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editHello
The page is a notable superlative—a popular topic on Wikipedia. Category:Lists of Superlatives has hundreds of pages. Many more superlative pages are excluded in the Category, like all-time leaders in various leagues in sport. Wikipedia accepts superlatives like List of most viewed YouTube videos and List of most viewed Vevo videos; why should it delete its own most viewed pages?
Moreover, Wikipedia has pages of precisely the same kind:
User:West.andrew.g/Popular pages
Wikipedia:Most popular pages October 2001
Wikipedia:Popular pages 2003: Oct.
Wikipedia:Popular pages 2004: Mar. through Sep.
Wikipedia:Popular pages 2008: May
Wikipedia:Most read articles in 2008
Wikipedia:Most read articles in 2009
Wikipedia:Most read articles in 2010
Besides statistics, these pages demonstrate human interests. The above-mentioned top-lists show views for short periods, indicating current interests; the present top-list shows views for much longer period, demonstrating more permanent interests.
Human interests is another encyclopedic subject and all-time most viewed Wikipedia pages would be one of the best indicators. Youtube ranking is dominated by music videos; Alexa Internet ranking by service webs; Amazon.com ranking demonstrates interests of book-readers who today represent a much smaller group than Wikipedia readers. For this reason the lack of all-time most viewed Wikipedia pages, in my opinion, is one of most regrettable omission of Internet in general and Wikipedia in particular. This page partly fills this gap in knowledge.
Max
PS: At last, it is a great race. Personally, I am in favor of Human penis size. As of April 2019, it is sandwiched between Scarlett Johansson and Jennifer Aniston on the 82nd rank.
Millions or billions?
edit@Maxaxax: Is the first table wrong, or all the others? For example, the first table currently says 81.0 million views for India, but the second table says 81,000 million. Somewhere the units are getting mixed up. —Patrug (talk) 04:13, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Confirm Me!
editI've heard someone saying that,Shahrukh Khan becomes the second searched person on wikipedia..But now,when I enter in this page,I saw Jhonny Depp on 2nd places...Confirm me plz.. Aabiralsaad2 (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2018 (UTC) Shahrukh Khan has 24 million views as of March 31, 2018.[1]--Maxaxax (talk) 22:19, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Modern Political Leaders
editIn the Country column for C. Colombus, it says Genoa. Genoa isn't a country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epmtunes (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Having failed to keep pace with more recent leaders, mostly the Anglo-American, Colombus descended from this page and solved the problem. Mary, Queen of Scots, replaced him in early 2021.--Maxaxax (talk) 06:38, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia is a great source
editWikipedia may just be a anyone edit project/subject. Even when the world looks for answers to their cars what they are, and how they work, everything on this website contents, community talks, etc this may not be the first place to look but I’ve used Wikipedia a lot for answers to what I’m looking for and it’s there. Now we are on the brink of loosing what we all as everyone in the world have posted because the website doesn’t have the money to stay alive. So you will have to pay to remove ads just to view content. Also just to view things like cars. For Example: I’m a ford guy and this will argued over a lot but, my motor favorite is 4g63 motor in the lancer. To see what other models of car this motor is used in I looked here on Wikipedia. So all I’m asking is to have heart and help Wikipedia. Don’t pay to remove ads, Keep this website afloat. Thanks, Chazbrick Chazbrick945 (talk) 21:54, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
3rd Millennium People
editThe article includes a category for "3rd millennium people," which according to the article "is defined here as starting in 2000." But you can't just redefine terms that already have definitions, and the 3rd millennium, objectively, began in 2001. The category should either be renamed to "2000s (millennium) people" or people born in 2000 should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oooooooseven (talk • contribs) 04:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
RMS Titanic
editWhy is RMS Titanic is included in the list ‘Film and TV Series’? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:3A80:536:F12D:B070:4D63:A3BB:7993 (talk) 23:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
It is a mistake. Thank you for noting. I change it when I am back at work with a normal computer. Removed--2.55.170.153 (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Done--Maxaxax (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
John Cena and the Undertaker
edit@Maxaxax: - as a veteran editor in the field of professional wrestling, I can assure you that both John Cena and the Undertaker are best known for their professional wrestling careers. Cena is not primarily a singer, and the Undertaker is not primarily a film actor. Read their articles, and you can see the focus is on pro-wrestling. I would change it myself, but I don't have the statistics of the other people who would be affected by the list changes. starship.paint (talk) 05:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Agree. I can only change it after the lockdown when I am back at work with the normal computer.--Maxaxax (talk) 03:06, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Done--Maxaxax (talk) 01:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021
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Change Jeddah Tower from 1944 to 2013 2003:C3:1F26:C100:9D04:BB7C:AA04:2B4A (talk) 23:02, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Changed to "On hold". ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
What is the deal with the hyphen being so high on the list?
