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Band member timeline standards discussion at WikiProject Musicians

I wanted everyone here to know about the current discussion happening at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians#Create Member Section/Timeline Standards that may put an end to all of the edit warring and inconsistency surround band member timelines. — DLManiac (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

The Garage rock article is now GA!

The garage rock article has now gone GA! Take a look at enjoy. You will notice that it is filled with a lot of interesting history, even some trivia, and eye-opening discoveries from a really magical time--at the summit of rock's golden age in the 60s. Garagepunk66 (talk) 08:30, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Band member lists

Onec again I raise the issue of band member lists in infoboxes. At 10cc, under "Members", it lists Graham Gouldman, Paul Burgess, Rick Fenn, Mike Stevens and Mick Wilson. WTF? And, there, relegated under "past members", along with a host of other names, are Eric Stewart, Lol Creme, Kevin Godley. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong, and something needs to be done about it, not just with this band but with a whole host of others, where a bunch of people no one has ever heard of appear to be prominent members. A way must be found, somehow or other, to list the true members of bands' original or classic line-ups more prominently. 109.151.39.91 (talk) 01:05, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to a virtual editathon on Women in Music

Women in Music
	10 to 31 January 2016 Please join us in the worldwide virtual edit-a-thon hosted by Women in Red.

--Ipigott (talk) 10:45, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Notification of FLRC

I have nominated List of awards and nominations received by Linkin Park for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --Skr15081997 (talk) 10:39, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussion regarding terminology of singles

I have started a discussion regarding how Wikipedia should define singles. Please go here to discuss.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

‘The’ vs. ‘the’ mid-sentence

Several years ago, a controversial consensus was reached not to capitalize the definite article in mid-sentence uses of ’The Beatles’ (thus ‘I like the Beatles’ as opposed to ‘I like The Beatles’; see here for arguments for each side), and articles for most rock bands whose names begin with ‘The’ have since been edited accordingly. Although the MoS on music has since been edited to say ‘Mid-sentence, per the MoS, the word "the" should in general not be capitalized in continuous prose’, I would like to revive the issue for a very simple reason: in the Beatles discussion, both sides seem to have completely ignored the fact that ‘The’ is the first word in the band's name and the first word in a proper noun is generally capitalized every time the proper noun is used (cf. Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird). It should thus be capitalized mid-sentence simply for being the first word in a proper noun, and it is thus entirely possible to say that ‘The Beatles’ should be written mid-sentence even though the ‘the’ is generally not capitalized in band names like ‘Echo & the Bunnymen’ and ‘Booker T. & the M.G.s’. If you take that into consideration, some of the external style guides presented in favor of ‘the’ become ambiguous at best (Duke University's, for example, simply says ‘Avoid unnecessary capitals’), and the MoS has changed in two places to support ‘The’: MOS:THECAPS now says, ‘Use the same capitalization as the title of the article’, and although it says this is only for song and album titles, WP:BANDNAME says, ‘capitalize the first and last word [of the song or album title]’, and it would be irrational to draw a distinction between the first word of band names and the first word of song and album titles; they're all proper nouns, after all. What do you think? Should it be ‘the Beatles’ or ‘The Beatles’ mid-sentence? Esszet (talk) 23:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I think "aww jeez, not this again". The debate was utterly pointless, a consensus was reached, and more important things must be looked at. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:04, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Michael Jackson & The Jacksons – Month To Month Recording Session Guide

Anyone interested in helping with Draft:Michael Jackson & The Jacksons – Month To Month Recording Session Guide? It was recently created by a very, very new editor (The Doctor 1170) and he could definitely use some help with this. It's written like a personal blog, is unsourced, and I'm worried that it might be considered too indiscriminate for Wikipedia, but I could maybe see the potential merit in having a recording guide to an artist's work. I'm going to post this in a few places looking for help. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

RFC

Editors may be interested in joining the discussion at this RFC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:49, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Expert help needed at help-desk

