not everybody has Wiki-friends

Finding it hard to put this one into explanatory terms, but I'm sure you can figure it out for yourselves. Pr3st0n (talk) 23:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I think of my real friends in the same way too. It's just one of those lame, but weird wiki-phrases that I concocted, to show there's such thing as wiki-friends too, just to make them feel special in their own little way. Pr3st0n (talk) 13:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I understand that Wikipedia isn't solely a place for socialising, however, we do come across some good-natured people throughout the talk pages, both user talk, and article talk. And those are the people I call "wiki-friend", people who are there to lend a helping hand at that hour of need. Pr3st0n (talk) 14:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 20:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

→ A rosebud set with little wilful thorns.
And sweet as English air could make her, she.

Alfred Tennyson (1809–1892), The Princess: Prologue (1847). I'm not sure about the link I've used for "sweet as English air"→(Wikipedia:Articles that are more comprehensive than on Encyclopedia Britannica). Alternatively, it can be linked to WP:2→(Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge), or unlinked. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 17:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

→ A rosebud set with little wilful thorns.
And sweet as English air could make her, she.

Edit 1 - Per LAAFan's suggestion, above. Makes the same point as the original, but hopefully in a manner that would be less objectionable to Deletionists. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

→ He can also edit French. In Russian.

Someone link them for me please. :D -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 19:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Trying to say that Wikipedia is a diverse community, having over 150 languages, and such. Now that I think of it, it really isn't a great motto after all... -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 02:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened Per no consensus.--LAAFansign review 22:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined Per WP:SNOW--LAAFansign review 21:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Representation of WP:BEANS. 67.180.161.183 (talk) 01:34, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 12, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Don’t fight fire with fire,
Water works a lot better.

This one's about "staying cool when the editing gets hot."  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 14:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 11, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Every article is a story, make yours a best seller

--LAAFansign review 21:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 10, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

آزموده را آزمودن خطاست
("It is a mistake to try the tried one.")

This is an Afghani proverb, essentially saying you should try to do new things. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 9, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

To Wikipedia, or not to Wikipedia... that is the question!

We should all know by now that good old Shakespearian proverb "To be, or not to be... that is the question", well this is a more modern wikipedian version. It basically reflects those days when we think to ourselves, "am I in the mood to edit something, or not?" Pr3st0n (talk) 03:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Of course, the quote was probably used before (see WP:MOTD/FREQUENT).  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 20:18, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I did a search for (to be) in all the archives yesterday, but couldn't find it SpitfireTally-ho! 06:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm open to it being tweaked a little, if anyone has a suggestion! Pr3st0n (talk) 13:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, Spitfire and Pr3st0n. I did another search and found both it (that is To be or not to be) and variations of it. See Archive 6, Archive 13, Archive 3, Archive 5 and a few other archives. Simply south (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 16:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Gossip is like wildfire, it's easy to spread and hard to put out.

Secret Saturdays (talk) 01:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOW.--LAAFansign review 18:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

A place to grow.

--LAAFansign review 21:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus.--LAAFansign review 18:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Have you seen me?

Parody of classic Lifetouch ads. 67.180.161.183 (talk) 22:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 23:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Ah! A heading. Set sail in a... general... that way direction.

The idea is that if you are don't have anything to do or unsure what to do, there are always open tasks. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per WP:SNOW. Simply south (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever

Mohandas Gandhi.Show the purpose of wikipedia in the way of how we act and the purpose of knowledge. SchnitzelMannGreek. 14:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 12:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (Note: I have moved this quote from the Special nominations page.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever

This might work so edit 1. Simply south (talk) 16:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved edit 1 and   Declined original per consensus.--LAAFansign review 22:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Raise your hand if you're sure.

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 4, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Lipsmackin' thirstquenchin' acetastin' motivatin' goodbuzzin' cooltalkin' highwalkin' fastlivin' evergivin' coolfizzin' Pepsi.

Though I don't like Pepsi. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 3, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

→ With more power comes more responsibility... and fewer coffee breaks.

