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01:13:15, 24 July 2019 review of draft by JonathanDicko

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Request for most notable sources this article is based on:

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/australia/elana-withnall-283615 https://rocktape.com.au/meet-elana-withnall-heptathlete-and-rugby-7/ https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/ryde-athlete-elana-withnall-wins-gold-for-australia-in-heptathlon/news-story/1f9457fa6a5d8aaa9f1ce030c30fd5ab https://www.starnow.com.au/elanawithnall

JonathanDicko (talk) 01:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JonathanDicko.
  • The Daily Telegraph is the best source: independent, reliable, and containing significant coverage of Withnall.
  • IAAF is independent and reliable, but indiscriminate. It attempts to list stats for every athlete in any IAAF competition. Athletes are presumed notabile if they have competed in one of eight specific IAAF meets, but the IAAF Oceania Athletics Championships is not one of them. (It's also puzzling that the IAAF stats don't reconcile with the newspaper article, but that's a side issue).
  • Rocktape.com is a commercial site rather than an academic or journalistic source. She's a brand ambassador for them, and it's a primary source interview with no independent analysis by the company. It is not an arms length source.
  • Starnow.com is a site where people trying to get work, like Withnall, post their profile. It is not indpendent.
Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of their subject. You've listed one. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

01:52:12, 24 July 2019 review of draft by Supafun33

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I'd like to know what's wrong with the references in my article. Or if there are specific ones that are causing problems and can be removed? Supafun33 (talk) 01:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Supafun33: None of the references have any problem. You need to add in more for clarification. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 03:52, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

05:58:02, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Piperalbrecht

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I am requesting are-review as I have updated a lot of the information and improved the smoothness of the article and its links. Piperalbrecht (talk) 05:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


06:28:02, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Yomego

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Yomego (talk) 06:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


06:28:39, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Lekkala R Reddy

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Hi :CNMall41, You've rejected my submission saying that contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. I am unable to understand why this happen? Didn't you see Kundan Srivastava sources on Google & Google news?

I've contributed the article unintentionally by looking his references without any promotional things there. I wrote what he deserves and stated by reliable sources.

Kundan information is showing by google knowledge panel and the works featured by worldwide media. This is very new comment for me (contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia) ..Without purpose who will contribute? My purpose was simply to contribute to provide knowledge about some good people who have enough works and reliable sources.

Have done some changes. Please help me to improve this article ..if any issues. he has reliable sources, works and all ..so why this article is not eligible to be featured on Wikipedia?

Request for review please.

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 06:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lekkala R Reddy Has been deleted nine times Draft:Kundan Srivastava please stop.Theroadislong (talk) 09:27, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi :Theroadislong, May his article was deleted 9 times before; but it doesn't means his articles is not eligible after some years. As per your last comments deleted articles can't be published forever? I have made changes. Please review once.

Really I am not able to understand, what is the issue with you guys, Why you keep rejecting this article, Kundan Srivastava is a noted human rights activist and working since many years from the young age, you can research as well. Secondly, on which ground article was actually rejected? he has handsome reliable sources of works. I have mentioned the reliable sources, notability (suitable/sufficient sourcing).

We believe that what Wikipedia all about need a notable person. I believe he should be included in Wikipedia directory.

So Please re-review it and do the correct thing.

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 11:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We have done the correct thing. This article has been shoved down the throats of Wikipedia editors so many times that it likely will never be recreated. First, you will need to ask permission for the page to be created. At this point, we are unable to do so as only an administrator has the authority. That is why I left you the link and told you to check the protection log. You will see the name of the administrator and reach out to them directly. If you don't receive a favorable response, you can then ask for it to be overturned at a noticeboard. There is nothing else that Articles For Creation can do for you at this point. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Lekkala R Reddy: I agree with Theroadislong and CNMall41. You have re-created the draft more than ten times already. Please stop. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 03:46, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:08:06, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Lekkala R Reddy

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Have done with some major changes. Please review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lekkala_R_Reddy/sandbox

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 09:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lekkala R Reddy: it has been rejected. Please stop making the same draft. Please look at the section above. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 03:50, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:09:39, 24 July 2019 review of submission by MiLu19

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MiLu19 (talk) 09:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC) I added references, please review again.[reply]

10:09:45, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Ndesai1992

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My article had been rejected. I would like to further understand what I may do to have the issues rectified and publish the article successfully.