Hello,
a query has been posted at the help-desk in respect of a name missing from album credits here. Although sources have been found, their reliability is not known (to us). If someone with more knowledge could comment at the help-desk (or here if needs be) that would be much appreciated. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 26, 2016

The person who nominated this at FAC is long gone, so I'm not sure who to turn to. Would anyone like to have a look at the article before its day on the Main Page? - Dank (push to talk) 08:33, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes

Following a recent discussion at WP:VPR, there is consensus for an opt-in bot task that automatically assesses the class of articles based on classes listed for other project templates on the same page. In other words, if WikiProject A has evaluated an article to be C-class and WikiProject B hasn't evaluated the article at all, such a bot task would automatically evaluate the article as C-class for WikiProject B.

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Improve upon a page?

Anyone here interested in improving the page for Moonlit Sailor? I saved it from getting speedied, I think, but it could use more from people more familiar with the group and/or with music related sourcing. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:29, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Whitey Houston

Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Whitey Houston and assessing it? Article looks like its been around since 2006, but I'm not even sure if it satisfies WP:BAND since no sources are provided. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

The Great Rock Discography

Does anyone have a copy of Martin C. Strong's The Great Rock Discography (2004)? I'd appreciate if someone could tell me what score is given to a few albums I've been writing articles on. Ping me if you respond here. Dan56 (talk) 16:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

FAR

I have nominated Gwen Stefani for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:56, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Artist pages infoboxes being changed to {{infobox person}}

Just wondering is boldly changing artist infoboxes from {{infobox musical artist}} to {{infobox person}} ie Joan Jett, Paul McCartney and Roger Daltrey to name a few, what's the projects take on this ? Mlpearc (open channel) 13:21, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

What advantages does the former infobox have? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I don't know, They're musical artist why change them ? or why have the template ? Mlpearc (open channel) 19:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Help with an article

I have a huge request. Long story short, I came across Americade (band) via the article for Gerard de Marigny, which is up for AfD and is incredibly promotional and has issues with notability. de Marigny looks to be non-notable enough for his own article and I'm concerned that this band is also non-notable. The article is almost completely unsourced and would require a substantial re-write from head to toe to remove all of the promotional puffery. I'm honestly debating taking it to AfD just to get it nuked, since I don't know that there's much here that would be salvageable.

Anyone want to take a whack at cleaning it up and saving it? If you do, take any and all claims in the article with a huge grain of salt, as the editor who created the article (who appears to be de Marigny) seems to like taking non-notable claims and puffing them up to seem notable. For example, he tried using video views for a YouTube video as a sign of notability, tried using the presence of de Marigny's quotes in quotation websites (where anyone can add content) as a sign, and so on. Something that might seem notable in the article might end up being something that actually isn't as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:04, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Extensive gig list

Before removing this extensive gig list, a viewpoint as to whether it would be regarded as a bit WP:CRUFTy would be appreciated. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Backmasking

I have nominated Backmasking for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Psychonautic Sun

Psychonautic Sun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Would somebody from WP:ROCK mind taking a look at this stub and assessing it. The file was prod'd for deletion by Marvellous Spider-Man, but it was removed by an IP who seems to be associated with the band. I think this might be a case of WP:TOOSOON since none of the sources (except maybe one) are independent or appropriate for establishing notability. I googled the band, but all I could find were social media accounts or other trivial mentions. I was going to take it to AfD, but figured I'd ask for feedback here first in case I am missing something. FWIW, I am posting here because the band seems to a rock band of some type. Thank in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Looks like I heaved it out of the door. Sorry. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Math rock, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:07, 3 October 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

• @MusikAnimal: - stupid question, how long do TAFI candidates last for? I see the banner is still there, and this an article I might actually have sources to do something with. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

  @Ritchie333: The TAFI period is currently one week long, beginning/ending on Mondays at 00:00 UTC. If you've got ways to improve math rock there's bad time to do it, though! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:34, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Neo-psychedelia

