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AutoCheck report for January

The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment:

• 811th Lachin Alpine Rifle Regiment Seems okay. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Alan B. Banister B2 would seem to be no, issues with format. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• Al-Jazira (caliphal province) Confirmed. Parsecboy (talk) 14:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Anar Aliyev B class. Just about. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
• Archibald H. Sunderland B class retained. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:40, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Aslan Byutukayev Looks like a C to me. Hog Farm _Talk 23:29, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
• Attacks on Likošane and Ćirez Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 07:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Brașov B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Coronate B3 = no, no structure. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Đức Cơ B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Fair Oaks & Darbytown Road Start-class, just orbats with no real context or body section. Hog Farm _Talk 21:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Fontenay-le-Comte B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Fort Blakeley B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Glenlivet B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Gosselies downgraded to start. Zawed (talk) 08:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Haddon Rig Start-class. Big mess on several levels. Hog Farm _Talk 01:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Iminenas downgraded -- missing an Aftermath and the structure needs work; the paragraphs should be split for readability. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Kolding (1644) downgraded to start, only one source. Zawed (talk) 08:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Lautulae Confirmed. Parsecboy (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Mallavelly B1 = no; mostly from a single 1861 source. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:44, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Merida pocket moved and downgraded - coverage needs expansion for B class, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Mollwitz confirmed as B. Zawed (talk) 20:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Mons Seleucus downgraded to C, lack of coverage of battle fails B2. Zawed (talk) 20:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Poplar Grove downgraded to C class; coverage needs expansion for B class, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Rio Grande City One source, b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 23:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Rocquencourt Downgraded, b1 not met, all cited to a single, dated source. Zawed (talk) 20:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Save B1 = no, largely based on an unreliable source. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:53, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Sindhuli downgraded, missing too much -- needs a complete battle and aftermath section for B class, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Soissons (923) B2 = no, incomplete. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Suessula no, over-dependant on a primary source. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Svay Rieng C, no background section.--Catlemur (talk) 20:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of the Sacramento River Fails B1 and B2; start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of the Saline River Fails B1 and B2; start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of the Western Isles B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Zboriv (1649) start class. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Battle on the Irpin River B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Belize Defence Force Air Wing Start.--Catlemur (talk) 15:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Berry Gazi downgraded to start - coverage/sourcing problematic. Zawed (talk) 20:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Berry Gazi duplicate of above. Zawed (talk) 20:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Betty Olsen confirmed as B. Zawed (talk) 21:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Borisoglebsk 2 downgraded to start, fails B3, B4. Zawed (talk) 21:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Borrego Valley Manuever Area b2=no. Hog Farm _Talk 18:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Brak al-Shati Airbase raid B3 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Brigada Specială de Intervenție a Jandarmeriei downgraded to start class. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• BRP Waray (LC-288) Fails B2 and B3; start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 11:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Bryan Dutton B class. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Bummers B2 - no, too many quotations. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Burmese–Siamese War (1662–1664) B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Camp Merritt, New Jersey B class. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Deir ez-Zor Military Council downgraded, wanting of some tying together of paragraphs and perhaps context. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
• Donald Gosling Not complete, stuff in infobox not cited anywhere. Start-class. Hog Farm _Talk 00:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
• Donatien Mahele Lieko Bokungu Start.--Catlemur (talk) 15:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Dringhouses Yard Not (IMO) a MilHist article. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Equestrian statue of Charles Devens Confirmed. Hog Farm _Talk 06:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Firefly (Taiping Rebellion steamer) Start.--Catlemur (talk) 18:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
• Four Ds Confirmed. Parsecboy (talk) 14:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• German torpedo boat TA37 B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Harry L. Steele confirmed Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• Hemming Gadd Start.--Catlemur (talk) 16:35, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Augusta (1763) C-class, fails B2. Parsecboy (talk) 14:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Cottesmore (L78) confirmed. Zawed (talk) 21:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Easton LGTM. Hog Farm _Talk 06:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Galatea (F18) C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Hebe (J24) downgraded to C class, with a couple of additions. Probably needs more detail in the career section for B class, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Sable (1916) B-class. Zawed (talk) 08:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Hong Kong during World War I Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 23:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• John Hext B1 not met, tagged for sourcing issue Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• K. L. Kulkarni Start.--Catlemur (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
• Karam Mustafayev B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
• Kraljevica-class patrol boat Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Li Guang (born 1914) B class. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
• Mary Greenhow Lee looks good to me Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• N. P. Datta downgraded to Start class; lead needs expansion and there are missing details regarding date of birth, schooling and service between 1944-1947 that need rectification for B class, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Padgett-Thomas Barracks down to C, over B2 concerns. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• Siege of Tortosa (808–809) B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• SMS S16 (1912) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Terminology of the Armenian Genocide Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
• Treaties of Rome (1941) appears to be B class to me, although I wouldn't say I know the topic area well so if others disagree please feel free to adjust as required. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Yasuhiko Kuroe C class.--Catlemur (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

MilHistBot (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Book Review re WWI/Gallipoli Campaign

I have a book review of a new New Zealand Defence Force book on the NZEF in the Gallipoli Campaign, irf someone wants to consider it Hugo999 (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

G'day Hugo999, @Nick-D and Ian Rose: would be happy to look at it for a future issue of The Bugle if you can link to it. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Please see my Sandbox page for book review. Hugo999 (talk) 13:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

@Nick-D and Ian Rose: can this be archived? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I think that we might have missed this one. @Hugo999: Sorry about this! Could you please post a direct link to the review? Nick-D (talk) 09:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Nick-D, I think the book is this one. A review is here (on page 8) and news items about the book are here and here. Zawed (talk) 08:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

It looks like Hugo999 (talk · contribs) wrote a review which we missed. I can't see it at User:Hugo999/Sandbox Nick-D (talk) 09:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Odd, that Sandbox page hasn't been edited since 2014. Zawed (talk) 09:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Zawed and Nick-D: - I'm a little late to the party, but the book review seems to be at User:Hugo999/sandbox#Book_Review. Hog Farm _Talk 02:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Excellent, I've just posted this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2021/Book reviews - @Hugo999: Nick-D (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

AutoCheck report for February

The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment. If you have a few free minutes, please check the assessment, strike it once done, and note the rating alongside the article if you have downgraded it from B:

• 10.5 cm Kanone C/85 C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• 105 mm Armata wz. 29 C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• 10th Texas Field Battery Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• 118th Rifle Division C-class, some uncited material. Zawed (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• 120 mm Armata wz. 78/09/31 Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• 12th Motorised Brigade (South Africa) C-class, sourcing may be unreliable. Zawed (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• 1996 Docklands bombing Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• 1st Cavalry Brigade (France) C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• 2020 Salvadoran political crisis would seem more or less B Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• 2021 Myanmar coup d'état Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:24, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• 5th Royal Lancashire Militia B1=no, cites a wordpress site. C Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• 6th Air Group Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• 6th Royal Lancashire Militia Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• 75th Ohio Infantry Regiment b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 20:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• 7th Royal Lancashire Militia (Rifles) Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• 88th Separate Rifle Brigade b1=no, needs more cites Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Ackerman Boat Company start, b1 and 2, needs ce Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Adam Ferguson (British Army officer) downgraded to start - needs a significant CE to pass B4. Concerned about sourcing too. Zawed (talk) 21:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Agdaban massacre Redlink.--Catlemur (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
• Agnieszka Dowbor-Muśnicka downgraded on B2, needs a little of content. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• Amir Kazim Mirza Qajar downgraded on B1 and B4 to start, may not meet B2 either Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Assassination of Laurent-Désiré Kabila Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 23:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• August Myhrberg B.--Catlemur (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Avro Lancaster FM213 Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Babakale Castle Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Humera Incomplete--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:05, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Mariel Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Sondani downgraded, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• Battle of Tampico (1829) LGTM Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Battle-Cry (Milton Bradley game) C, doesn't seem comprehensive
• Bo Varenius Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Brazilian Military Junta of 1930 Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Caleb Grafton Roberts confirm as B-class. Zawed (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Canton Operation Incomplete--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Carl von Horn (1903–1989) Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Carlow Castle downgraded to C-class, needs more content. Zawed (talk) 21:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Carrigaphooca Castle confirmed as B-class. Zawed (talk) 21:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cathcart Wight-Boycott downgraded to C-class; DOD uncited. Zawed (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Catherine Dior Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cavalry Barracks, Hounslow Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chang Do-yong downgraded to C-class, needs more content. Zawed (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Burlingame Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Justin Bailey downgraded to start - structure needs work. Zawed (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Knowles (British Army officer) downgraded to C-class. DOB/DOD uncited. Zawed (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Saunders (Royal Navy officer) confirmed as B-class. Zawed (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Stickland Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charles Thanaron B1=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Charlie Hutchison B1=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Château de Germolles b1, B4=no; start class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chelsea Barracks Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chelsea Pensioners reading the Waterloo Dispatch B1=no, no inline cites; C-class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chen Jiongming B1=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chen Lin (Ming dynasty) B2=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chen Tianhua Confirmed. Short but not unreasonably so Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cherbourg Naval Base B1=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chewang Rinchen C-class Parsecboy (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chief Makhanda Regiment B1=no; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chief of Naval Personnel Start. Bits of uncited text, not enough information, structure needs work. Hog Farm _Talk 01:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chief of Staff of the French Air and Space Force Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:12, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

