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Add Projection screen  5

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A common type of Display device  5, especially in large-scale applications.

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Should Video projector be listed instead? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

• Why not both? starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Projector  5 is already listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Digital video  5

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We list multiple digital video file formats but not the parent concept

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
4. With this added, wondering if we could even trim the list of specific file formats. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

   I would support that. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Model  5

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Very important in the representation of information.

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Should be V4. starship.paint (RUN) 12:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Physical object  5

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Important concept.

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Rated High-Importance by WikiProject Philosophy and WikiProject Metaphysics. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Information security  5

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A related concept to Computer security  4, with the distinction that computer systems are not necessarily involved.

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
3. Support, really good practical tech topic (and not just for computers). -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
4. Yes, almost every midsize and large company have a team dedicated to this. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Hazard  5

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A major concept in Occupational safety and health  4.

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1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
3. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
5. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
6. Vileplume (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

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Delist Ceramic chemistry

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Subdiscipline of Chemistry that is wholly encompassed by the article ceramic engineering. 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)~

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1. Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 12:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
4. Damn this may be the shortest Level 5 article I've ever seen. Aurangzebra (talk) 06:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

   It was about 5 paragraphs when first listed in 2022, but as mentioned below was complete advertisement and had no verifiable information and so was cut down to what you see today. Reconrabbit 14:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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• This article was created mainly to advertise someone's website. Ceramics#Properties describes most of the information that could be here. A better name for the article would be ceramic chemical processing, but the scope of this delisting is to make room for other things and allow for an easier merge.

Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add Common blackbird

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Extremely prevalent species of bird in Europe and that also consistenly appears in popular culture; 116 interwikis.

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Tamandua and Mara (mammal)

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Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_12 this article was removed, it was replaced by Megalonyx though no rationale was given for the addition other than personal opinion. Considering we are under quota and this is a widespread and behaviourally unique group of anteaters which is also decently common in captivity I think it deserves a place at this level. Maras are a widespread rodent in southern Patagonia that are also extremely widespread in captivity, considering we list other less known rodents from the region such as viscacha it would make sense to include the mara as well.

Support

1. as nom Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Appian Way

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Better known as Via Appia, the most important and well-known of Roman roads  5.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
2. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. SailorGardevoir (talk) 03:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Sydney Metro

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The Sydney Metro only opened in 2019 and only has an annual ridership of 19,738,171. Out of all the rapid transit systems listed as vital articles, the Sydney Metro has the second lowest ridership, only beating the Glasgow Subway. The only reason I can guess why the Sydney Metro is a VA is for there to be a token Australian transit system listed as VA. My first preference would be to remove Sydney Metro without replacement, but I would be open to replacing Sydney Metro with Sydney Trains as well. The Sydney Trains system has an annual ridership of 288.3 million, placing it much better compared to the rapid transit systems listed as VA. Steelkamp (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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1. As someone who has used the Sydney Metro, I support removing it from VA5. It is not something that the rest of the world needs to read about in an encyclopedia of 50,000 articles. Gizza (talk) 22:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
2. Support swap with Sydney Trains Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 16:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
3. Support swap with Sydney Trains. Interstellarity (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
4. remove per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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I don't want to say I support or oppose just yet but I do want to add that part of the reason for its somewhat elevated status might be because it is currently undergoing and is planned to undergo significant expansion. Most of the network is currently under construction as well so I would expect patronage to increase significantly soon. Takerlamar (talk) 21:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add U.S. Route 66

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We don’t have any individual roads, and probably don’t need to, but I think this road is iconic enough to warrant discussion.

Support

1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
2. The most famous highway in the country. There are entire museums dedicated to it. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Support, there's a reason it's one of the first things you see on Culture of the United States. Kevinishere15 (talk) 21:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
5. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Does Route 66 have any historical importance? For instance, did people used the route during the territorial expansion of the US? The Blue Rider 23:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  It’s the first highway in the US to be fully paved. A lot of people used it to move to the West, especially a bunch of Okies escaping the Dust Bowl  4. Again though, I’m mostly suggesting it because of how famous it is. SailorGardevoir (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Chatbot  5

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Chatbots are one of the primary applications of generative AI models, but they have a long history. They started long before gen AI entered the spotlight, and have been used in customer support for a long time.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Widely used. Interstellarity (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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• I'm finding chatbots to be too circumcised to customer support. The Blue Rider 16:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

  @The Blue Rider: Would ChatGPT not be a chatbot? QuicoleJR (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

  Is it? Oh. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Injury in humans  5

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The type of Injury  3 that humans are most concerned about.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Videotape

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No longer used, but still vital. Interstellarity (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 03:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Audiobook

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Plenty of people listen to audiobooks every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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Swap: Remove Twitter, Add X (social network)