Looking for some editors to weigh in at Talk:Neo-psychedelia#Protected edit request--Ilovetopaint (talk) 22:07, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Buddy Holly-Crickets template

I'd like people to give their opinion here. A single person has made big changes on it, and I totally disagree. Elfast (talk) 13:13, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Buddy Holly and the Crickets template

I totally disagree with the edits on Buddy Holly template which have been made pretty recently by an user. We have discussed here and we definitely don't agree with it. Could someone give his opinion ? Elfast (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

RFC about post-progressive

I posted an RFC about the post-progressive article - see talk page. Chilton (talk) 11:27, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

The Raves Band

The original 68.199.88.30 (talk) 22:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)Raves band are from Brooklyn NY. They were the house band in the Café Wha in the mid to the latter part of the sixties. Many bands and performers have passed through the club while the Raves were the house band ie; Jimi James and the Blue Flames (Jimi Hendrix), Bo Grumpus, The Outcasts, Hello People, The Kangaroos, The Cherry People, Martin St. James (Hypnotist), etc. The Raves were started by brothers Michael and David Jimenez from Canarsie, Brooklyn around the mid '60's.

David Jimenez

Rap against rock

Can you please explain to me with rap and soul music you do the singles and album sales but with rock music and even country music you only count album sales that is total bias, you should not count singles in total sales because a rap artist does 8 singles a album where a rock/metal band don't release singles so a rap artist is bound to sell more singles. Also in downloads which is single totals now you can download a song 5 times and it counts for 5 sales, and to me downloading is not buying a song so singles sales are a total con. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:5A2D:4A00:29E4:F104:FBE8:7FB0 (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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Garage rock task rock force

TheGracefulSlick and I have been working on creating task force for garage rock to operate under the banner of this Wikiproject. We have gathered enough editors who have expressed an intention to join the task force and we feel that it is near-ready to be launched (see prototype). We were wondering if we could just submit it into main space or if we need a Wikiproject coordinator to assist? Should we just give it a go? Garagepunk66 (talk) 03:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

We now have a Garage rock task force. I have now submitted the page into main space as Wikipedia:WikiProject Rock music/Garage rock taskforce. However, I welcome anyone's assistance in making any corrections or improvements. Thanks. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:39, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject proposal: Psychedelic music

If interested, please offer support for a WikiProject focused on psychedelic music.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 01:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

GAR notice for Rock music

Rock music, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Shearonink (talk) 06:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Looking for FA support for Courtney Love article

Hello all, I've worked quite extensively on the Courtney Love article, and have nominated it for FA status several times but have failed to garner enough supporters to further it beyond the nomination process. I believe the article absolutely fulfills the criteria, and I have gotten supports for promotion each time, just not enough. If anyone would mind looking it over and leaving comments/supporting if you feel so, I'd be very grateful. There does not seem to be many people willing to do reviews of it during the nomination process—I know she is a divisive figure—but I'm hoping I can gather some support to get an FA promotion. Thank you! --Drown Soda (talk) 05:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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List of Vital Signs band members

Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at List of Vital Signs band members? Not sure if a separate list article is needed for a band which had seven members. Most of the content appears to be the same as in other article related to the band and its members, so any unique content can be merged into to one or all of them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:26, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

David Bowie sales

If somebody is interested in the opinion of what sales are most accurate for him: 100 or 140 million. Please, talk on the main article. Thanks, Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 19:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Draft:BP (Band)

Could someone please check through and clean up this draft and resubmit it? (The original creator is no longer on Wikipedia.) Some of the dates are wrong and some of the citations do not substantiate, especially when there was more than one release of an album of the same title. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 11:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

I found the band has a page at Beautiful People (band) and have performed a merge and redirect of the Draft. Legacypac (talk) 21:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Red The White and The Blue

Hello rock music enthusiasts. This draft article has some references. The band has some releases, but the article doesn't claim they were hits, or that the band went on tours, etc. Is this a notable band? —Anne Delong (talk) 04:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Content (Joywave album) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Content (Joywave album) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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Should Kalev (band) be deleted?