* Chief of Staff of the French Army Start class. Uncited paragraphs and missing detail. Hog Farm _Talk 01:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• Chikadibia Isaac Obiakor C-class Parsecboy (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chilean submarine Rucumilla - Start class. Parsecboy (talk) 01:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chinese corvette Kwan Chia Start class. Parsecboy (talk) 01:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chinese reusable experimental spacecraft C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Chirag Gala Start class.--Catlemur (talk) 20:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chiragov and Others v. Armenia C class. Citation problems and structure. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
• Chocolate Mountain Aerial Gunnery Range downgraded for coverage and structure. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
• Choe Kwang C. The bulk of the article is unreferenced. Biography section only covers career. Darwin Naz (talk) 11:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Chongtong Start class.--Catlemur (talk) 20:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chris Barrie (admiral) Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Christian the Younger of Brunswick b1=no. Zero inline citations. Hog Farm _Talk 01:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christmas tree (aviation) Not fully cited--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Birdwood, 2nd Baron Birdwood downgraded, doesn't yet meet B1 or B2, IMO. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher C. Miller confirm as B. Zawed (talk) 09:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Deverell confirm as B. Zawed (talk) 09:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Middleton (navigator) downgrade to start, B1, B2, not met. Zawed (talk) 09:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Morris (photographer)
• Christopher Pugsley downgraded to start, not enough content, some of what is there is uncited. Zawed (talk) 00:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Raymond Perry downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Thomson, 1st Baron Thomson downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Christopher Wallace (British Army officer) confirm as B. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chuck Horner downgraded to C class; doesn't meet B class referencing requirements. AustralianRupert (talk) 05:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Chuhuiv Non MILHIST.--Catlemur (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Ciompi Revolt B.--Catlemur (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Citation Star b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 00:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• City of London Signals Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• City of Norwich Aviation Museum start class Hog Farm _Talk 00:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• City walls of Nuremberg b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 00:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Civic action program start class Hog Farm _Talk 00:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Civil Actions Medal start class, IMO. Hog Farm _Talk 00:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Civil Defence Forces Confirmed Class B. ミラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 15:50, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• Civil Engineer Corps start class. Hog Farm _Talk 18:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cizre operation (2015) start class. Hog Farm _Talk 18:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Clarence Page Townsley downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 10:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Claude C. Bloch start class. Hog Farm _Talk 18:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Claude Lecomte b1=no, doesn't quite seem complete, either. Hog Farm _Talk 18:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Claude Liardet confirm as B. Zawed (talk) 10:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Claude Louis Petiet down to start, referencing, content issues. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cleante Davidoglu B1=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cliffs Victory B1, B2=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• CMS-2 B1=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cniva B1=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Coastal Forces of the Royal Canadian Navy Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Coffeyville Army Air Field zero inline citations, downgraded. Hog Farm _Talk 02:24, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• College of Air Warfare Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Colombo Racecourse Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Colonel Jesus Villamor Air Base Neither fully cited, nor complete--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Colquhoun Grant (British intelligence officer) Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:35, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• Column of Arcadius Fails B1--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:36, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comanche campaign C class. needs citations. Darwin Naz (talk) 12:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
• Combat Logistics Battalion 15 downgraded; doesn't meet referencing requirements. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combat Logistics Battalion 31 downgraded; doesn't meet referencing requirements. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combat Logistics Regiment 27 downgraded; doesn't meet referencing requirements. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:50, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combat of the Côa start-class. Hog Farm _Talk 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combat Skyspot referencing problems. Hog Farm _Talk 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combat systems officer start-class. Hog Farm _Talk 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Combined Security Transition Command – Afghanistan start-class. Hog Farm _Talk 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Command at Sea insignia start class. Hog Farm _Talk 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Command center start, take your pick of problems. Hog Farm _Talk 01:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Commander (order) start, Hog Farm _Talk 01:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Commander Fleet Operational Sea Training Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Commander, Naval Forces Vietnam Not fully cited--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Commander, Navy Installations Command start class. Uncited text, doesn't seem complete to me, and has a bulleted list that should be prose. Hog Farm _Talk 03:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Commerce de Paris-class ship of the line start class. Hog Farm _Talk 03:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Commodore-in-Charge, Algiers start class. Hog Farm _Talk 03:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Compagnie d'ordonnance b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 03:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Companions of William the Conqueror Fails B1--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:32, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• Condottieri-class cruiser Fails B1 and B2, Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Confederate Private Monument B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Confederate States Secretary of War Fails B1 and B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Congress of Châtillon Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:19, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Coningsby Dawson downgrade to start, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Conrad Lally downgrade to C, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Considerations on the Propriety of Imposing Taxes in the British Colonies Confirmed. Parsecboy (talk) 22:34, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Constantin Cristescu downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Constantin Sănătescu downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Constantino of Braganza Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Convoy commodore start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Convoy ON 166 Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Convoy SC 104 Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Convoy SC 130 Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cornelius Rea Agnew C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Corporate Training Unlimited B5=no; Start class. -Cdjp1 (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cosme Damián de Churruca y Elorza Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cosmos-class submarine Not complete, C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Counterattack Confirmed Class B. ミラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 15:45, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• County of Empúries Not MilHist at all--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cowbridge town wall B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Craney Island (Virginia) Not fully cited.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Crater Lake–Klamath Regional Airport Not fully cited.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cubic Corporation C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cuirassiers Regiment (Italy) Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Culinary specialist (United States Navy)
• Cyber and Information Domain Service (Germany) B class. -Cdjp1 (talk) 17:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cyprus Emergency Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Cyriades Downgrade to start, fails B1, B2. Zawed (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Cyriaque Gillain Downgrade to C, B1 not met.
• Cyril Biddulph Downgrade to start, fails B1, B2. Zawed (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Czechoslovak 11th Infantry Battalion Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Czechoslovak Legion in Italy downgraded. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:09, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Da yuan shuai Downgrade to start, fails B1, B2. Zawed (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dagnum Downgrade to start, fails B1, B2. Zawed (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dalforce Downgrade to C, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dámaso Berenguer Downgrade to start, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Damen Stan patrol vessel Downgrade to start, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Daniel Burges DOB, DOD uncited so B1 no, downgrade to C. Zawed (talk) 02:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Daniel J. Miller B2 no, downgrade to C. Zawed (talk) 02:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Daniel Knox, 6th Earl of Ranfurly B1, B2 both no, downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 02:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Dankwarderode Castle B1, B2 both no, downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 01:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Daraa Governorate campaign none of B1 to B4 met; looks more like a list than anything else. Downgrade to a stub. Zawed (talk) 01:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Daraa offensive (January 2015) - Start.--Catlemur (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• DARPA Captive Air Amphibious Transporter B2, B3, both no. Downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 01:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Darren Manzella B1, B2, both no. Downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 01:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Darryl Greenamyer B1, B2, both no. Downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 01:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Datis C, fails B1.--Catlemur (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
• David H. Huntoon start class Hog Farm _Talk 23:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Henry Hamilton Non-MILHIST. Noncom in CSA with nothing of note, notability comes from being a politician Hog Farm _Talk 23:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Ince incomplete, body uses only one source. b1=no, b2=no. Hog Farm _Talk 23:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Johnston (admiral) B2 = no, downgrade to C. Zawed (talk) 01:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• David King Murray, Lord Birnam Not MILHIST, noncom in the Naval Reserve isn't enough, military service barely mentioned in article. Hog Farm _Talk 23:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Mitchell (Royal Navy officer) B1, B3 both no. Downgrade to start. Zawed (talk) 01:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Moore Crook b1=no, b2=no. Hog Farm _Talk 03:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• David Poyer b1=no, b2=no, not entirely sure it's even that much MILHIST given the current article content. Hog Farm _Talk 03:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• David R. Kingsley b1=no, and I think b2=no as well. Hog Farm _Talk 03:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• David S. Hall (RFC officer) Confirmed as B. Zawed (talk) 01:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• David W. Gay b1=no, b2=no Hog Farm _Talk 03:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Davis Guards Medal
