Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2019/Archive 1

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Creation of this article

Without violating WP:BEANS, I suspect that there will likely be suggestions to delete this page as per the previous discussion. The page was, in my view, appropriately deleted due to speculative content and WP:CRYSTAL. However, given that new sources have now become available (specifically, the confirmation of Norwegian participation), I believe that it is now appropriate for this article to exist. Comments are, of course, welcomed. -ThatJosh (talk) 18:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Can we please blacklist the IP vandalizing this page? They’re boasting on my Discord server about it and it’s really unfair on people who are actually trying to help. Serhatserhatserhat (talk) 08:11, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Protect Page

I suggest that we semi-protect this wiki, as too much vandalism is occurring due to anonymous IPs.

-KayeL (talk) 03:50, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Spain

TVE confirmed a new season of Operación Triunfo for Autumn 2018, but it is not confirmed yet it will serve as the Spanish national final for the 2019 Contest. So Spanish participation is not really confirmed yet. Sar2de (talk) 09:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2018

84.83.153.63 (talk) 13:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

1 ukranie release me agnes 2 israel host rehab amy 3 norway unwritten natascha 4 phipplines amy this is life 5 canada stereo love 6 zambia cher believe 7 azerbaijan mama do pixie dott 8 ethiopia mambo aleyna 9 venezuela dragostea din tei o-zone 10 ijsland monica europa 11 nederland im alive mara 12 belgie a-ha take on me 13 usa dancefloor cascada 14 england all said tatu 15 duistland elle ella kate ryan 16 polen here i am sertab 17 rusland celine dion my heart will go on 18 ghana talk my love 19 servie when love takes over david guetta 20 bulgarije im queen 21 frankrijk do it right 22 thailand i remember u 23 macedonie please stay rennata 24 roemenie bad boys 25 moldavie funny love 26 kroatie give it back people voted 1-7 8 10 12 points which country wins

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Germany

Thomas Schreiber, ESC-Master of Germany, has confirmed that they will enter the 2019-Contest: --Bundesbirne (talk) 17:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2018

for France to be coloured purple because of its intention to do the 2019 contest. FrancisMoore2988 (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. L293D (☎ • ✎) 21:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Jerusalem as a host city

According to the Mayor of Tel Aviv, this city rulling out to hosting in 2019. That's means for the moment that Jerusalem is the only city to probably host the contest. Here are the source http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-mulls-venue-for-hosting-eurovision-2019-finals-1001235864 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlechuga86 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

• The only suitable venue in Israel is the Jerusalem Arena. All other options are none realistic.Rzg (talk) 07:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Slovakia

Should Slovakia be listed under 'other countries' since it aired this years contest? It could suggest a potential Slovak return. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.87.206.64 (talk) 15:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Denmark

It is only the head of the Danish fan club that made a statement, not DR themselves. I think we should remove Denmark for now.--Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2018

84.83.153.63 (talk) 18:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

debut usa kazakhstan liechtenstein

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 19:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2018

Ronald firaoofa (talk) 19:12, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

good country israel

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- AxG / ✉  19:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Add call for boycott from Israel

Call for boycott from a Knesset member. Source:[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.53.163.143 (talk) 07:38, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Section about french RT boycott

Can someone please review the RT article that is used to say that "many French fans had expressed their hopes for a boycott of the event". This is totally inaccurate: RT cites some tweets by random users, not fans, and some of them are not even french. I'm pretty sure those can be found in every country/language. The french fan organisations are certainly not calling for a boycott, and contrary to the other countries listed, no political leader has suggested this. The whole "France" point should probably be removed. 92.88.248.161 (talk) 21:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

The i.p. is totally correct. Russia Today cites tweets from a few random Twitter users. That's pretty far from "many French fans had expressed their hopes for a boycott of the event." It's up to those adding such claims to provide sources to back them up, not up to the i.p. to prove a negative. Accordingly, I'm going to go ahead and remove that section. Valenciano (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

I think the decision to remove that section was correct. The article is not coherent. Île flottante (talk) 09:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Another city in israel want to host the event

Petah Tikva source: https://www.mako.co.il/tv-live-at-night/articles/Article-b3d6926e9956361006.htm (In Hebrew) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.21.198 (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