Kalev (band) has been marked for tone and lack of references since 2007. I copyedited the article and found an archive link for the one reference, but I could not find any reliable sources for the band. They recorded 3 singles, none of which won any notable prizes. There is supposed to be an article in Artrocker, but I couldn't find it online. Can anyone else improve this article or should it be deleted? Leschnei (talk) 00:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC) (I've also posted a note on the article's talk page)

Elvis Presley Featured Article Review

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Theory of a Deadman discography

Hello, WikiProject Rock Music! I have nominated this discography for WP:FL (you can find it here) and the review seems to have stalled. May I please ask that anyone interested please take a few moments to review it and leave comments and support for its promotion? It would be greatly appreciated and I would be happy to reciprocate if you have anything under review that needs commenting. Thank you! — Miss Sarita 14:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Just need one or two more "Supports"! A lot of the major legwork has already been done. If anyone has some time to look it over, that would be so wonderful! It's so close! And as I mentioned, I am more than happy to take a look at anything you have that needs to be reviewed (now or any time in the future). Thank you! — Miss Sarita 19:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification of discussion of redirection of I'm Free (The Rolling Stones song)

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"Timeline" under "Band members"

As far as I know there is no requirement to include a timeline, and for uncomplicated personnel it ought to be considered redundant. Please see Talk:IV_of_Spades#Timeline if you have an opinion one way or another. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

AC/DC

Members of this project may want to visit Talk:AC/DC - I have noticed some significant issues with this featured article that need to be addressed. Red Phoenix ^talk 14:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

AC/DC at FAR

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RfC notice

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#RFC: Regarding genre listings in infobox for music band. Specifically; whether or not to include rock and roll to the list of genres in the infobox for the Led Zeppelin article. Thank you - wolf 08:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

AFD for Truth Decay (American band)

If anyone has any knowledge of the 90's Texas art rock band, please weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Truth Decay (American band). --Animalparty! (talk) 18:35, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Prince

Hello Wikipedia,

Having just read the whole of Prince's article on here, I felt compelled to sign up to Wikipedia and help to improve the article, as I feel Prince himself and, indeed, everybody who wants to learn more about him is deserving of a much higher quality article on Wikipedia for such an incredible musician and human being. I am writing here as I would like to greatly improve Prince's Wikipedia page, and to turn it into a top-notch article, and would welcome any help I can get in doing so. If you are reading this and wish to contribute to this noble goal, please do get in touch with me through my talk page--while I may be new to contributing to Wikipedia, I do strongly believe this is worth pursuing and would welcome the help of anybody who thinks the same way. Thank you. Pussycontrol (talk) 13:22, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

The Simulation listed at Redirects for discussion

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RfC on creating a "Cultural impact of Michael Jackson" article

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Cultural impact of Michael Jackson#Should this page and/or a "Michael Jackson in popular culture" page be a Wikipedia article?. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 12:23, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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RfC on restructuring the Michael Jackson article with respect to child sexual abuse allegations

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Michael Jackson#Request for comments on restructuring the article. A permalink for it is here. Restructuring has been suggested in light of the recent Leaving Neverland documentary. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

FA nomination for Almost There

Almost There (album) article is up for featured article status. As a significant (mid-importance) article in this WikiProject, any and all project members are invited to comment on or review the nomination and help see if it fits the featured article criteria. Toa Nidhiki05 22:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Rock music for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Rock music is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Reminder: FA nomination for Almost There (album)

Just a reminder to anyone interested: the article for Almost There (album) is up for featured article status. It is one of the best-selling Christian rock albums of all time and a high-importance article in the area of Christian music, and any and all project members are invited to comment on or review the nomination and help see if it fits the featured article criteria. The nomination is starting to lose attention and might be archived soon, so any comments are appreciated! Toa Nidhiki05 16:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Soft Rock for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Punk rock for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Punk rock is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Punk rock until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Featured article nomination for Almost There (album)

I’ve renominated Almost There (album), a mid-importance article in this project, for Wikipedia:Featured article. Any editors are welcome to add to the discussion at the nomination page. Toa Nidhiki05 13:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

LILIAC (band) - Draft article - Will you help?

