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Darky / darkey / darkie ...but not Black?

Has the term historically been used to refer to dark-skinned people NOT of African descent? such as some people from India or the Middle East? In particular, i'm thinking Mr Hyde called Captain Nemo a darky in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and wondering if that's an author error or something that realistically might have happened. Of course, people throwing insults often don't care if they're accurate.

71.121.143.187 (talk) 23:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Per Oxford Dictionary "Black" is anyone dark skinned with no negative connotation noted. Some would also take it as an insult to say they are white. Done right, any word could make a person feel they were slighted. Defining a word as intrinsically a slur can be a bit of a blurry line. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 00:13, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. From what you wrote, i don't think i made my question clear.

i did not mean to say that "black" is or is not an insult, or that "white" is or is not an insult.

i have always thought "black", when describing humans, meant "dark-skinned African or descended from one or more dark-skinned African(s)". That is how i have heard it used. Your Oxford Dictionary link says i was wrong. Wikipedia also says i was wrong, but i need to take a closer look at that article which i think has at least a few things wrong, too.

Do i understand correctly that "darky" is an insult, but does not only mean someone with African ancestry, just anyone with dark skin?

71.121.143.187 (talk) 00:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I would think "darky"is intrinsically a slur. Oddly describing as "dark-skinned" would not be insulting. Negro comes from Latin and just means black. In the USA it use to be not a slur, but now people get insulted if used. Oddities of human culture. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018

Please, Change American-Born Confused Desi, Indian Americans, Pakistani Americans or other South Asians, (desi) who were born in the United States. to American-Born Confused Desi, Indian Americans and Pakistani Americans, (desi) who were born in the United States. because Bangladesh and Nepal despite being South Asian countries, don't associate themselves with the word Desi. Plus, they're not listed in the citation. 103.92.43.248 (talk) 10:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Everything I look at suggests that Desi refers to South Asians. I do get the idea that some of those not from India do not like being referred to by this term, but that would be why it is on this list of slurs and not just an alternative name for South Asians. As to the citation, since there is an article about American-Born Confused Desi it is not even needed really. The citation shows that is is a slur and not necessarily defines the word. The place to this take up the definition is at American-Born Confused Desi or the article for Desi. This list just reflects what those articles say. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I believe you're not sure what are you talking about. The article American-Born Confused Desi doesn't state anything about the country Nepal; still you're associating the people of that country with the said word. If everyone just go on & start creating wikipages then that eliminates the need of citations? What happens to the WP:PROVEIT? It's not a thing anymore?

• I do get the idea that some of those not from India do not like being referred to by this term, but that would be why it is on this list of slurs and not just an alternative name for South Asians.

So my question to you is, why is it on this of slurs? aka why are South Asians mentioned on this list of slurs?

• The citation shows that is is a slur and not necessarily defines the word.

Then, i would call it just a bad editing job. Perhaps a look at WP:WHYCITE might be in order.

And, you're wrong this list doesn't show what those articles say. The article American-Born Confused Desi or Desi doesn't even mention the country Nepal.103.92.43.248 (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I do not understand why you keep referring to Nepal. Nepal is not directly mentioned in the article anywhere. I have added a citation that specifically states that this slur refers to any South Asian Americans. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

• Everything I look at suggests that Desi refers to South Asians.

No, it doesn't. It refers to only a few countries.

The point is, as you've mentioned, 'Nepal' isn't mentioned in any of those articles which you've linked — American-Born Confused Desi or Desi, yet it's being placed in the group of the countries which are associated with that slur. As for the citation, even if you've added a citation — which you've Not, you should have mentioned that in your previous comment, not now. Especially after when i've asked for a WP:3O review!

I'm gonna reiterate this again as i've earlier —

• Nepal, despite being a South Asian country, doesn't associate itself with the word Desi as it's not stated in any of your references.

For that reason, please drop the words South asians from the article.