United Kingdom

I heared about The United Kingdom that famous artists James Blunt and Robbie Williams announced interests in competing at the Eurovision Song Contest for upcoming editions. I hope these things would be listed on the other countries section. It is an indirect link towards interests in UK's participation. Sadiemydog1 (talk) 13:18, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Petah Tikva

Petah Tikva is not a real proposal, it's just some fan managed a petition online. Please remove it, cause no official of the city municipality claim that. Sokuya (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I was wrong anyway. Sorry. Sokuya (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Germany

NDR has confirmed participation in the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 in Israel. It should be added to the list of participant countries, making it 16 countries at the time of writing. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.245.42 (talk) 17:42, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Invitation

I have read in several sources today that Kara wants to invite the Gulf states and basically all Arab states personally to participate in ESC 2019. I do not know if it is appropriate to add to the article. [3].--BabbaQ (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I think that it should be included and is relevant to the page. I've added Tunisia for now, as it is specifically cited in Kara's tweet and also has membership. But ultimately I think that all of them should be posted on the page.

KayeL

06:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

It has importance but as a summarized inclusive explanation along with showing Israel's openness or at least not trying to stand in the way for any country who wants to participate, as Kara also acts as a government representative. That also serves clarification from past cases of not accepting specific delegations/persons to certain country, for varied reasons. However, for now there aren't reports stating he/anyone from the government/from EBU - directly communicated and got responses from any of this other broadcasters, which also eventually never took part in the contest. BTW @KayeL:, all of the north African and south-western Asian countries are within the EBU signal reach with almost all of them having member broadcasters, and some intended to participate in the past, but also for this, there is still no need to dedicate a separate section repeating the same Kara announcement to each country. Its best to describe within the general prose about EBU's invitation to each member, joined with Kara's pointing out these countries together, as well his reference to non EBU members in the area. אומנות (talk) 12:42, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

On the same sense and as further clarification to my view, if any of the mid-eastern/Gulf countries makes his own direct response/general participation-intention, it thus gives specific info from its side, which reasons for the other countries which are listed separately under EBU members/non members. אומנות (talk) 13:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Finland

Yle has not confirmed that Finland will participate. Finland should be removed from the list. The link doesn't proof anything. Merimiesei (talk) 10:44, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Why do you think that link doesn't prove anything to you Encyclopediafanatic (talk) 19:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Czech Republic & Croatia

I believe that the Czech and Croatian broadcasters announcing information regarding their national finals and what to do "next" is enough evidence of provisional interest. It is provisional, after all. An official statement is not necessarily required.

KayeL

06:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I'd suggest we wait for a bit more information about these two countries. It's very borderline with the sources we have so far. It's like considering Iceland to withdraw cause they have a provisional petition already, which also would not yet be a fully correct fact . Waiting doesn't hurt, but especially in the case of Croatia it'd be better and safer to get a bit more information until we call them a participant. So Hood 10:10, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

• @So Hood: I don't think you understand what the provisional interest section is for. We do not need an official confirmation, but if a country has confirmed that they intend to compete then they are expressing their provisional interest. This is not the same as Iceland, as there is no such category as being "provisionally interested in withdrawal". There is no reason to wait for more sources – Croatia has expressed explicit interest in competing again and is brainstorming selection methods while the Czech Republic is already planning their national final – this is provisional interest. If you want the section to be turned into 100% cold hard confirmations, then that is something that should be discussed with WikiProject Eurovision, not here. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:09, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree with @So Hood:. Looking at the source for the information I am not convinced. Bors has been "expressing interest" for years now. "I hope we can participate long term/next year" and "I'd like to make a national final on par with Melodifestivalen" has been his spiel for ages. His wish this year is hardly proof of even "provisional interest", let along participation. While it's more than likely that Czechia will participate again this year, Bors's hopes are definitely not something to base this article on. Very vague and very unreliable, it would be good to wait for some more news to at least "compare" this to before listing Czechia as officially participating (I don't necessarily mean it has to be a solid confirmation from ČT).