• Dawn of Freedom Brigades Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Day of Daggers b1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 15:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• De la Gardie campaign - Start.--Catlemur (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Decoration Honor of Naval Merit Commander Peter Campbell
• Defence (1735 EIC ship) C. Hog Farm _Talk 17:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Defenders of the Homeland start. Hog Farm _Talk 17:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Defense Manpower Data Center start. Hog Farm _Talk 17:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Deir ez-Zor offensive (December 2014)
• Demarcation line (France) start. Hog Farm _Talk 17:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Demensio Rivera B1=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Deming Bronson Downgraded to C. Lacks references. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• Demobilisation of the British Armed Forces after the Second World War start class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Demyan Bedny start Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Denis Eadie Confirmed. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
• Denis Earp B2= no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Denis Mercier B1=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Denis Pack start class. Hog Farm _Talk 01:32, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• Department of the Gulf incomplete. Hog Farm _Talk 01:32, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
• Derek Lang C class. Darwin Naz (talk) 12:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Deryck Stapleton Downgraded to Start class, fails b2 and b5. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• Desmond Morton (historian) B1 +B2 = no --... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Desmond Smith (general) B2=no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Destroyer minesweeper Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Deva Bandhumasena Start, needs CE + other language article indicates incomplete Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Dewan Mokham Chand C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:38, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dholpur Military School start-- take your pick of issues Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Dhondia Wagh. Confirmed. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Diane E. Beaver C class. Darwin Naz (talk) 12:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dick Moore (Royal Navy officer) b1=no, entire unsourced sections. Hog Farm _Talk 03:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Diego Ortiz Parrilla. Confirmed. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Diet Eman
• Ditch (fortification) Fails B1 and B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Diving plane start class. Hog Farm _Talk 01:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Divisional general start. Hog Farm _Talk 01:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Diyarbakır Fortress
• Dmitry Ivanovich Popov Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Dmitry Lelyushenko Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• DMS Maritime
• Domenico Rossi (general) Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Domingo Arrieta León Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Domingo French Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Don Steinbrunner Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Donald Conroy Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Donald Easten Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk)
• Donald Ethell Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk)
• Đồng Tâm Base Camp Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk)
• Dong Xian C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dongfeng Mengshi start class. Hog Farm _Talk 14:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Doorwerth Castle Almost completely lacks inline citations, surprised the bot didn't catch that. Hog Farm _Talk 05:50, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Dorset County Division B.--Catlemur (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Douglas Hacking, 1st Baron Hacking C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:41, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Douglas House, London b1=no, b2=no. Hog Farm _Talk 05:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
• Douglas Lowe (RAF officer) C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Dov Yermiya C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Downing Street mortar attack B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Draper Kauffman C, b1=no.--Catlemur (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• DRASH Start, b1=no, b2=no.--Catlemur (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
• Driver-class sloop B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Du Sengming
• DZ203 Confirmed. Parsecboy (talk) 22:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Edmund Waller Not in scope. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Edward Henry Burke Cooper Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Erich Loewenhardt Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• First Battle of the Issers Fails B1 & B4; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Folke Rehnström B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Frank E. Garretson Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• French destroyer Ouragan Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Garde communale Fails B2 & B4; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Gennady Zhidko Fails B1 & B4; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• German torpedo boat TA24 B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Green Leader Confirmed. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Guards of Honour (France) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Guo Mo B1=no. Hog Farm _Talk 23:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• Hazel Johnson-Brown A couple uncited things about marriage and casue of death, some sources are iffy. Hog Farm _Talk 23:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• Henry Metcalfe (military officer) b1 and b2=no, IMO. Hog Farm _Talk 23:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• Henry V. Plummer B1=no; some cites missing. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Hermes program Fails B2, C-class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMNZS Mako Fails B1, C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 15:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Cameleon (1910) Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS George (1796) Fails B1, C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Llewellyn (1913) Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Lochinvar (1915) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Mounsey (1915) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Serapis (G94) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Termagant (R89) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• HMS Tremendous Fails B3; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Home Guard Medal of Merit Doesn't seem complete to me, C class. Hog Farm _Talk 17:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Hossein Gholi Khan Ilkhani Fails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Hubert Acland B1= no Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Imperial Order of the Yoke and Arrows B2=no; spanish article is significantly longer Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• J. J. Sexby Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• James Carnegie, 9th Earl of Southesk Fails B1; C class Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• James Wallis (British Army officer) reasonable; confirmed Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Japanese military currency (1894–1918) Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Japanese salvage ship Kamikaze Maru No. 7 (1940) Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• John Doyle (RAF officer) downgraded to C, B1 not met, Zawed (talk) 09:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• John Lyons (Royal Navy officer, born 1787)
• John Markham (Royal Navy officer)
• John Monahan (RAF officer)
• John Stanford (general) b1=no, b2=no, start. Hog Farm _Talk 03:12, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Kevin O'Connor (physician)
• Kingdom of Kampuchea (1945) Fails B1 and B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Luis de la Puente Uceda Grammar/punctuation errors and missing citations, start class. Hog Farm _Talk 17:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• M62 coach bombing B-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces
• Messerschmitt P.1103 B-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Milinko Vlahović Fails B1 and B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Military General Governorate of Serbia Fails B1 and B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Nicholas I Drugeth
• Object 490 Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Operation David retained. AustralianRupert (talk) 03:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Operation Horadiz Fails B1, B2, & B4; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Operation SE start. Stuff in infobox that is neither cited nor mentioned in the article body. Hog Farm _Talk 02:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Over Burrow Roman Fort Lead is not a summary of the article. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:18, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Pact Ribbentrop - Beck
• Protests of US military presence in Okinawa Confirmed Class B after rewrite. ミラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 15:33, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• RAF Elgin Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:35, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Red Group B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
• Robyn Clay-Williams retained. AustralianRupert (talk) 04:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Rudolf Resch confirmed as B. Zawed (talk) 00:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Samuel Brown (Royal Navy officer) B1 = no, some paragraphs not cited. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Samuel D. Sturgis Jr. (1861–1933) B-class Parsecboy (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Sardar Rafie Yanehsari B-class Parsecboy (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Siege of Astarabad B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Soe Win (general) C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• SS Glitra Characteristics largely uncited and not fully described, start. Hog Farm _Talk 03:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• SS Sagamore (1892) Downgraded to C-class. Parsecboy (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• SS Sagamore (1893) Looks fine. Parsecboy (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• St Mary's Church, Tyneham I think this one is fine. Hog Farm _Talk 03:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Surrender of General Botho Elster retained. AustralianRupert (talk) 04:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
• Swedish Air Force Volunteers Association Medal of Merit
• Swedish Air Force Volunteers Association Merit Badge
• Swedish Federation for Voluntary Defence Education Medal of Merit
• Swedish Federation for Voluntary Defence Education Merit Badge
• Tarlan Aliyarbayov B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Thomas Hopsonn Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Thomas Moody (British Army officer) Looks alright. Parsecboy (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Tomb of Charles Spencer Ricketts I make this a C-class on grounds of failing B2, although it is marginal. Zawed (talk) 22:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Tony L. Whitehead Fails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Tradecraft Fails b1, b2, and b3. Hog Farm _Talk 03:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Turabay dynasty Passed a GAN earlier this month. Hog Farm _Talk 03:07, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• Ugo Mazzucchelli Seems fine. Parsecboy (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
• ULAQ (AUSV) Confirmed--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• USS Nina (1865) Start The bot seems to be missing uncited paragraphs--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
• Vic Mitchell not really in scope, removed Milhist tag. Zawed (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• War in Uganda (1986–1994) B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Waverly B. Woodson Jr. downgraded to C, on basis of B1: not all his awards are cited. It would be a B otherwise. Zawed (talk) 22:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• West Coast Naval Command downgraded to start, fails B1, B4. Zawed (talk) 22:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Whitworth Porter confirmed as B-class. Zawed (talk) 01:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

