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07:16, 31 October 2024 review of submission by LukasThomas57

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I wanted to make an article about the singer LiamWRLD/L1am but it got rejected and I wanted to know why that is 🫤 LukasThomas57 (talk) 07:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LukasThomas57: No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 07:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:08, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Fayomi Favour

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I created an article on the biography of Fawaz Muhammad on August but was declined on August 20th due to over citation to unworthy sites. Few days after that I edited it and removed some citations, (some of which were considered unworthy) , leaving only credible sites, but still it didn't make it. What should I do? Fayomi Favour (talk) 08:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fayomi Favour: The draft is not waiting for review at the moment. When you think it is ready to be reviewed again, click the blue "Resubmit" button in the decline notice. --bonadea contributions talk 08:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. You are greatly appreciated Fayomi Favour (talk) 13:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:34, 31 October 2024 review of submission by 2402:8100:279F:726C:ED86:ED81:1E4:A58B

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Music artist 2402:8100:279F:726C:ED86:ED81:1E4:A58B (talk) 08:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have not provided any sources to show that this musician meets the definition of a notable musician. That's why the draft was rejected, and will not be considered further. You should have sources in hand before attempting to write an article, please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 08:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:16, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Heather Clarke

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My first draft referenced a series of articles about our company, but some of those articles were written by affiliates. So I redid the draft to include ONLY articles written by unbiased reporters. Is the problem still my sources? Or is it that I work for the company/app that I am writing about? I did the disclosures it required, but I'm unsure why it keeps getting declined and listing multiple possible reasons. Thanks! Heather Clarke (talk) 12:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Heather Clarke First, I see you have declared a WP:COI on your user page. This is insufficient. I have placed a formal question abut paid editing on your user talk page.
Second, why do you feel this company deserves an article? What is notable about it?
Third, the decline rationales ought to be easy to understand. If they are not then we need to clarify them. With precision, what do you not understand, please?
Before answering any questions make the paid editing declaration on your user page. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:23, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Job Kiprop Kwonyike

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I am an employee and I believe I have disclosed in my user page. Can I write the content or must I seek a thid party to do the same. Job Kiprop Kwonyike (talk) 12:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Job Kiprop Kwonyike Anyone seeking payment for writing articles may be part of a SCAM. Please be extremely careful.
You may write an article where you are a paid editor. However, it must meet our standards. You may not advertise you business. Please read HELP:YFA. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Job Kiprop Kwonyike I see that your draft has been deleted twice as an advert. Please learn from this. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have learn. I respect your team a lot, that is why I am seeking guidance on simply how to have a company page approved. 41.90.118.145 (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't have "company pages" here. We have articles about certain companies that meet our criteria. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell about themselves and what they do. Articles summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, not what it says about itself. 331dot (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 18:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:15, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Druvx13

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I am requesting assistance to better understand how to improve the sourcing and citation requirements for my draft article, "Zand Hanuman." I have added multiple references, including citations from the Gujarati Wikipedia and a local historical website, History of Vadodara. However, the draft was declined for being "improperly sourced."

I would appreciate guidance on:

1. The type of additional sources that would meet Wikipedia’s standards for notability and reliability for historic/religious sites like this one.

2. How to improve my existing citations or reference formatting.

3. Any additional steps I should take to provide verifiable information for this article.

Thank you for your assistance! Druvx13 (talk) 13:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Druvx13: you need to tell us where this information came from; those are the sources that you should add.
You're not currently citing anything, you've merely listed two sources (one of which being Wikipedia, which is not a valid source). This makes it very difficult for the reviewer to see where the information comes from, and how much of it does not come from a reliable source. Please see WP:REFB for advice on referencing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:20, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Artistguides

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My draft for Wiki has been rejected three times, without further instruction or feedback of how I can improve my article. I was wondering if there was some insight I could gain by someone to let me know why my article is being rejected. I have previously edited the article to ensure there are no bare URLs as per one of the feedback suggestions, so I am unsure why this is still being rejected, some feedback just reads as ' a non notable' article, however there are many news articles published about Hendog for his work in Street Art so I am unsure why this would be a non notable article for Wikipedia. Artistguides (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was declined twice and rejected the last time because the reviewer felt "this submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia". It seems to just serve to document his work, none of which is itself notable. That would mean this street artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. 331dot (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:35, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Rosebabysu