LILIAC is a hard rock and metal band consisting of five siblings, ages 11 to 20. I don't know if they meet notability criteria yet, but they probably will soon. I started a (rough) draft article at User:Markworthen/Liliac. Please add, subtract, edit, etc. I have a fair amount of Wikipedia experience, but I've never started an article about a band, so please excuse any rookie mistakes. ;-)

Also, if there's a good reason for the article to be in an official "sandbox" let me know. I have found the sandbox/draft article setup to be confusing and annoying, but I defer to those of you who know more.

Thanks!   - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 10:09, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Michael W. Smith discography nominated for featured article

I've nominated Michael W. Smith discography, a mid-importance article under this project's purview, for featured list. For anyone interested, any and all comments are welcome. Toa Nidhiki05 00:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of Alternative Vision (alternativevision.co.uk) on the reliable sources noticeboard

There is a noticeboard discussion on the reliability of Alternative Vision ([alternativevision.co.uk]), specifically its reviews of nu metal. If you're interested, please participate at WP:RSN § Alternative Vision. — Newslinger talk 12:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Alternative rock for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Alternative rock is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alternative rock until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:19, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Article issues

There is a discussion at Talk:Alex Chilton#Article issues that might be of interest to members of this project. Otr500 (talk) 10:30, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Should adult-oriented rock (AOR) have a real page of its own?

Excuse me if this isn't the right place to post this.

Yesterday, I made a post on the Discussion page for the disambiguation page for "Adult-oriented rock" (found here) that stated that a real page for adult-oriented rock (AOR) should be written. On that page, I explained my case, defined the genre, and briefly explained the difference between album-oriented rock (a radio format) and adult-oriented rock (a genre). I figured I might get more responses on how to proceed here.

If a page for adult-oriented rock was to be made, would rateyourmusic.com be a reliable source to use? On an artist's page, it lists their primary genres, and AOR is listed by AOR artists. Also, would this book, The AOR Bible, be considered a reliable source to use? I'd like to know before I spend $45 on it.

I understand that "adult-oriented rock (AOR)" is a less-than-ideal name for the genre, but that, along with "melodic rock," is generally what it's referred to as. I mean, "glam metal" isn't a perfect description of the genre it describes, as glam metal generally isn't actually metal (and I don't mean that derogatorily).

Thank you for any responses. BDR77777 (talk) 22:12, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Consensus discussion

Please voice your opinions at Talk:AC/DC#Seeking page protection consensus. Regarding indef semi for Bon Scott, Angus Young, Malcolm Young pages. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:02, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Rolling Stone at Peer Review

Well, their first and most obscure manager anyway. Looking forward to any expert eyes! Cheers  :) ——SN54129 19:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Peer review/Eric Easton/archive1

Draft:Yiannis Papadopoulos (guitarist)

Here's a draft the falls under the interest of this project. Perhaps someone would like to review it?—Anne Delong (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Request for Comment on the GWAR talk page

Hi, I got here from the section on how to publicize a Request for Comment, so I hope this is an appropriate place. There is a discussion at Talk:Gwar about how to write the name of the band's bar. It could use more opinions because there are very few people that have weighed in so far. Thank you. In loco parenti (talk) 11:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Proposal of interest

Members of this WikiProject and anybody who works on music-related articles might be interested in a proposal I've started. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Plagiarized content in The Cooper Brothers article

Hi all. I'm reporting this here because I don't really know what to do about it and I hoped that some others here might know. While doing some small edits today (adding wikilinks etc) to The Cooper Brothers article, I've realised that almost all of the "Biography" sub-section is plagiarized from the band's official website here. I've no idea if this a problem or not, but my understanding is that plagiarized text is normally not welcome on Wikipedia. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 15:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Kohoutek1138: Have reported it for investigation, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 20:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

• Update: It was a reverse copyvio of Wikipedia, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Trout Mask Replica, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Update to peer review page

Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Rock music/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.

