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00:00:24, 18 June 2019 review of draft by S923

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The text in the article was taken directly from the source, it's the only online source from what would qualify as a reputable publisher.

Can you provide guidance on how to change the text, or do you think it's inappropriate to have an article published at all? AngusWOOF (talk)

S923 (talk) 00:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi S923. A single source is almost never enough to establish notability, and thereby justify including an article in the encyclopedia. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of their topic. Sources need not be online. Perhaps if you revisit the topic in a few months or years, more will have been written about the company that you could use as source material. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Let me do some more research and see if I can find additional sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by S923 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:10:42, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Aızhanzhaisanovaaaa

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Good morning I have submitted the Article Rixos President Astana

But you have deleted the article. Would you be so kind to explain me the problem, so that I could change the article. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aızhanzhaisanovaaaa (talk • contribs) 03:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:34:10, 18 June 2019 review of draft by 2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B

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The article was auto-declined based on not meeting notability in the past but now meets notability... according to policy. Why was it declined without being looked over?

2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B (talk) 03:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B, I'm really not sure that it does. I had a look over the sources that have been added since the last deletion discussion, and there's just a lot of recapping his social media activity without any significant coverage of him. For example, if I removed all the references that are just author pages (like this, this and this) and trimmed down the play-by-play of his social media activity, then there's not much left. Nolelover (talk) 16:31, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:10:31, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Amolshinde143

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Amolshinde143 (talk) 06:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Amolshinde143: - there doesn't appear to be anything included to make him notable (in Wikipedia terms). If his source of being notable is as a politician, there are strict rules on inclusion - see politician notability. You also only have 1 source, which is revolvy, which definitely isn't reliable. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

07:41:56, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Falconite007

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Hi, one of my drafts (V Systems) was reviewed by @Redalert2fan. It was declined, and I'm a bit unsure about the reason. Was it deleted because the source from which I quoted in not genuine, or is it because I copy-pasted directly from the source? If its the latter, can you please give an example (from the draft) where I have copy-pasted directly? I tried to use my own words throughout, but I might have missed out in a couple of instances.

Falconite007 (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Falconite007. Both. The draft contained copyright violations or too close paraphrasing of sources, and cited sources that are not reliable. I've removed the copyright problems as well as the sources that are unreliable and the content that was sourced to them or was unsourced. The topic does not appear to be notable. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:11:34, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher

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Please let me know why this page is not accepted....there is no explication and we're still waiting to know. Thanks, best wishes Ifat

Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher (talk) 09:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher: Your draft is still waiting for re-review. The review process is currently very backlogged, so you may have to wait a bit longer. --Ahecht (TALK
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09:50:34, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Pratap.Rohan

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Pratap.Rohan (talk) 09:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pratap.Rohan: Please read the comment on your draft. There are two problems with it. First, you have no citations, which violates Wikipedia's policy on pages about living peopl that requires every statement about living people to be cited to a reliable source. The second problem, which even adding citations cannot fix, is that this person doesn't seem to meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR, which describes what actors are eligible to have Wikipedia articles written about them. --Ahecht (TALK
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09:58:10, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Pratap.Rohan

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Because i want to make certain changes plus want to put some links Pratap.Rohan (talk) 09:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pratap.Rohan: - hi, unless you have some additional major acting roles that weren't included then just adding links won't help. Even a great format won't help you to meet our requirements for actor notability. That could be summarised as significant roles 2+ films or TV series. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

12:04:50, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Jack-cummins

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Jack-cummins (talk) 12:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing a page in my wikipedia sandbox so that I can get it published. But whenever I finish editing it and press save changes, only half of it will show up in the edited project. I don't know why but I need all the writing there so that I can get the page published

@Jack-cummins: - hi there. I've fixed it for you - you forgot to close one of your <ref>...</ref> tags. Have fun editing. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:26:28, 18 June 2019 review of submission by 71.198.50.178

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Tom Hill is notable for successfully coaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sakkari as her career is definitely on the rise.

71.198.50.178 (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The most formal guidance on tennis coach notability is Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Article guidelines, which despite the title is an essay rather than a guideline. According to it, Hill would be notable as a coach if Sakkari entered the WTA rankings top-10. Her peak so far has been number 31. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:36:52, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Makar.91

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Hi! I've wanted to publish this article because I wanted, that Betinvest company have Rich snippets in the Google search results and their competitors are already have the same articles on the wiki — EveryMatrix, Sportradar, Playtech and many others. And, as I looked at competitors, I've written information that it doesn't contain an advertising function. If some parts should be edited — please, suggest it

Thanks

Makar.91 (talk) 14:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Makar.91:, unfortunately that's not what wikipedia is for--it's not an advertising platform and doesn't exist to promote one company over the other. Our standard for what "qualifies" for an article is notability, and having third-party sources discussing the subject of the article in some significance. Right now your only two sources are from the company itself--so not third-party, and a listing without any indication of why the company is important. You'll need to add independent sources discussing Betinvest in order to improve the article. Nolelover (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:29:38, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Jforakei

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my submission of article for "dreizehn XIII" has been denied. I really dont understand why, because there're thousands of other underground bands and projects on wikipedia with much less references and biography and yet those articles were accepted. For instance,this band below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(Finnish_band)

the explanations given to me aren't convincing at all,sorry.