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There are two separate articles here, but I just wanted to open up a discussion here on which one is more vital. Interstellarity (talk) 00:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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1. It is absurd that two articles exist. X is too recent to be vital. The Blue Rider 03:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Should probably be merged together, but Twitter is the much more vital article between the two. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Twitter was much more vital and longstanding than X. As for the above points about why two articles exist, there was a major consensus to split Twitter into two articles. λ NegativeMP1 19:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Solar panel  5

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An increasingly ubiquitous technology, solar panels are the most widely used source of Solar power  4.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. We could use some more renewable energy topics on the list. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add emerging/futurism concepts

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Add Emerging technologies  5

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The very concept. "Emerging technologies are technologies whose development, practical applications, or both are still largely unrealized... [but] are often perceived as capable of changing the status quo.". We list some of them already - artificial intelligence, robotics. But there's more to consider. 22 intewikis, ~450 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Support, good concept to add for more context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
4. Support-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mind uploading

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"a speculative process of whole brain emulation in which a brain scan is used to completely emulate the mental state of the individual in a digital computer". 20 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support adding to Tech. I wouldn't oppose if this came up on the Society page with other ideas from speculative fiction. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Brain–computer interface  5

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"a direct communication pathway between the brain's electrical activity and an external device". Already tested on animals. 34 intewikis, ~700 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Support, still experimental, but AFAIK this is beyond animal-testing and into studies with people using these for prosthetics. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Already into human testing Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
4. Why not? Interstellarity (talk) 00:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Terraforming

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Pretty classic in sf, but also subject to much scientific discourse. 47 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Would definitely support something less speculative though like Afforestation and related articles. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Generation ship

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A realistic way to get to other planets. Sf trope too. 21 intewikis, ~175 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech; no opposition to it being in speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Artificial gravity  5

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Not just a sf trope (and don't confuse with anti-gravity), can be created by rotation, etc. 25 intewikis, ~335 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Support, article isn't too speculative, has good details on microgravity training too. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Space industry  5

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Parent concept to the above. 9 intewikis, 89 ~daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Strong support, but not under Tech. Probably best under Society like with Space tourism. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Space elevator

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Classic proposal/future invention. 50 intewikis, ~750 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, another idea that is (while outwardly simple) a bit too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Wouldn't oppose under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Molecular assembler

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Same as above. 22 intewikis, but just ~65 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, close to borderline for me, but article even says it's more focused on the speculative idea, not mundane things like ribosomes. Not opposed if it goes under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
3. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Molecular machine  5

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Continuing. 32 intewikis, ~135 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Support, first impression is the article could distinguish natural and artificial instances better (article split?) Doesn't make the concept less vital though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Self-replication  5

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Ditto, but somewhat broader concept. 19 intewikis, ~97 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Strong support, but under Science Basics, maybe around the same area we list System. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Support under Science Basics, per Zar2gar1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
4. Support under Science Basics - a broad enough concept to be listed. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Megastructure

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Parent for a ton of interesting concepts related to future engineering. 12 intewikis, ~290 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, seems like the article itself can't decide if it includes currently feasible structures or only more speculative, larger ones. However, would support an article that split out the more feasible bits or Megaproject. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Would rather list Megaproject instead. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Dyson sphere

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Perhapos the best known megastructure proposal. 42 intewikis, ~1,9k daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Matrioshka brain

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More refined version of the above. 19 intewikis, ~315 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Technological convergence  5

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"the tendency for technologies that were originally unrelated to become more closely integrated and even unified as they develop and advance." 24 intewikis, ~86 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Strong support, another good article for context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
3. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

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• Just remembered, but I listed many context articles related to technology when I reworked Template:Technology topics. Check under "Perspectives" and "Related concepts" if you want other ideas for proposals. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Add Text-to-image model

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Covers DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and Midjourney. This type of AI in particular has sparked debate about human-made vs. AI art.

Support

1. As Nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

   Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Per Aurangzebra. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Per Aurangzebra. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
3. per Aurangzebra. starship.paint (RUN) 13:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. I think this could start a slippery slope where we will feel compelled to list all modalities when they are inevitably released widely (text-to-video model, AI code generation which does not even have a page yet etc.). Maybe we want to do this (after all, we already do have Speech synthesis  4 which is text-to-speech but this is a much more mature and widely used technology). But I feel like why bloat the list when your proposal for Generative artificial intelligence already covers all of these subfields and more. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

   Looks like I was only a week or so off: https://openai.com/sora. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Feature phone

