Talk:Bradford Island

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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Bradford Island, in the Sacramento–San Joaquin River Delta

• ... that the decommissioned minesweeper USS Lucid was used as a warehouse by a scrap metal dealer on Bradford Island (pictured) for 18 years, and was converted to a museum ship after he was murdered by a neighbor? Source: Henley, David C (1 December 2016). "Homicide determined ship's fate". Nevada Appeal. Lahontan Valley News.
  • ALT1: ... that goats are forbidden from "running rampant" on the levees at Bradford Island (pictured), which have required repair on three separate occasions? Source: "Landowner Notice 9/3/2015" (PDF). Bradford Island Reclamation District 2059. 3 September 2015.

• Reviewed: (This is my second DYK nomination, I heard once that your first five were "freebies" but I have one review I made if I need to use one)
• Comment: Created on September 16, expanded from 345 characters to 3496 characters on September 20 (excluding infobox, reference section and template).

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 01:18, 27 September 2020 (UTC).

• Both proposed hooks are interesting to me and are well-referenced, there are no obvious instances of copyvio, the article is new enough, and you don't have to worry about QPQ quite yet. Well done! ⑉⑉Mccunicano☕️ 01:07, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bradford Island/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 16:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• The lead feels a little brief, I would aim for a sentence or two from each section of the article to compose one reasonable-sized para for the lead.
• I would also work to avoid very short sentences, perhaps merging for more engaging prose.
• USGS is used but not explained or linked in the infobox.
• "Sacramento–San Joaquin River delta" Delta appears to be capitalised in our article. But you've already linked it in this section anyway...
• ""Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta" in the infobox does have that capital D but uses a hyphen instead of an en-dash.
• No need to pipe Jersey Island.
• "(used to.." why in parentheses?
• Avoid single-sentence paragraphs (as you have at the start of the Levees section)
• "n repairs done by" completed rather than "done"
• No need to link common English words like goat.
• There's talk in here of 100 people needing evacuation, are earlier Census stats available about that? What's the demographic of the inhabitants of the island?
• "wooden ship" isn't a particularly useful link.
• peat is overlinked.
• " fire district, the fire was" avoid repeat of "fire", maybe switch the second for "conflagration" or similar.
• "3.6 acres " convert for consistency.
• Don't force refs into two cols.
• Make surre refs are properly formatted, e.g. ref 1 is just a link, it needs things like publilshher name, access date etc, and need to be consistently formatted with all the othher refs.
• Avoid SHOUTING in rref titles.

That's a starter review, on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I have taken care of the stuff here as best I can, as well as expanded the article a little. Here is what I did:

• Fixed the overlinking, dumb pipes to old redirects, minor grammar issues, et cetera. Single-paragraph sentences have been expanded out.
• I don't really know how the references are displayed; I thought maybe I was using the template to display them in two columns, but instead it seems I am just using the default <references></references> tags, so it will just display according to whatever the reader's default display settings(?) are. If you think it's a good idea to figure out how to force them into single-column mode, I will do that.
• The "fire fire" thing, I rewrote the sentence to not have them so close together; didn't like the idea of saying "conflagration" but I can do that also if you want.
• Fixed the reference (was a normal gnis cite from {{gnis}} which I expanded out into a {{cite web}} invocation. I think this is what you were talking about with the shouting in ref titles, since I don't see any in allcaps now.
• The population figures are a little confusing: different sources tend to say different things. My impression is that some figures are counting every landowner as a "resident", while some figures are only counting the number of people whose primary residence is on the island, and newspapers just kinda say whatever. I think the numbers might be quite different due to people not spending much time on the island (for example, the Reclamation District itself's address is on nearby Bethel Island).

Anyway, there is some new stuff as well; thanks for taking the time to give it a look and I will wait happily for the full review. jp×g 23:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

• Lead is still too short, especially now you've expanded the article further.
• It's geological not geographic in USGS.
• Make sure all units are converted.
• The collapsed table needs row/col scopes per MOS:DTT.
• Webb Tract, San Joaquin River and False River are overlinked.
• Professional Mariner appears to be a journal so should be in italics.

Bit more to look at. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:18, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I have done these things, as well as tried to bang out a decent-looking lead. Lemme know what you think. jp×g 21:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

JPxG hey, looking good. Just think the lead could use a touch more expansion, and one thing from the article, what does HMP mean? Where I live that's "Her Majesty's Prison"..... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Oh, dear. I've clarified on the HMP (here it means Hazard Mitigation Program) and did a bit more with the lede. I've tried to include everything in it from the article that isn't just "list of things that happened here". What do you think? jp×g 02:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

JPxG great, happy with that so passing, good work. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

New sauces

Contra Costa LAFCO

• Municipal Service Review: Miscellaneous Services, April 17 2013, CCLAFCO

• Outside urban limit line per street lighting map. This document talks about the ferry service in great detail.

