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Message-box template re: use of blogs?

Does Wikipedia have a message-box template that indicates that blogs are generally not considered reliable sources — something like {{Film IMDb refimprove|{{subst:DATE}}}} for pages that use IMDB in citations? I'm probably not searching correctly, but I haven't found one. Eddie Blick (talk) 23:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@Teblick: I don't think so, but you can use {{Self-published}}, {{Unreliable sources}}, and {{User-generated}}, as appropriate. You might find better help at the help desk or village pump, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
@NinjaRobotPirate:, Thanks for the suggestions. I will follow up on them. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hi Teblick looks like I was too slow again, but I'll add a couple of other points. No specific template exists for blogs.
Finding the appropriate inline template (and fully understanding displayed version, options, and documentation before using) can be a challenge. I ended up bookmarking the current list of helpfully categorized inline cleanup tags templates here: Template:Inline_cleanup_tags
For blogs, as NinjaRobotPirate noted, you have a few options. The simplest to remember is {{rs}} (short for reliable source). It automatically categorizes the page but doesn't make a big box. Believe me, please.[unreliable source?]. View source to see I added piped date. Click on link above for documentation on this - and all the other currently recommended inline cleanup templates. If you want a big box, some templates do that.
One usage note: don't over do it with these templates - often it is simpler to be bold and edit in good faith, leaving a good edit summary, adding Talk page note when you feel it needed. -- Paulscrawl (talk) 01:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Paulscrawl, thanks for the additional tips. That page of inline cleanup tags looks good; I'm going to add a link to it to my list of Wikipedia resources. I do try to limit use of other templates and will do so with regard to blogs used as citations; I just didn't know what to put when I needed something. I usually try to find other sources for blog-cited material, but sometimes I fail to find anything. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


I erred in not carefully reading the question and thus my answer, while graciously received by a far more experienced user, may well confuse any new editors who may read this. Let me correct that. Asked for 1, I replied 2. To clarify with needed context, content cleanup tag templates come in two varieties:

  1. . Message box cleanup tag templates are big displays at the top of a page, or sometimes in an article section, as just above. These are what were being asked about. A convenient illustrated list of the most frequently used is here: WP:CLEANUPTAG
  2. . Inline cleanup tag templates do not display message boxes; they usually display small, superscripted text, like {{citation needed}}, the most used and useful of all.[citation needed]. A full list is here: Template:Inline_cleanup_tags

I am sorry for spreading my confusion. Read the friendly manuals. And keep coming back! -- Paulscrawl (talk) 02:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Why My Edits Can't save and just Removed.

Hello and thanks for inviting me for these Tea House , thanks for giving me a chance. I want tell that whenever i just want to edit any film gross or budget it saved for just some time and removed really i know how to edit and i know that i am editing the right that i know about the edit. so please just take my edit also please my respective editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChutunuCboc (talkcontribs) 05:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi and welcome, ChutunuCboc. As of this timestamp, only one of your edits is not the current version on its respective page [1]. In that case, the edit was reverted [2] because it made a claim that was unsupported by any source. Wikipedia's current policies require that all content be reliably sourced and, unfortunately, we are not able to "just take [it]". This is not a comment on your technical prowess. Please see WP:RS for Wikipedia's sourcing standards. Chetsford (talk) 06:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you please review my Artical

Hi there, I had created a page and submitted for review it got declined for copy rights violation. Now i have edited by rewriting in own works can you please let me know will this artical get approved https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Prathyaksha_Ramakrishna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayanth92 (talkcontribs) 07:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Jayanth92: welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately the edits you have made are simply minor surface changes to the wording, which is different from writing in your own words. The current version of the draft is very close to the sources - close enough that it is still copyright violating. The way to avoid this is to start over completely: read the sources, pick some relevant facts (not sentences, just information) and write about those without looking at the source while you are writing. Once you have written a paragraph or two you check against the source to see that you got the facts right. That way it is easier not to get stuck in the same phrasing that the source uses. --bonadea contributions talk 07:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Problem