If i've to make this even more clear, the country Sri Lanka is a south asian country, but it's not stated in any of your references.103.92.42.231 (talk) 08:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Here is a cite that says it does.

• Gabriella Mangiarotti Frugiuele, Paola Carbone, Giuliana Galeotti, Fedele Cuculo, Anna Manzato (2012). Childhood and Society 2011. Lulu.com. p. 25. ISBN 978-1-4716-1070-7. Retrieved 11 November 2018. . . . refer to anyone from the subcontinent including Bangladesh, India, Nepal and Pakistan{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Live with it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 10:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Overlap of Gypsy and Traveller related slurs

In the UK, Travellers are often incorrectly called Gypos, Gypsies and Tinkers, but this list would make you think that those terms are only ever used to refer to Romani peoples. Only Pikey is correctly labelled as being applied to both.

go raibh maith agat, Ciaran — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.41.240 (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

We can add this to the list, but you need to provide a citation to support it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2019

hey, i am from israel and i whould like to change the "Arabush" / "ערבוש" ethnic slur, since by Hebrew dictionary Aravi (ערבי) - arab and Bush (בוש) - ashamed (Bush is not a really used word) By the way, nice sources, I never knew Arabush was a thing, pretty rude tho of people. --רם אבני (talk) 14:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what change(s) you want to make. Please make a precise request so that others know exactly what you want to change or add. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:15, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2019

Requested edit: Remove "Gammon" as an entry. Gammon is not an ethnic slur, but rather a political insult for people espousing ultra-right wing anti-immigrant and pro-Brexit talking points or members of UKIP.

"Gammon" is a Victorian era insult for a bullshitter, and has been specifically used recently to describe people characterized by reactionary, low-information, jingoistic pro-Brexit bluster.

While many people currently being called "gammons" are white, the word is being used to describe their white supremacist / anti-immigrant rhetoric and political stance, not their ethnicity. (People directly and immediately harmed by racist rhetoric are less likely to espouse it.) Similarly, "Nazi" is not an ethnic slur, but an epithet for people espousing Nazi or neo-Nazi rhetoric.

Early attestation: Charles Dickens, Nicholas Nickelby

“a tough, burly, thick-headed gentleman, with a loud voice, a pompous manner, a tolerable command of sentences with no meaning in them, and, in short, every requisite for a very good member indeed”.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/05/turns-out-charles-dickens-invented-concept-gammon-1838

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gammon-left-wing-political-insult-twitter-racism-debate-right-charles-dickens-a8352281.html 2001:BB6:2E03:5758:412A:B99C:DBCA:AEA4 (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. SITH (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Useless list for the most part. Clearer inclusion guidelines needed.

This article/list is useless to the general reader - for the most part. In many cases, it tells us that certain words are derogatory/offensive but does not tell us how or why. The word for Black/White people in other languages/cultures are not necessarily ethnic/racial slurs. It might well be that's just how they call Black / White people in their country or language. For example in Senegal and Gambia, the word toubab historically meant a white person. However, in recent years it has also come to include Black people who where born and brought up in the West. Even Senegambians who immigrated to the west and came back after years of being away are referred to as toubab. Looking at this list, it looks to me as a shopping list where anyone can just add any old rubbish and call it an ethnic slur. At this very moment, we do not know why many of the words added to this list are ethnic slurs. I'm scratching my head trying to figure this out. I think a stricter inclusion guidelines maybe warranted, because this list as it stands is not helping the general reader at all.Tamsier (talk) 23:02, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Jungle bunny hatnote