Based off the "With great power..." quote. Made it up here, figured I might as well put it here. A little insignificant (talk) 00:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Strong support and suggestion Maybe there should be a link for "Coffee breaks"? --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
    I couldn't think of one, that's why I didn't include a link, but I agree it would be better if there was one. Are there any fun (and acceptable) activities admins aren't allowed to do? A little insignificant (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
    Perhaps WP:DOF? 67.180.161.183 (talk) 23:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
    I think that would work great! Thanks, I've included it. A little insignificant talk to me! (please!) 23:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Stong support/Suggestion - Great twist! How about an arrow to spiderman (→) as that's were the start of the moto comes from? WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 07:43, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
      Done! A little insignificant (talk) 14:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
    Changed the arrow to Stan Lee, as he wrote the line itself. A little insignificant (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong suppport - As for the coffee break thing, maybe you could link to WP:TEA. Glacier Wolf 17:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
    Would that be saying that admins are underappreciated? I love the essay itself, though. A little insignificant (talk) 19:24, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
    Meh, just throwing stuff out there. :P Glacier Wolf 14:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
    I went ahead and included it. People can make what they want of it. Thanks! A little insignificant (talk) 15:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose - It seems to me to be discouraging WP:TEA, when there is nothing wrong with Tea for Admins or anyone else. Additionally, I think "fewer coffee breaks" would be more correct. Also, I'm pretty sure it's "with great power," not "with more power" Finally, why do we need to mangle the original quote in this way? What's wrong with just the original quote without the coffee reference? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
    I'm sorry about the link to WP:TEA, I guess it's not necessary, I've removed it and corrected the grammar. I added the coffee part to make it funnier, as I prefer humor. I know the original quote uses the word "great", but it didn't make as much sense for the joke and isn't necessary to recognize the quote. I never intended to mangle it.
    I'm trying to include every suggestion I'm given, and I'm sorry if I can't make everyone happy. I will say that the quote itself without the joke strikes me as recycled and bland, and I would not support it in a discussion. A little insignificant (talk) 16:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
    Sorry about the tea reference. That was my idea, and a bad one at that. Glacier Wolf 02:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
        • Reply - Glacier, Insignificant, you guys don't need to apologize for your ideas just because somebody else disagrees with them. I'm sorry if I came off a little bit angry, "mangle" was probably a poor choice of words. I thank you for addressing my concerns. However, my position remains Strong Oppose per Pjoef's revelation below that the main portion of the quote has been used before. As a general rule, I do not support reusing mottos unless we are absolutely, totally and in all other ways out of ideas entirely. Admittedly your joke does change the motto, but in my opinion not enough to differentiate it from the last time it was used. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment: It has been used before in 2007. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Reply I don't get why this would affect anything. That was over two years ago. People have joined since, and a lot of people have probably forgotten we've used this quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
      • Reply - Strictly speaking, we don't have a policy of not reusing mottos. There's nothing to stop you from reccomending one, and nothing to stop everyone from supporting it and, should it gain consensus, nothing to stop it from being approved and used. I personally, however, will not support a motto that has been used before untill we run completely out of ideas. There are so many possible mottos out there that I just don't think we need to be repeating them yet. I think, whether people remember the old one or not (and I agree with you, they probably won't), it sets a bad precedent and may lead us to simply cherrypicking through old mottos when we hit a slow patch, rather than putting on our thinking caps and coming up with new ones (or recruiting more editors to help us). My position of opposing reused mottos is a personal one, but it's one I think other editors share. My Strong Oppose stands; if you can achieve consensus over my disagreement, I will not object further as clearly the consensus will then be behind you, but that won't stop me from opposing the next repeat motto either. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
    I do want to make it clear that I didn't know it had been used before when I suggested this. I wasn't trying to get away with an old motto during a bout of writer's block or something, I just thought of it, liked it, decided why not. Judging by the rest of the page, I don't think there's such a shortage of mottos that anyone has to pick and grab at old ones, and I don't think anyone has, but I'm not familiar with this area of Wikipedia, so it might be going on all the time and I don't know. A little insignificant (talk) 15:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
          • Reply- I wasn't implying that you had done so; indeed, I have no doubt that you thought up the motto yourself. One of my concerns, however, is that if we allow a reused motto now, people will start looking for reusable mottos whenever we start running low. Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
    I see exactly what you mean. That is an important thing to avoid, and we shouldn't promote it. On the other hand, nobody knew it had been used before until Pjoef went looking for it. A little insignificant (talk) 23:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - I don't mind it being used before, because technically, you changed it, and made it funnier. 67.180.161.183 (talk) 23:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 2, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

→ With great power comes great responsibility

Edit 1 per Nutiketaiel. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

→ It's kind of fun to do the impossible.

