Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hip hop/Archive 5
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Sza listed at Requested moves
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List of awards and nominations received by Drake (musician) listed at Requested moves
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AfD: SoundCloud rap
The article SoundCloud rap is being discussed for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SoundCloud rap to participate in the discussion. --Animalparty! (talk) 18:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
I just created an article for Lil Pump's hit song "Gucci Gang" and is it possible that anyone could help add information to the page to improve it? Thanks Bapreme (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Esham
Esham, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:50, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Turn On the Lights (song) listed at Requested moves
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Eduardo Cabra (Visitante) listed at Requested moves
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Tyler, The Creator listed at Requested moves
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Bodak Yellow
Several(?) anonymous users have repeatedly updated Bodak Yellow over the past few days, apparently in response to social media reports that the song has gone triple platinum in the US. The RIAA source given in the article is dated Aug. 27, and still says "gold". People have repeatedly changed the Wiki article from "gold" to "platinum," but not updated the source cited. (The best I saw was someone posting Cardi B.'s instagram page as a source, which doesn't seem good enough.)
I googled a bit and didn't find anything that looked credible enough to use as a source. I think I'm also done caring about this minor issue, but it bothers me that the page essentially contains a rumor not supported by its citation at this point. Anyone else feel like dealing with this? Thank you. Jessicapierce (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Rap Monster listed at Requested moves
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Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Hip_hop
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 15:54, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
KSI (entertainer) listed at Requested moves
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George Watsky listed at Requested moves
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Climax (Slum Village song) listed at Requested moves
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PTSD (album) listed at Requested moves
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Dreamers (Rizzle Kicks song) listed at Requested moves
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Eminem Album's sales
Hi, I'm having some issues with the List of best-selling albums. I provided both certified and claimed sales with due sources for The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show, but two users keep removing them from the tables, claiming that these numbers are inflated. Can I get help on this page? Thank you. Sumo ch (talk) 13:08, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Fight the Power listed at Requested moves
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You Owe Me listed at Requested moves
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Tommy Boy Records listed at Requested moves
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Tommy Boy Records listed at Requested moves
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Straight Outta Compton listed at Requested moves
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Emo hip hop listed at Requested moves
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Rich Kidd listed at Requested moves
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Tone Lōc listed at Requested moves
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Trap music listed at Requested moves
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Saaheem Valdery listed at Requested moves
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SahBabii listed at Requested moves
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F.A.M.E. (album) listed at Requested moves
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Fake Love listed at Requested moves
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Battle of the Sexes (Ludacris album) listed at Requested moves
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Pusha T listed at Requested moves
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WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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Q-Tip (musician) listed at Requested moves
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Deuce (singer) listed at Requested moves
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Mumble rap vs Soundcloud rap
Why do we have mumble rap redirect to SoundCloud rap when in the second sentence of the latter article it says that mumble rap and soundcloud rap are not the same thing? Inter&anthro (talk) 02:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Kay One (rapper) listed at Requested moves
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SoundCloud rap listed at Requested moves
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Avenue D (band) listed at Requested moves
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Blood on the Dance Floor (band) listed at Requested moves
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In My Feelings (song) listed at Requested moves
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6ix9ine listed at Requested moves
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Astroworld (album) listed at Requested moves
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Fluorescent Black listed at Requested moves
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Facts (Kanye West song) listed at Requested moves
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Classic hip-hop listed at Requested moves
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Apeshit (song) listed at Requested moves
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Run-DMC listed at Requested moves
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Young Sinatra IV listed at Requested moves
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Help needed to improve Dapper Dan (tailor)
I just created Dapper Dan (tailor) upon discovering the subject of the article. First, I can't believe he didn't have one already, so I created the bare bones of an article beyond stub point, but would like help expanding it so it can either reach Good Article status or Featured Article status. I don't care about promoting articles I've created, but I feel this subject is overdue for his place in the spotlight. I've sourced the hell out of it and there is a lot more than can be included from the content of the articles on him (the ref list is about one-third of the article length) and there are hopefully people more knowledgeable than I am who are interested in helping. So I'm reaching out to related WikiProjects, and I particularly need help integrating the article into Wikipedia with appropriate links into other articles. I'm also hoping to find copyright-free photos of either him, his store, or people wearing his clothes that can be used in the article. Thank you! —МандичкаYO 😜 02:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Help on protecting the page
I need help on protecting the page so that only users who want to make useful contributions can edit. Please advise Jakelewis2 (talk) 11:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
RfC on hip house
There is a RfC about the scope of the hip house term at Talk:Hip house#RfC: Is hip house a present day trend? RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
List of murdered hip hop musicians listed at Requested moves
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Is Swop notable?