Ndesai1992 (talk) 10:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ndesai1992: - it may have been declined, rather than rejected, (the script we use is being a bit buggy), but that's a roughly similar effect to you.
It had no sources, so was immediately unable to be accepted. As well as finding some good sources (reliable, independent (no interviews), secondary), they need to be inline sources (see WP:REFBEGIN) - attached to specific facts not at the bottom. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

11:37:46, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Lekkala R Reddy

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With due respect, I have simply one question for Wikipedia Editors/Administrators

On which ground article was actually rejected? He has now handsome reliable sources of works. I have mentioned the reliable sources, notability (suitable/sufficient sourcing).

Doesn't matter the article was deleted 9 times earlier and the contributor who created are unable to research sources.

How can you stop Kundan Srivastava to be included in Wikipedia directory? Google is showing his biography already https://g.co/kgs/6TLjbg It seems you people are getting paid to consider Wikipedia articles? Isn’t it? I’ve found many people biographies on wikipedia without any reliable sources? Should we go to the supreme power of Wikipedia? I bet if Kundan is not notable for Wikipedia then how some people profiles are having no sources are featured?

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 11:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lekkala R Reddy: - accusing editors of breaking the rules by using their reviewing tools for pay without evidence is against the rules. Please don't do it unless you actually acquire evidence of an AfC reviewer misuing tools in such a way.
I believe google is actually showing those biographical details because they were entered into wikidata (sort a wiki-database) when his photo was uploaded. They don't do anything to demonstrate that he's notable since it's coming from us.
While you can appeal to our "supreme power" if you want, I suspect you'd probably have more luck trying the following route. Ask the Admin who protected against the recreation of the article CactusWriter (on their talk page), if they could consider unsalting. Demonstrate why your draft should pass when others were declined.
Some profiles were made in the earlier days of wikipedia when we didn't vet new articles as closely. If you point them out they may well be nominated for deletion. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

12:15:32, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Sameerbhosle9

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I am trying to get this page published. There was another page earlier of "Shweta Rohira" but it was deleted and hence I am requesting a review of this page. Please send me specific details of modifications if there are any as I am unaware of why the page keeps getting rejected multiple times. Sameerbhosle9 (talk) 12:15, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


13:15:17, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Ras2066

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I have taken the recommendations/suggestions of the Wikipedia editors thus far and have eliminated a lot of the content that could be considered biased and/or promotional. I believe that with these adjustments, the article is suited to be approved a wikipedia article. Can you kindly please advise?

Ras2066 (talk) 13:15, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:50:11, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Chalicelamp

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My draft was rejected by BoothSift. Does this reviewer have final say on the topic? This reviewer said the band The Carpetbaggers is not notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. I just feel certain this is erroneous and I would like a second opinion. This person said their discography was "not very impressive". What does this mean? They did not have enough recordings? There are numerous articles and reviews written about their work, however, nearly all were written prior to our digital age and the references are not available online. I could cite dozens more publications. They are probably best known for their tours with alt-country band, Son Volt. They played Jay Farrar's wedding. They opened for The Replacements, Young Fresh Fellows, Mojo Nixon, Alejandro Escovedo, Dick Dale, Alison Kraus, The Honeydogs, Jonathan Richman, and more. I'll keep working on the article as I wait to hear back. Any suggestions are welcome. Thank you. --Chalicelamp (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2019 (UTC)ChaliceLamp Chalicelamp (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Request on 15:50:47, 24 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Bethany m m

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Hi, I submitted a page for company EnviroVent but it has been rejected. If I know which sections were not sufficient etc I can edit, please can you advise?