A quote from Walt Disney. It's one of my favorites because it tells you that you can go beyond the duty of other people (in a good way of course). Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

→ It's kind of fun to do the impossible.

Edit 1 per I dream of horses - How does everyone think of this? --I dream of horses (T) @ 01:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

→ It's kind of fun to do the impossible.

Edit 2 per Smaug123 (talk) 15:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened all - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined All three versions per WP:SNOW and lack of interest. (no votes in over two weeks.)--LAAFansign review 03:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

→ The shadows of the past can be felt by the present.

From the episode, The Firebending Masters. Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per majority consensus.--LAAFansign review 03:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

→ I do not look upon these United States as a finished product. We are still in the making.

A quote from FDR. Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ I do not look upon these United States as a finished product. We are still in the making.

Is this want you meant, Pjoef? --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Original motto. Per comments in response to edit 1.--LAAFansign review 22:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Crescit eundo
("It grows as it goes")

Lucretius (ca. 99 BC – ca. 55 BC), De rerum natura (On the Nature of Things) (54 BC), and State Motto of the U.S. State of New Mexico. A symbol of dynamic progress. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 15:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Her beauty hangs upon the cheek of night
Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear.

William Shakespeare (1564–1616), Romeo and Juliet, Act I, Scene v (1597) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Oppose - I'm not sure that the racial connotation is something we're looking for, Shakespeare or not. More importantly, though, the links don't make sense to me in the context of the quote. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    (^__^)(^___^)(^____^)(^__________^)....

    &#147;O, she doth teach the torches to burn bright!
    Her beauty hangs upon the cheek of night
    Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop’s ear;
    Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear!
    So shows a snowy dove trooping with crows,
    As yonder lady o’er her fellows shows.
    The measure done, I’ll watch her place of stand,
    And, touching hers, make blessed my rude hand.
    Did my heart love till now? forswear it, sight!
    For I ne’er saw true beauty till this night.    &#148;

    Romeo needs an excess of comparisons to explain and convey all the Juliet's beauty. Ethiopian women are known for their beauty, and in that line Romeo is comparing Juliet's beauty to a rich jewel that sparkles with the brightest light on a black & beautiful skin. I don't think it's racist or with a racial connotation. It's more about beauty.... I'd like to say "the most beautiful of the beautiful" or "more beautiful than beauty itself." So, the set of links seems good to me. (IMHO obv.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 13:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    MEA CULPA /o\ /o\ /o\ /o\.... I thought you were talking about those two links in the second line related to the "jewel in an Ethiop’s ear" and I have not checked to the links in the first line. I do not remember what I thought when I did this, but it do not make sense to me too /o\. Maybe I did not wanted to repeat FA everywhere. I'm sorry, this is the second time I have made a mistake of this kind /o\. What about using WP:TFA (Wikipedia:Tomorrow's featured article) for "Her beauty"? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose What? I don't get the quote, never mind the links. --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Apart from the issue raised by Nutiketaiel, I don't see how the links relate to each other or the quote. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - What does it mean?!? WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 14:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined Per WP:SNOW--LAAFansign review 21:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Friendship before statehood.

The state motto of Texas. I would like to have it released this December 29, the day Texas became a state.Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:14, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 29, 2009 (per consenus) OC-Tex Express (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


→ Every single man, woman and child is a partner in the most tremendous undertaking in our history. We must share the good news and the bad news, the defeats and victories- the changing fortunes of time.

An edited version of an FDR quote. The originial can be viewed here. Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Strong Oppose - We should not be "editing" quotes. I can understand removing "American," though it should be replaced with "..." to indicate that something was removed, but "war" should not have been changed to "time." Suggestion below. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Every single man, woman and child is a partner in the most tremendous undertaking in our... history. We must share the good news and the bad news, the defeats and victories.

Edit 1- I think this gets accross the point that Secret Saturdays was going for. I removed the last part of the quote entirely, as it was innapropriate in its original form, and we should not change it to fit us. Besides, it was unnecessary to the point being made. I added the ellipsis to indicate the removal of the word "American" from the quote. I'm not that keen on altering the quote at all, but if we're going to do it we have to make it clear that we have done so. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Support I like this quote, and the links go along with it. --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support This is one of the rare instances that I like an edited version of my quote (that doesn't make me a narcissist).

Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 28, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Think big

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Think big

Edit 1 – Still bland, but I think the link relates more to the quote with this one. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 27, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 26, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ It takes a tough person to make a tender chicken.

Edit 1 – This better? --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose; while tough women can also make tender chickens, I would prefer not altering the original quote. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 15:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Neutral - I don't think it really matters if you don't keep the exact phrase, (even though it's nice to do so). However, women can make just as 'tender chickens' as men! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 16:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose - We should ABSOLUTELY NOT be rewriting direct quotes, no matter how politically incorrect some people may find them. We need to use the original quote, or drop it entirely, not mangle it just because some people forget that "man" can be a gender neutral term. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Little Joke for Nutiketaiel: We should use "Pan sapiens"!!! ... Chickens, bonobos,... This place is becoming a zoo (^___^)! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
      • Confused Reply - I don't get it. What monkeys? Do you mean "Pan" in the original sense of the word, or "Pan" in a taxonomic sense? Either way, I still don't get it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
        • Pan sapiens, the word "Pan" is the genus. I wrote the link to the Taxonomy section in the Bonobo's article. It says that Pan species are the closest living relatives of humans and some scientists argue that their genus name should be classified as Homo paniscus, or, alternatively, that humans should be re-classified as Pan sapiens. (or something like that ~ it's in that article.) Two months ago, for the first time the World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) have released 9 bonobos back into the wild!!! As I always do, I consulted Wikipedia to know more about bonobo. Anyway, they were just my stupid thoughts about humans... when I read your words about "man"... "bonobo" and "Pan sapiens" come back into my mind. We all are bonobo (^___^) (w/out offence obv.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Don´t leave home without it.

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Yay! No opposes on any of my suggestions! This just made my day! -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
So how would we make the quote have more direct sense? -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 07:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment: A very good job, well done! Thank you all so much! –pjoef (talk • contribs)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 25, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Use what talents you possess; the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best.

Links aren't that brilliant...SpitfireTally-ho! 17:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Use what talents you possess; the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best.

Edit 1 – Per Nutik's suggestion with a slight adaptation. I changed the WP:WIKIPEDIA link to the Wikipedia article as well. --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 24, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Forgiveness does not change the past, but it does enlarge the future.

Hopefully makes sense, its basically saying that if we forgive vandals or other users who edit disruptively then we help them to become trusted users, whereas if we don't forgive them then we make it much harder for them to become a trusted user. Also, another one where we don't have an article for the author :\. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 23, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Panic at the thought of doing a thing is a challenge to do it.

Yes.... another WP:BOLD motto, however, its a while since we've had one, also, we don't have a article for the author, and a quick search on google looks like they may not be notable enough, is this a problem? SpitfireTally-ho! 16:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 22, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Man's greatest gift is knowledge.

A quote by me. Inspired by the Renaissance. Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I meant WP:AWARDS. I shall change it. Secret Saturdays (talk) 18:22, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 21, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Man's greatest gift is knowledge.

Edit 1 – Per spitfire. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Even after all this time.
The sun never says to the earth,
"You owe Me."

A little quote about how wikipedia should always be free for everyone, links could be better, any idea's? SpitfireTally-ho! 12:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 20, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 13:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Even after all this time,
the sun never says to the earth
"You own me."

Edit 1. Slightly adapted, inspired by Pjoef. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 13:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Even after all this time.
The sun never says to the earth,
"You owe Me."

Edit 2. Per myself, inspired by Nutiketaiel and Pjoef. The WP:Dear Reader is pretty bad so I changed the link. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 08:51, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 13:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Feeling gratitude and not expressing it is like wrapping a present and not giving it.