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I have readjusted the content and added new source information. Please review and guide me. Thank you. Rosebabysu (talk) 13:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have submitted it for review and it is pending. It will be reviewed in due course, and the reviewer will leave you feedback if not accepted. 331dot (talk) 13:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosebabysu, please stop making new sections here. Telling us you have updated the draft is not going to get it reviewed faster. This board is here for people to ask questions about the process. You have made four sections in three days, none of which involved asking a question. Please be patient and only come here if you have a question, so that volunteers' time is not wasted. StartGrammarTime (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:22, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Mel tilly

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I don't understand why this was rejected. Nancy is a notable person with references that are credible and reputable. I just edited the draft and added two awards. Nancy's co-founder has a wikipedia page that is published (Michael Koppelman) and I would like to get her page published as well. Thank you. Melanie Shirley (talk) 14:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mel tilly It was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. The whole url is not necessary when linking to another Wikipedia article or page, I fixed this for you.
Please see other stuff exists. Each article or draft is judged on its own merits, not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may not be appropriate(I haven't examined it yet).
Most of the awards you list do not contribute to notability, as the awards themselves do not have articles(like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award). The draft just documents her activities, it does not summarize what independent reliable sources say is notable about her. 331dot (talk) 14:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the Koppelman article, it is very poorly sourced(note that is is marked with a maintenance tag as problematic) and a poor model to use. If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are classified as good articles. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have sent Michael Koppelman to WP:AFD, thank you for bringing it to our attention. Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article on Koppelman predates the drafting process entirely (first edit 2004 Dec 01) and was thus never formally drafted. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:23, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Misa-Mii

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publishing an article about a content creator and their biography Misa-Mii (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is NOT a potential article it is blatant, unsourced, totally inappropriate promotion and correctly rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:53, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Richard Michael Allen Richmond 51

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I just want to ensure that my submission was permanently deleted. If not, please let me know what I need to do to delete the submission. Thanks Richard Michael Allen Richmond 51 (talk) 16:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's now deleted. 331dot (talk) 17:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Be advised that "deleted" means it is no longer visible to the public, but it is not vaporized, it can be seen by admins and recovered if requested. 331dot (talk) 17:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:37, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Ingenierofilantropo

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Hello.

This is not promotional, and is 100% factual. Do you have any other means by which this page could move forward, or edits that can be made? Ingenierofilantropo (talk) 22:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ingenierofilantropo Rammed full of copyright violating pictures. No. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 23:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I own all of these files. Ingenierofilantropo (talk) 23:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ingenierofilantropo Then prove that you have the right to upload them by following the process at c:COM:VRT. They are being handled at Wikimedia Commons currently. Ownership of a photograph does not mean you own the copyright, nor that you have the right to upload it. Copyright is more complex than many people realise.
The draft has been deleted. If you disagree with the deleting administrator please approach them in the first instance. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 00:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I will review the c:COM:VRT protocol. Ingenierofilantropo (talk) 00:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:56, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Bkiller127

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I have not found “Proof” of your statement. Bkiller127 (talk) 22:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Patent nonsense. Theroadislong (talk) 23:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't this be G11'ed instead of being G1'ed? I don't see how this one is gibberish, and my best bet is that this draft be speeded under other criteria's like G11... ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is G11, now. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:07, 31 October 2024 review of submission by Alex.Dybala

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I made an artice and it got approved but they took it down and made it a draft again. Was the reason for not enough secondary or tertiary sources?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alex.Dybala#c-SafariScribe-20241031041100-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Simone_Scaglia_has_been_accepted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Scaglia

Alex.Dybala (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No independent sources? Theroadislong (talk) 23:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to know why my draft wasn't approved

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draft:loves farm Size5football (talk) 23:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No independent sources? Theroadislong (talk) 23:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]