• Law Enforcement MSR

• On the big map, it's designated CSA P-6 (Countywide Police Protection Services).
• Beat patrols have been established for an extensive period of time, so patrol Deputies are familiar with the areas they serve, whether it be in the extreme rural areas of the County or within unincorporated urban pockets. Only one area was identified as difficult to serve, that being Bradford Island and Webb Tract, which are only accessible by ferry from Jersey Island.

• Supervisorial District Map

• III (same as the census tract, census block, and census block group for 2010)

• [1]

• Majority zoned A-2, with two large parcels near the north zoned A-4.
• Total of 64 parcels on the island. Two appear to be docks over the water. Two at the southeast cover mostly water and very small amounts of land on the levees, with the southernmost of those two being the ferry dock.

Will add more as I find them. jp×g 11:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• CoCo Reclamation Services MSR Final

• Pg. 140 is a whole section on Bradford, but there's stuff about it elsewhere in the document.
• LAFCO records indicate that there have been no boundary changes for RD 2059 since 1965²⁰⁷
• Lots of references in this section which would provide more information.

• Parks and Cemetery MSR

• Not much of interest. It's part of the Byron Brentwood Knightsen Union Cemetery District, since it's unincorporated. Page 246 (real page 254).

• RCD and Mosquito MSR

• Watershed map on document page 17 (page number 11); BI is in East County Delta Drainages.

• Fire MSR

• The only parts of the County meeting the suburban/rural standard are census tracts 3010 (Bethel Island, Jersey Island, Holland Tract and Bradford Island)
• The District also provides service outside its bounds. The District serves Quimby, Bradford and Webb islands, although these are not within its bounds. In 2007, the District responded to two fires on Quimby Island, three EMS incidents on Bradford Island, and a smoke investigation on Webb Tract.
• Talks about potential annexation of Bradford Island to another fire district.

• Water and Wastewater Municipal Services Review Executive Summary

• Not part of any water or wastewater district.

• PUBLIC HEALTHCARE SERVICES MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW

• Not part of any district.

• Reclamation Districts

• Brief overview of Bradford Island.

• County Service Areas

• Year formed: 1960
• A JPA was formed in 1987 between RD 2026 and RD 2059 to operate the ferry for limited public transportation between the two islands. Under the terms of the JPA, each district must approve the annual budget for the Delta Ferry Authority and make contributions to the JPA as agreed upon by both parties. (from Contra Costa LAFCO Reclamation Services MSR, 2009)

Other

• Early Reclamation and Abandonment of the Central Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta

• p59: Webb Tract and its one-time western sector, Bradford Island, were leveed in 1870 and 1871, respectively.
• p61: The first seeding of small grain on Bradford Island covered 700 acres by early 1873, when houses, barns, and a wharf were built.
• p62: As noted for cultivated Sherman Island, Bradford Island carried many sheep, especially in winter. Its owner lost 4,000 sheep to drowning in the course of several floods of the early 1870s, abandoning the island in 1875.⁵³The land drainage venture at Bradford Island was aborted after mid-winter and June floods in 1873 and 1874, and in the spring of 1875.

• [2]

• Page 7, islands by how many floods since 1900.

• [3]

• Stuff about the islands in general.

• [pubs.usgs.gov/circ/circ1182/pdf/11Delta.pdf]

• Early history (pre-levees)

• Envisioning Futures for the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta

• Good stuff.

jp×g 12:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

More good shit: Historical Evaluation of the Delta Waterways, 1978. jp×g 11:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Sosnowski drama. jp×g 04:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

More board drama. jp×g 06:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

More drama. jp×g 06:44, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

More. jp×g 06:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Levees. jp×g 06:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Drama. jp×g 06:50, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/CONTRA-COSTA-COUNTY-Delta-is-a-graveyard-for-2666161.php Junk, https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/03/19/commercial-vessels-targeted-in-cleanup-of-delta-junk/ junk. jp×g 07:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Random sea of tabs

(have not assessed whether they're relevant/reliable/etc):