Encourages people to give out awards, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 01:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia: A change in the way you think

It has occurred to me that by editing enough articles here has changed the way I think about things. When I look at the news, I think, "What is the source of that? What is the POV of that?" or when I read things in books, I do the same thing. I want to see the reference material. It has really made a difference in the way I view the world. Hires an editor (talk) 12:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 01:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Carpe diem
("seize the day")

Horace (Venosa, 8 December 65 BC – Rome, 27 November 8 BC), Odes, 1.11, (23 BC). "carpe diem quam minimum credula postero." ("Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow.") –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Support Great idea - although if someone's signed up to MOTD then surely they're already going to have an account? Smaug123 (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support although i wonder why many of your mottos are in Latin? Are you trying to find a loophole with the Frequently Used Ideas section? Btw, this would also work with WP:BOLD but i think without the alternative suggestion (or with) this is better. Simply south (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support in its current version. The current link is fine- a link to WP:BOLD would be adequate, but it is overused and the WP:SIGNUP link is better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose: I think we really need to stop having these Latin motto's, by all means, use Latin sayings, but I think they should be translated to English (rather then having the English and Latin alongside). Also this motto strikes me as a bit flavourless, although I think that encouraging people to sign-up is good, I'm sure we could find a better quote for this purpose, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Reply - I agree that sometimes we go a little overboard with the Latin, and many of them just seem to be random Latin phrases, but this one actually is a widely used phrase with an excellent meaning to Wikipedia. I say keep this one in latin, and be more discriminating about which Latin quotes we let through in the future. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - I like it: Signup to Wikipedia and Seize the Day! I can see Spitfire's point but I think it's a good moto. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Opposing a motto because its' Latin is like opposing an aspiring admin because there are too many administrators already. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Comment: We could probably make that into a motto! "Adversus a motto quoniam Latin est amo adversus admin quoniam illic es quoque plures administrators iam." :D (alright the online translator is a little rusty) SpitfireTally-ho! 10:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 17, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Carpe diem
("seize the day")

Edit 1 – Per Simply south. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Salus populi suprema lex esto.
("The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law.")

The unofficial motto of Missouri. --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:31, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Salus populi suprema lex esto.
("The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law.")

Edit 1. Inspired by Nutiketaiel. I think civility is more of a "law" and WP:BITE is more of an application of it. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 16, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Salus populi suprema lex esto.
("The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law.")

Edit 2 per Nutiketaiel, because I think that this link is a good idea, too. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Live and let live

I hope i'm not coming up with too many similar ones. Simply south (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Live and let live

Edit 1 ~ similar alternative. Simply south (talk) 13:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 15, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Wheel the wild dance,
While lightnings glance,
And thunders rattle loud;
And call the brave
To bloody grave,
To sleep without a shroud.

Sir Walter Scott, 1st Baronet, (15 August 1771 – 21 September 1832), The Dance of Death, IV: SONG (1815) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops... I'm sorry! I've added a link for lightnings glance→WP:ABF, but I'm not sure about it. Moved up because it was incomplete. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Annuit cœptis
("He approves our undertakings")

Annuit cœptis ("He approves (or has approved) [our] undertaking(s)") is one of two mottos on the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States. Taken from Roman poet Virgil's Aeneid, book IX, line 869: "Iuppiter omnipotens, audacibus adnue cœptis" ("Jupiter Almighty, favour [my] daring undertakings.") The motto alludes to the many signal interpositions of providence in favor of the Wikipedia cause (^__^). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Annuit cœptis

Edit 1 per Smaug123. --I dream of horses (T) @ 01:56, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened all (no consensus and/or not enough discussion) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined ALL (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Dulce et decorum est pro Wiki edit

"How sweet and fitting it is to edit for one's Wiki"

An edited version of Horaces's famous poem. I thought this would be a bit of fun. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 10:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 4) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Dulce et decorum est pro Wikipedia ēdere
"How sweet and fitting it is to edit for Wikipedia"

Edit 1 with ēdere, to eat but also to publish/edit in Latin, and Wikipedia instead of wiki.

  • Weak Oppose - This is the least objectionable of the three versions, but to be honest it's still kind of a wierd quote in my opinion. Especially with the current arrow link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support/Comment Famous quote, witty twist! However, edere should not have the bar over the first 'e', I think, since it's only there for pronunciation purposes anyway. Smaug123 (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 4) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Dulce et decorum est pro Patria mori
"How sweet and fitting it is to die for one's country"

Edit 2 the original lines from Horace's Odes, Ode III.2.13-16:

  Declined (in favour of Edit 4) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened all (no consensus and not enough discussion) + Added fourth version –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