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We already list Smartphone so this makes sense as a logical addition. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Feature phones only came to be distinguished as "feature phones" upon the popularization of smartphones, at which point the category of "mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier generations of mobile telephones" has become a relatively niche product. I think listing both Smartphone  4 and History of mobile phones  5 adequately cover the subject. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
2. The concept of a feature phone is becoming more unimportant as time continues, and I think if we add it as a VA now, it will be removed in 10 years anyway. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Per above. People are increasingly opting for smart watches, if they want a phone without smartphone functions. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

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Add Suicide intervention  5

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The sibling topic to Suicide prevention  5, this is what you do to stop a suicide if you are past the point of prevention. It is a pretty important topic to Suicide  3, and appears a lot more than prevention in pop culture.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
2. Don't see why this wouldn't be Level 5. That said, while they technically fit under Death, would the suicide-related articles make more sense somewhere under Health? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
3. If Suicide prevention gets to level 4, my support will be stronger. Interstellarity (talk) 00:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. A fairly common practice within the psychiatric field but not on the same level as for instance Kamikaze. The Blue Rider 19:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

   @The Blue Rider: I don't see why not, I would argue it is just as important as Suicide prevention  5, especially since it has more of a presence in culture due to being the default way of stopping a suicide in fiction. Besides, Suicide  3 is VA3 and this is a notable enough subtopic to make the list. As you said, it is a fairly common practice. The comparison to Kamikaze also doesn't make much sense to me, since that was part of the Japanese military and not something happening to everyday people. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

   Kamikaze is a type of suicide thus the comparison. It's a common practice in psychiatric but it's relatively minor, in the sense that it just consists in a couple of questions on whether people have suicidal ideation, a time and date, access to lethal means and if that's so they probably will get admitted to the hospital, but that's the minority of people. Most of the work to mitigate suicide is done through prevention. The Blue Rider 16:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

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• Comment to avoid automatic archiving, as the discussion has not ended yet. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add Cell potency

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Vital concept for understanding organism development at all stages, and differentiating between cell types in the adult organism. Also a vital concept for understanding in vitro cell cultures, early embryo development and more. GraziePrego (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Induced pluripotent stem cell

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A huge milestone in in vitro modelling of embryo development that forms the foundation of huge amounts of research. GraziePrego (talk) 08:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Swap Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation with Toei Subway

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The Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation is the operator of the much better known Toei Subway. Most (if not all) other rapid transit systems listed as VA are the transit systems themselves, rather than the operator of these transit systems. Notice how London Underground is listed as a VA, and Transport for London is not. Steelkamp (talk) 15:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Nom
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

@Steelkamp: You forgot to add the customary at vital "support as nominator" vote. Also, please consider reviewing and voting on other VA proposals. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Bay Area Rapid Transit

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It seems to be the least important of the US cities where their transit systems are listed. There really isn't anything standing out that make it vital. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
2. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Not famous or iconic Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Swap Indian Pacific out for The Ghan

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The Ghan is the more well-known Australian long-distance train in my experience. Though it is questionable whether either should be listed: the only other train service listed is the Orient Express  5.

Support

1. Support as nom. J947 ‡ ^edits 00:47, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Support removal Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Support removal. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Support removal, not as iconic as Orient Express  5 Makkool (talk) 13:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose addition. It's questionable whether any train service should be listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Toyota Corolla  5

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With over 50 million units sold, it is by far the best-selling car in history. The Corolla is emblematic of the Japanese car industry much like the Volkswagen Beetle  5 is for Germany.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Definitely. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add some basic biological processes to Basics

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Add Breathing  4

Something you do extremely often, every day. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Basic concept, this is the reason Lung  3 is VA3. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Blinking  5

Something you do extremely often, every day. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

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Add Cardiac cycle  5

The heartbeat. Something you do extremely often, every minute. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Connected space

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Connectedness is one of the fundamental concepts of point-set topology. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Copying  5

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A broad concept relating to information. Place under information technology?

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Support outside of Tech, this is really such a general & basic process, I feel almost like it belongs more in Philosophy somewhere. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Aroma compound  5

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Fragrances are a major product.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Support in Chemistry, even if many are produced artificially. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders  5 and International Classification of Diseases  5

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The two most popular diagnostic manuals in the world surely deserve a spot in the vital list. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. However, I think the DSM belongs under Nonfiction books in Arts (this is where we put Gray's Anatomy  5 which is also a medical reference). ICD is fine in Health, Medicine, and Disease. Aurangzebra (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Productivity software

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Type of software Microsoft Office and LibreOffice are. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Too general.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add Nicotiana  5

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The genus of the plants that are used to make Tobacco  4. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Physical activity  5

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Notable omission. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Pharmaceutical industry  5

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Pretty important alongside Pharmacy. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Food additive additions

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These are a well-known part of everyday life that most people are at least familiar with, and they should be listed.