MilHistBot (talk) 19:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Joining

Can I join this project? TheDeterminedDev (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)TheDeterminedDev

@TheDeterminedDev: - Yes! Add your name here, in alphabetical order. Hog Farm _Talk 14:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Mongol invasions of Vietnam

Would appreciate some thoughts on this ACR. The nominator has simultaneously listed it at GAN, ACR and FAC. The referencing is well short of what we would expect for ACR, I've suggested closing the ACR and allowing just the GAN to happen. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 08:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't think it is even approaching GA at present, and have left a note on the nominator's talk page to that effect, suggesting a PR first. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Given the circumstances and the quick racking up of opposes, I boldly failed the nomination, the bot should handle it. @WP:MILHIST coordinators: , if anyone disagrees with this, just revert this and give me a slap with the old trout. Hog Farm _Bacon 15:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Peacemaker - a peer review would be the best option at this point. Parsecboy (talk) 15:49, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm going ahead and doing a quick fail of the GA nomination as well. I've left a note on the assessment page encouraging the nominator to go to Peer Review with this. Zawed (talk) 07:18, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Awards

@WP:MILHIST coordinators:  : seeing as it's now very late in November, I've gone ahead and added sections for the end-of the year awards to the milhist talk, pasting the text from last year and changing dates to fit. If that was out of place or I made mistakes (as I may have), don't hesitate to revert/edit/berate me. Hopefully I did everything correctly without stepping on anyone's (virtual) toes. -- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:03, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Eddie, I was going to do that tomorrow. Appreciated. I’ll take a look in a bit. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Peacemaker67. Is it customary to send a mass message alerting people to the award timeline? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:30, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Eddie, yes it is. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Peacemaker67, sorry for not seeing this until now-- I'm not familiar with the procedure for sending out mass messages-- do you think you could handle that? It might make sense to extend the nomination period to 20 December. Apologies again-- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:35, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

No, that's fine mate. I'll do that now. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:39, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Remaining batch list for February 2021

Relisting the unchecked ones here, so they stand out better than in the mostly-checked list above.

• Christopher Morris (photographer) C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Culinary specialist (United States Navy) C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Davis Guards Medal C class--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Decoration Honor of Naval Merit Commander Peter Campbell Looks fine to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Deir ez-Zor offensive (December 2014) Looks good enough for a B. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Diet Eman some uncited stuff, C class. Hog Farm _Talk 01:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
• Diyarbakır Fortress Not fully cited.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• DMS Maritime Start-class. Hog Farm _Talk 23:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Du Sengming downgraded, only uses ancient sources. Hog Farm _Talk 18:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• John Lyons (Royal Navy officer, born 1787) Start class. Parsecboy (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• John Markham (Royal Navy officer) B seems fine. Parsecboy (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• John Monahan (RAF officer) A bit short, but probably squeaks by B. Parsecboy (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Kevin O'Connor (physician) Already reassessed by someone else--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces probably OK. Hog Farm _Talk 17:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Nicholas I Drugeth Looks fine to me. Parsecboy (talk) 16:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Pact Ribbentrop - Beck Start--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Swedish Air Force Volunteers Association Medal of Merit Looks fine to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Swedish Air Force Volunteers Association Merit Badge Not complete. Hog Farm _Talk 23:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
• Swedish Federation for Voluntary Defence Education Medal of Merit Looks fine to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Swedish Federation for Voluntary Defence Education Merit Badge Looks fine to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Should be 20, if I counted correctly. Hog Farm _Talk 23:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Voronezh–Kharkov Offensive

Dates are inconsistent. March 3 and March 14 on same page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh%E2%80%93Kharkov_Offensive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4081:7210:65F0:A0D:53D5:52E5 (talk) 21:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Nostalgy question

• @WP:MILHIST coordinators: It's still nine days left before our new team would be organised and the new terms would start. As always it's the time of the year we add the new team in the Coordinators timeline. However I've been passing by and reading to the past elections and one of them is an intresting one. In the 2010 elections (which is already ten years ago and was the first election we started to use one-year terms) the election got a tie between Parsecboy and AustralianRupert with both having 46 supports. However by the Coordinators timeline only Parsecboy became coord lead which raises the questions is there a reason why AR wasn't coord lead? Or if he was coord lead together with PB why wasn't he added in the timeline? This might be interesting to ask; I hope the back then coords like Tom and Ian can help us. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:45, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • As I recall, we talked about having both of us be co-leads that term, but AR wasn't interested in the role, so it just went to me. Parsecboy (talk) 10:59, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• If he did decline shouldn't we add a footnote to note this? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 11:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Parsecboy is absolutely correct: with this comment AR turned down the role. Harrias ^talk 11:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Looks like he indeed has declined the job but doesn't answer my question should we add a footnote to note this incident? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 00:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• OK, I've added a footnote [1], AustralianRupert can you check you're happy with the wording? If not, feel free to reword it, mate. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• G'day, all, yes I'm ok with that note. Thanks. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Another MilHist year rolls around

G'day @WP:MILHIST coordinators: as Peacemaker is on holiday and enjoying themselves - this is despite my pointing out a guideline depreciating such behaviour - Harrias has tidied up the election pages and I have handed out the stars and updated the coord page and the @MILHIST ping. If I have broken anything, could someone leave a loaded revolver and a bottle of whisky in my room; if I haven't, perhaps someone could do the business with my stars. Welcome to the new coords and welcome back to those who were re-elected. Here's to a great year! Gog the Mild (talk) 17:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I've done the latter. Thanks, Gog the Mild. Hog Farm _Bacon 17:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Gog the Mild I believe that Ian is now a coord emeritus? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

He is, yes. I am trying to find a volunteer for the traditional human sacrifice, and researching deep in the MilHist archives as to the correct procedures. I shall get back to you. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Gratz on another successful election. The table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators needs a new row. - Dank (push to talk) 18:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Dank, done. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Last day

Hey everyone, since I'm still a coord until tomorrow per the Co-ordinators' timeline. Just wanna say thanks to my (former) fellow coords to leading me the way to becoming a coord. I admit I haven't done my coord duties that much mostly because I've reviewed most ARC to close them. I know a little bit ironically but still I've kept those sweet ARCs rolling.

I've started with my first term as an inexperienced coord and of course, we need to recruit inexperienced coords to keep the households rolling. If I could be honest my first term was stressful and hard to deal; I've sometimes felt side-lined with the other people. Why you may ask? Because I'm a reviewer and am not in a financial situation to buy the sources to expand my favourite topics. My goal is to improve MilHist and promote one day my first FA; but again that's a goal and not a plan. If I somehow can search for my books then I still the motivation to do so. Some of you know I'm pretty much a pessimist and an attack or negative incident could shut down myself from both online as off. Some could say I'm depressed and that's one of the things which holds me back. An example is my English; I hate it. I'm not near to the level of a native speaker. Anyway, in that year I've worked with great coords from the big chief PM to the lesser coords. I am happy that our bot is doing more than we've asked in the last few terms. I hope, it will make you all easier in the future, and I also hope the new team would find out how to organise a new backlog since the bot has taken the jobs of the regular backlogs. I'm happy to serve this project and it was an honour to work with you guys.