There's the article Swop, about a fusion of swing and hip hop, but the web search I did (admittedly very cursory) doesn't seem to reveal much coverage. Is this topic notable at all? – Uanfala (talk) 12:50, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Battle rap rating
Hi all,
I tentatively gave Battle rap a start-class, mid-importance rating for hip hop; please feel free to adjust this assessment. Have a great day! Qzekrom 💬 theythem 05:51, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Bhad Bhabie AfDs
Hi WP:Hip hop! Requesting additional editor participation at three Bhad Bhabie singles nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gucci Flip Flops, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hi Bich, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/These Heaux. Two of them have been relisted. Thank you! Leviv ich 18:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm wondering if someone from WP:HH could take a look at this and assess it for notability. I came across the article becuase someone started a discussion at WP:BLPN#MC Pitman about it. The article has been around for awhile, but has pretty much been unsourced the enitre time. I tried to do a bit of WP:BEFORE, but I'm not finding any WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS which might show how he meets WP:BAND or even WP:BIO. Someone posted on the article's talk page that the subject is Wikipedia notable, but none of those things are really relevant to determining notability and the BBC article mentioned is more of an PR fluff type interview than critical coverage in a reliable source. Anyway, I'd figured I'd check here before starting an AfD just in case some is able to find any WP:NEXIST type of coverage. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:36, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Portal:Kesha for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Kesha is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kesha until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 06:34, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Article Soul Intent (group) was deleted
The article about Eminem's first band (Soul Intent) was deleted today. It was proposed for deletion eight days ago. Two users supported its deletion. One was the author of the deletion request. He has been involved in several publishing wars on the article in recent months. The other is a user who is mainly active on articles related to rock music. See here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soul Intent (group) .
As for me, I am not very involved on wikipedia in English because I'm not very comfortable with written English. I missed the deletion request and will neither introduce a Deletion review nor recreate and improve the article. However, I think this article was encyclopedic, notable and correctly sourced.Fleet ch (talk) 17:12, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Adding music video links
I am curious is it standard process to add music video inks to articles, especially to people who don't own the copyright? If it is and this was a good edit someone reverse it please [[1]]. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Requested move
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Fuck It Up (Iggy Azalea song) that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help! P. I. Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 19:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
High Focus Records
Hi,
Any British hip hop fans in here? I created an article on High Focus Records which has been moved to the draft space. Another editor stated it doesn't have enough reputable sources and suggested they may not be notable either.
I feel strongly this is not the case. For those of you who don't know they are, High Focus are an established record label with a UK top 40 album from Ocean Wisdom, five notable members with their own established wiki pages, publicised television theme tune work and two album releases from the global Number 1 selling Rag'n'Bone Man.
Would anyone be willing to help me out with getting it published?
Thanks!
The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 14:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Update: It's been published now, but if anyone wants to help expand it that would still be welcome. Although, sourcing may remain a problem.
Thanks!
Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello i was trying to see how a artist can be added to Wikipedia.He is a artist that is known in the emo rap and hiphop community. His name is "Shay Bxxgie" he is notable on the internet and has over a million streams and multiple news source write ups. New to this but if anybody could give me a answer please email me at shamusgoss3@gmail.com Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaybxxgie (talk • contribs) 05:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. I created this new article, but there are two slight inconsistencies in the sources. Can you help with this discussion, please? Bearian (talk) 22:20, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Draft: Revelation 13:18
Hello Nice to meet you all in the Wikipedia Hip Hop Community I would appreciate your feedback on the article draft: Revelation 13:18 (rapper) can you look at the article and make edits and corrections to the sources and written marterial per Wikipedia specifications so it can be stripped down so the reviewer doesn't have to wade through allot of unnecessary information to make it easier on the reviewer doing the submission process for the article to go live on mainspace. I would appreciate your contribution to the article and the Wikipedia Hip Hop Community. Thanks Allot For Your Time
Draft: Revelation 13:18 (rapper)
Hello Nice to meet you all in the Wikipedia Hip Hop Community I would appreciate your feedback on the article draft: Revelation 13:18 (rapper) can you look at the article and make edits and corrections to the sources and written marterial per Wikipedia specifications so it can be stripped down so the reviewer doesn't have to wade through allot of unnecessary information to make it easier on the reviewer doing the submission process for the article to go live on mainspace. I would appreciate your contribution to the article and the Wikipedia Hip Hop Community. Thanks Allot For Your Time KplusWequalsU (talk) 01:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Proposal of interest
Members of this WikiProject and anybody who works on music-related articles might be interested in a proposal I've started. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
The above reassessment has been initiated. Anybody who reads it is free to leave input. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Juice Wrld GAN
I got a reviewer for this last month, but they abandoned it due to IRL complications, and while I admit I have not been on much and made only one other edit in the last week, I was wondering if anyone was interested in helping me finish this review before the year is over. (I had exams to do for school)
I also have a question on a bunch of the original reviewer's comments - does MOS:QWQ really apply to ref titles? I thought those were to be added literally how the publication put it. I don't see anything saying that is a necessary part of being a GA. Maybe FA, but I think that's an excessive request for the green marker.