Add Food additive  5

Examples include Vinegar  4, among others. 59 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Sugar substitute  5

Commonly used additive to get the sweetness of sugar with less calories. 37 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Food and Drink.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Food coloring  5

Adds color to food. Ask almost anyone, and they will know what it is. 35 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
6. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Mobile computing

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Very common topic in today's society especially with the rise of mobile devices. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. The term "mobile" as the opposite of "desktop" is an vital term. However, I think it refers to Mobile operating system and to a lesser extent Mobile device  4. One of those needs to be vital. Mobile computing sounds like it should be vital, but I don't really think it is.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add Pioneer plaque

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Similar reasons to the voyager golden record. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Merger discussion of Boot (medicine) and Walking boot

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Please join the discussion at Talk:Boot_(medicine)#Merger_discussion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I have restored this notice. The bot noticed it was 60 days old with no comment. This restarts the clock.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• This discussion was finally closed with Boot (medicine) being merged into Orthopedic boot. I nominate that the latter replace the former on this list
  • I think that we can edit this boldly without voting. Our apparent consensus has been that redirects shouldn't be on the vital articles list. Boot (medicine) had enough support to be included back in January, and I don't think anyone would want it removed instead. So let's just swap orthopedic boot with it. Makkool (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nom. --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Support adding Orthopedic boot and removing Boot (medicine). IDBLWK (talk) 04:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Zeppelin  5

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A common type of airship, especially back in the day. Yes, we already have Rigid airship  5 listed, but I feel like this is different enough to also be listed, plus it has more interwikis and gets more pageviews on average than rigid airship. This should go alongside rigid airship, which is under Aviation [1].

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 23:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Civil aviation  5

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We list Military aviation  5, but not its opposite. I think it's vital as well at this level.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 09:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
2. I agree. Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 05:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
5. Makes sense. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 03:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Animal testing  5

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A major issue not yet listed. Not sure of the place, maybe Science: Basics?

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Makkool: There is already an active nomination for this higher up on the talk page. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Least squares

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Most common way to do a Regression analysis  4. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Famous. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
4. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 02:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Neutral for now because it is very important but I feel like it is sufficiently covered in the article for Linear regression  5 already. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  One is the estimation the other is the model, I think these two differ significantly. The Blue Rider 21:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  @The Blue Rider: Yes and I'm saying that the article for the linear regression model has a full section for the linear least squares estimation method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression#Estimation_methods. Considering the fact that least squares is pretty much only used for regression, we don't need to include a separate article whose important aspects are covered by this one (and on the nonlinear side, we already list Non-linear least squares  5). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Aurangzebra: - given that Non-linear least squares exists, least squares is not wholly covered by linear regression. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Starship.paint: I didn't include that because the specific article for it is already VA5: Non-linear least squares  5. I think I would support a swap between the two though (non-linear least squares for the more general least squares). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Document

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We type documents every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Obviously. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mohs scale (potential swap with Friedrich Mohs  5)

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This is probably the best known hardness scale for minerals. (Also, I know that this is paradoxical, but I would kind of like to remove the guy who created it. His page is very short, and it doesn't seem like anyone has bothered to write more than a couple of paragraphs on him.)

Support

1. Support addition first and foremost. Support removal secondary. SailorGardevoir (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Support add, oppose removal. Aurangzebra (talk) 05:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Support add per nom, oppose removal as unnecessary. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Support addition, oppose removal. Interstellarity (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Airliner

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We should list this since this is basically a passenger plane. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Millions ride on these every day. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
3. Considering that Passenger aircraft redirects there. feminist🩸 (talk) 05:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Animal testing  5

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The use of animals in scientific experiments.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Toothpick

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Important material in dentistry. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Sure. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
3. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Clearcutting

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According to the article, "the most common method of logging". Weird that it's not listed before. Add to Technology/Agriculture/Trees and forestry.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. It would make more sense to nominate Logging, which isn't a VA. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 12:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Keystroke logging

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Too specific? Keyloggers are undeniably common, but it's always usually bundled in Spyware  5 (which it's a sub-article currently) and doesn't seems notable as a function on its own. 49p (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. 49p (talk) 17:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove HD DVD

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It lost the war for a high-definition optical disc format. I don't see how a format that lasted 2 years could be vital.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove EDonkey network

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A very (now) uncommon format, with BitTorrent  5 basically being a more popular option. I don't think it needs to be listed as it has little legacy.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mathematical statistics  5

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An important area of mathematics.