How sweet and fitting it is to edit for Wikipedia

Edit 3 all in English and all linked to Wikipedia. Maybe edit for Wikipedia could be in italics or square bracketed because it differs from the original... and/or we can remove the arrow link??? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 4) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

How sweet and fitting it is to edit for Wikipedia

Edit 4 per WVRMad. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 14, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Alis volat propriis
("It flies with its own wings")

Motto of Oregon written by judge Jesse Quinn Thornton. The official English version of the motto is "She flies with her own wings". –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk)

→ Alis volat propriis
("It flies with its own wings")

Edit 1 – One [place that does. Simply south (talk) 09:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Alis volat propriis
("It flies with its own wings")

Edit 1 b Simply south (talk) 11:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined ALL (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ When Greeks joined Greeks, then was the tug of war.

Nathaniel Lee (1653–1692), The Rival Queens, or the Death of Alexander the Great, Act IV, Scene ii (1677). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Audemus jura nostra defendere
("We Dare To Defend Our Rights")

The state motto of Alabama. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 13, 2009 (per bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Treat other editors like they are in your home, not in your way.

I got this from Buster7s' page. I'm not sure whether or not this has been used before, or if we need to use that arrow thingy. --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved Per consensus.--LAAFansign review 03:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Is she not passing fair?

William Shakespeare (1564–1616), The Two Gentlemen of Verona, Act IV, Scene iv (1623) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOW. Simply south (talk) 16:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

→ The one who doesn't want to use the stone for improper uses can only get the stone.

I'm sure it hasn't been used yet. I got the line saying by the headmaster in Philosopher's Stone. World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 08:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandals are mostly children, so watch what children would edit.

From a lot of vandal fighting. Abce2|From the top now!Arggggg! 00:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per WP:SNOW. Simply south (talk) 16:47, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

→ We are family

I know, yet another cultural reference, but I think this is a nice sentiment. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 11, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ Homer do good?

≈ Chamal talk ¤ 07:57, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 10, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Daunting but rewarding

Something i just made up. Simply south (talk) 17:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 9, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields.

Tolstoy quote. Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 04:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields.

Edit 1 per Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 01:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Strong Oppose - This seems to imply that, when you see disruptive editing, the acceptable response is to edit war over it. I'm sorry to keep opposing like this, it is just difficult to think of a set of links that would work for this quote and send an appropriate wikipedia related message. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields.

Edit 2 per Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 06:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields.

Edit 3 per Kayau. Nice tease of wars? Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 12:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Very Weak Support - This is definitely an improvement over the others. I like the humerous aspect. I still dislike the idea that edit wars are inevitable when there is a dispute over an article, but this set of links at least lampoons them. I don't like it, but I think it can make a valid motto, so I am not opposing it at this time. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak support this one, oppose the others. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 8, 2009 (per very bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened all - both no consensus and not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

→ No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.

A quote from the movie "Dead Poet's Scoiety". It's one of my favorites because it's true.Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 7, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

→ No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.

Edit 1. Inspired by Pjoef. Even if some criticize wikipedia, we have changed the world.

  Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Friendship is the brightest light in the darkness of times

Again another quote I made up. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 6, 2009 Secret Saturdays (talk) 18:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Learn from yesterday, live for today dream of tomorrow

One I made up. The quote was inspired by one from Walt Disney. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Declined (Edit 1 of this motto already approved) Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


Learn from yesterday, live for today, dream of tomorrow

Edit 1 per I dream of horses (added links) - I know external links are rarely used, if ever, but how does this look? --I dream of horses (T) @ 01:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 5, 2009 Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

→ No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.

Per Pjoef. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (one vote and unnecessary link) Smaug123 (talk) 15:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.

Just a reminder that edit wars can only go so far. There's a point when we need to talk to each other. --I dream of horses (T) @ 16:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined - withdrawn\FUI. Simply south (talk) 18:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts

A sports one below reminded me of this. Simply south (talk) 20:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 4, 2009 (per WP:SNOW) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Time is money

--90.201.164.97 (talk) 22:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

But "why" is a good question, too, I suppose. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Suggest linking to WP:FC; more neutral that way. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 3, 2009 (per very bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Live long and prosper

I hope these links work, showing you can get along well if you are not so judgemental. Btw, a past version with diferent links was proposed by me about 4 months ago at Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day/Nominations/Archive_19#Live_long_and_prosper. Simply south (talk) 23:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 2, 2009 (per very bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ E'en copious Dryden wanted, or forgot,
The last and greatest art—the art to blot.