My son accidentally started a GA review ? I cannot review it , so what should I do?.Kpgjhpjm (talk) 14:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@Kpgjhpjm: - thanks for raising this issue. However, it is Wikipedia policy that editors should not blame other editors for edits made on their accounts, and doing so will not go down well. You are responsible for all edits made on your account - no ifs, buts, or maybes. Stormy clouds (talk) 15:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Stormy clouds:-how can I close the review?. Kpgjhpjm
@Kpgjhpjm: The review's already underway. At this point, you may as well let it run its course. Even if the article fails, you and other editors of the article will get some good feedback on what work still needs to be done to bring it up to GA standards. It's not like there's a penalty for failing GA reviews. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Seraphimblade:-you want me to leave it as it is.-Kpgjhpjm
Bigger problem - all 12 May: K committed to doing a review of a GA nomination for Tin and now wants to back out ("my son accidentally..."); K also committed to doing a review of a GA nomination for 1982 Formula One World Championship but wants to back out of that, too ("my son accidentaly (sic) started it"); AND, also today, K proposed 2010 LifeLock.com 400 for a Good Article review. Given K's past history of recently becoming an editor, and only very minor edits on articles, this is suspicious. David notMD (talk) 19:51, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Kpgjhpjm: have you changed your password? If your son has been using your account it means it's compromised, and that could lead to the account being blocked, simply because each account must only be used by one individual. --bonadea contributions talk 07:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
@Bonadea:-yes I have changed my password.-Kpgjhpjm.Please let us end this discussion.I have negotiated with the nominator-Zwerg Nase and promise this will never happen again.

Hello I am fairly new, I have a wiki page for my father terence hogan, and really could do with help, it has been quite a bad day

My page is for Terence Hogan. I wanted to upload pics which I did through wikimedia commons, I was soon deleted, blocked, vandalism was mentioned and just felt terribly upset and stupid I guess. I do not know where I stand now. One comment in particular was nasty re my job. Most of all my photos are on google images since I wrote and article about my father for the press and they are in that article. As I would only now use the photos public domain may I use them and how? I know people care about others on here, especially the inexperienced like me, but I was not expecting someone to have a dig at me personally. How can I get out of this mess if you could help I would be terribly grateful kareenzaKareenza (talk) 00:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Kareenza: I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. Wikimedia Commons is run independently of Wikipedia, so we don't really have any say in what goes on over there. It looks like you were briefly blocked, but you're unblocked now. The administrators probably misinterpreted your edits as vandalism. Unfortunately, it does happen sometimes, especially when you're still trying to learn how to edit. From looking at your Commons talk page, it looks like someone raised the question of who owns the rights to distribute the photographs. This could happen because you weren't explicit enough when filling out the licensing information, leaving enough room for doubt. If you continue to have problems at Commons, you could ask for assistance at the Commons help desk. They'd probably be able to help you better than us. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@NingaRobotPirate: Message text. Kareenza (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)This was very kind of you. I feel like giving up. My page has been edited and now there is more queries on it after seven years of having it. I dont know where the licensing form is? This is all because a tv companyy wants to make a series about crime and the affect on the children. It meant a lot to me to have this page and then I have been stupid but it is very complex for me. I work on the health side of my newspaper and nothing to do with politics so I try to write for readers who need health advice and to get a sarcastic comment just was upsetting, I have done as you suggested and asked at the help desk.....thank you for being so sweet kareenzaKareenza (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Kareenza: Yeah, Wikipedia can be pretty confusing at times. It gets easier, though. Most stuff on Wikipedia (and Commons) is free-form, which means that you can edit it like a text file. So, the licensing information should be easily editable from the file itself. Since Wikipedia articles are collaboratively written, they're in a constant state of flux. As people discover articles, sometimes they highlight issues or make what they believe to be improvements. It's an awkward process, but it works. As far as that talk page conversation goes, the other editor might have thought he was just joking around with you and not realized it was hurtful. But, yeah, rude comments and sarcasm can turn away new editors, and we try to discourage this. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Geobox River in foreign languages

Hi, Below is the template used for the Mandarin version of Wikipedia. I notice that the Mandarin version uses the English version of templates, but the have managed to adapt the English template to allow for publication in Mandarin! It would be very useful if one could do the same for the Irish Gaelic version of Wikipedia ( https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%ADomhleathanach), given that it lacks many templates. Please help!Ériugena (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

The following is the Mandarin version of the Thames infobox! {{Geobox|River}}

Hello @Ériugena:, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you need additional templates in ga-Wiki, it is probably better to ask a template editor in the Irish Gaelic Wiki itself. All language-specific Wiki projects are autonomous with separate administrations and maintenance. The Teahouse here and most of its editors can only help with general questions related to the English Wikipedia. If you need technical information about English template parameters and syntax though, you could ask at the template's specific talkpage or contact one of its regular editors. Hope this helps a bit. By the way, please do not ask the same question twice, editors here are volunteers and will (usually) answer your questions in due time. Thank you for your consideration. GermanJoe (talk) 12:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

How to solve the problem inorder to move my page from talk to article?.

