Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 July 5

These doc pages are part of the {{they}}-series of templates (full list here) that specify the proper pronoun for a given user based on their WP:Preferences; example: {{they|Bishonen}} → she. Each of these individual template /doc pages are almost identical, except for the usage line showing the template name, and a line of explanation of the results of the template, which looks like this (examples from {{Them/doc}}, and {{They are/doc}} ):

{{them}}: This template will expand to one of "him", "her" or "them" depending on what the specified user has set in their preferences.
{{they are}}: This template will expand to one of "he is", "she is" or "they are" depending on what the specified user has set in their preferences.

All the others have similar lines. Documentation for all of these templates is now handled by a single, template doc-generating template, namely, {{They/doc}}. The individual doc pages are no longer needed, and should be removed.

Note: there are one or two in the full list, such as {{they verb}}, that have special needs and therefore are not included here for deletion.

The template doc Talk pages are all redirects, and probably they should be retargeted to Template talk:They. Mathglot (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying doc page creators: @Jonesey95, Locke Cole, GKFX, Crazytales, Nardog, CX Zoom, HOTmess, Od Mishehu, Jc86035, and NE Ent:. Mathglot (talk) 23:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all /doc pages as not in use and not needed. They don't offer any value. Gonnym (talk) 12:08, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Blink

Template:Blink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template has been deleted multiple times. The creator removed a speedy deletion tag, so rather than get in a dispute, here's a TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The previous, unrelated version of this template was deleted because it didn't work (it used the actual blink tag, which has been deprecated for around twenty years). There was not a consensus to forbid any template from ever existing on the English Wikipedia with the pagename blink, although if it would make you happy, I could rename this to {{blink2}} so that it isn't a "recreation". jp×g 🗯️ 18:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JPxG, what do you want this gross thing for? Folly Mox (talk) 23:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's an article about the blink element, whose primary illustration is rendered with this template, which makes text blink. There is also a section about the deprecated blink and marquee tags at HTML element. It's obvious that the template is not appropriate to randomly be used for emphasis in article text, which is why there's a bold exclamation-pointed sentence on the /doc page telling you not to use it this way. Indeed, we have lots of content that would be inappropriate to put in random articles, like File:Communist Hammer and Sickle Star Flag.svg or File:Flag of the Ku Klux Klan.svg (which are illegal to display in some countries). The <blink> tag was quite bad, but hopefully we can agree it was less bad than the Khmer Rouge, whose insigna we display in their article; I think we can similarly depict a <blink> tag in the articles about <blink> tags, or deprecated HTML tags more broadly.

It's true that it would be in theory possible to delete the template, and replace its invocations entirely with inline formatting on the two articles where it's in use -- but that inline formatting would still require TemplateStyles, so it would still require a stylesheet to be located somewhere. The idea of attaching a /styles.css subpage to a mainspace article, and then invoking that stylesheet from a different mainspace article (or having two identical .css pages on two different mainspace pages) seems quite obtuse and unorthodox to me, especially if a template for doing this already exists and works fine.

In general, my understanding of the purpose of Wikipedia templates is that they're supposed to allow code to be used on multiple pages, rather than forcing people to manually copypasta large complicated blocks of 100% identical code (in this case, <templatestyles src="Blink/styles.css" /><span class="blink-css">{{{1}}}</span> and blink, .blink-css { animation: blink 1s step-end infinite; } *::@keyframes blink { *:: 67% { opacity: 0 } *::}, and additionally a content-model change to enable the second to be loaded from a separate page because it can't be styled inline with MediaWiki). jp×g 🗯️ 00:39, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just like with Template:Marquee, you build it and people use it and we end up with horrible (User:Alpine0x37 User:One cookie) GeoCities like pages. Gonnym (talk) 12:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it is reasonable for us to try to completely prevent people from making silly userpages, that doing so should be an objective of our template system, or that it should take a higher priority than using said system to write articles. jp×g 🗯️ 06:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Chicu cabinet table

Template:Chicu cabinet table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Single-use table of article content with no template parameters, documentation, or categories. Copy into article and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bedroom Community

Template:Bedroom Community (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This navbox lists four of the many recording artists whose work was released by the music label linked from the navbox header. These artists are not connected in the way that is intended for use in navboxes. A category will cover this need, if it exists. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Article card

Template:Article card (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Proposed and discussed in 2018 but never adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cabinet of Bola Tinubu

Template:Cabinet of Bola Tinubu (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:First Cabinet of Muhammadu Buhari (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Second Cabinet of Muhammadu Buhari (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All three were single-use templates. I have substituted them on their respective cabinet articles. These should not have been created as separate templates as it would create a duplicate notes and references section and there didn't appear to be any article size issues for them needed to be transcluded through a separate space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 12:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about their current use but (if I recall correctly) the reason these templates were created were to use them for the page of their specific cabinet and the Cabinet of Nigeria page. Watercheetah99 (talk) 16:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Static column row

Template:Static column row (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions. Created in 2009. The documentation says that it is used by a template that does not exist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:SpokenWikipediaReminder

Template:SpokenWikipediaReminder (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. Appears to have been used just once on an editor's talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nom; I also have no idea what it means for a spoken article to be "incactive" [sic] or "expired". Queen of Hearts ^talk 06:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]