Since the past two months were the harsh of my term. Because of real-life stuff I first got a shutdown and later took some weeks off on holiday in Mother Nature. Which is really great I highly recommend people to do so. Anyway since real life isn't that positive at the moment I wouldn't be that much active for some time. That's one of the reasons why I'm not nominating myself (even though I wanted) and am happy to see some new coords. Anyway that's everything I believe so I'll be back around begin October maybe sooner or later. If I've time then I'll be online but as far as I'm considering I am sadly not gonna review or work on future projects in the coming weeks or even months. Anyway this isn't a farewell but it feels like it is. I hope some will know the feeling I am bearing today and I wish the team much luck. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

CPA-5, thanks for the message and for your contributions to the project. I'm sure I'm not alone in wishing you all the best for the future and hopefully we will see you back here soon. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 07:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your coord contributions (and reviewing efforts) in the last year, CPA-5! And all the best with the RW challenges. Looking forward to seeing you back here when you can. Regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi CPA-5, it is good to hear that we are still in your thoughts and that you will be popping back in occasionally. Your contributions have been extensive: many of "my" articles have greatly benefitted from your detailed and knowledgeable reviews, and they are not the only ones. I have come to suspect that Wikipedia is an enterprise which is truly greater than the sum of its parts, and you have more than pulled your weight in contributing to that. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:12, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

I've always looked with interest at your reviews, CPA, and will miss your contributions. Thanks also for your time as a coord, I hope all goes well for you and we see you back before long. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:30, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Best wishes. Your contributions, both as reviewer and coordinator are greatly appreciated. Take care. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

• @CPA-5: It's been a difficult year for a lot of people, so I wish you the best. As for seeking to promote an FA, having reviewed some of your work I have complete confidence that you are able to accomplish this. What you did with Bakassi conflict is evidence of this. If you ever want to collaborate on an African milhist project let me know. -Indy beetle (talk) 06:30, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

I likewise give my respects on stepping down as coord to the new elected coordinators. I wish you good luck in performing your duties. Векочел (talk) 02:31, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Cheers Векочел, appreciated. I am sure that our many paths will frequently pass. Gog the Mild (talk) 04:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Military History Writers' Contest

I have wrapped up most of the September contest's details. If someone would check my points tally and issue the second place award we are done. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Awarded. What do we need to do with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Awards#July to September 2020 reviewing tallies? Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 20:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

G'day Harrias, all you have to do is change |status = nominated to |status = approved on all the entries (except for your own), and ask one of the other coords to approve yours, then the bot will hand out the gongs when it runs. And put a brief summary in The Bugle for October (see the July one for an example). Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

A-Class Reviewing Drive?

Feel free to send me to Leavenworth if this is stupid, but what does the idea of trying to organize say a month-long A-Class reviewing drive at some point in the future? MILHIST A-Class is pretty much the only reviewing level exclusive to this project, so it makes sense to me to especially push that reviewing level in the project. Don't know if this has been tried before, or if anyone else actually sees a need or not, but just thought I'd throw that out there. Hog Farm _Bacon 20:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Could be a good idea-- esp now that we have tackled most of the drive-able functions with the bot. People (me) also threw around the idea of a destubathon at some point, but I don't know if anything ever became of that. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I think since the bot got most of the tagging and such, reviewing may be something to try to coordinate. A destubathon would be a worthy task, too. I guess see what there's any interest in. Hog Farm _Bacon 21:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

One thing I could do is have the Bot re-examine our Stub articles and re-classify ones that are no longer stubs. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Now there's a good idea! Gog the Mild (talk) 21:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

yes, please do! That’s a great idea. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm assuming you know how to pull that off, Hawkeye, and I also agree that that would be a good idea. From my experience, the project class isn't updated when an article is worked on very often. A couple years ago, I had to take a coding class for my university. I accidentally created an endless loop and crashed the system. Hog Farm _Bacon 21:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Of course I know how to do it! In fact, I already have instructed the MilHistBot on how to do it. But since there are 51,000 stubs, it might be best to file a WP:BRFA. When I was an undergraduate (last century), the Science Department decided in their wisdom that computers would be everywhere by 2020, so it would be a great idea if all Science student completed CompSci 101. I thought it was fun but many of my classmates thought it was sadistic. The idea was abandoned a few years later. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

That is a good idea. When do you think we should run it, Hog Farm? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Peacemaker67 - As by far the least experienced coord, I'll defer to others' judgments on this, but I wonder if November or January would be a good time. I'd say December's probably a bad time to run something, as there's probably gonna be a lot of people busy with Christmas and other such holidays. Hog Farm _Bacon 23:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

(new coord's opinion) I like the idea of January, sort-of cleaning out the old year's lingering nominations? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Generally we have steered away from scheduling drives during exam periods for uni students in either hemisphere, and from "busy periods" like the Christmas holidays and the election month, but any other time is good. Of course, any time works for me, so I tend to defer to the younger editors who may have preferred months to avoid. Maybe not November, as that is exam time in Australia. January would work AFAIK. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Works for me. I'm one of those university students with exams, and yeah, November's gonna be weird (exams got moved from December to November due to COVID). Hog Farm _Bacon 00:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, if you are keen, why don't you start working on a drive page using Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/March Madness 2020 as a rough guide? Happy to give you a steer as you go as needed. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll start working on it over the next couple days (I've got time). If I manage to screw it up any, feel free to rewrite it. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

• @WP:MILHIST coordinators: Just let you know, some of us in Europe have exams in January like in the UK and here uni exams are also in January. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 09:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

• CPA-5 True. If we're gonna run March Madness again, that rules out both that month and the preceding, because running two in a row is liable to lead to reviewer burnout. So we're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and either pick a subpar month or scrap it or push it off for quite a while. Hog Farm _Bacon 15:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually, the need for March Madness is much reduced due to Milhistbot, so maybe we could do this instead of March Madness? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, to me at least. I'll start on creating a project page for it soon. Hog Farm _Bacon 01:11, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Was there somewhere you could post a request for reviewers? Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/United States war plans (1945–1950) has three supports and an source review, and just needs an easy to do image review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

B-class reviews

• Since we all agree that an A-class review drive is coming, and our bot is running multiple articles at one moment, isn't it a better idea to combine both ideas? If we add all our newly Bs from the bot into a user sandbox and at the reviewing drive the participants review them whether or not they are Bs. Of course like the current ongoing GAN Backlog Drives and our regular backlog drives coords can have a quike double check if it's indeed B. I mean the bot regular add them here review but since there are getting a lot recently in, it might be better to add them in a separate user page. If it's stupîd, I'll throw it away in the bin. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Interesting idea. The original idea was to focus on A-Class, which is getting fairly backed up at the moment, but we could get ambitious and expand it into an overall reviewing drive, with different points for B-class, Ga, A-class, and Fa reviews for project tagged articles, so basically the old March Madness idea but without the project tagging element? Hog Farm _Bacon

• That's good idea. At the moment, ARCs struggle to have reviewers but this issue also occurs in the GANs division. But since there is no backlog drive or any contest for GANs at all, but they got covert by the GAN backlog drives some nominates have to wait a half year or even almost a year before they got reviewed. But if they make a GAN backlog drives every half year and we have our backlog drive a couple of months before/after theirs then we surely can reduce our GAN amount and they have the time to reduce the non-MilHist long-waiting GANs. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yeah, either the ACRs have been slower than molasses the last month, or nobody's interested in mine and it's just a figment of the imagination. Most MILHIST FACs generally get enough attention from the project, but GAN can be slow at times, too. Hog Farm _Bacon 20:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

  I'll say! Albert Kesselring has been sitting at GAN since April, and Lise Meitner since July. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Hawkeye7: - I just picked up Meitner for you. I'll try to knock that one out tomorrow. (I'm on quarantine, searching for borderline productive things to do with my time). Hog Farm _Bacon 04:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

  Thanks. That is much appreciated. Hope things are okay where you are. I'm lucky enough to live in a COVID-free bubble. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• I'm also lucky to have a COVID-free bubble. Every one of my family has negative (am the only one who hasn't been tested). Much luck to you. Anyway, I have another suggestion for the drive about the point system. What about giving extra points for reviewing extra long articles and old nominates? I mean in my opinion, it's not fair to give not extra points for those articles. I mean it's possible that everyone will just pick the new GANs, ARCs, or FACs while they're not long and I think older nominates who bearly get attention should also been given more points because in my view the drive is to meant to reduce all of our nominates. wheter or not they are old or new, long or short. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 09:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• Draft is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military History/March 2021 Reviewing Drive. The points/awards system is currently flawed, as I just put some numbers down for the points and left the awards point plateaus the same from last year's March Madness, so that'll need some work. (Frankly had no idea how to handle that). At the moment, there's no bonus for long articles, but only because I'm still thinking of how to best implement so that logistical hell doesn't result. Gog the Mild - You've been involved in GOCE drives before that weight article length, so maybe you have an idea on how to implement that. Hog Farm _Bacon 04:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

  Hog Farm, if the idea is to drive down the ACR queue, then I would make ACR and FAC reviews both worth 20 points; they are about the same amount of work.