My page in the talk namespace cannot be moved to the main article namespace due to the following error "You cannot move a page to this location because the new title has been protected from creation". I wanted your help in removing this protection and moving my page to the article namespace. What is the approach to remove this protection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talkcontribs) 09:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sarbadigital: welcome to the Teahouse. The article title Kankana Banerjee was recently protected from creation because multiple attempts had been made to add a promotional article at Kankana banerjee, which is also create protected. Wikipedia cannot be used for advertising and promotion. The current draft at Draft:Kankana Banerjee is also heavily promotional and as such inappropriate for a Wikipedia article, so before you request for it to be moved or submit it for review by placing {{subst:submit}} on the page you should remove all wording that's only there to praise the subject (or someone/something else), such as "illustrious lineage". You also need to remove irrelevant details such as the professions of her children (especially as that info has no source!), or personal reflections such as her getting married at a "tender age", or "unfortunately" becoming widowed. Wikipedia doesn't make such value judgments. By the way, I moved the text back to Draft mainspace, because it does not belong on the article talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 09:24, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Another important point: if you have any kind of affiliation with the subject, such as her being a client of your marketing firm, you must comply with WP:COI and in particular WP:PAID. --bonadea contributions talk 09:27, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks bonadea for your useful insights. I will try to make the necessary changes before any request to review. However, I would like to refer to your last point about my affiliation with the subject that I know Ms Kankana Banerjee personally and attended couple of her events earlier. I decided to list her in Wikipedia as a token of thanks to her humbleness and consideration towards me on a personal note. Digital marketing is a profession for me though I have never written any article on wikipedia for money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talkcontribs) 10:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

That, I'm afraid, Sarbadigital, is what will make it especially difficult for you to write this article. Your acquaintance with her and your appreciation for her are both likely to make it hard for you to write in a sufficiently neutral way. In your draft, the "Career" section in particular is full of evaluative language (about both Banerjee, and other people and institutions mentioned), which should never appear in any Wikipedia article unless it is directly quoted from a reliably-published independent source. Examples are " Her skills and repertoire has been a highlight", "prominent", "admired", "enthralled", "notable", "treated to", "melodious renditions". All these are not reporting the facts, but subtly telling the reader how to regard the subject. Please see WP:NPOV, WP:COI and WP:PEACOCK. --ColinFine (talk) 11:47, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks ColinFine for your help. I have made the changes and removed almost every possible words that can reflect as a promotion. Request to evaluate once again and let me know what else to address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talkcontribs) 12:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Sarbadigital I have removed a number of additional promotional adjectives and done some cleanup (for example, this edit). Please note that "Late" is not a title that should be placed befor a name in a Wikipedia article. Please note that Wikipedia articles should never be cited as sources in other Wikipedia articles. In several places you had cited Wikipedia articles where it seems you merely needed a wiki-link. Bare inline external links should not be used as sources. Many statements still require citation. This is not yet ready for main space. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I lock an article?

Hi guys i'm a newbie here. How do I lock the article easily? SoonSoo90 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, SoonSoo90, and welcome to the Teahouse. The simple answer is that you don't. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and almost all of it is open to be edited by anybody. Page protection can only be applied by administrators (though anybody can request it), and it is normally only done for a limited period, when a page has a high incidence of vandalism.
Why are you wanting to lock something? If it is an article you are talking about, then nobody is permitted to act as if they owned it. Even if you created the article, it is not yours to control. If you are talking about a page in your user space (your user page, or a sandbox, though not your User Talk page, which is specifically for people to talk to you) then there is a convention that nobody else will edit it without a good reason, but admins will still not protect them unless there is a lot of vandalism there. --ColinFine (talk) 12:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, SoonSoo90. Just to add one thing to ColinFine's helpful answer, the one time you can legitimately request other editors not to edit an article is when you are actively working on it. Its ok to do this for an hour or so, and you tell other editors you are busy on it by placing {{Under construction}} at the top of the article. Simply paste on what I've shown and preview the page. Whilst this in no way locks an article, courteous editors will stay away for a while (unless its a rapidly developing event), but don't forget to remove it again as soon as you've finished. Hope this helps, and 'Welcome' to Wikipedia. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello, SoonSoo90. When an editor is actively in the process of editing an article {{inuse}} requests (but does not require) other editors to refrain from editing the article. inuse should only remain in place for a few hours, unlike {{underconstruction}} which may remain for a few days, and invites careful collaboration. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