Support

1. As nominator. To probability and statistics. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 02:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Remove .exe

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Not really seeing a reason to list it under a sub-VA5 of Executable  5. We don't even list Executable and Linkable Format. (ELF files). It doesn't make sense to list types of executable as all executables are tasked "to perform code" and different formats don't have much differences than the operating systems they run in.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Actinote zikani

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An extremely rare butterfly previously thought to be extinct, is now listed on the IUCN's The world's 100 most threatened species list. To be honest, every species on that list should probably be VA5'd, due to their significance in the field of extinction.

Support

1. As nominator. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 20:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Despite its sad situation of being almost extinct it has close to zero biological and cultural influence. The Blue Rider 22:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
2. I am really not sure why the rarest species would be the most important. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. Per The Blue Rider and starship.paint. Yes, it's an extremely rare species, but I can't see adding all of the 100 most threatened species, especially when it lists obscure stuff like Bazzania bhutanica. We can definitely add the more well known ones (if they aren't already listed), but not all of them, especially the ones with extremeley low interwikis and pageviews like this one. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. The list referred to is a book that was published in 2012, by ZSL London Zoo in partnership with IUCN. It has not been updated since, and this species does not currently feature on the IUCN Red List. There are many, many Critically Endangered species including the once-common-with-my-lifetime European eel which potentially deserve it more. Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 14:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Reason I V5R'd it is because it is on the list of The world's 100 most threatened species. All of these species are extremely significant in the field of extinction, and are, well, the world's 100 most threatened species. I don't see how they aren't significant.

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Remove Rutherford scattering

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The article was merged into Rutherford scattering experiments  4. IDBLWK (talk) 04:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Plastics engineering

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The article was merged into Polymer engineering  5. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 03:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mpox

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Add to Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Biology_and_health_sciences/Health#Viral_diseases. Seems like a vital article since it is an epidemic in Africa. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Absolutely. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
3. 49p (talk) 02:21, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
6. Very important African disease. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add biogeographic realms

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Add all 8 individual realms under Biogeographic realm  5. We have still plenty of space in Biology to include them.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Birth defect  5

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More properly known as congenital disorders. “Birth defects affected about 96 million people as of 2015”.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Basic parent topic. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add emerging/futurism concepts (remaining nominations)

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

• I archived the closed nominations, only two open ones are left. starship.paint (RUN) 14:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Add Asteroid mining  5

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Big industry of the future, unless we self-destruct :) 22 intewikis, ~375 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 11:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Support, comment below  Carlwev  13:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• This one's a toss-up for me. The actual technical side of it isn't too speculative; people talk about it now and it probably could be done if somebody really wanted to. Skeptical the economics will ever let it take off though, at least in my lifetime. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

  I agree, this one feels very on the border. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

• I think this fits in OK with other articles already listed. Although it is an educated guess, the concept is very likely going to happen in the future, and it's not exceptionally theoretical, like other concepts. We list time travel at lev 4 and at lev 5 we list space colonization and worm hole, the latter theoretical like time travel, and the former is possible, just difficult and not quite here yet unless you count the space stations. Asteroid mining will probably be significant in the not too distant future, and regardless of when and if it ever happens I'm sure the concept will be written and read about, studied and discussed a bit. Even if we still aren't doing it in 50 years, that argument hasn't stopped us listing time travel, worm hole or space colonization.  Carlwev  13:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Some key concepts related to Nanotechnology  4. 14 intewikis, ~150 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
2. We added Self-replication  5. @Zar2gar1: any change in opinion? starship.paint (RUN) 13:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Another borderline one for me: it can approximately be done right now, but feel like a lot of the concept revolves around more futuristic applications. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Add World

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Surprised this wasn't listed. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. !! The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
4. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 04:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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Possible overlap with Universe  2.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 15:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add Megafauna  5

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Commonly used zoological concept.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. Would also consider adding charismatic megafauna. The Blue Rider 00:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Diverticulitis  5

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Very common disease in the Western world, and Health is well under the quota. 39 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 16:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add health conditions (set 1 of 2)

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We are under quota by over 100 articles for Health. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Scar  5

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53 interwikis. Extremely common. Add to Injury?

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Extremely basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
5. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Pimple  5

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Common during puberty. 15 interwikis. One of the symptoms of Acne  4. Add to Symptoms and signs? starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Comedo  5

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Comedo are "blackheads" and "whiteheads". 38 interwikis. Very common. One of the symptoms of Acne  4. Add to Symptoms and signs? starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Not as well known, but still common. Supporting. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Patch (computing)  5

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Common concept in the digital world, especially with computers. Basically updating/modifying a software to most often fix any existing Software bug  5, though it can also just improve the software in general.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 04:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Glide (API)

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Defunct API that was replaced by OpenGL  5, DirectX  5, and the alikes. This was a proprietary API for 3dfx's graphic cards. Sure it ruled at a point, but it was a very short period: according to the 3dfx article they were mainly prominent in the late 1990s to 2000. We don't even list the company, 3dfx. Its rapid declined and became superfluous. Later bought by Nvidia  5 in 2000. The API was not useful other than being proprietary.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Multi-booting

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Many people dual boot their computer, but is it really a concept that needs to be listed? It's not a big concept in computers.