Also crossposting on WP:Musicians for help. dannymusiceditor oops 22:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Savage (song) has an RFC
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Let's try to get citations and save this stub. Ping me please. Bearian (talk) 21:28, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Lana Del Rey has an RFC
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Edits for review please
I saw some recent edits on rap but I fear that some of them may be crap. This IP now has a one-year block and it smells like a suspected sock. An expert look at their work wouldn't hurt as some of them may need a quick revert. I'd be grateful if someone could cast an eye and restore what's lost or just DENY. Certes (talk) 12:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Jonny Shipes
Hi. I submitted Draft:Jonny Shipes for review more than two months ago as a conflict of interest editor. (He's a friend of a friend.) It needs a history merge -- an editor submitted an article on Shipes that was hypey, unreferenced, and inappropriate in 2016 (and kept removing the decline templates) and Shipes was eventually created as a redirect to his label, Cinematic Music Group. He signed Nipsey Hussle, Joey Bada$$, Sean Kingston, Big K.R.I.T and others and there are a ton of references. Thanks. JSFarman2 (talk) 20:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC
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Please Help With The Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement / Help Rebuild The Hip Hop Movement Page
There was a small article piece in Hip Hop that had been there for 6 years and a picture of former Zulu Nation Member Ron "Bee-Stinger" Savage who coin the term Six Elements Of The Hip Hop Movement all this info came out after the alleged story in 2016. Hip Hop Pioneer Busy Bee publicly confirmed the Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement, as well Ronald Savage -aka-Bee-Stinger is the registered owner of the trademark/service mark Hip Hop Movement which is listed it also states the Six elements of the Hip Hop Movement. This one user came along after 6 years and deleted this small piece that stated:
"In 1990, while working with the rap pop group Snap!, Ronald "Bee-Stinger" Savage carved the term six elements of the hip hop movement. These six elements are: consciousness awareness, civil rights awareness, activism awareness, justice, political awareness, community awareness."
along with it's refs: Even had the Credible Book Author Eric Reese who wrote 51 books already. you can go on the internet and clearly see the Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement, even Jay Z made ref's in an interview to it which is one of my refs,
The History of Hip Hop vol #2 –Eric Reese - 2019 https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_History_of_Hip_Hop/NMSKDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=six+elements+of+the+hip+hop+movement&pg=PT5&printsec=frontcover
The History of Hip Hop Collectionbooks.google.com › books Eric Reese • 2020 https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_History_of_Hip_Hop_Collection/D232DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=six+elements+of+the+hip+hop+movement&pg=PT88&printsec=frontcover
Impulse Urges And Fantasies – 2014 Ronald Savage life story https://www.google.com/books/edition/IMPULSE_URGES_AND_FANTASIES/GL-1DAEACAAJ?hl=en
https://www.iamhiphopmagazine.com/news-ronald-savage-the-hip-hop-movement
https://parkchestertimes.com/ronald-savage-better-known-as-bee-stinger-trademarks-hip-hop-movement
https://www.doggiediamondstv.com/ron-savage-busy-bee-acquire-hip-hop-movement-trademark
https://www.birthofhiphop.com/jay-z-with-dean-baquet/</ref></ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?