How to automatically archive my talk page

User Talk:Deisenbe It’s too long. I could archive it manually, but isn’t there a script that does this automatically, or semi-automatically? Thanks. deisenbe (talk) 15:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse. The "Archiving bots" section at the bottom of Template:Warchivenav gives bots and scripts to automatically archive your talk page. JTP (talkcontribs) 15:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately I am so ignorant that I do not know how to follow the instructions there. There are apparently four archive bots there and I do not understand which one I should use. I tried the first one and so far as I couLd tell nothing happened. (I have erased what I did.) The third one loooked promising, User:HBC Archive Indexerbot, but the first instruction is
  • “First create a destination page (the one you want the index to be written to)”. I know how to create a page, but what page should I create?
  • “<mask> is used to describe how to find your archives, see below for details.” I cannot figure this one out either. “Below” says “Your mask is simply the path of your archives with the numbers replaced with <#>.“ But I don’t know what the path is.
  • “<zeros> is the number of leading 0s in your archive title, "Archive 01" would be 1 leading zero, "Archive 1" is 0 leading zeros.” I don’t know how to answer this either.
If this is a simple task for someone who knows how I wouLd be grateful if you just set it up for me. deisenbe (talk) 11:57, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Deisenbe: See Help:Archiving a talk page#Automated archival. It has complete code you can copy directly to your talk page if the archiving parameters are OK to you. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, I still had to puzzle over it, but got it going. deisenbe (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

How do i add a picture?

I've read some help pages but it seems too complicated, I want to add a picture of a person to his wikipedia page, how do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterMahfouz (talk contribs) 09:30, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Do you have a particular picture you want to add? If you do, where is it at present? Maproom (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
You can upload your picture by clicking edit source from the article, then click insert and click and click media and you will see media settings and click upload your picture and add it to your article. Hope it will work! SoonSoo90 (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
If the file you want to upload is available under a free license, it should be uploaded to our free media repository, the Commons. You do not need any special permissions to upload there, and you can use the same username and password you use here. If it is not available under a free license, it should be requested using the Files for Upload process, which does not require any special permissions.
Informtion on how to actually add the image to an article is at Help:Pictures Beeblebrox (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

HOW TO IMPROVE ON DRAFT

Hello? How do i improve on the page i started Jemila abdul (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Ayo Omidiran (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Jemila abdul, you need to find and cite additional reliable sources to help establish the notability of Ayo Omidiran. For example, It seems from the draft that Ayo Omidiran is a member of the legislature, but there doesn't seem to be a clear statement or a citation showing this. That would be very helpful. Additional news stories discussing Omidiran in some detail would also help. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 14:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC) @Jemila abdul: DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks alot I will work on it.Jemila abdul (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I am a new member

Hi I am Pankaj Verma a new member and i am loving to make web a organized place. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankaj verma 23 (talkcontribs) 16:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Pankaj verma 23! Welcome. We're glad to have you! – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 17:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Pankaj verma 23 and welcome to the Teahouse. Did you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia, or any area of using or especially editing Wikipedia that you are having problems with? DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

SuperBattery Article template?