  Re bonuses for length - good idea. GoCE just count the words, which isn't going to work for us. Suggestion: 20% points bonus for every complete 2,000 words of the reviewed article's length, capped at 100% (10,000 words)? Gog the Mild (talk) 12:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• I'd be wary of any length bonuses. I tend to quote extensively when discussing prose issues in my reviews. Those aren't my work, but it makes it very difficult to breakout my own comments from my quotes.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:40, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

  Sturmvogel 66, the standard length counter ignores block quotes. Assuming that was your only reason for disliking length bonuses? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Are we talking about bonuses for the length of the article, or the review? If the article, then "I tend to quote extensively when discussing prose issues in my reviews. Those aren't my work, but it makes it very difficult to breakout my own comments from my quotes." would make no difference. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 14:37, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I find a GA review harder than an FAC or ACR because for GA you are expected to review prose, images, sourcing, and tick all the boxes, whereas for FA you are reviewing as part of a whole and I might just comment on sourcing or just images or just prose. I think gog's suggestion wrt length works well (it's the length of the article and not the review) and maybe for how old the nom is +25% for every four weeks (ish) the article has been waiting, capping at 100% for four months? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Eddie891, I agree, to an extent, re GANs being - sometimes - more work than FACs. It depends what our objective is; if it is to get the ACR backlog down, that is where the points should go. I like the idea of a age bonus, and that could be applied to all reviews. 25% seems a bit high; 20%? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• We always can try it out and if bonuses don't work or are too chaotic or too much work then we can brainstorm for another type of drive next year. If we do length bonuses then I think the scores are a little bit low and should be lifted a little bit. It's just because we use bonuses and the points, in general, are higher than our last backlog drives. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 14:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• Okay, so I've updated the page to reflect 20 points per ACR review. After thinking it over, I think there should definitely be a length bonus. Reviewing Albert Kesselring and Battle of Roan's Tan Yard are intrinsically different things (the reasons will be obvious once you take a look at the articles). An age bonus would also put some incentive to review where they're needed most. Before I start updating the page, I do have one question: How are the two classes of bonuses applied? It makes the most sense to me to apply them separately, based on the base points total, rather than the length bonus being based off of the sum of the base and age points, but this should probably be codified in the rules for consistent application. Maybe it's just my lazy American mind, but I also think that there's a certain level of ease of calculation that's important, so a 10% bonus sounds the easiest to me, with decimals rounded up for generosity's sake. Hog Farm _Bacon 16:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• See, I thought the same. Everyone is sidelining the long nominations especially the GANs. About the age bonus, my idea was most old nominations aren't interesting or are too long for most reviewers. That makes it interesting for people to see there are bonus points for long and bonus for old and since those old nominations are mostly long makes them more worthful than an old 30,000-byte nomination. If indeed follow your 10% then a long and old nomination would gain 20% which sounds okay for me. Also, side note: I've added all of our not-yet-reviewed Bs here for the drive, and Hawkeye is it possible to let the bot add the Bs of the coming months to that page instead of here? If so then we can stake our B nominations for the coming drive. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle October 2020

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: Good day everyone, is there a reason why The Bugle's October edition isn't published yet since the last edits were made four days ago? If it's not ready shouldn't we put a little bit more effort to publish it, since it's mid-October, and I believe we are a little bit late with publishing it? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but am new enough I didn't feel bold enough to say something. I'm willing to do some work to try to get it ready, if I can get pointed to what needs done. Hog Farm _Bacon 15:17, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

It is usually published by the 15th at the latest, it depends on Ian and Nick’s availability. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

In a way it's gratifying to see that people miss it if it's not there...! Nick-D and I still have a few finishing touches to do but I daresay it'll be done soon. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:33, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Ian Rose - If you're ever needing a book review, I recently read Stephen W. Sears's work on the Battle of Chancellorsville and would be willing to hammer out a book review for say next month's or something. I can't guarantee I'll remember much of the finer points after the turn of the calendar, though. Hog Farm _Bacon 21:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

That'd be great Hog Farm, if you want us to see a draft, add a new section at the bottom of the Newsroom talk page. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ian Rose: - Done, although since it's my first one there may be some issues, particularly on the formatting end. Also, my mother tongue is redneck, so I can't guarantee that the writin' is any good. Hog Farm _Bacon 04:18, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Many thanks - I've posted it. It reads well, though do note that Ian and I are Australian so we're not well placed to judge the proper use of the English language! Nick-D (talk) 06:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup the task list

The coordinator task list currently includes the line If a review has been open for seven days without at least three editors commenting, leave a reminder note on the main project talk page. Given that the median time for a review to be completed is much closer to seven weeks than it is to seven days now, this guidance seems to be a bit outdate and should probably be removed. Hog Farm _Bacon 16:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• Agreed. Maybe update it to three weeks or some other date? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:40, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• We've currently got twelve that have been open over a month (including all three of mine), three of which have been open at least two months. My recommendation would be a month, although, frankly, the posts for additional reviews on the project talk page haven't scared up many reviews. Hog Farm _Bacon 17:58, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• The closing instructions table at the nominations page also says that nominations are closed after a maximum of 28 days. That, too, needs corrected, as it is clearly no longer policy, nor is it feasible for it to be so. Hog Farm _Bacon 01:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree with both of these comments, but have three editors start a review is different from the completion time, I think a month is a good timeframe. I suggest we go with the following wording: If a review has been open for a month without at least three editors commenting, leave a reminder note on the main project talk page, using the following boilerplate:. As far as the noms page issue is concerned, do you mean the ACRs for closure section of this page or something else? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:32, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@Peacemaker67: - At the main nominations page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review there is a collapsed table with the heading A-Class review/reappraisal closure instructions for coordinators. The table includes the statement "Closure takes place after minimum of five and maximum of twenty-eight days"; following the columns over, it says that nominations with less than three comprehensive supports, outstanding criteria-based objections, or no consensus to promote should be failed after 28 days. This clearly isn't followed (although when I was new here and made my first A-Class nom, I saw it and was worried than my nom would be failed after 28 days; it wound up being open for about 2.5 months), so this needs reworded somehow. Since we aren't keeping hard caps on how long a nomination can be open anymore, my instinct would be to just remove the phrase giving a maximum time before closure, and then just leave the rest of the table as is. Hog Farm _Bacon 05:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Hog Farm: BRD! Gog the Mild (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Generally we are talking about three months, but some have stayed open for longer. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:25, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

General of the Armies

The article's got its OR and uncited tags back again, which means we need to go through it and weed out the uncited, speculative, and original information to get it back to where it needs to be to be useful to the project. I'm gonna try and take a stab at it tomorrow, time permitting, but if anyone in a different time zone gets a chance to jump on it earlier please be my guest. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

I went ahead and gutted most of the article, keeping only what was or appeared to be the cited information. Anyone care to look and see if I missed something there? TomStar81 (Talk) 21:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I don’t have time at the moment, but a ton of the sources you readded when you restored the last version (such as the Army times article and almost everything post WWII) were determined to be fabricated information by OberRanks. I'll take a stab at it tonight, but I’d take a quick look at the talk page there and at Admiral of the Navy for context. Garuda28 (talk) 21:30, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Questions about combinedfleet.com

Many of the naval articles that we manually check assessment on, especially IJN submarine ones, rely on combinedfleet.com. What is the reliability of this source? -Indy beetle (talk) 17:55, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