The daily news story has a picture of his book which in the book he tells you how he coins the term Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement
This is Busy bee and Ron Savage on Doggie Diamond Show, and below that is Sway in The Morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9f0jGPYFXk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Xz50h-u78&t=1025s18:28 15:28-18:28
</ref></ref>6:00-6:51</ref></ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9f0jGPYFXk</ref>
These are the ref's and only 1 person PIOTR JR came long and said it doesn't belong in the lead, Then Robjwev stated He will put it back and He will leave it in place and PIOTR JR told him NO don't put it back it should have been deleted a long time ago and then PIOTR went over and just put hip hop movement up for deletion and used both his names isento is his redirect name to do it. He went to Ronald Savage page and started just deleting things without even looking at the refs, who I had to blow him up because he said this stuff was not in the daily news and the records he made were only on Amazon After I PROVIDED HIM WRONG about everything he said I put it back and he was like oh he didn't see it. This all seems personal and i think it's vaandalisms, I even was thinking maybe PIOTR knows this Ron "Bee-Stinger" Savage guy or maybe PIOTR may be from the Zulu Nation whatever it is for someone to go that hard on 1 man 3 pages is kinda strange and use both your names so it can look like more people.
So i wrote the Six Elements of Hip Hop over and added a little to it with the same refs, and it's funny how after i rewrote it PIOTR has not said a word only one person again, it makes me think is that PIOTR as well, it's only that one person that said something about the new one MrOllie:
In 1990, Ron "Bee-Stinger" Savage, a former member of the Zulu Nation, (Savage is known as the son of the Hip Hop Movement) while working with the hip hop group Snap is credited with coining the term "Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement" being inspired by Public Enemy's rap conscious style recordings. In 2017 The Chief Rocker Busy Bee stated “Hip Hop Movement is a term that has been used throughout the past for several decades but it has never been used in an official capacity. Through our efforts, the term and its language will have new meaning" Busy Bee and Ron “Bee-Stinger” Savage that hip hop movement is trademarked now as well as the logo so this is going to be new to them as well as everyone else after so long of hip hop movement not having legal meaning and ownership. Busy Bee and Bee-Stinger stated "that Hip Hop and Rap are two different things and when artist are recording and talking about shooting guns, disrespecting women, and selling drugs in there records that is not a part of the hip hop movement or hip hop". The official “Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement" are: Consciousness Awareness, Civil Rights Awareness, Activism Awareness, Justice, Political Awareness, and Community Awareness in music.
Want to see what you all think of the two different ones and you have the refs as well, I wanted to put it back at the end of the lead as it has been there the last 6 years and 11 refs. Street sting (talk) 02:22, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
HIP HOP MOVEMENT
I also started a new Hip Hop Movement page that maybe we all can do together, the old one you see can see it in the files.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hip_Hop_Movement Street sting (talk) 02:30, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
One last thing time, ask google type in search: six elements of the hip hop movement
If you have Amazon Alexa: Ask Alexa what are the six elements of the hip hop movement
I'm just saying all team because 1 person but all the facts speak for themselves. Street sting (talk) 05:15, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
———————————————————————————————————————————————→ I need advice on the draft hip hop movement page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hip_Hop_Movement
in the section - The Movement Was About The DJ's In The Early Days of The '70s of The Hip Hop Movement
I'm writing about three old school DJ's that helped build a movement in hip hop which everyone in hip hop knows these 3 DJ's, how long should I make the sentences of each DJ, and after I'm done with that in the same section is it a good idea to write something these or make a new section, what I'm trying to do is how this movement went from back in the days started with the DJ's who were the ones bring in the people to hear them chop up the records making everyone come to the jams to dance, and building it up to what it is today with the civil rights movement are intertwine with rap lyrics and rappers involved in politics and civil rights making the hip hop movement the new civil rights movement through rapping and having its own elements. because we all know hip hop culture and hip hop movement are two different things. Hip Hop Culture is something you live and the hip hop movement has become the new civil rights movement through rapping politically in your lyrics to make a change in the world like MC Common, Public Enemy, and so on.