This edit by Richard-of-Earth (talk · contribs) removed a {{redirect}} hatnote that I had added because (I cannot find any evidence this is necessary.) When I added it, my intent was to ensure that readers searching for jungle-dwelling animals, such as Junglefowl and Jungle bush quail, can find articles about said animals even if the obvious name for a jungle-dwelling leporid has a far less polite meaning that is otherwise primary. What am I missing? --Damian Yerrick (talk) 18:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to improve Wikipedia. However, I could not find any evidence that the Sumatran striped rabbit is referred to as a jungle bunny. The article says they are from the mountain forests of Indonesia and I understand those are rainforests that could be referred to as jungles therefore a young rabbit of this breed could be said to be a jungle bunny. I just see no evidence that anyone actually does this. But were it the case, the correct thing is to turn the redirect jungle bunny into a disambiguation page. That redirect has a history of vandalism, so the page is watched by a few people. I am guessing that if you do turn it into a disambiguation page that people will undo that as well and demand a citation that Sumatran striped rabbits are referred to as a jungle bunnies. People looking for rabbits that live in the jungle would more likely just go to the section about rabbit habitats. Perhaps you could add something there. You could also add a habitat column to list of rabbit breeds. Another idea would be some sort of category. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Afro Engineering or Nigger Rigging

Is usually used by whites and blacks as a self deprecating term to refer to a clever way of repair or making something work with limited means. 98.164.64.98 (talk) 12:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Already on the list. What about it? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:09, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Should "Koftes" be added?

Koftes or كوفتس is used by Egyptian Arabs as an ethic slur to refer to Coptic Christians. It might have been derived from the Egyptian Arabic word kofta or كفتة, meaning meatball, but I am not sure because I cannot find a source to prove this. Ifdyourgoats (talk) 20:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. I looked a biit and did not see anything as well. Nothing gets added to the list without a citation. If there is not one in English, any language is fine, but include a translated quote in the citation. Basically if it did not make it in to a dictionary or an article or some written medium, it is probably not notable enough to be listed. But even then it can be questioned as too obscure or just someones opinion that it is a slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:00, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

(Moved from User talk:Richard-of-Earth#Source to "Koftes" being an ethnic slur to Coptic Christians)

Besides common usage in social media, this is the only credible source I could find for it:

https://ar.mo3jam.com/term/%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B3

Translation from Arabic: "slur or joke used by some Egyptians to describe a Coptic (Christian) person

Example: Hey, Gergis [a common Coptic name for males], you koftes."

However, I could not find any source comparing it with meatballs. Ifdyourgoats (talk) 23:21, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, just using Google translate I see there is place to "Add words" to this site. That means it is user generated source. See WP:UGS. We do not use such sources because it is basically no better then gossip. If it becomes broadly used some politician or celebrity will use it and it will end up in the media. Usually the articles about such things explain why it is bad and you got a citation. If that does not happen, then it is just not notable enough for this list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:01, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

(And it is best to reply to discussions on the talk page for the article, no a personal talk page. That way everyone who watches this article can contribute. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:01, 18 March 2019 (UTC))

WASP isn't a slur

I think WASP is a legitimate description; not intended to be a slur. Wikipedia doesn't mention it being a slur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant --RobertGary1 (talk) 17:05, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

My initial reaction was to not remove it, but the entry and the article do not have a citation saying it is a slur. The article White Anglo-Saxon Protestant uses "WASP" a lot without any mention of a slur. Wiktionary makes no mention of a slur. Dictionary.com says "Sometimes Disparaging and Offensive". Merriam-Webster.com say "sometimes disparaging". I would say it is only a slur if he person rejects it. I have removed it from the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 23:13, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2019

in the subsection about Squarehead's, change the example of a Nordic person, to not include Germans Cramty (talk) 17:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done The citation (that I fixed) says it applies to germans. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:29, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2019

37.238.112.6 (talk) 22:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Ustashe : Used in Serbia against Croatians

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 22:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

FOB

Note that according to the source used for FOB, it merely refers to immigrants. It is not an ethnic slur but refers to literally any new immigrant. It is still derogatory. It is synonymous with "uncouth". However, it is not ethnic specific and the linked source never said it was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.179.249 (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

a search of google books for FOB Fresh Off the Boat turns up a lot of Asian references. I am thinking the phrase "fresh off the boat" can be directed at any immigrant, but "FOB" seems to be used extensively in Asian-American communities. However that is all WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. I will remove it for now and if someone finds a citation that makes it clear, we can put it back. By the by, there is a fresh off the boat article for the phrase, however it looks poorly cited to me. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2019