edit- is ranked very high on this list, which I thought was a glitch, so I checked it -- indeed, - seems to have had 14,212,351 pageviews in the last 30 days. However, Hyphen-minus, which it redirects to, has 4,125 pageviews in the last 30 days. What the hell is going on with that? Why? How? jp×g 06:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- If I'm reading WP:5000 right, it's what happens when someone tries to go to a page that doesn't exist. Vaticidalprophet 11:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
"Criminals"
editWhats up with the that list? It says "This is a list of minor criminals" and then lists Pablo Escobar, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson and Al Capone alongside Little Wayne... The comment "For major criminals see the list above" makes me think someone was having a laugh, as the list above is "Modern Political Leaders".
- Makes me think that as well. I've removed those comments. --Antiquary (talk) 13:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
They are minor compared to some political leaders such as Hitler, Stalin, Putin, bin Laden. It was a joke with a measure of truth. --Maxaxax (talk) 03:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hitler should be listed in both lists though. He wrote his book when he was in prison A11w1ss3nd (talk) 12:28, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
This must be a joke. In the athletes section, it is stated that some athletes like Arnold Schwarzenegger are listed as actors because they are better known in this role. Surely Lil Wayne and Tupac Shakur are known for their music, not their criminal involvements. I would strongly recommend to reconsider this section. Trepang2 (talk) 02:47, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Is there any way to see all-time views on an article?
editI am trying to find the most viewed video games of all time on Wikipedia for a project, but I can't seem to find any way of seeing the site's viewing statistics for all time, only over short periods. Surely there must be a way to see the most-viewed articles of all time, and not just over an incredibly short span of time? --Darth Watto (talk) 18:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darth Watto: We have all-time views since about 2014, depending on article. Prior to that, there were some different stats pages, but without precision. There likely will be a way that the Wikimedia Foundation has all-time view data for all articles, or could retrieve it from servers, but there is no public tool that shows it. I'd like to further back-date the Top 50, though it's not that important, so if you do bother to ask WMF for the data, I'd be glad of it too. Kingsif (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
is it possible to see most popular pages by location?
editI was curious if there is a way look at page views by location. It would be interesting for me to know what the most popular Wikipedia pages in Utah are, for example. Are those statistics available? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Rachel Helps (BYU): I mean, that data exists, as does probably the data for all the pageviews prior to 2013 and 2007, on a server somewhere. Occasionally, other media release lists of the "top Wikipedia articles in [THEIR COUNTRY]", but we don't have a list with geographic specificity, and I doubt there are any companies out there bothering to ask Wikimedia about states (if indeed the companies making those lists use WP data rather than other means... they almost certainly use tracking cookies instead). So, er, contact the Wikimedia foundation, but if it's just "interesting" and not "important", it is unlikely they will bother. Kingsif (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- I see, so that data isn't publicly available. Thank you for your response. My interest in the statistics are from a desire to connect the "patron-driven collections" library movement with my own work, which could focus on pages that are most popular in my area. I have some other ways of deducing what kinds of Wikipedia pages are most popular with BYU students though, so I'll stick with those for now. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Madonna mentioned twice
editMadonna and Madonna (entertainer) pages are both mentioned twice. I know that the Madonna (entertainer) page was recently changed to simply Madonna, doesn't this mean we can just merge the visits of both pages in one? 57+71=128 million Johnny Gnecco (talk) 23:02, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for noting. I removed the duplicates. 71 million is the total of Madonna + Madonna entertainer.--Maxaxax (talk) 02:33, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Companies/Brands section
editCan somebody make a section of the most popular company/brand pages on Wikipedia because I don't have the numbers to make one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Costas theodorou7 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- No one has the numbers. It works on the do-it-yourself principle. You copy URL of the category and launch into the Massview tool. Then you go through a triple-shock trial:
- 1. First, it shocks you by not counting over 20,000 pages; if you recover,
- 2. you decide to process subcategories one by one, and at this stage you get shocked by the number of subcategories; if you recover again,
- 3. you engage in processing subcategories and get shocked by the time it takes the tool to build data-set for any category of over 1000 pages for all time and you cannot switch somewhere else on the same device because the tool, feeling disrespect, stops working.