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1. 49p (talk) 21:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 03:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Compass rose

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Should be under Navigation. This is one of the basics of a compass. Interstellarity (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom.GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 02:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Some Aquaculture removals

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Not sure why we have so many articles dedicated to this, but these may balance some of the recent Technology additions we've made:

• Aquaculture of giant kelp
• Geoduck aquaculture
• Offshore aquaculture
• Organic aquaculture
• Raceway (aquaculture)
• Scallop aquaculture

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 00:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 09:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Very bad stats, indicating too specialized concepts.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Weak oppose Scallop aquaculture because I feel like people eat scallops often enough to include it and Scallop  4 is VA4, support the rest. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Urban Dictionary

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Not convinced this is vital other than that it's just a website.

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
2. 49p (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)\
3. Per nom.GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 21:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 20:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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Move online services to all in one pages

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I noticed that Apple and Microsoft are on a different page than Google, Amazon, and Facebook. I don’t think it makes sense to list several websites and companies on two different pages. I’m hoping that we can develop a structure so that major companies, websites, and services are all on the same page. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think we need to list companies and websites on the same page. I moved webpages back to where they were, but I did leave the IT companies with the rest in Economics. I also think that we should have a structure: something like Meta Platforms and Alphabet Inc.  5 in Economics and Facebook  4 and Google  4 in technology. Makkool (talk) 10:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Makkool I think we should discuss how we structure these pages at level 4. It didn’t make sense to me that Google, Apple, and Microsoft were on different places so I combined them into one. Any thoughts on what we should do with those pages? Interstellarity (talk) 15:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I think the best solution is the one I outlined above: to have Meta and Alphabet represent Facebook and Google along Apple and Microsoft. Makkool (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Makkool: I just noticed that YouTube, Facebook, and Wikipedia are in different sections. What do you want to do with that? Interstellarity (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Immunology additions

We are well under the quota for Health, and we are missing a lot of very basic topics. These are definitely more important to include than some random obscure author or actor.

Add Immunization  5

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The process where your Immune system  3 becomes better at fighting a specific Pathogen  4. One way of achieving this is through a Vaccine  3. 35 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Supporting. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Interstellarity (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
5. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
6. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Inoculation  5

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Parent topic to Vaccination  4. 25 interwikis.

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1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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One of the two main immunity strategies found in the Immune system  3. Forms the basis of Vaccination  4. 43 interwikis.

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1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Innate immune system  5

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One of the two main immunity strategies found in the Immune system  3. The main response found in plants and invertebrates, and the part that isn't specific to diseases you are immune to. 37 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Malaria vaccine  5

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Malaria  3 is VA3, and this vaccine reduces hospitalizations by around 30%. 26 interwikis.

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1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Considering we list Influenza vaccine. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Carbamazepine  5

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We really need to work on improving our health list. This medicine is on the WHO List of Essential Medicines, over two million prescriptions in the United States alone. 42 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Epilepsy.

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1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 12:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Spider web

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Everyone has seen a spider web/cobweb before. Basic concept that spiders do all the time. I have no idea where to put this. Maybe somewhere in the Biology page?

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Nest and Ant colony are missing too, I thought to check them to see where animal-made constructs are. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 21:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

   I gladly support both. Nest could possibly be V4 as well. Beehive is another notable one missing. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

3. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5.  Carlwev  04:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
6. In addition to everything else, also important to the V4 character of Spider-Man  4. Kevinishere15 (talk) 19:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
7. Per Kevinishere — Preceding unsigned comment added by OlifanofmrTennant (talk • contribs) 11:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
8. Clearly lots of support; categorize it under Animal Behavior? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Replace Fin, should be Fish fin

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Its a anatomy article, therefore the latter is a better fit. Fin article relates more to Technology. It might need be kept, just not in the anatomy section.Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator 07:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 15:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 17:01, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Centrosome

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The vital MTOC for many animal cell types, a hugely important organelle. Also, centrioles are already on there, and they make up the centrosome, so surely centrosome is higher priority for being on there? GraziePrego (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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1. per nom. Also, would you like to add your support, GraziePrego? Here at vital articles nominators usually support their proposals and are counted for the purposes of votes. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Support! Thank you for the tip that I can support my own, @Hanif Al Husaini. GraziePrego (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 02:20, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
5. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
6. Support, still not at quota & I'd think Biology should include every distinct organelle. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Codex  5

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The replacement for the Scroll  5 (proposed for VA4) and direct predecessor of the Book  2. Used for several centuries. 52 interwikis.