--Avenflight (talk) 17:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

i read that hapoel jerusalem basketball club does not want to vacate the pais arena for more than 2 weeks

i read it on escforum.net. that might prevent that venue from being used.84.212.111.156 (talk) 10:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks?Rhysy54 (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

there is a movement in norway that is trying to prevent participation in jerusalem

according to this article: https://www.nrk.no/urix/haper-pa-boikott-av-eurovision-song-contest-i-jerusalem-1.14048495 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.212.111.156 (talk) 20:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm sure it won't stop them, like last year, or the year before, etc. -- AxG / ✉  11:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC) it should still be added to the list of people wanting their countries to boicott the contest.84.212.111.156 (talk) 21:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I remember you! Hello again! I see you are still holding out that flame :p Rhysy54 (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2018

Could someone change "Religious demands" to "Religious requests" and "in which he demanded that the event not violate religious laws" to requested in the section Controversies? Whomst've'd (talk) 16:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

 Already done by AxG (talk · contribs) —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Iceland

Will iceland participate in the eurovision song contest Encyclopediafanatic (talk) 16:42, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes/No Rhysy54 (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Australia

Will ipbc invite australia to eurovision song contest Encyclopediafanatic (talk) 09:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

As per your other entry for Iceland, I'm not sure speculation without fact is worth posting anything in here. I do hope you won't be making an entry for every country here... Rhysy54 (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2018 (UTC) 18:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Cost

Section 1.2 Possible venues (though the article text has Potential host venues) includes "Israeli finance minister Moshe Kahlon also stated in an interview that the event would be solely held in Jerusalem and estimated its cost at 120 million Israeli shekels (approximately 24 million euros).[3]", 13 May 2018. According to Globes 11 June 2018 "The total cost of hosting the Eurovision Song Contest in Israel in 2019 will be €35-45 million (NIS 150-190 million)".. Mcljlm (talk) 11:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

84.83.153.63 (talk) 10:59, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

algeria egypte morocco peru saudi arabia kosovo liechtenstein

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 12:13, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

New Zealand in Eurovision?

The following article talks about the possible invitation of New Zealand to make its Eurovision debut.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104965399/nz-would-be-very-welcome-to-join-eurovision-eu-trade-commissioner-says — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.247.110.191 (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

That's from the EU trade commissioner though, who has no influence at the EBU. -- AxG / ✉  21:55, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2018

84.83.153.63 (talk) 20:54, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

ik hou van alle landen meedoen aan eurovisie songfestival

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- AxG / ✉  21:05, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Either unlock this page or keep it up to date

It's been several days since news broke that 4 Israeli cities will bid to host the contest, yet this page still doesn't reflect that. Mention of Tel Aviv's bid is nowhere to be seen. But Petah Tikva and Beersheba are shown as bidding when they're not. I don't understand why this page has to be always locked but if it must be, then at least keep it current. This page isn't much use to anyone when it's so behind the facts. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Make an account and post then. Or post your sources here, and a registered user can update. Rhysy54 (talk) 18:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

I have an account. The page is constantly locked so that no-one can update it. Why is the page even locked? And by who?Vauxhall1964 (talk) 11:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Presumably locked to prevent persistent vandalism. If you have an account then register it so you can edit. Or post your sources here and someone else can do it. Rhysy54 (talk) 21:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of Eurovision investigation in Dubai.

Hey guys. I found a source citing that Dubai will investigate Eurovision events and send a delegation. In the hopes of seeing the MENA countries debuting. Sadiemydog1 (talk) 11:17, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

That looks more about the Eurovision network than the song contest; and doesn't mention 2019. OZOO (t) (c) 11:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

References

Inclusion of Catalonia

Please discuss the arguments for and against including Catalonia here, to avoid further edit warring. (((TPG))) (stalk) 14:07, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

• Obviously I'm running on a translation from Catalan but there is nothing in the sole source that I can see to backup the phrase In the coming months, the TVC will apply for full membership of the EBU, and even if they were, there is nothing to justify including that phrase in this article (not every member enters). The crucial sentence is, as far as I can see, completely unsourced, and should be removed. Attribute [...] and any material whose verifiability is challenged or likely to be challenged to a reliable, published source using an inline citation The cited source must clearly support the material as presented in the article. OZOO (t) (c) 14:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support – In my opinion, by removing the section about Catalonia's attempt to enter the competition with a separate broadcaster, we remove information which would be useful to anyone reading this article. For example, when a reader reads in the JESC article that Wales participates with its own broadcaster, they might as well wonder why Catalonia doesn't participate in any Eurovision contest. And that section adresses exactly that. The "Other countries" section header also doesn't mean that every EBU member on not-member listed below is an independent state. Kosovo, for example, which is listed in this section is not an independent state. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 14:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