Requested move at Talk:Luther Campbell#Requested move 11 August 2021
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Cardi B has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. shanghai.talk to me 03:39, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Jewell (singer) nominated for deletion
Jewell (singer) has been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewell (singer). If anyone can improve the article with additional reliable sources, please do so. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:09, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Asian American hip hop
Is there a particular MOS that I should follow for Asian American hip hop? I'm not really sure if the page is intended for hip hop music or culture, but as of now, it's just a loose collection of summaries of notable Asian American hip hop artists. Saying that it's a musical genre seems kind of iffy because there is no throughline outside of their ethnic background (unless there is and I haven't found the right source yet) — BriefEdits (talk) 18:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Please help create the page for the new Pusha T album
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:It%27s_Almost_Dry_(Album) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ackner2 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
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Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG. Marchjuly (talk) 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Late Registration peer review
I have had a peer review open for this article since nearly two months ago, but nobody has picked it up. Does anyone have any comments to leave? --K. Peake 20:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
All You Need Is Love (JAMs song) Featured article review
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Requested move at Stop the Violence Movement
Hi all, there's a requested move at Talk:Stop the Violence Movement#Requested move 7 July 2022 that I think would be of interest to members of this WikiProject. If anyone has an opinion on the request, I encourage them to join the discussion there. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:MadGibbs#Requested move 6 July 2022
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Requested move at Talk:4 Da Gang#Requested move 26 October 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:4 Da Gang#Requested move 26 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 16:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Looking for feedback: Elliot Grainge draft
Hi. I created a draft article for music executive Elliot Grainge in my sandbox here: [2]. I’m a new Wikipedia user, and work for Elliot, which I understand is a conflict of interest according to Wikipedia policy, so I need feedback on how to improve the draft from independent editors and make sure it’s following the proper structure and guidelines. Is someone from this project available to take a look and provide feedback/comments? Thanks.Musicfan100 (talk) 14:28, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Merger proposal at Talk:Latin hip hop#Merger proposal (2022)
There is a merge proposal at Talk:Latin hip hop#Merger proposal (2022) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Help/feedback on Chi Modu draft
Draft:Chi Modu, photographer to the hip hop stars, has been recreated after some UPE and help desk drama. I know nothing about hip hop, but the guy does seem to be notable, so I thought I'd ask if anyone here was willing to chip in and help guide it to mainspace legitimately. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:43, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Chicago Hip-Hop heavily lacking articles
I have observed that the Chicago Hip Hop scene is significantly underrepresented on Wikipedia in comparison to other cities. If anyone is interested in collaborating with me to create and update articles for notable artists and industry professionals from the Chicago scene, please feel free to contact me. Prowriter357 (talk) 18:13, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello my friends
Hi to my fellow Hip Hop enthusiasts. I would like some help with the article $teven Cannon in regards to getting the article up to community standards. I would also like to hear some outside perspective in regards to the validity of the sources I included. Officialangrydub (talk) 01:48, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Project-independent quality assessments
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Help Bringing a Page on the Awesome II to Community Standards
Hi Folks. Excited to have found this project. I recently wrote a book on the history of rap radio in New York (Duke UP, Fall 2022) based on my ph.d dissertation (Yale, 2019), and I'd like to publish a Wikipedia entry on two individuals who were critical in the early history of hip hop, the Awesome II. The Awesome II have hosted the longest running radio program in hip-hop history (1981-Present), and were instrumental in spreading the genre in and beyond NYC. I've submitted an article (now under request for undeletion) 3 times, only to be told that my research doesn't count as sufficient, and that my primary sources don't meet Wikipedia's criteria. This has been frustrating. The last time I asked why, I did not receive a response. I'm hoping that asking for clarification in this project will help me get this article up to publication standards. It's hard to overstate just how much the Awesome II contributed to hip hop.
I've pasted the question I previously posted before for reference:
"I'm asking for clarification as to why a submission (Awesome Two) isn't meeting the requirement for notability, and help getting it up to standard. I've included citations from numerous contemporary sources (Billboard, Village Voice, Vibe, and Black Radio Exclusive) that are more than passing mentions, as well as evidence of historical import from coverage in histories, documentaries, and mentions references in song lyrics and on album covers (should satisfy this criterion: 1.) Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture).
As producers, the duo has sufficient production credits in their name to satisfy these criteria, "Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable music genre; The recording was in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network."
Please advise on the status of these sources, and ways I can adjust the article to meet Wikipedia's standards.