- If you survive all the above, you get the desired numbers. It is a complex, labor-intensive and time-consuming endeavor and you need an asperger perseverance to pass all the way through. Maxaxa (talk) 02:48, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
"Wikipedia:Most popular pages" listed at Redirects for discussion
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On the “People” list…
editI noticed that on the “people” section of this list, John Lennon is there twice. 146.200.250.40 (talk) 12:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. It appears he should actually have 121 million views. T is for time (talk) 23:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- It was accidental duplicate. Lennon has 63 million views Maxaxa (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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"Wikipedia:Most visited articles" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Wikipedia:Most-viewed pages" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Wikipedia:Top pages" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Why is Assange on it? RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:56, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- He was convicted. 91.208.9.81 (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2022 (UTC)--Maxaxa (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
NPOV?
editIs this page supposed to be NPOV or not?
"In 2020 AD, the human penis size descended from the list. Paraphrasing the Book of Samuel, weep ye, daughters of the world, the mighty one has fallen. After nearly two decades, one of the founding members of the top-100 list is no longer with us. A moment of silence."
is obviously not NPOV. I find it funny but that's irrelevant to the point of the encyclopedia. ButterCashier (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Why funny? I find it sad and tragic.--Maxaxa (talk) 02:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- NPOV doesn't apply in project space. EEng 02:17, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Page Views
editAre you really sure you are calculating the page views right compared to last year on january 2022? Because i used this https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2022-01-01&end=2023-01-03&pages=A
and when i did the math to see how much they gained during the last 12 months,none of the athletes for example that i checked like The Undertaker,David Beckham,Manny Pacquiao,Brock Lesnar,Mike Tyson or the majority on the list for example gained 7 Millions page views from last year unless it was also done wrong last year too I’m curious about the source for this Andrewnageh123 (talk) 22:15, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
I’m actually curious Andrewnageh123 (talk) 02:28, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- I used the same tool but the massview option, processing categories like FIFA World Cup players, All Star players, Boxing champions, etc. I now see it gives different numbers for several athletes, though Tyson and Undertaker are correct. I do not know what happened. I fix the athletes now and check the rest later. Maxaxa (talk) 06:01, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Innit' funny how the most popular page is the main one. XD Sangsangaplaz (talk) 13:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Where’s other topics like technology, food and drink, or medicine/anatomy? 205.234.80.21 (talk) 16:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
2020 event of the year
editWhat on earth is this paragraph doing on this page? A quote from the bible about the page for penis falling from the top 100? I thought this page was restricted to prevent vandalism, I can't see any citations for this paragraph save for the book of Samuel quote and it is definitely not necessary Posshy (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC) Posshy, we got citation for this paragraph, we did it! I agree Bible is a vandal book and do not know what on earth this book is doing on earth. May be it was bad idea to paraphrase it in the context, it insults penis.--Maxaxa (talk) 10:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Change "And the following is the world where life is nusty, brutish and short." to "And the following is the world where life is nasty, brutish and short." 130.95.156.15 (talk) 09:36, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
First two decades incorrect
editHello, I can't edit this article as I have a new account.
The first two decades section cites that only one person, Larry Sanger, is in the top 100 pages in October 2001. However, this is incorrect - Osama Bin Laden is a person too. Azutini (talk) 11:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
“Science Books” probably should be changed or renamed
editI don’t know that it’s useful in any way to have Mein Kampf in the same category as On The Origins of Species, or at least not to call it a “Science Book” surely we could change this? WZibell (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- If these are all non-fiction, it should be called "Non-Fiction Books." There are plenty of books that aren't science books on this list. It's clearly misnamed. Jeff (talk) 14:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Update Lists
editThe lists are outdated, need to be updated for 2024 79.130.7.39 (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)