The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 23:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Touring members on a band member timeline

Touring members usually shouldn't be on a band's timeline, but is it a good idea to include them with bands that have instrumental vacancies? Paramore doesn't have an official bassist. Paramore didn't have an official drummer for many years. Chicago didn't have an official guitarist (unless you count occasional guitar played by Bill Champlin on Chicago 16) from 1980 to 1984. Chicago's touring guitarist played guitar on Chicago XIV and Chicago 16. Kart2401real (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Muse RM notification

An editor has requested for Muse (disambiguation) to be moved to Muse. Since you had some involvement with Muse (disambiguation), you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Whether or not to move depends mostly on the question if a) Muses (the ancient Greek goddesses) is the primary topic, or b) Muses and Muse (band) are comparably significant, and there is no primary topic. ExcitedEngineer (talk) 12:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Musicians who committed suicide categories at CfD

Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies has an RFC for a possible alternative format for singles discography tables. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 01:27, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice

I have nominated Frank Klepacki for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm _Talk 00:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

AfD with possible canvassing

{{Section link}}: required section parameter(s) missing I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me if replying off my talk page. Thank you. 05:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 23:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Request for comment on the Måneskin talk page

Hi, I got here from the section on how to publicize a Request for Comment, so I hope this is an appropriate place. There is a discussion at Talk:Måneskin about the inclusion of personal information which is irrelevant to the band's music career and music style in general. Violation of guidelines and common practices are also on the line. It would be very helpful to have more opinions because there are very few people that have weighed in so far. Thank you.--ParoleSonore (talk) 11:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

2nd FAR on punk rock

I have started the second FAR on the "punk rock" article, so I invite you to discuss improvements on the article quality. --George Ho (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danko Jones discography

There is an Articles For Deletion discussion about Danko Jones discography at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danko Jones discography. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Underoath

Underoath, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Aircorn (talk) 00:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone (song)#Requested move 1 September 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone (song)#Requested move 1 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 02:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

RfC started on track listing sections

An RfC has been started at MOS:MUSIC relating to song articles. All comments are welcome. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:22, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Let the Bad Times Roll#Requested move 30 September 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Let the Bad Times Roll#Requested move 30 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:14, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice

I have nominated The Greencards for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm _Talk 03:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

School of Thought

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 10#School of Thought about album School of Thought by American rock band Ded. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Heavy metal music under 2nd FAR

I created the 2nd FA review on heavy metal music. Please your contributions to the article are welcome. --George Ho (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Devoid of Faith and Monster X (band) for deletion

If anyone has reliable sources or other ideas, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devoid of Faith and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monster X (band). --Animalparty! (talk) 03:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Sex Pistols

Hey there. I started a discussion about the FA status of Sex Pistols article at Talk:Sex Pistols#FA review needed? George Ho (talk) 18:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Help needed regarding my article Gäy (a Danish rock band): formating

Hey there :) Can anyone be bothered to format my article about Gäy? Its a great Danish rock band. I'm a biased source as their producer, but they're notable and I did my best to stick to the facts. But also a total noob on Wikipedia (first activity), so a helping hand would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warm Jet Guitar (talk • contribs) 02:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Ludovico Technique (band)

Hey all! I have created an article on the band Draft: Ludovico Technique (band). The group has reemerged over the past year after a long hiatus. I'd love feedback if anyone has any :) Thank you! CorinneWestbrook (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @CorinneWestbrook:, some of the references are good while others I don't know. There is a list of reliable sources at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources you may find useful, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)