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Move discussion at Guayana Esequiba

An editor has requested that Guayana Esequiba be moved to Guyana–Venezuela territorial dispute, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. --WMrapids (talk) 20:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion for 2023 Guayana Esequiba crisis

An editor has requested that 2023 Guayana Esequiba crisis be moved to 2023 Guyana–Venezuela crisis, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion.--WMrapids (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Please see the following Request for Comment at President of Venezuela:

• Is the presidency of Maduro currently disputed?

--NoonIcarus (talk) 20:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

POV tags

Just to keep track of the Wikiproject's latest articles to be tagged with POV, and also so I can remember:

• Daktari Ranch affair
• Guarimba
• Operation Gideon (2020)
• Venezuelan opposition

NoonIcarus (talk) 12:55, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

The 2002 Venezuelan coup attempt article has apparently been tagged as such as well... --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, adding another one: Rupununi Rebellion. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:06, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

I'll try start solving the tags, striking the articles that are solved. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

• Caracazo. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
• Popular Will. --NoonIcarus (talk) 03:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
• Carlos Andrés Pérez. --NoonIcarus (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Elisabeth Burgos-Debray#Requested move 5 March 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Elisabeth Burgos-Debray#Requested move 5 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 12:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Open Arbcom case

Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Venezuelan_politics.—S Marshall T/C 10:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Venezuelan politics opened

An arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Venezuelan politics. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Venezuelan politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Venezuelan politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

What is the decision that is questioned here? Evidence with respect to what?--ReyHahn (talk) 15:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

@ReyHahn: The scope is "Conduct in the topic area of Venezuelan politics, with a specific focus on named parties". The preliminary statements can be found here: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Venezuelan politics/Preliminary statements, and said parties are S Marshall (filer), WMrapids and myself. --NoonIcarus (talk) 13:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this vocabulary is so foreign to me that I don't know how I can be of help. In the Spanish version there is no Arbitration committee, and just seeing how leguleyo and absurb the subject is, it seems to me that it is not so necessary to have one of those either. Good luck to all parties, they will definitely need it! Oscar_. (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The relevance beyond any individuals is that one proposal under consideration is to make Venezuelan politics a contentious topic; contentious topics are subject to special editing rules. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

What kind of rules?--ReyHahn (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The restrictions include page protections and revert limits, among others. From what I gather, it's up for the Arbitration Committee to decide which to apply, if any. --NoonIcarus (talk) 18:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, I went down the rabbit hole, and while I still have a lot of reading to do, I have a more clear picture, and I'm going to allow myself to weigh in, if only for you NoonIcarus and SandyGeorgia, who have been spending too much time onto this.

I don't think it would be the end of the world if the issue ends up as a contentious topic, I have no proof, but I also don't doubt that there are outside interests trying to whitewash the government's image, much more in English than in Spanish. For example, my experience in Spanish are mostly from individuals still in infatuation with the government.

But in English it seems like another beast, quite scary honestly. And I think the more people are paying attention to it, the harder it will be for those interests to lobby Wikipedia.

That is my perception and I know I might sound just naïve, but let me tell you the status-quo is not the best either, it still amazed me that articles like the ones about the Derwick founders are still painted as renaissance men, instead of the pillagers they truly are, but that is the way it is, current policies have failed to trace malicious actors, unless they commit the stupidity of getting thousands of socks, but this will not always be the case.

Just that, let's also take care of ourselves, Oscar_. (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Developing Countries WikiContest

Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest (WP:DCWC)! Think of it as a WikiCup but only for articles and media on developing countries.

Competitors may submit GAs, GTs, FAs, FTs, FLs, FPs, and DYK and ITN entries from/on developing countries to gain points and proceed to further rounds. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs.

Venezuela is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest, so articles related to it are eligible to be submitted to the contest. I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content!

Append your name to the DCWC signup page today!

Best wishes, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 10:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Nicolás Maduro

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Nicolás Maduro#Edit request on 27 March 2024, Nicolás Maduro biography error. , which is within the scope of this WikiProject. The discussion concerns whether using the word "dictator" in the first sentence should be allowed under MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE. Liu1126 (talk) 02:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Country data advice

Please, need your advice at Template talk:Country data Venezuela#V. Thank you in advance! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 05:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Change {Navy|Venezuela} and {Army|Venezuela}

Well, the editors said that this was a controversial edits, so how it's necessary a consensus to make this edit and i came here to show it. [1]

The first one is the Army flag: i made a svg based in an article in the army site talking about the flag: Flag: [2] Source: [3]

The second one is the Navy flag: i think is a good idea we change the {Navy|Venezuela} template because it uses the naval ensing and not the navy flag. Flag: [4] Source: [5] Felipe Fidelis Tobias (talk) 20:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Do we have an article for Esequibo escalation since March?

Moved from User talk:NoonIcarus by Kingsif (talk) 14:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Because I can't see one and Guyana–Venezuela territorial dispute is getting long (without, as far as I can see, any information from this year). Kingsif (talk) 13:55, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Kingsif this question should be asked at the Venezuela WikiProject talk page; NoonIcarus is topic banned from Venezuelan politics, broadly construed, so asking the question on his talk page puts him in a spot. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Ditto. I'd be happy to comment on this once the restriction is lifted, though. --NoonIcarus (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me on that, I'll remove it here and take it there. Kingsif (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikiproject

Would anyone be interested in joining a sub project of WP:Anthropology on oral tradition? WP's coverage of this is quite poor atm imo Kowal2701 (talk) 17:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kowal2701: It would be very interesting! I'm sure that there's plenty of information that can be found about the Wayuu. I have many projects currently, but I'd be happy to give a hand, and I think I speak for other members as well. --NoonIcarus (talk) 22:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

That’d be great thanks, the page is at WP:WikiProject Anthropology/Oral tradition taskforce Kowal2701 (talk) 06:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)