+1 (((TPG))) (stalk) 14:24, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Surely the same question could be asked about why Scotland, the Faroe Islands or, given the presence of Australia, Botswana are absent? This is the 2019 article, not the Countries in the Eurovision Song Contest article. OZOO (t) (c) 14:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I think the Catalonia info should be included in both articles. As to the other countries/territories - if you have any sources saying that they are attempting to join, feel free to add them. (((TPG))) (stalk) 14:30, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't even have any sources saying that Catalonia is attempting to join. OZOO (t) (c) 14:33, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

The source in the article writes clearly that all these years, Catalonia wants to join. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 14:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

But, being an extract from an unpublished book and containing no quotes from anyone at Televisió de Catalunya, does not say they are actively attempting to enter. What is the quote (in Catalan or English) that backs up the contentious phrase "In the coming months, the TVC will apply for full membership of the EBU"? OZOO (t) (c) 14:40, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I see no one has managed to find a source saying that TVC will apply for full membership in the coming months. Despite that, this lie remains in the article. OZOO (t) (c) 12:56, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Firstly, let's go add a section about Catalonia in the mentioned article. And as User:That's Pretty Good said, let's leave this section here, like we do with Kosovo, Kazakhstan etc. even though nothing actually changes about these states each year; they're just attempting to enter the competition. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 14:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

🔝 Done. [4] (((TPG))) (stalk) 14:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2018

Sweden artist and song reveal date is 9th March 2019 141.8.113.127 (talk) 06:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:14, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done (https://www.escxtra.com/2018/09/12/melfest-2019-dates-confirmed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=melfest-2019-dates-confirmed) —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 15:06, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2018

Ukraine will no longer participate as their brodcaster has shut down. Reference: https://twitter.com/uapbc/status/1045005965542797313 2001:8003:874A:7C00:6C8E:F3E6:4C9E:D40D (talk) 09:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done That's not what the tweet says. This says it means they 'may' have to withdraw. Not that they 'will'. Fish+Karate 10:14, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Venue bidding phase

I'm just wondering if all the cities listed in this section actually expressed an interest in hosting or placed a bid? I haven't seen any sources listing Beersheba, for example, as a candidate, and I wonder if some of these are just unofficial ideas of where Eurovision could potentially be held rather than being part of the actual bidding phase which is what this section is normally all about. Thank you. Regularcelery (talk) 10:39, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Only four cities (Eilat, Haifa, Jerusalem, and Tel Aviv) are mentioned as candidate cities in any of the used sources. Therefore support in removing the unsourced content for failing to meet WP:CITE, and in breach of original research. Wes Wolf ^Talk 19:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Why British English, even though Israel uses American?

The 2019 Eurovision is tasking place in Israel, where American English is predominant over UK English. I don't think having the article being written in the spelling style that is not used where the contest itself is set is such a good idea. Glide08 (talk) 17:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Presumably it is because it is an event organised and broadcast by the European Broadcasting Union. Dorsetonian (talk) 18:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

I know, but my point is: The event is organized and broadcast in Israel, and Israelis prefer to use American Spelling, so putting the article in British English is an unwise choice. Glide08 (talk) 08:28, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

The Eurovision Song Contest is organized by the EBU in association with the host broadcaster. Another reason could also be consistency would be odd to have the three ESC articles where Israel hosted using American English while the rest are using British English. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 09:23, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Organised ;)Rhysy54 (talk) 19:09, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

LOL @Rhysy54: when I talk my American English comes out when I edit the article I'm more conscious and use British English hehe. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 19:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Associate EBU members -> Australia