In A recent GA discussion, the justification was "Run by published authors Anthony Tully and Jon Parshall." by Sturmvogel 66, who may have more to add? Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

From experience with it, its generally accepted as decently reliable. However, some of these ship articles are sourced almost entirely to combinedfleet, or have only one citation to a non-combinedfleet source. In my opinion, if combinedfleet is the only source, or if 95% of the article is sourced only to combinedfleet, then b1=no due to overreliance on a single source. It's not a bad source; we just need other sources besides it, like with any source. Hog Farm _Bacon 18:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm fine with using combinedfleet for the majority of the service section as that's usually poorly or sporadically covered in English-language sources. The description section should be mostly sourced to in-print books as most Japanese warships are well covered in English. And don't be deceived by how often the cites appear as some cover full paragraphs while other paragraphs have practically every sentence cited.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:43, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

We should strive for a standard when assessing articles like Japanese submarine Ro-114 (confirmed by Sturm) and Japanese submarine Ro-115 (downgraded by Indy). Is heavy reliance on this source enough for B1 or not? Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed this discrepancy and this is why I asked this question. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Hog Farm. We should not have GAs that are mostly sourced to combinedfleet.com, and use of a single source should mean b1=n automatically, and GA criteria 2b=no. If the vessel is truly notable, there should be significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. A detail here and there from combinedfleet.com is one thing, but most of the article is another. I appreciate there are sometimes language barriers with accessing sources, but we need to do better than accepting this as the main source for a GA. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

The editor of Ro-114 used three different sources for the description section and then the rest of the article was from combinedfleet with a torrent of cites as practically every individual sentence is cited. The construction section could have been easily sourced to one of the three books used earlier and at least a few details about the sub's career could have been sourced to Rohwer's Chronology of the War at Sea 1939-1945. And info on the sub's fate is almost certainly available elsewhere. But those are issues for a GAN, IMO, not B class. Y'all may disagree, but I confirmed Ro-114 as B class because it wasn't just single-sourced, even if the predominance of combinedfleet cites in the construction and career sections is less than ideal. I'm not too concerned about consistency between assessors at B-class level as I myself go back and forth on how an biographical article can be considered reasonably complete if it lacks any and all info on the subject's family life.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Often all I have is the name of the subject's partner. Many of the subjects are uncooperative in this regard, despite providing copious details about other parts of their life. Case in point. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I figure that as GA requires that "it addresses the main aspects of the topic", and B-class is lesser than that, family life is almost always unnecessary to meet this criterion. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 16:29, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think 114 is just barely diversified enough to be B (although I'd expect more from a GA). However, I'm not sold on 115. There's way more information at 115 than 114, so 115 really feels like an imbalance towards one source to me. Hog Farm _Bacon 03:14, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I can see why all that extra career material for 115 might influence you that way. But both articles use the same exact four sources, so I don't see them as fundamentally different and neither one of them are single sourced, by definition. Y'all can do whatever y'all think is best; I'm not going to get too fussed about it either way.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

ARCs clean up

• Hey everyone, I'm recently reviewing more ARCs in the past few days and I saw there are some ARCs which needs some attention. These are all older than or almost 2 months old. Which is in my view a really long procedure esspecially if there's no progress for weeks like a few nominations have. I think if we all can help these out then they are cleaned up. Especially now that 2021 is knocking on the door it may be is a good time to clean it up and start the new year fresh.

Needs attention

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Crusader states (since 27 September) This one has no supports but there's a lot of progress in the meanwhile. Currently there are two reviewers thus we only need another reviewer and then an image and source review anyone interested?
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Lisa Nowak (since 30 September) It passed the image review and has one support even though there's another reviewer who has not confirmed whether or not they support it. A source review and one regular reviewer is needed here anyone?

  Reviewer has now supported, so only one more support and a source review needed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Revolt of the Admirals (since 3 October) It has two supports and an image review. Only one support and a source review are needed.
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Uganda–Tanzania War (since 11 October) It has passed image review and has one support. It also has I assume passed source review even though the reviewer hasn't confirmed that but the discution has been frozend. It only needs two supports.

Getting closer to the two-month mark

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Manuel Kamytzes (since 16 October) Has passed image review and has one support. Two supports and a source review are needed here.
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Shuttle-Centaur (since 30 October) Like above this one isn't that close to the two-month mark. But it would be great if we promote it before the year ends all nominations after this one would be at least two months old by 2021. It has only passed an image review any help would be grateful. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 14:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I know that December is a hard month to make progresses and promotions, but, if everyone reviews a couple of nominations then we are probably done for this year. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

• @WP:MILHIST coordinators: Could be interesting if everyone joins the fun here? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 11:08, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I certainly will be picking up a couple here in the next few days, but at least one I have already reviewed has an intractable issue and I can’t support unless it is resolved. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 12:41, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

CPA-5: Good idea, but I have done three ACR reviews already this month (plus seven at FAC), so more from me might have to wait. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

• Gog the Mild Yeah understandable, I'm planning to review Manuel Kamytzes since I'm still struggling to find time or motivation to finish my FAC reviews. Most of them are pretty long maybe after I've finished those FACs I will review one of the long nominations. Since it's mid-December we all have still some time to make a proper review instead of rushing them. If you find a good spot of spare time and the motivation then you are always welcome to review these. Father Christmas/Santa Claus would give us these as great presents if these all passed before the year ends. ;) Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:58, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

• I am also doing more FAC reviewing than ACRs these days, unless I have more than one article at ACR. I don't think these timelines are actually too bad, some of these noms are a bit stuck for various legitimate reasons, and I usually don't start a review until the previous reviewer's comments are mostly addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

MH historian of the year voting

Does one of us need to start a new thread for this soon, based on my reading of the nominations thread? Hog Farm _Bacon 20:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Hog Farm: I think I started it correctly, based on what gog did last year. And I've managed to send about 25 pings in the process :P -- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Eddie891, well, I can see where you are going wrong there, straight away. ;-) Gog the Mild (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Peacemaker67: do you think you could you send out a mass-message? Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll give it a couple of days. Could you change the message on Template:WPMILHIST Announcements as well? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

How did Hawkeye end up as a nominee for Newcomer of the Year? Did somebody move his entry from the Historian of the Year section?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Sturmvogel 66, It was this edit. I did a bit of rearranging because I don't think Buckshot meant to vote for Hog Farm, but I think everyhting else should be GTG. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Just a note that I have extended the voting period of one by a day to coincide with the other, as they were different. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Two nominations at the same time

• Is it allowed to nominate an article for GAN and ARC or ARC and FAC at the same time? Because at the moment Crusader states has been nominated both for GAN and ARC. I would love to hear an answer here? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

  CPA-5, it is not allowed to have the same article nominated for FAC at the same time as it is also nominated for either ACR or GAN. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

• Gog the Mild And how about a GAN at the same time as an ARC? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:55, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

  CPA-5, I know. You also asked "or ARC and FAC at the same time"; I was responded just to that part of your query. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

  I am pretty sure that that is disallowed, but I can't find an actual rule. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

• In my experience having an article at GAN and ACR at the same time is strongly discouraged due to possible confusion it could cause if they are actually being reviewed at the same time, and that the nom might be making changes due to the GAN that contrast with what an ACR reviewer is saying, resulting in obstacles to promotion by either or both. This could occur because there can be a tension between the higher content standard at ACR and the arguably greater focus on style at GAN, although some reviewers like me don't really make that distinction in their reviews. However, it isn't verboten AFAIK, and I'm not sure there would be a consensus amongst project members that there should be a strict policy on it. It could result in the odd situation where an article was A-Class for Milhist but B-Class or lower for other projects, but that is purely a bureaucratic issue IMHO. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

• Having a rule against it seems to be excess standards creep to me, although I would recommend getting the GAN done before nominating for ACR to make sure it was properly prepared. Hog Farm _Bacon 21:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

• I don't see any point to doing either simultaneously, but I don't think that a rule is necessary either.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

• The main reasons for GAN are to qualify for DYK or to build up a featured topic. When I started out I nominated US-related articles at GA and Australian ones at A-class, but wound up having to nominate a series of A-class articles at GA. I once accidentally nominated an article for both at the same time. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

• GAN is also useful for articles where enough sources to build a GA are present, but the full spectrum of sources needed for ACR or FAC is not available at the time. Hog Farm _Bacon 21:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

• Yeah, or I don't want to invest the amount of time required to research it enough to bring it up to ACR-level quality.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

ACRs and source reviews

I would like to discuss a more fundamental point, but first a minor niggle. A class criterion 1 reads:

The article/list is consistently referenced with an appropriate citation style, and all claims are verifiable against reputable sources, accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge, and are supported with specific evidence and external citations as appropriate.