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1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
2. notable omission with many interwikis, per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Interstellarity (talk) 12:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, balances out a lot of the recentism in tech. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Input device and Output device

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Both cover fundamental concepts that are essential for Human–computer interaction  5. A User interface  4 relies on both, so this level-4 section (Touchscreen  4, Computer mouse  4, Keyboard technology  4, Computer monitor  4) includes both articles. Also includes computer-based Headphones  5 and Microphone  4, and sometimes Printer (computing)  4.

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1. As nom. B3251_(talk) 01:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Theoretically more timeless concepts than the specific device types.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Interstellarity (talk) 12:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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Term is an important one for reproduction. Interstellarity (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Obvious addition. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Support Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
4. Per nom GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 06:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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These concepts encompass a range of conditions and procedures directly affecting Women's health  5, Reproductive rights  5, and well-being:

In vitro fertilization

Amenhorrea

Hysterectomy

Ovarian cancer

Polycystic ovary syndrome

Pelvic inflammatory disease

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 21:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Support all. I have heard of most of these, and I trust that they are all vital. IVF in particular seems very important. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Oh wow, IVF isn't listed? feminist🩸 (talk) 12:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Things that are excluded because most people here are a dude. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
6. Things that are excluded because most people here are dudes, and most people here are more interested in other topics besides STEM.GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
7. All important, and we have the room. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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A mathematical operation on two functions (or sequences) that produces a third function. “Convolution has applications that include probability, statistics, acoustics, spectroscopy, signal processing and image processing, geophysics, engineering, physics, computer vision and differential equations”

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Very important operation Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
6. Absolutely, glad to start seeing more math proposals. If need be, there's a lot we can swap out there. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add health conditions (set 2 of 2)

Add Ingrown nail  5

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30 interwikis. Add to Diseases?

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1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mouth ulcer  5

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Common ailment and 22 interwikis. Add to Symptoms and signs?

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1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Interstellarity (talk) 12:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Typhoon

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Subtopic of tropical cyclone. Interstellarity (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Obviously. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Basic metereology and geography concept. The Blue Rider 03:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add some missing education items and writing utensils

Just some simple items you'd find in a school or other place that I feel are important enough for VA status.

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Very common; seen at many places, notably universities, but also shops and sporting facilities. Also basically the inspiration for Internet forums.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Blackboard  5

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Also known as chalkboard. Extremely common back in the day, but not as much nowadays, as they've mostly been replaced by the item below this. Still very recognizable, and not that hard to find one in our current world.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Whiteboard  5

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Basically the replacement for the blackboard. Extremely common and used at many places, notably schools and offices.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Marker pen  5

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The writing utensil for the whiteboard. Besides that, an extremely common writing utensil, especially in the school setting, one of the most common coloring utensils.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Crayon  5

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I just assumed that this and colored pencils were added, but I'm very surprised they haven't been yet. The most common coloring utensil ever, seen everywhere, been around forever.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Colored pencil  5

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Another very common coloring utensil, especially in the school setting. Another one I just assumed was already added.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 02:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Fountain pen  5

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Another common type of pen. 60 interwikis.

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1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Quill  5

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One of the original writing utensils. I feel like you can't talk about iconic and important writing utensils without mentioning this.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Computer vision  5

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A rapidly developing area of artificial intelligence that enables machines to interpret the visual world. Some applications include facial recognition and anomaly detection, which are increasingly used in transportation, healthcare, surveillance, and combat.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5. I normally push back against software topics, but this one should definitely be there. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Cold  5

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Everyday concept.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Wow. I can't believe that nobody noticed this yet. Should probably be V4. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Obviously Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
5. For sure. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Goose bumps  5 and Shivering  5

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Well known concepts, basically the body's response to the cold, the former via the appearance of bumps at the base of body hairs, and the later via the body shaking, teeth chattering, etc.

Support

1. Supporting both as nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add SIM card  5

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Essential technology in mobile devices.

Support

1. As nom. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 00:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
4. eSIM is probably going to be vital in a couple years as it becomes the new standard. 49p (talk) 05:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 06:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Wheelbarrow  4

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It's a level 4 VA but it's missing from the Agricultural tools section of the level 5 list. IDBLWK (talk) 06:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 06:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Actually, if it's already in Level 4, I don't think we need to vote. It's probably under a different section (maybe Everyday Life), and if it isn't, that's a mistake you can unilaterally fix. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add SARS-CoV-2  4

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Another level 4 VA missing from the level 5 list. IDBLWK (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
5. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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1. Good catch! I think if it was already added to VA4 and voted upon, it is safe to add it to VA5 without a discussion. Just added. Thanks! Aurangzebra (talk) 22:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