If Australia does compete in 2019 like they have in the past instead of the information being removed from the Associate EBU members section if they are confirmed as a participant I think the information should be moved to the Calls for boycott section since that is what it primarily talks about with Australia right now. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 19:32, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done The section only mentioned that the SBS CEO said that they couldn't imagine not participating and does not include any info about someone or something calling for boycott. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 23:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Actually this wasn't an edit request more of a suggestion really and the source provided actually states the Australian Greens party raised the question of boycotting the contest because of it being held in Israel due to the Gaza border events. Ebeid's quote was in response to those questions of boycotting the event. All it needed was to be re-worded and fleshed out when moved to the boycott section. I went ahead and was WP:BOLD and made the edit myself. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 16:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurovision boycott 2019

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurovision boycott 2019 . ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 14:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Boycott section

The whole boycott section relies on primary sources of the organisations that want to boycott but no secondary coverage exist.If secondary WP:RS will not be found I will remove the section --Shrike (talk) 21:37, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Eurovoix, EuroVisionary and Wiwibloggs are not websites connected to the boycott, so please read the whole section and check the sources better. If you remove info sourced by secondary sources, your edits will be reverted. In the mean time, I'll try finding sources (if they exist) to replace the primary ones. Thank you. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 21:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

@Shrike: Some references were replaced. Also, the sections about Sweden and the UK are just statements in double quotes with a reference to the statement, therefore they're not considered an analysis to require a secondary source. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 22:12, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I have to agree with Dimsar01 most of those sources are from third party reliable sources such as Eurovoix, EuroVisionary and Wiwibloggs. Some are from the official broadcaster of the country as well but overall the sources are not related to the boycott itself they are just reporting on it. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 22:52, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Serbia

The selection will happen sometime in January Sammyham84 (talk) 04:16, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2018

Maltese artist to be selected on the 26th of January 2019. Reference = https://www.showshappening.com/Public-Broadcasting-Services-Limited/X-Factor-Malta-Live-Show 141.8.113.127 (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done The request must be of the form "please change X to Y". Dorsetonian (talk) 18:39, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Other Countries

In the 'Other Countries' section, it says the following: "It is unknown whether an invitation will be issued to associate member Australia." Yet, Australia is listed as a participant in the semi finals? --80.234.239.185 (talk) 14:16, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I've changed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Valenciano (talk) 16:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Artist of Finland

The artist of Finland will most likely be revealed BEFORE 2nd of March, like Saara Aalto in the end of 2017. I hope the Artist-section of Finland is removed. Thank you! From: ESC-fan from Finland. Eliasdert939 (talk) 11:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --DannyS712 (talk) 11:50, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Remove the TBD 2nd of March from the artist section of Finland. Don't put anything else there. Just remove it. The Finnish artist's date isn't on the Finnish Eurovision 2019 Wikipedia. Eliasdert939 (talk) 12:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done As you say, only the song will be selected at that date, something that the attached source also states. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 23:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Moldova

Official Eurovision Tweeted the participating countries. Moldova is there. Eliasdert939 (talk) 11:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

New details to be added to the Eurovision 2019 locked Article

Hi, the hosts for Eurovision 2019 are IPBC (The Israeli Public Broadcasting Cooperation) and The Municipality of Tel Aviv. IPBC published new details that could contribute to the Wikipedia article:

1. The Slogan this is "Dare to Dream" - source: https://www.kan.org.il/Item/?itemId=41770
2. There is a new https://twitter.com/kaneurovision in English
3. The Euro-village will host over 20,000 tourists for 9 days, will be built in the Charles Clore Park. It will consist of 7 areas with music shows with famous Israeli performers, DJs, sports centers, Yoga, Israeli food court and official souvenir stalls.
4. the annual event Tel Aviv White Night (Laila Lavan) will be held shortly after the second semi-final. It's an all night long international festival all over the city of Tel Aviv, with 40 stages - each dedicated to a country participating in Eurovision 2019.

This article is locked, so I'd greatly appreciate moderators hep adding the new information for the public to enjoy. דיגיטל כאן תאגיד השידור הישראלי (talk) 08:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@דיגיטל כאן תאגיד השידור הישראלי:  Not done 1.The slogan has been added since it was announced; didn't you notice? 2.Unrelated to the contest 3. Provide a reliable source 4. We add info about the location only of the Eurovision Village, the Euroclub, the Openinc Ceremony and the Red Carpet. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 17:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dimsar01, The source is the official website of IPBC - the Israeli public broadcasting cooperation that hosts the Eurovision 2019. Here: [5] דיגיטל כאן תאגיד השידור הישראלי (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@דיגיטל כאן תאגיד השידור הישראלי:  Done Thanks, the info about the Eurovision Village together with a map (like in the 2018 article) have been added. —Dimsar01 ^Talk ⌚→ 17:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

The Spanish song doesn't necessarily have to be in Spanish, therefore this page shouldn't confirm it already

In the official rules for submitting entries to OT 2018: Gala Eurovisión, the only thing explicitly stated about the language is the following: "The songs must contain lyrics in any of the official languages of Spain, instrumental songs not being eligible."