While researching different types of batteries I came across the UltraBattery article in the List of battery types I find the UltraBattery article rather out of place in a collection of batteries that aren't brands (they aren't talking about Duracell or something) Reading the article it seems pretty in depth but extremely biased and I almost feel like its an advertisement or something. Would it be appropriate to add that template? In addition should UltraBattery be removed from the List of batteries page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Learncraft (talkcontribs) 01:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Good catch, Learncraft. I'm amazed this clever advertisement in the form of an overly detailed technical brief (rather than a commercial product with registered trademarks and com domain name) has survived in this state for so long. Years. A triumph for some PR flak or overly enthusiastic tech editors. Good faith editing? Good grief. Plain commercial facts are plainly stated on ultrabattery.com (nowhere named or linked in article). "The UltraBattery® is manufactured by East Penn Manufacturing, a privately-held company that operates the world’s largest single-site, lead-acid battery manufacturing facility in the industry, headquartered in Lyon Station, PA" http://ultrabattery.com/recycling/quality-manufacturing/ - and just as carefully obscured in WP article.
You have a good eye. Do you know batteries? Are there other batteries of this type? (making it a commercial brand and not a unique technical type, as you saw claimed on list of battery types page). That knowledge would greatly help.
One comment on Talk page on NPOV. Picking the top 3 or 4 most critical content issues for a consolidated multiple issues message box template needs to be carefully considered, best left to a consensus of more experienced editors, Learncraft. Watch and learn your craft, indeed, and pipe in with your observations after we get some feedback.
I would suggest editors look at: 1) advertisement, 2) NPOV, 3) third-party (this is a complicated government/multi-country, multi-company consortium - examine all links & cited sources with all financially linked entities in mind at once). Maybe: 4) length &/or technical, and possibly primary sources and COI. Or toss in an ambox for a custom message to address total non-disclosure of thoroughly commercial nature of trademarked term. This glaring omission is something that can not be ignored, and it belongs in lead, official site template, etc. Lots to choose from for a single multi-issue message box here: WP:TC
Be happy to write up draft for corresponding Talk page section myself, as I have done some digging already and would benefit from the learning experience, but seeking input here first. -- Paulscrawl (talk) 09:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
If I understand it correctly it's basically a lead-acid battery with a carbon electrode and a lead electrode, the lead one allows for deeper cycles while the carbon one allows for higher energy output. It doesn't really have a "type" so much as a hybrid. If anything it would go in the batteries by application.
Looking further it is also mentioned in the Energy storage article right under supercapacitor. Again, its rather out of place due to its advert-esque wording.-- Learncraft (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit semi protected

"please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the "edit semi-protected" template"

How can l do the above?

@Nemrud91: Welcome to the Teahouse, Nemrud91! It's a pleasure to see you here and looking for answers. I think you are referring to this answer to your request, but you can let me know if I'm missing the source of your question. You can establish a consensus (here's a link to the relevant Wikipedia help page on consensus) by asking other editors what they think about your proposal. For example, you can open a new section on the relevant article talk page and ask editors to give their opinions about the issue. Semi-protection is usually only granted to an article that is experiencing repeated vandalism or disruptive editing and is usually not just applied to pages without consensus or a valid reason for immediate protection (for example, constant vandalism). Even then, the application of semi-protection is still up to the discretion of an administrator. Let me know if you have any further questions or if you need something to be explained better!  :) Thanks! - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page (chat page , contribs) 20:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

My personal Biography

Can you tell me the way that I can set up my biography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.118.240.8 (talk) 21:54, 14 May 2018‎

You should not write an autobiography on Wikipedia. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 21:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Confused at "getting consensus"

Edited a page to make a more thorough and remove opinons (sentences like "some have" and such). I have no doubt that my edit was more thorough detailed, accurate, and would generally be supported by the wikipedia community. However, my changes were undone and the message left " (please get consensus for these very major changes) " How do I get consensus? Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusAquila99 (talkcontribs) 00:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, MarcusAquila99, and welcome to the Teahouse. You go to the Talk page of the article in question, say what changes you want made and why they are improvements. Then see if others agree or disagree with you. You can read more about it here: Wikipedia:Consensus and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 00:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Treatment of autism and Legos

Is there any medical citations in the treatment of autism, or at least the management of the illness, and autism? I believe that it can pose a thinking challenge that with some supervision allows the autistic children to feel better about themselves and important for creating. Sometimes these creations are exact copies and sometimes they are actually improved if you listen with patience. My nephew achieved this last summer in a very chaotic environment as his family was visiting mine. I, myself, may have some autistic behaviors at times... but if they are I've learned to live with it and believe in helping those less fortunate. I plan on getting him some more Lego sets in the near future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:4E80:2B82:3D0D:4690:3D90:51D2 (talk) 08:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a forum to ask questions about editing or using Wikipedia. If you are asking about the Autism article, you should ask at Talk:Autism. Please note that we cannot give medical advice. 331dot (talk) 08:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

How to submit Article for Approval

Hey There I am MR.Shah and i am a Blogger and website Developer.. Wikipedia is a Best sours of Traffic as well as Rankings. I have tried many times to submit ma Articles, but my articles was not approved.