One further question about sources: I wrote my Ph.D dissertation on the history of rap radio, and interviewed the Awesome II and their peers numerous times. I wrote a long chapter about their career and influence. I was told that my Ph.D dissertation does not count as a source (though this is Wikipedia's stance on the matter: Completed dissertations or theses written as part of the requirements for a PhD, and which are publicly available, are considered publications by scholars and are routinely cited in footnotes. They have been vetted by the scholarly community; most are available via interlibrary loan or from Proquest), and so removed the citation. I currently have a book on this history of rap radio in contract with Duke University Press with a full chapter devoted to the Awesome II. Do forthcoming works count as sources?
The Awesome II have made incalculable contribution to hip hop music. Please help me meet this communities guidelines." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfklaess (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I've been preparing this article for GA and would appreciate any feedback. It failed GA last year, but I've since addressed all the problems laid out by the reviewer. ––FormalDude (talk) 11:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Currently a redirect to Crich (disambiguation) where he is linked to one of his 4 mentions in Wikipedia. I know nothing about this field but someone might like to look at him. Here's an article on him. Over to you (I created the dab page and it's on my watchlist, that's how I saw this). PamD 07:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
RockabillyRaccoon
A user called RockabillyRaccoon seems to think that Rap metal and Punk rap aren't subgenres of Rap rock. This makes no sense because they're each subgenres, respectively, of Heavy metal and Punk rock, both of which themselves are subgenres of Rock music. Therefore, Rap metal and Punk rap should be subgenres of Rap rock. Could someone try and set this user straight. 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:E400:4C15:61F0:5374 (talk) 00:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Tell Em#Requested move 14 July 2023
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Template:HH Announcements
Hi all, I started a discussion at Template talk:HH Announcements that might be of interest to people in this WikiProject. In short, I'm proposing that we remove older entries from the Announcements template in order to improve the readability of the WikiProject page. If you have any opinions on the matter, please feel free to chime in at the template's talk page. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:25, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Floyd
why is George Floyd in the scope of this project? Michael H (talk) 12:12, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- During the 1990s and early 2000s, he performed as a rapper under the stage name Big Floyd. This aspect of his life isn't directly connected to Floyd's notability; however, after his death, several pieces were published that discussed Floyd's music, and there's a brief but well-sourced paragraph about his rap career in the "Adult life" section of his article. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- got it, thx Michael H (talk) 14:58, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Trippie Redd
Hey, there. There's a discussion on how we should format the lead section for the Trippie Redd article. It can be found at Talk:Trippie Redd#Lead section. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:22, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Ren (British musician)#Requested move 21 August 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ren (British musician)#Requested move 21 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Edit war happening, thoughts needed
On the page Billy Woods, the faceless rapper, there is a photograph of him performing at a concert. I believe this picture should be shown on Wikipedia as per Wikipedia:UNCENSORED. Other editors, both IP and registered users, have removed this image as Billy Woods tries to remain faceless. These edits aren’t often, so the 3 revert policy isn’t afficiated.
If you have ideas, I would like help. Roasted (talk) 23:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- This is a topic I've been mulling over as well; I've been struggling to decide my own stance on it. On the one hand, the WP:UNCENSORED argument is a strong one in favor of including the photo; on the other hand, this is a WP:BLP article, and the subject's likeness is a piece of potentially identifying information that he's on record as not wanting publicized. If anyone has experience in how those concerns have historically been weighed against each other, I'd be happy to learn more. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 22:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Since this discussion doesn't seem to have generated much attention, I've brought up the topic at WP:BLPN#Billy Woods to solicit input from a wider pool of users. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
m y cool draft!!!! what do w e think
I have started a discussion at WikiProject Discographies which users of this WikiProject might want to contribute to. You can see and contribute to the discussion here. Thanks, -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 04:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Camara Kambon draft - open for feedback
Hi there, this article about one of the composers behind Mary J Blige, Dr Dre, Eminem, etc is waiting review since a couple of months. It has been marked with GA status. Please advice if there is anything that needs improvement, or if I should just be patient and wait.
Draft:Camara Kambon AnamSoul (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Back That Thang Up#Requested_move_14_May_2024
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To address issues with this article's length, I have opened a discussion at Talk:Illmatic#Split proposal that may be of interest to this WikiProject. — 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 01:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Shoop (song)#Requested move 18 June 2024
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The Notorious B.I.G. nominated at FAR
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Draft ready for review
Hi all, if anyone has the time and inclination to do an AfC review, I'd appreciate getting some eyes on Draft:Alligator Bites Never Heal. It was previously declined once (before the mixtape was released) but has been edited substantially since then. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Fe!n#Requested move 30 August 2024
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