It may be me, but I am struggling to see the difference between "all claims are verifiable against reputable sources" and "are supported with specific evidence and external citations as appropriate." Am I missing something? Or could it be slimmed to

The article/list is consistently referenced with an appropriate citation style, all claims are appropriately verifiedable against reputable sources and accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge.

Gog the Mild (talk) 15:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• • I see a bit of a difference between "are verifiable" and "are supported with specific evidence". The former could be read to suggest that the information just needs to be probable and not cited inline, while the latter and current expectations are for inline citations. I'd prefer the latter phrasing, as verified is more of the expectation, not verifiable. Hog Farm _Bacon 15:37, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
    • My concern with “verified” is that this puts the onus on a reviewer to do this. The WP-wide requirement is verifiability, not actual verification. The issue of what needs to be done in source reviews needs to be kept separate from the criteria in my view. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Last year's contest

Last month's contest still needs to be closed out. As well as the overall totals, etc. If someone could find time, of their kindness, to do all this, that would be great.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Sturmvogel 66, I think have sorted all this without screwing it up, just need someone to dish out the Writer's Barnstar for second place for the December contest. Zawed (talk) 07:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I can do that.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Automated statement quality predictions

Hi, we are working on an AI to automatically identify issues in statements along the lines of neutrality, clarifications and citations. The AI learns from statements in low quality articles that are problematic. We need some help evaluating the predictions to make them better and prepare for community use. I'm providing a few example predictions for neutrality. The statements below were identified by the AI as having minor POV issues (weasel words and inflated/ambiguous language). Please let us know inline if the statements below indeed have NPOV issues. We believe that the AI has potential to ease article quality review and welcome conversations on how to best evaluate and put this to practice for aiding in review of low quality articles. See the discussion on FAR for more information. Sumit (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• On May 11, 1964, in Famagusta, 2 Greek Cypriot officers and a policeman were murdered by Turkish Cypriot separatists. (1964_Famagusta_incident#Incidents)
• Following the murder, Greek Cypriot security forces who were ordered to "Kill 10 Turks for each slain Greek" entered the town to investigate the murder (1964_Famagusta_incident#12_May)
• The cruise missiles strike on Iraq in June 1993 were ordered by U.S. President Bill Clinton as both a retaliation and a warning triggered by the attempted assassination by alleged Iraqi agents on former U.S. President (1993_cruise_missile_strikes_on_Iraq)
• Azerbaijan, which has completely annihilated the Armenian cultural heritage in Nakhichevan and in other parts of the historical homeland of the Armenian people, now throughout the ongoing military aggression against Artsakh is trying to deprive Armenians of Artsakh of their homeland and historical memory" (2020_Ghazanchetsots_Cathedral_shelling#Response)
• Scholars have extensively studied the effects of the bombings on the social and political character of subsequent world history and popular culture, and there is still much debate concerning the ethical and legal justification for the bombings. (Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki)
• Around 1971 the Naxalites gained a strong presence among the radical sections of the student movement in Calcutta. (Naxalite#Violence_in_West_Bengal)
• The term Naxalites comes from Naxalbari, a small village in West Bengal, where a section of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) (CPI-M) led by Charu Majumdar, Kanu Sanyal, and Jangal Santhal initiated an uprising in 1967. (Naxalite#History)
• The book was favorably reviewed by J√≥hanna Krist√≠n Birnir (of the University of Maryland), who wrote, "this book combines much of the best that comparative politics has to offer: conceptually clear and rigorous theorizing based on insights from extensive field work, and tested in a methodologically solid fashion on a wealth of quantitative and qualitative data. (The_Logic_of_Violence_in_Civil_War#Reception)
• Since at least the French revolution, we have collected a frightening register of extremely violent events in the context of civil wars, and such apparent massive irrational behaviour among combatants and civilians (a sort of unexpected Hobbesian disease) has been widely examined by the literature. (The_Logic_of_Violence_in_Civil_War#Contents)
• In the 2010s, China has also been engaged in its own War on Terror, predominantly a domestic campaign in response to violent actions by Uyghur separatist movements in the Xinjiang conflict. (War_on_terror#Anti-terror_campaigns_by_other_powers)

Book review if you need it

I've written one at User:Hog Farm/Book review/Perryville. I'm fine with it being used whenever (or never). Not the smoothest writing in the world, but I think it's passable. Hog Farm _Talk 03:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: thanks a lot - posted. Nick-D (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021 Military History Writers' Contest

Hi all, I have initiated the Feb table and dished out the award for second place in the Jan contest. If someone could do the honours for the first place getter (ahem)...thanks! Zawed (talk) 08:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Zawed, thanks for sorting that out, and done. Congratulations. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:58, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

March reviewing drive, revisited

Way back in October, we had a discussion about possibly holding a reviewing drive in lieu of MILHIST March Madness this year, as the excellent bot now does many of the project tagging etc. tasks. Is there still interest in doing this, now that it is around February? I've got a (very) rough draft I kinda started on during the October discussion stashed somewhere I cannot recall, but as rough as it was, if there's interest, it might almost be better to not use that draft. Any interest in possibly doing that this year? Hog Farm _Talk 23:27, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Excellent idea. Maybe triple points, and/or a barnstar for editors reviewing their first B class article, ACR or FAC? Gog the Mild (talk) 18:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hog Farm Yes, I think this should be run. here's the draft you are presumably thinking of. It looks decent to me, though I think the point thresholds needed for barnstars should be adjusted. What do we need to do in the next four days? Send out a mass message, perhaps? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I've created the worklist page, though the headers may need tweaking. We could always push to april if this is too soon. @WP:MILHIST coordinators: , what do you all think? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I assume that we are not concerned about running at the same time as the March GAN drive? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I'd say these are more likely to have constructive interference than destructive interference. I don't think the GA drive will draw too many reviews away from ACR, B-class, or FAC MILHIST reviews, and if reviews are getting done, that's the end goal, even if some go non-MILHIST. Hog Farm _Talk 17:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I will be rather busy in RL for the next couple days, so while I agree that the points thresholds need fixed, I won't be able to give that issue much attention. Hog Farm _Talk 17:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I have had a stab at adjusting the number of points required to reach each award level. Intended more as to initiate a discussion than anything I feel very strongly about. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I think this should definitely go ahead, and agree with Gog about pumping up the points. Given the imminence of March, and the existing March GAN drive, I suggest making this an April thing. That way we can advertise in the March Bugle and send out a mass message a week before as well as on 31 March. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 20:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, April's a good idea. What would be y'all's recommendations on points? Hog Farm _Talk 23:04, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

The one's there now look good to me. I reckon let's get it up and running, making sure it is advertised in the Bugle. If you ping me at the end of the month, I'll do a mass message to project members. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:39, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Peacemaker67, might be a good time to send a mass message? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Why does the Reviewing Drive reward assessing articles from the AutoCheck report but not tagging and assessing against the same criteria manually? If anything the latter is both more laborious and serves exactly the same purpose.--Catlemur (talk) 12:46, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Catlemur, The aim of the drive is to clear review backlogs. There are about twenty-five articles eligible for what you are mentioning by my count. We could add it, but I'm not sure there's a huge need. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Eddie891 There are dozens of articles that are MILHIST related that are neither tagged nor assessed. I assume the bot is going to tag and assess them at some point but its just going to build up future backlogs since its not very accurate. I have a list of 30-40 of them in a Word document. Now I am going to tag and assess them at some point anyway but getting points for it would be nice.--Catlemur (talk) 12:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Catlemur, added it to 1 point. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)