The official languages of Spain are Spanish, Galician, Basque and Catalan. Therefore, while it may seem likely, it is not completely confirmed that the Spanish entry will be in Spanish or that it will have any Spanish lyrics, and it should not be indicated that the entry will be in Spanish as it is not confirmed.

http://www.rtve.es/contenidos/basesesc2019.pdf Goprake (talk) 09:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Czechia

why we had written on this page Czechia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michele1999 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

The template has been changed by another user, and this has affected many parts of Wikipedia. I have asked if there is a way to fix it. LexPro4 (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Artist of Austria

I'd like the artist date for Austria added; 1st of January, or at least TBA January. Source: https://eurovoix.com/2018/12/17/austria-orf-to-announce-eurovision-2019-participant-in-new-year/

G KejvinCika (talk) 15:09, 2 January 2019 (UTC)  Not doneIt can be revealed at anytime during the new year so it does not mean it is going to be in January-Sammyham84

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Israel selection

Artist selection on 12 February [6]

Song selection on March [7]

Avco123 (talk) 16:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Kosovo

I believe the following is incorrect:

According to EBU guidelines, Kosovo's participation in 2018 would have been possible due to Portugal recognising Kosovo as a state. Radio Television of Kosovo (RTK) decided not to participate, however still broadcast the contest in 2018. Israel does not recognise Kosovo, but both states foster good relations.

RTK is neither a full member nor an associate member of the EBU, and that's the reason they cannot participate. The recognition of the host country is not necessary. In 2004, when the hosted was held in Istanbul, Cyprus did participate, even though Turkey does not recognise Cyprus. Dinsdagskind (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

References

North Macedonia

Should Macedonia be changed to North Macedonia since the Greek and the Macedonian parliaments accepted the aggreement? It is very likely that the country will compete under the name North Macedonia in Tel Aviv AdamantiosK (talk) 19:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

If it changes to North Macedonia before the contest (and the name is used at the contest), then yes. But for now, "very likely" isn't good enough, and as at fifteen minutes ago eurovision.tv were still saying FYR Macedonia. OZOO (t) (c) 19:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Country names are those used here by Wikipedia, and not the EBU, a good example of this is ... well 'Macedonia', per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia) we use 'Macedonia', but not "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia or any of its abbreviations will otherwise not be used." So yeah we just have to wait and see but "Macedonian officials told the BBC that it would only be used when Greece ratified the Nato accession deal, expected within a few weeks."[8] -- AxG / ✉  23:22, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

The wikipedia page has been renamed to North Macedonia, and since the name has officially changed shouldn't it be changed here as well? AdamantiosK (talk) 12:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Arabic in Italy's song

There's disagreement on the page about how the use of Arabic should be shown for Italy's language. "Soldi" contains a total of 10 words in Arabic (two nearly identical lines of five words each), meaning 97% of the song is in Italian. Past precedent supports that this should be included as a footnote, as was the case with Cyprus 2018 (which contained eight words in Spanish) and Denmark 2018 (which contained 20 words in Icelandic comprising four lines of the song). Hespen (talk) 02:10, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

100% agree. There is barely any Arabic in the song. It should just be a footnote. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 02:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I was under the impression that there was a verse in Arabic but after checking the lyrics, you're right. -ThatJosh (talk) 14:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Verse is a alternative name, of line. DR5996 (talk) 14:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

A verse is a unit of several lines. The Arabic is not used for the entire verse. LexPro4 (talk) 14:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2019

Under 2.1 Visual design, there could be added that the front triangle shows the rough outline of the Israeli border, noted by several internet users. UniFlock (talk) 13:14, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: until an image of the logo is added, it would just confuse readers DannyS712 (talk) 02:27, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Ukraine entrant