Bethany m m (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bethany m m: - the company can't show notability by sourcing itself (nor prove any controversial/disputable fact). The other sources are also generally non-independent/not reliable/don't discuss the actual company itself in sufficient detail.
It's promo because it's a glowingly positive piece about how good the products are, all the awards won, its greeness, its morality and rather irrelevant accreditations. Remove unneeded content and make it so that if I looked elsewhere on the web, I'd get a balanced summary. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:53:25, 24 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Angel7112114

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Hello I need help on understanding why my article was declined, and how i can get help with getting it created. My draft is from a neutral standpoint and I belive it is a worthy subject, they were on national tv, national and international magazine publications as well as working with 2Pacs producer. I have urls and links for refencing. Also linked in interviews from The Hoosier Times newspaper. Please help thank you Angel7112114 (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, it looks like the article is refbombed, means that it has too many sources (One or two good sources should be enough). 85.199.71.120 (talk) 18:36, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest following the rule of THREE. Nosebagbear (talk)

19:41:18, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Davidsaedi

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Davidsaedi (talk) 19:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The company description, location and services are listed. There is no promotion. We use artificial intelligence to get results. Can someone help us understand any requit=red changes to our boilerplate? Many thanks.

@Davidsaedi: - we aren't a company listing platform. The instructions next to the yellow ! set out what you need to do (click on the blue text which will take you to the relevant pages) Nosebagbear (talk) 19:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20:10:24, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Alan Colby

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It is very notable. It has more sources than many other micronations. Its the first and only micronation in Switzerland, also covered by news, official land registry even shows landplots of this micronation. Wikipedia is made to store and share knowledge. This micronation is a given fact. How can it be not there ? Thanks for checking. Alan Colby (talk) 20:10, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Colby - not one of the sources used in the draft is reliable. Further, the claims in the draft are absurd prima facie. It's fine if "King Emperor Jonas" wants to create a fun little (off-WP) webpage for his fantasy kingdom and his "Imperial Guard", no one here has any problems with that. However, WP hosts articles about real things, not fairy tales. Micronations like the Conch Republic have articles because they've achieved WP:SIGCOV. Further, their articles describe the reality of their status and don't make patently absurd claims. Chetsford (talk) 20:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Actually you are pretty rude. You can talk like this becouse you dont show your real face or name. You akt not really like a wiki admin. I was there on the Land of this Micronation. Its pretty steep but its there i checked in the internet to know more about it. I did not see an article thats why i wanted to tell about it. If you think everything is a fantasy you are very wrong. Flags are hanging water is flowing there. You only read it you dont see it. I guess everything you dont feel as pain if not real for you. How do you explain the Land registry of the Government ? Is it also not reliable? You dont see that the lands are registred really on this „King Jonas“ ? Of course its not a real country its a Micronation. But its real. If you are not happy with it please contact an admin and delete the article. It will come up again from some other people if not from me. I will not contibute anymore then. But thanks...

20:17:37, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Anthony Bilardi

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Anthony Bilardi (talk) 20:17, 24 July 2019 (UTC) Why am i not editing[reply]

20:18:47, 24 July 2019 review of submission by Sangson231

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Sangson231 (talk) 20:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:08:40, 24 July 2019 review of draft by Rmarovich

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Rmarovich (talk) 22:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, in March 2019 I revised and submitted a new draft of an entry for Stefanie Minatee and have yet to hear back whether it has been approved. How do I find out the status of the entry? Thank you, Bob Marovich

Accepted by Nosebagbear. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:39, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:11:02, 24 July 2019 review of submission by WikiWriter135

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Hi there, I am struggling to understand why the page that I created is not being approved. I read the "Notability (sports)" page, but there are tons of Minor League baseball players that have Wikipedia pages. Can someone please further explain why my article does not meet the current standards? All of my sources are credible. Thank you. WikiWriter135 (talk) 22:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:18:40, 24 July 2019 review of submission by IronMan477

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I have created the new 2020s armoured vehicle for the Iran War 2021-2027, it is designed to be a brand new military vehicle Commando 2 series are no longer retired.

IronMan477 (talk) 22:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@IronMan477: - the draft was correctly refused due to the lack of sources at all Nosebagbear (talk) 23:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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