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01:00, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Sunuraju

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i would add drafts of paksitan dramas include gentleman and Pagal Khana Sunuraju (talk) 01:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Courtesy link: Draft:Gentleman (Pakistani TV series) (I think)
Did you have a question, @Sunuraju? StartGrammarTime (talk) 15:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
because i thoughts add paksitani dramas for knowelgede and i was unaware there was sockpuppert created drafts, i had grammar issues Sunuraju (talk) 08:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

01:50, 11 November 2024 review of submission by MikeRaimundo

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Hello, I recently started editing and creating Wikipedia articles, but I'm having difficulty getting them approved. Despite my efforts to follow the guidelines, my submissions are often flagged for sounding too promotional, even though I’ve focused on presenting factual, sometimes critical, information. My articles cover sustainable fashion brands, as that is my interest. Could you provide guidance on how I might adjust my approach to better align with Wikipedia’s standards? MikeRaimundo (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @MikeRaimundo. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.
To answer you specifically, the steps are:
  1. . Find several sources about a subject, each of which meets the triple criteria in WP:42
  2. . If you can't find at least three such, give up and choose a different subject.
  3. . Forget everything you know about the subject, and write a neutral summary of what those sources say.
ColinFine (talk) 12:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

02:13, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Vany1953

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On this date an article on Pach Chhoeun was deleted, maybe Help desk can reply with information. I'm writing to find out why. If it is a G8 reference link that may have been deleted which one? It can be fixed, perhaps a web site changed a link target. ALL information in the article has been carefully verified and referenced.

I'm asking for the the article to be re-posted and un-deleted to improve accuracy of the content. Many hours and months over last year spent to compose this historical document just to have it deleted unexpectedly for an unknown specific reason. Pach Chhoeun's life has historical interest for Cambodian culture and history.

18:38, 9 July 2024 Liz talk contribs deleted page Draft:Pach Chhoeun (G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page) (thank) Vany1953 (talk) 03:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC) Vany1953 (talk) 02:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vany1953: what seems to have happened is that back in March you resubmitted this draft, and it was looked at by a couple of reviewers but not actually reviewed. Then, in July, another user copypasted its contents into a new article in the main article space, and replaced the draft with a redirect pointing to that version. However, soon after that it was discovered that the user who did this was a suspected sockpuppet of a blocked user, and the published article was therefore deleted under WP:G5. At that point, the redirect from the earlier draft was pointing to a non-existent target (since the article had been deleted), and was in turn deleted under WP:G8.
I don't see any reason why we couldn't now return the draft to you so that you can continue working on it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vany1953: okay, I have returned the draft to Draft:Pach Chhoeun, and reverted the last few edits, so things should now be back to how they were. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:17, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Chiy828

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I have already tone down the message on my articles, but still blocked by JJMaster Chiy828 (talk) 05:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiy828, a significant part of your draft is not written in English. That is why it was most recently declined. We can only accept drafts in English here, as it is the English Wikipedia. StartGrammarTime (talk) 06:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:21, 11 November 2024 review of submission by 2409:40D5:103D:3101:8000:0:0:0

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I have not submitted this draft/article Anywhere before wikipedia. My Article is being rejected continually for I am not providing the reference of Data. How can i provide reference if I am directly submitting my work on Wikipedia and no where else? 2409:40D5:103D:3101:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 10:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the place to directly submit your work. Wikipedia is interested in what others say about your work, not what you say about it. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about topics that meet our criteria. 331dot (talk) 10:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not host original research. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:34, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Anith Kumar Palisetti

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what are the issues please show me those Anith Kumar Palisetti (talk) 12:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Anith Kumar Palisetti: your sandbox draft at User:Anith Kumar Palisetti/sandbox has been deleted as unambigiously promotional. Wikipedia is not a platform to advertise anything. --bonadea contributions talk 12:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:16, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Chiy828

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I have updated the tone and shouldn't be block , all the language had been changed into English Chiy828 (talk) 16:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:18, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Chiy828

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see below asilvering (talk) 20:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I have updated Chiy828 (talk) 16:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

16:19, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Chiy828

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Updated to change the header Chiy828 (talk) 16:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiy828 Please do not make multiple help desk topics. This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. qcne (talk) 16:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:33, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Canadaguy22

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My draft for this article has been declined, citing insufficient links. However, the links provided are from reputable and reliable sources (e.g. the archives of the Toronto Star newspaper here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada). There's nothing about this draft that isn't backed up, so I'm not clear what the issue is, or what I can do to fix it. Please help. Many thanks, Jeff Canadaguy22 (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Canadaguy22: most of the sources seem to be just photos, and none of the sources are cited inline, as required in articles on living people. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In-line citations are mandatory for biographies; please see the tutorial at WP:INTREFVE. qcne (talk) 21:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:25, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Chiy828

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This is totall unacceptable i have done everything to try to meet your requirment Chiy828 (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is unacceptable is you flooding this page with threads, instead of you keeping your comments to a single thread. Please stop. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:43, 11 November 2024 review of submission by TheSkipperToo

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Hello. How can I find out why my draft submission was rejected so that I can improve it? TheSkipperToo (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, did you see the message left by the reviewer? 331dot (talk) 20:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:25, 11 November 2024 review of submission by Nojyeloot

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Hi guys, honestly a bit stumped why this wasn't approved. Can someone, in layman's terms, point me to where I need to edit this page I created earlier today? All this information is 100% accurate. Nojyeloot (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Nojyeloot. metal-archives is generally regarded as an unreliable source. Do you have alternatives for those two sources? qcne (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:32, 11 November 2024 review of submission by 49.191.173.234

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Hi guys, Paul W recently reviewed and declined my draft submission - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Judd

I wanted to say thanks so much for reviewing the article and for all the helpful guidance. I thought I had fulfilled much of what was needed, but appreciate I'm inexperienced and so your feedback is great.

I think I need a little more help with inserting new citations for some of the assertions made, as I guess I didn't really think the points raised needed citations. For example, with the first '[citation needed] comment - is this referring to where Michael was born? I wasn't sure what sort of citation would be appropriate here?

Thank you again, Angus 

49.191.173.234 (talk) 22:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that 'citation needed' tag is asking what source gives this person's place of birth, or more widely, the information where he was born and raised.
Articles on living people (WP:BLP) have particularly strict referencing requirements. Pretty much every material statement must be supported (and if it's not a material statement, then arguably it shouldn't even be there), and especially anything potentially contentious, any private personal or family detail, as well as direct quotations. What is 'potentially contentious' is debatable, but I would recommend erring on the side of caution and assuming more or less everything is. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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