Please add Chukhna, a Russian ethnic slur for Finnic peoples (entry has sources). 2001:999:0:B059:3BE3:CDA5:6B1:B570 (talk) 23:54, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Emmett

Cornish term for non Cornish person particularly pertaining to the English. Dotsters (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Emmet (Cornish) has an article however "tourist" is not an ethnic. Do you have a citation that suggests it is starting to be used against a particular ethnic. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Another definition for "Spearchucker"

In Canada, "spearchucker" refers to someone of First Nations (Native) descent, not African descent. Please change this appropriately. Ksilver2001 (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

I could not find a source to use as a citation for this. Do you have one? We do not add unsourced material to this list. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Alligator Bait references

General Ludd (talk) 19:22, 1 August 2019 (UTC) A previous editor cites a single source in confidently stating that "(Alli)gator bait" refers to a practice of using enslaved African children and babies in areas like Florida as bait for alligators. It is unclear if this was a common practice, a rare event, or something rumored to have happened (or used as a threat to slaves).

I was thinking it could be some sort of joke that became a myth, but perhaps not. A quick search came up with this: https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2017/junejuly.htm and https://thewestsidegazette.com/research-reveals-that-black-children-were-fed-to-hogs-and-used-as-alligator-bait-in-the-early-1900s/

What do you think? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 00:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Snopes reports this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/06/09/black-children-alligator-bait/ The term is unquestionably one whose purpose was to mock, intimidate, or otherwise dehumanize African Americans first recorded in the 19th century but explicitly used as a slur well into the 20th century. But there is insufficient evidence to claim luring alligators with children and infants was an actual practice. General Ludd (talk) 22:22, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

A way to phrase this might be: As a slur "gator bait" reflects a white supremacist attitude that the value of a black child is worth nothing more than meat used to catch alligators and, like many "perspectival" racist slurs, would be used to reinforce this dehumanizing worldview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by General Ludd (talk • contribs) 5 August 2019 (UTC)

References

I think the only thing at issue here is does it need a better citation. I do not see any reason to change the entry. Currently it reads:

Alligator bait / Gator bait

(U.S.) a black person, especially a black child. More commonly used in states where alligators are found, particularly Florida. First used in the early 20th century, although some hypothesize the term originated in the late 19th century. The term derives from the fact that, during the slave trade, Black children and babies were supposedly used as bait by White people in the US in order to catch alligators.

References

I am sure the reader can realize the dehumanizing aspect of the slur without beating them over the head with it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Gringo

I guess its meaning can vary, but in Colombia, specifically Antioquia which I know well, gringo just refers to someone born in the US or Canada irrespective of skin colour. A black person for instance from the US would be a gringo. And to say someone is white thus a gringo is going to be extremely controversial because in Medellín for instance, the majority of the people are white. So if you use it like that you get in to Colombia's incredibly complex relationship with race which is something one can write a book about. So I vote changing the skin colour part, or changing the region where it is used to denote skin colour. Alcibiades979 (talk) 08:35, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

None of the citations for the entry mention "white", I took it out. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2019

can we add ok boomer to this list Destroyer-of-gods (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done We might be able to add it if we knew what it meant and we had an RS source to support it. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

"OK Boomer" has an article, but is not an ethnic slur per say. I suppose you could say baby boomers are a ethnic group, but it seems a bit of a stretch to me. Younger generations are always making fun of older generations, it is called ageism. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Other Possible Slur Lists

Where should this too general idea be put? Thanks! -- Jayxmn (talk) 16:42, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

There is a slur list that could be identified "Slurs Against Age Groups and Generations" or some such. E.g., "Old Bitty", "Rug Rat", "Dirty Old Man", "Brat", calling a toddler and older child a "baby". There is a slur list possible also for names ethnic & LGBTG+ groups call "outsiders". E.g., "Breeder", "Honkey".