The entrant for Ukraine has been decided, so the name of the artist and song should be added on. If someone can do that, that would be appreciated. 78.148.236.61 (talk) 01:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

UA:PBC have stated "The official announcement of a representative of Ukraine at the “Eurovision 2019” will be held on completion of the check of musicians for compliance and after the signing of the contract." so we should wait until they have officially confirmed that MARUV is (or is not) the Ukrainian representative. LexPro4 (talk) 01:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2019

I would like to add the controversy over a TV series, that KAN, the broadcaster of Israel, had planned to air, called Duz Pua about a French Muslim who pretends to be LGBT, who is going to represent France at the Eurovision Song Contest in Israel, who happens to be involved in an terrorist plot with other radicalised muslims. Though it was pitched before the French selection, Bilal Hassan, an LGBT French Muslim, happen to be almost uncanny to the fictional character, sparking controversy in France, who allgedly demanded the TV series removed, or they would withdraw. It was later reported that France didn't threaten to withdraw. Theblueguy23 (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 22:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Abkhaz in the Georgian song

The two words 'Varada' & 'sivarada' are two words common in Georgian folklores originally from the Abkhaz language, so perhaps that should be noted. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 21:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Found two english sources; [9][10] --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Page 63 in the second source: "From Abx wara(y)da , s ә ywarayda ‘refrain in popular songs’. The samerefrain is known in Circ, Ub and Abaz, and from Kab it went to Osset(ESAY II: 92-93). The part s ә - in s ә ywarayda means ‘my’ in all WestCaucasian languages, though the form s ә -y- (with the marker y- of the alienable possession) is purely Ad, which gives reason to regardthe Abx word as borrowed from Ad (pointed out by G. Klimov). Apartfrom Megr, the refrain is known also in West-Geo dialects, and evenin some eastern Geo dialects too, cf. Mox varada-varada (Ghlont’i:223). Cf. also the first part of Megr vara-nani ‘refrain in songs’" --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Northern Sami in Norway's song.

In my view, this should be listed in the column in its own right, not as a footnote. If it were just two lines or something, I could understand, however there is a significant enough portion of the song in Sami to have it noted. This is fair, imo. -ThatJosh (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

The Northern Sami doesn't fill an entire verse or chorus, so per the standard it should be in the footnote, regardless of how often it's repeated. LexPro4 (talk) 23:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Where has this standard been established? The line(s) are repeated enough that it could theoretically create a chorus or two if they were together, so I would argue this policy is not rational and should be changed - if it is the case that exists (i haven't seen it personally) -ThatJosh (talk) 23:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Past precedent, such as in Higher Ground. There are four lines in Icelandic, which could be a chorus if put together but they do not fill an entire chorus on their own. LexPro4 (talk) 23:17, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Just to clear out; Only one line is in Northern Sami (Čajet dan čuovgga), the line (He-lo e loi-la) is just gibberish aka written joik sounds. Volum-ion (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I agree with the first user here, although technically only one line of the lyrics is in Sami, the use of joik throughout the song (and joik fills an entire verse) is significant and joik would usually be thought of as Sami too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radcliffemla (talk • contribs) 20:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Dutch song name

Arcade isn't the confirmed song name yet. Avrotros hasn't given any confirmation and the website on which the name appeared seemed sketchy and is nowhere to be found anymore. Eurovoix isn't a good enough source.

Sorry if this discussion doesn't belong here. This is my first wikipedia edit and I don't have access rights to the article. Eurovision editor (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

You're right, the Eurovoix article is based on a leak of a vague image. I have removed the title and source. Thanks for pointing that out. LexPro4 (talk) 23:50, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 March 2019

I want to edit this page because Rai announced commentators for 2019 contest https://eurovoix.com/2019/03/07/italy-federico-russo-eurovision-2019-commentator/ Michele1999 (talk) 18:29, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done I added the commentators for Italy however this is not the right page to request additional user rights. Please see Wikipedia:Edit requests for more information. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 19:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 March 2019

Polish song called "Pali się (Fire of Love)" in Polish and English language Beapre (talk) 15:15, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 15:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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Russia song

The russian song named scream. Lior the swimmer (talk) 15:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)