If you will Put some Light of Knowledge on this Particulate Thing that HOW TO POST OR SUBMIT ARTICLES TO WIKIPEDIA

Thanks MR.Shah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ragavgupta (talkcontribs) 09:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ragavgupta. If your aim in seeking to create a Wikipedia article is to drive traffic to your website, then I am afraid that you have misunderstood Wikipedia's purpose and will not be successful. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
To avoid you wasting your time, not only does Wikipedia not permit purely promotional articles, but all links from Wikipedia have the rel=nofollow attribute, and therefore will not contribute to search engine rankings. I suggest you look elsewhere for traffic sources. Richard0612 10:17, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Article for deletion that wasn't deleted?

Hello, I'm a reviewer and I was looking over List of startups in Florida and didn't see any real significance for the page. I was going to mark it for deletion, however upon looking at the history I noticed a prior AfD referencing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PikMyKid. The AfD recommendation was delete; said AfD was removed, yet the article remains and I didn't know if that meant there was still an ongoing discussion or if it should in fact be deleted. Can an administrator look at it perhaps and take the appropriate action? Thanks! Snickers2686 (talk) 03:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Snickers2686. The AfD debate was about an article called "PikMyKid". That article was deleted and its entry was properly removed from List of startups in Florida. If you want the list article to be deleted, you will have to nominate it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
@Snickers2686: Click "prev" at an edit in the page history to see what the edit did: [3]. It only removed the link brackets from PikMyKid, and mentioned Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PikMyKid in the edit summary as the reason. The unlinked table entry for PikMyKid was removed from the list two edits later. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: @Cullen328: Appreciate the feedback! Snickers2686 (talk) 12:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Asking Help

Hi. Thank you for welcoming me to Teahouse. Can I ask for help because I want to have the article Jameson Blake but theres so much restriction. Can I ask you to allow me to edit the said article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugswood (talkcontribs) 15:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

No evidence of notability. 10Eleventeen 15:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, Bugswood, and welcome to the Teahouse. The article Jameson Blake is currently a redirect to to Pinoy Big Brother: 737 This was done after a community discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jameson Blake (2nd nomination), on the grounds that Blake is not notable. It has also been semi-protected so that only auto-confirmed users can edit it. You will be auto-confirmed in just a few days. In the meantime, I strongly suggest that you open a discussion at Talk:Jameson Blake on whether to change the redirect back to an article. Be prepared to show clearly how Blake meets WP:NACTOR, WP:GNG or in some other way is notable, as Wikipedia uses that term. The burden will be on you to demonstrate this. Be prepared to cite specific sources in support of your arguments. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Septrillion, Bugswood is free to present additional evidence of the notability of Blake, if s/he can. It is helpful to let Bugswood know where and how to do this, in my view. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Hello and welcome, Bugswood. I assume you mean you want to create an article for Jameson Blake, currently a redirect to Pinoy Big Brother: 737. I don't know why, he's not mentioned in that article.
First, read WP:General notability guideline. If you conclude that, yes, you have such sources, then move on to WP:Your first article. If you conclude that such sources does not exist (at least not yet), then give up for now, the article will not survive on WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
He's not completely absent in sources [4][5][6] (I'm not saying these are enough). If it helps, per WP:NOTENG, reliable sources don't have to be in english, though it is preferred. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
It appears that the redirect was done because Blake had appeared on that show. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi he is now not part of that show. He was just there before because its a reality show. Now he is already an actor with various movies, tv shows, and a performer. Bugswood(talk) 14:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Then it's one of those redirects I really dislike, it gives the reader nothing. Delete it, I say. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
HiGråbergs Gråa Sång What do you mean delete. What should I delete? Bugswood(talk) 14:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Bugswood, sorry, that was a bit unclear. I think the redirect should be deleted, but this was not directed at you, it's not something you should do. Anyway, if you manage to make it an article again, it's a moot point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
HiGråbergs Gråa Sång As much as I want to make a new article but I can't. I hope theres someone who can really help me.Bugswood(talk) 15:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
DESiegel, If I come to the conclusion that this article has a fair shot at survival, is there some reason I shouldn't WP:BOLD and go for it? I've seen sources newer than Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jameson Blake (2nd nomination). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I don't see any reason at all not to edit if you think there is a reasonable chance of establishing Blake's notability. Nor would I have any objection to it being established. The version that existed prior to the redir did not look to me as if it established notability clearly, but I didn't follow all the sources, and I am not highly experienced in that area anyway. Given the previous AfD, some might prefer to open a talk page discussion first, but that is not at all required, as I see it. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 08:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC) @Gråbergs Gråa Sång:

Hi mates I just opened a discussion at Talk:Jameson Blake to prove his notability.Gråbergs Gråa Sång I dont want to give up because he's name must be in wikipedia. Please help me guys. Bugswood(talk) 14:39, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Bugswood, you are taking the right course in my view by discussing and offering sources on the article talk page. Please be sure that the sources you offer are 1) independent of Blake; 2) reliabel; and, 3) Discuss Blake in some detail, or 3A) indicate that he has a truly significant role in a particular project. The reputation and quality of the sources may matter. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 08:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Page creation

I would like to create a page for a new entertainment company in Budapest. I have several references from acknowledged newspapers and magazines. How should I start? TA, Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indeb15 (talkcontribs) 15:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

hello, Indeb15, and welcome to the Teahouse. Here are some steps which, if followed, often give good results. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • First, review our guideline on notability, our policy on Verifiability, and our specific guideline on the notability of businesses. Consider whether your subject clearly meets the standards listed there.
  • Second, read how to create Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
  • Third, If you have any connection or affiliation with the subject, disclose it in accordance with our guideline on Conflict of interest. If you have been or expect to be paid for making edits, or are making them as part of your job, disclose this according to the strict rules of the Paid-contribution disclosure. This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
  • Fourth, gather sources. You want independent, professionally published, reliable sources with each discussing the subject in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)
  • Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a conflict of interest it is essential.
  • Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed.
  • Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request at the Teahouse or the help desk and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.
Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

A mess-up with named refs

I just edited the Israel Defense Forces Orchestra article to update it a bit and move the refs to the bottom so they don't clutter up the article's source code or however it's called.

Problem is, I messed it up somehow (as can be seen in the article). Could any of you please fix it and (if not obvious) tell me why the fix works, so I know how to do this sort of thing from now on? Professor Proof (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, thanks for being there for people who need your help! I'd have a hard time doing this sort of thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Professor Proof (talkcontribs) 12:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

  Fixed You did almost everything correct, you just forgot the |refs= field in the reflist template. - X201 (talk) 12:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually that was by chance, I didn't know template:reflist had parameters. Should've checked that in retrospect. I also understand now why what I did had that effect (I just created those 6 references again). Thank you, again! Professor Proof (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Built a page but it isn't live...

Hi I build a page, clicked the publish button, but it isn't showing. How can I get it live? TIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firebird75 (talkcontribs) 03:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

What is the name of the page? 10Eleventeen 04:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Welcome to the Teahouse, Firebird75. I assume that you are talking about User:Firebird75/sandbox. You have neither submitted this draft article for review at Articles for Creation, nor moved it to encyclopedia main space yourself. Please do not take either action yet. Your draft article is an unreferenced biography of a living person, which is contrary to policy. Your draft fails to provide evidence that this person meets our notability guideline for people. Please read Your first article and be sure that any article you write complies with the policies and guidelines described there. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
By the way, are you Steve Hughes? Autobiographies are not forbidden, but they are strongly discouraged in Wikipedia, and there are procedures that must be followed if that is the case - read through the instructions at Wikipedia:Autobiography. --Gronk Oz (talk) 08:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
To clarify for other editors, Firebird75 replied on my Talk page confirming that he/she is not Steve Hughes so the article is not autobiographical.--Gronk Oz (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Help with autobiography

can someone help me create an Artist bio and article about myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDBAN$$$ (talkcontribs) 15:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

First, see WP:AUTOBIO. ー「宜しく 」 クロノ  カム  15:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, TDBAN$$$. No disrespect intended, but if you want assistance in that regard, you'd better explain to us why you are Notable enough (by Wikipedia's standards) for anyone to bother adding you to this encyclopaedia. If you can provide some links to a range of independent, reliable sources that that have taken the trouble to write about you in depth, then you might stand some chance. National media outlets, books, newspapers will do. Ignore blogs, Facebook posts, YouTube and all self-published sources. We have no interest in those whatsoever. Looking forward to hearing from you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

How to resubmit after improving my submission?