   I suspect it was added without discussion; here's the addition, with similar adjacent edits by the same user, and this is the only search result for "SARS-CoV-2" in the VA4 discussion pages.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Raft

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Ancient method of transport. Most logical place to put it is transportation. Interstellarity (talk) 19:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Obvious addition. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:14, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Makes sense to me. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Sure, Tech is still within the 2% quota buffer. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Web page, Domain name, and Web server

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These are major components of websites. Most logical place to list would be as a subtopic of website which is already listed at level 4. Interstellarity (talk) 20:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 20:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Support all three. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 03:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Hyperlink

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Place in Internet. A major component of links. Interstellarity (talk) 20:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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1. Interstellarity (talk) 20:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
3. One of the most important concepts in the Internet. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Here's an example. Important internet topic. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add User (computing)

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We list Password, but not the article on usernames. Maybe in Computing and information technology basics. Interstellarity (talk) 20:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 20:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. Another obvious addition. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Iostn (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 06:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Pager and Wireless

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These are important topics since pagers used to be more widespread and wireless is the new standard. Interstellarity (talk) 21:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Two basic concepts. Pagers are also relevant again for the time being due to a certain incident that occurred a few days ago. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:19, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
4. Iostn (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Firefox

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Firefox isn’t that important of a web browser. It has a very low market share and doesn’t seem to grow anytime soon.

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 11:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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1. Too historically significant; the market share was much bigger, about 1/3, at its peak, and over 6% (according to the StatCounter graph) is still a lot of people. It was/is big enough to get a Britannica article. Also a major example of Open source  5 software. Maybe remove it after another 5-10 years of dwindling users.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 12:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
2. This was more widely used than Internet Explorer  5 in some countries and is still by far the most widely used open source browser. Iostn (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
3. We have much less important things listed then one of the major browsers. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Way too historically significant, and is also a pretty good example of open source software as Laukku has said. None of the current web browsers we list should be removed. λ NegativeMP1 17:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Passive smoking

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Smoking is in the 1000 list. The 10'000 list contains cigarette, tobacco, health effects of tobacco, and smoking cessation, (the last up for removal from level 4). Passive smoking I would expect to be at least level 5, 50,000 material separate from the other articles at higher levels. I believe it would be of interest to general readers and experts, across several areas, such as health, social, law for example. The WHO estimates passive smoking kills 1.3 million people per year, seams very significant.

Support

1. Support as nom.  Carlwev  04:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Iostn (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Major health concept, and Smoking  3 is VA3. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Definitely. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Debian

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I don't think we need any Linux distributions for level 5. If we need a Linux distribution, then ChromeOS would be a better choice.

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Agree with nom, and I'm typing this on a Debian system right now. I personally think our Computer topics need to be cut drastically. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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1. I disagree and think we need at least one Linux OS (except Android (operating system)  4 if you count that) for VA5. Debian is old and big enough to differentiate itself from Linux. 49p (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Per above, and just as I was opposed to removing Ubuntu Iostn (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Makkool (talk) 18:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
4. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
5. Absolutely not. And the idea of not having any Linux distributions at V5 is absurd when Linux  4 is Level 4 and is absolutely widespread enough to have subtopics. λ NegativeMP1 17:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Clinical trial  5

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A basic part of health research.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
2. good suggestion Aurangzebra (talk) 23:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
3. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:06, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 18:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
5. how is this not already included? GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 17:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
6. Definitely. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Military base  5

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A basic type of military infrastructure that's common across the world. See, for example, the ones in List of American military installations.

Support

1. As nom. To fortifications. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 23:19, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Sure.GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
4. Easy support. The Blue Rider 17:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Myspace

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Not as popular as other social media platforms like Facebook, TikTok, Snapchat, and Twitter. We should try to cut down on what social media platforms we list at this level.

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Applying my no-name-brands principle, plus Computer topics need to be cut. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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1. It was extremely important in the early days of the Internet. It may not be as popular now, but removing it based on that would be recentist IMO. 83 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Websites and WikiProject Internet culture. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
2. Per QuicoleJR, MySpace was a pioneer for social media. The Blue Rider 19:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
3. Where it all started. Kevinishere15 (talk) 07:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
4. Oppose. Historically significant to the development of social media. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 17:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
5. Oppose. Vital to the development of all those platforms that came later. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 04:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Psychological trauma

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Important topic that affects lots of people

Support

1. as nom -1ctinus📝🗨 17:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
2. Unfortunately very important for a millions of people around the world. The Blue Rider 18:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
3. Very widespread issue. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
5. Important topic in psychology Mathwriter2718 (talk) 23:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
6. Sure. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 02:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
7. Definitely. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 05:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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