Jforakei (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jforakei:, please have a look at our policy here which lays out what a band needs to do to become notable enough for an article. The first criteria, being "the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician", is what the reviewer says you fail--the sources you've used are not reliable or independent. Articles on blogspot and such are not sufficient. Furthermore, the fact that other similar bands have articles does not really have any influence on this discussion, as your article is judged on its own merits. Nolelover (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:44:09, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Ortho2017

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I think that the title of the draft article should be changed (as per comment received) to

Waqf of Ibshir Mustafa Pasha Complex

How should I do this. Should I delete and start again? Many thanks

Ortho2017 (talk) 15:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ortho2017: Do not delete and start over. See WP:MOVE for how to move a page to a new name. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16:28:28, 18 June 2019 review of draft by 2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968

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It’s been 2 months since I waited for my article to be submitted but the film releases in Japan in 1 month.

2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968 (talk) 16:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968, your article has been reviewed and declined because there are insufficient reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Please add more of those kinds of sources. Perhaps more sources will publish about the movie closer to release? Nolelover (talk) 20:06, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

18:01:44, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Falconite007

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Hello, a draft that I had submitted after this one got reviewed. Did I make a mistake in submitting this one, or is no particular order followed while reviewing drafts?

Falconite007 (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Falconite007, you made no mistake--all the submissions are put into a large category that reviewers can go through, so there is no order to what is reviewed first. Nolelover (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:02:50, 18 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by 90210grl

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Hi. I am writing about my draft article, "N2 Publishing." I received notice that my submission was not approved because "Article has been deleted several times between 2012-2015."

Does that mean there can never be an article on this topic? A lot has changed since 2015, and I think the article and the sources reflect relevant media coverage warranting this article's inclusion.

I would appreciate any feedback so I know how to proceed.

Thank you.90210grl (talk) 18:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


90210grl (talk) 18:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@90210grl: Being deleted before isn't an automatic disqualifier. The editor reviewing the draft probably meant to list that as a comment, not the entire decline reason. The decline reason should've been:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

--Ahecht (TALK
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Thank you for your explanation, 90210grl (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:10:05, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Mizpat

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Hello. I am experienced in editing/copyediting and in WordPress website building, but I am new to Wikipedia article creation, so I am using the Visual Editor and I have some questions.

FYI: I am creating this article as a favor for a former professor and friend, Refugio I Rochin, which I have disclosed.

FYI: I posted this query on my Talk page 4 days ago but haven't seen a response.

FYI: I don't really understand the purpose or workings of the Talk page or the User page for my account.

Q1: I clicked the link Submit your draft for review! and I see it in the page called Category: AfC submissions by date/13 June 2019, but the warning box titled "Draft article not currently submitted for review" is still there. How and when does that warning box go away?

Q2: In the References section is a warning message in red: "Check date values in: |date= (help)." I skimmed the Help page but can't tell what's wrong with the date in the reference. It's similar to all other dates in all other references in the list. Can you identify the problem and how to fix it?

Q3: How and where do I find comments/edits/questions by other WP editors on this article? I've signed up for email notifications and the article is on my Watchlist, but is there anywhere else I can check? Will they show up on this Talk page?

Thank you, Mizpat (talk) 19:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mizpat: You need to click the blue box which says "Submit your draft for review!" Theroadislong (talk) 19:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:24:59, 18 June 2019 review of submission by RyanNewman20

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Hi, I apologize for what I'm guessing is a rookie mistake, but could you help me understand what I need to do to get this submission approved? I believe I have read through the common mistakes/auto information/most copied and pasted answers to this, but I need a little help. Please tell me what I should do, thank you in advance. Ryan N

RyanNewman20 (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Your draft has none. Editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage on the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)Hi RyanNewman20, your submission was rejected because there doesn't appear to be any indication that this specific metric is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. In general, subjects are notable when there is significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. What you have here looks more like a dictionary entry, or something that is more suited to a wiki about fantasy sports, and note that the sources you have are not independent, since it appears that you, the creator of the term, wrote them. Hope this helps. Nolelover (talk) 19:40, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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