Alexander Pope (1688–1744), Imitations of Horace, Book II, Epistle I, Line 280 (1733–1738). It's about the Shakespeare's tradition to do not correct his works. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 1, 2009 (per very bland consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Who steals my purse steals trash.

Just a famous Shakespeare quote to warn vandals. I'm not sure whether it will be good enough, but I guess it's worth a try. Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 02:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Who steals my purse steals trash.

What about this one? Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 02:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined all (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

War is meaningless action but peace is the strongest force

Another quote by me. It's inspired by the teachings of Matahama Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Approved per WP:SNOW. Simply south (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him.

Wyatt915✍ 15:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Oppose - I like the idea, but I really don't see how you can get a firm foundation of credibility from vandalism. We need to come up with a better idea for the second link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Support ~ I think he was saying that you can get a firm foundation of credibility despite/in spite of vandalism, it makes sense to me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
    • Reply - I am sure that that was the intended message, but that's not what gets across to me. It seems to be implying that you use the "bricks" of vandalism to build the "foundation" of credibility, which is contradictory to my way of thinking. We revert vandalism, and replace it with sourced content and brilliant prose; we don't make a house out of it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Support and suggestion Maybe "bricks" can be linked to some kind of dispute resolution page? Like, we build a house despite (or because of) having disputes? --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)   Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ A cat may look at a king. The cat may be wrong in its conclusions, but others, following its gaze, can draw their own.

Times (1998) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 13:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


Criticism is something you can avoid by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing.

I've had this quote at the top of my talk page for over a year now (After I saw it on MoP's talk page), and when I saw the request for mottoes of the day, I thought this could be a good one ;). Mifter (talk) 17:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Weak support Although it could be misconstrued, to me it is clearly saying that criticism is something that happens to everyone, except ones who do nothing, and as such we should not let that criticism destroy us, lest we too become "nothing". I disagree with some of the links though, specifically WP:MW, as I do not think that users who have left are suddenly worthless, and I also disagree with the link for criticism, but to be honest I can not think of a better one, SpitfireTally-ho! 11:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Changing my position from "Weak Support" to "Oppose." The more I look at this motto, the less pleased I am by it and the message it seems to send. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Suck, baby! Suck! Mother's love grows by giving:
Drain the sweet founts that only thrive by wasting!

Charles Lamb (1775–1834), The Gypsy's Malison (1829) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

There are worst crimes than vandalizing articles. One of them is not contributing to them.

Another one I made up. The quote was inspired by one from Leon Troksy or another person with a similar name. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)

  Declined per consensus. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Good game.

Something that PE teachers, and camp counselors often told me and my fellow teammates and opponents to say if we were ever caught in a moment of bad sportsmanship. We weren't "in it to win it", but just to have fun. Wikipedia is the same way. --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

→ The pen is mightier than the sword

I'm pretty sure this saying hasn't been used before. The message is pretty simple, as you can see, but important.  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 15:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 28, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Let him who would enjoy a good future waste none of his present.

Roger Babson I wasn't able to find the origin. I was thinking of it saying something like that to be an administrator you have to start somewhere. Monkey Fox Contributes! . 03:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Reopened (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Let him who would enjoy a good future waste none of his present.

Edit 1 per Kayau.

  Declined (in favour of edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Let him who would enjoy a good future waste none of his present.

Edit 2 per I dream of horses.

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 27, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Let him who would enjoy a good future waste none of his present.

Edit 3 per Chamal. Kayau Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost 04:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (in favour of edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Fail to prepare, prepare to fail

Simply south (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 26, 2009 (per consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

→ Lead us not into temptation, we already know the way.

Nomination reflects edit wars and consensus struggles in Wiki.--TitanOne (talk) 23:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Strong Oppose both the original quote and both suggestions. The original has no clear relevance to Wikipedia. The first suggestion glorifies and approves of biting newbies, which is bad. The second suggestion suggests that Consensus is the way to War, which is the opposite of what we want. I can't think of any set of links that would render this quote acceptable. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose all per Nutiketaiel.  ARTICHOKE-BOY  (Talk) 16:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

  Declined (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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