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Actor (or Voice Actor) born "January 17, 1952" years active: "1967-present"

There was an actor or a voice actor on Wikipedia I saw a long time and a while ago with a wikipedia page born "January 17, 1952," and his "years active" on it said "1967-present (1967–present)," but now I can't find the name of the actor, I thought I ask this question so that other Wikipedia admins would direct message me on here. Yes, I had the guy's birthday in my head right, he had either a 2020 or 1 picture of him that looked like he was either sitting at his computer and possibly doing a zoom meeting or something else on Wikipedia, plus he's fully American, I can't remember his name, but I know he's a male person, if anyone has that information, feel free to let know in the comments below. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 01:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

The closest I can find is Beau Weaver, born January 19, 1952.  --Lambiam 07:29, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

That seems to fit, having started his career at 15. I didn't see a source for the birth date. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it is indeed, indeed it is. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 16:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much, I knew I was missing something, but Beau Weaver is the one I was looking for, I appreciate you finding it for me. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 16:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you can figure out the date discrepancy. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:32, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect recall?  --Lambiam 21:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Is this plot device/trope ever used anywhere else?

In the final arc of Attack on Titan, a hyperbolically evil world compels the main protagonist to resort to mass killing (in this case, a global genocide of all other nations) in self-defense. Is this plot device or trope used in other fictions? If there is already a TV Tropes page for this, please be sure to give a link. Of course, I have already asked this question on that website a while ago but no answer was forthcoming. StellarHalo (talk) 23:20, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I guess Adrian Veidt in Watchmen might qualify, although "self-defense" doesn't quite describe his motivation. CodeTalker (talk) 08:27, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Is this like what happens to Ender in Ender's Game, where the main character is essentially tricked into committing genocide on the Formics? Not sure if there is a TV Tropes page on it, but there is at least another data point. --Jayron32 14:05, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

In TV Tropes it is a Genocide Dilemma if the protagonist considers doing it but also how bad it is, and Final Solution if it is actually done (in any case, remember that TV Tropes is a wiki, so it can't be used as a reference here). And for the future, the site has its own section for those questions in Trope finder. Cambalachero (talk) 16:27, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

In a novel by Michael Moorcock the protagonist wipes out his own people, the Mabden. The existence of other examples would not shock me. —Tamfang (talk) 02:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

I think the Time War (Doctor Who) involves the Doctor wiping out his own race? -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 14:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)