• https://web.archive.org/web/20140720182125/http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/repositoryfiles/ca3311p4-62696.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images2012/road/Delta_island_flood_history_compared.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/historic_steamboat_slough.htm
• https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~24355~890046?id=1-1-24355-890046&name=General+chart,+San+Francisco+Bay#
• https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~24357~890048?cic=RUMSEY~8~1&widgetType=detail&nsip=1
• http://snugharbor.net/historic_steamboat_slough.htm
• https://archive.org/details/scenesofwondercu00olmsrich
• http://snugharbor.net/images-historic/1901-1999suarveys/SanJoaquin/1906sj_survey.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images-historic/1901-1999suarveys/SanJoaquin/1906_sjriver_0005.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images-historic/1901-1999suarveys/SanJoaquin/1906sj_survey.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images-historic/1901-1999suarveys/SanJoaquin/1908-bradford-sherman.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images-historic/1901-1999suarveys/SanJoaquin/1906_sjriver_0022.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/videos/steamboat-sacramento/Steamboat%20Slough2.pdf
• https://education.savingthebay.org/wp-content/guides/The-Formation-of-San-Francisco-Bay.pdf
• http://snugharbor.net/images2011/maps/1957_thompson-dissertation.pdf
• https://cawaterlibrary.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Delta-Pool-1960-report.pdf
• https://cawaterlibrary.net/document/sacramento-san-joaquin-delta-dilemma/?post_type=product&_sf_s=delta
• https://www.google.com/search?q=DWR-DRMS+2008+delta+type%3Apdf
• https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2012/07/17/delta-island-ejects-board-member-who-hasnt-paid-his-taxes/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20180819052421/http://deltarevision.com/wrong-maps-of-the-delta.html
• https://web.archive.org/web/20171223004557/http://www.water.ca.gov/frankstract/docs/(4)Flooded%20Islands%20Baseline%20Report.pdf
• http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/csa/reclboar.pdf
• https://web.archive.org/web/20181110194425/http://www.deltarevision.com/Delta_maps/maps_1980_to_1989.htm
• https://web.archive.org/web/20181110194410/http://www.deltarevision.com/1990_to_1999.htm
• https://web.archive.org/web/20190414014002/http://deltarevision.com/1848-1989_docs/1909-ryer-flood.pdf
• https://web.archive.org/web/20190414015353/http://deltarevision.com/1848-1989_docs/1913_delta_floods_summary.pdf
• (source for article) https://www.portofstockton.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Early_Reclamation_Abandonment_Central_Sacramento-San_Joaquin_Delta.pdf
• https://www.portofstockton.com/history-of-rough-and-ready/
• https://www.portofstockton.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Wood_1973_Rise_of_Stockton.pdf
• https://www.slc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1978-DeltaWaterways.pdf
• https://scholarlycommons.pacific.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=cop-facreports

jp×g 21:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Pre FAC comments

I didn't realize you'd already had the old topographic maps in here, so I'd spent several minutes getting File:Bradford landing map 1910 2.png and putting it into commons

• The first thing that stands out to me will probably be a pain in the arse to deal with - at a FAC, you'll almost certainly be asked to replace the title as page numbers with the specific article titles themselves. For instance, the article title for " "Page 59". The Sacramento Bee. Sacramento, California. 11 May 1962. p. 59." is actually "Weather, Melting Snow Sink Trouting Prospects"
• " in 1855, California's state legislature passed an act allowing citizens to purchase tracts of swampland for $1 per acre (equivalent to $22.00 in 2021)." - Where'd you get that inflation figure? I ran it through {{inflation}} in my user sandbox at got $28 for 2020?

More to come. Hog Farm _Talk 05:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

• "In March 1970, Standard Oil began directionally drill a well under Bradford Island " - Something seems off here gramatically
• "The fire was spread to the Webb Tract by burning shingles" - the link here for shingles is going to the disease
• "In 1923, 800 acres (320 ha) of asparagus was grown on Bradford Island" - This appears to be a repeat of information stated earlier
• Is it known why asparagus was no longer grown on the island?
• " As marijuana was illegal in California at the time (it would not be legalized until 2016)," - you'll likely be asked to add a source supporting the legalization of weed in CA in '16
• "  is located in the Byron Brentwood Knightsen Union Cemetery District." - Missing the first word of this sentence?
• "In 1999, stripers to six pounds were caught at Bradford Island" - It kinds looks like there's suppose to be a section break before this
• "16 gas wells and three natural gas lines owned by PG&E, as of 2008.[220]

$21.6 million in assets, according to the Sacramento Bee in 2008.[220]

"Among those unlikely to be saved" in 2008.[221] "Our argument is that at some point in the future, you abandon that island".[222]" - Is this part incomplete?

• The stray material after the ferry section (which looks like it may still be in progress) has some WP:PROSELINE issues

Good work on this one! It's been a major improvement over the stub state it was in. Hog Farm _Talk 04:05, 22 September 2021 (UTC)