Hello, On 8 march I submit my first draft "Rollin Motors". On the 9th of March 2018 I received a message from User-Talk that it is declined. I improved the draft and I clicked on "publish changes". 2 month later I still didn't received a answer so I asked the person from "User-Talk" what to do and he wrote that I didn't resubmitted it for review. Please can you tell me how I can "resubmit"? or what my next step should be? Thank you, JeanBast — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeanBast (talkcontribs) 11:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, JeanBast. Welcome to our Teahouse. I'm afraid you got a bit confused by a recent name change to the 'save edits' button. It's now called 'Publish changes', but leads many, many people to think they're actually publishing (i.e. moving) their draft to the main part of the encyclopaedia. Yes, your changes have been published online, but only as a draft, as yet. Look again at the article and you'll see a huge, blue "Resubmit" button which you should use. But hold that mouse click...!
Whilst the article looks interesting, at this stage it's not going to get accepted because it doesn't match the format (style) we expect to see in encyclopaedia articles. With a little more work you should be able to resolve this. You need to fix typos, and your references are a bit of a mess and need to be laid out properly, and you shouldn't use Wikipedia images as references at all. Either show them as pictures to support the text, or omit them entirely. You should use wikilinks to hyperlink names like White Sewing Machine Company, or don't link them and put the links in a 'See also' section. I can't understand why you haven't included as a main reference this online book which has about four or five pages devoted to the Rollin company, and took me 30 seconds to find. (not that I know anything about cars). I bet there are others on Google Books you should search for, too. So do have a read of Wikipedia:Your first article, take a look at Help:Referencing for beginners and look at lots of other articles and compare them with your draft to see the difference in layout, content and spelling etc. I think you have the makings of an interesting article but, just as with a vintage vehicle, it needs a really good polish before you take it out on the road. I've made a couple of tiny tweaks to your draft, and would ask that you ensure the article title you want to use is the one you embolden in the first sentence. That will help the Artcile assessors name it correctly when it's ready to go live. Hoping this helps a bit, and do please remember to sign your name (which is done automatically for you) whenever you add four tildes like this: ~~~~ to the end of your posts, regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
PS: I've just left you a welcome message with a host of useful links on your own Talk page. I see you've just begun The Wikipedia Adventure - I really recommend you work through this to collect all 15 badges. It's a great way to appreciate how Wikipedia works, and in a fun, interactive manner. Nick.  

Hello Nick, thank you for taking your time and all your advices. Maybe I need several weeks to get all done, I am not verry skilful in doing these things. Please don't delete my draft, I really try to get Rollin Motors (only about 20 cars left in the world) on Wikipedia. JeanBast JeanBast (talk) 17:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, JeanBast. Take your time - I think it's worth it. Because your draft does not appear to breach any critical guidelines, no-one will delete it unless it remains unedited for 6 months. After that, any untouched draft is assumed to be abandoned. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

How does one edit an article's introduction (section after the title)?

TIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtmusic (talkcontribs) 17:49, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Since the "lead" (lede) does not have its own "edit" associated with the section, it is inclusive within the article's edit at the top of the page. If you look at the top menu bar, you will see: "Article | Talk" and "Read | Edit | View History". Click on "Edit" and this will allow you to edit the lead section. Hope this helps! Maineartists (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello Wtmusic and welcome to the Teahouse.
There is an option on your Preferences->Gadgets tab under "Appearance" titled Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page. It's turned off by default, but you can turn it on if you wish. I leave it turned off, since it's usually not a problem to simply edit the entire page on those occasions where the top material is what I want to change. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey! Thanks, jmcgnh! I never knew that; and just applied it! Maineartists (talk) 18:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

How to add album covers to an album-related or single-related article without copyright issues

Attempting to add an album cover or single cover to Wikipedia Commons always ends up as a failure (because it's a "copyright violation"). How have others managed to do this? (Botany and Art (talk) 16:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC))

  • @Botany and Art: "Wikipedia Commons" is not a thing, I guess you were trying to upload to Wikimedia Commons, where all images should be free. Any kind of non-free image should be uploaded locally, to the en-Wikipedia rather than Commons (link to do so). (Admittedly this is a weird process)
Even there, to make it stick, you need to already have a Wikipedia article about the subject (per WP:NFCC #7), and you need to upload it in low resolution (NFCC #3). Additionally, for cover art, see WP:NFCI, bullet point number 1 and its footnote - it is only admissible for the article about the album/single, or if the cover itself is an object of discussion in the article. TigraanClick here to contact me 17:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Adding to what Tigraan says, Botany and Art: I can't find any advice specifically for covers, but see WP:Logos for how to upload and use logos (the issues are similar, but not identical). Also see the templates {{Non-free album cover}} and {{Non-free use rationale album cover}}. --ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The easiest way is to use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. It covers this exact situation. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 20:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

卵を産むの

何匹のフクロウが卵を産むのが好きですか? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YodogawaKamlyn (talkcontribs) 21:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Please speak English on the English Wikipedia. 10Eleventeen 22:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)