-- Jayxmn (talk) 16:42, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

There is already List of LGBT-related slurs. Also see Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Lists of words. Regarding ageism slurs you would have to show that the cultural impact of these slurs warrant their own list. More likely any such words would just be worked into the prose of the ageism article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 10:47, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2019

I would like to suggest that this article is updated to include the term 'Ang Mo' (also spelt 'Ang Moh'). There is already an existing wiki-page for this term, found here Ang_mo. As per the existing wiki page, the term Ang mo "is a racial descriptor used to refer to white people that is sometimes seen as a pejorative epithet". 57.73.39.67 (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done, thanks for the suggestion. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:45, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Gora?

Hard to believe Gora or Gora-log is listed an ethnic slur. Kipling happily used this Urdu/Hindi term to refer to Europeans in India. 'White' or 'White-people' is simply descriptive - and certainly this Brit for one doesn't feel in the least insulted. And can't imagine that anyone else might be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.240.181 (talk) 19:08, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

This use to have an article [2]. There was a delete discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gora (racial epithet). It was turned into a redirect to this article. I could not find a citation that mentions it being a slur. In fact it is sometimes a complement saying a person is fair-skinned. I have removed it from the list. I have change the redirect to wiktionary:गोरा Richard-of-Earth (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Additional Israeli Ethnic Slurs

The following are slurs common in Israel or were common in Israel in its early years, when most of the country were immigrants and people were characterized by their country of birth:

Ben-Dod (בן-דוד)

  (Israel) An Arab. Literally means "Cousin" in Hebrew. Based on the belief that the Jews are descendants of Isaac and the Arabs are descendants of his Step-brother Ishmael. Not necessarily a pejorative but might be considered impolite to be said in the face of Arabs.

Chakh-Chakh (צ'ח-צ'ח)

  (Israel) An immigrant from North-Africa, mainly Morocco. Based on sounds common in Jוdeo-Moroccan Arabic

Cushi/Cushon (כושון\כושי)

  (Israel) A black person. Although biblical, nowadays considered highly offensive 

Frenk (פרענק)

  (Israel) A Sephardi Jew, mainly from North-Africa. Literally means "French" in Yiddish, based on French being the prominent European language in the Maghreb

Schwarze Haye (שווארצע חייע)

  (Israel) A Sephardi Jew, mainly from North-Africa. Literally means "Black Beast" in Yiddish.

Wuzwuz (ווזווז)

  (Israel) An Ashkenazi Jew. Comes from Yiddish "וואס" (Pronounced "Wus") which means "What?", referring to the response for situations unfamiliar to the new immigrants — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barakb32 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Please provide reliable sources for these claims. (Wikipedia is not a reliable source; neither are blogs). –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 20:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

References

"Fish Belly" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Fish Belly. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hog Farm (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

please add Wall Jumper to the list

wall jumper/ Hispanic immigrant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.4.144.2 (talk) 16:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Please supply a citation when requesting additions. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:26, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Sheboon

Just FYI, “Sheboon” redirects here but does not actually appear in the list. It should either be added or changed to point to Wiktionary instead (which does have an entry for it). 2600:1014:B04F:59E3:DDE:BC8:A680:F6CA (talk) 21:09, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Nominated it for deletion. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Now it got added back to the list with a decent citation. So I have withdrawn the deletion nomination. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

"Sheboon" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sheboon. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Withdrawn. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2020

JoHo - Derogative nickname for Jehovah's Witnesses Knowledgeableguy12345 (talk) 15:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. What about it? If you want to add it, see the inclusion criteria at the top. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2020

Add the word "Gusano" (It would go under "Guinea, Ginzo"), with the definition of "A term for a counter-revolutionary Cuban exile or their family, specifically if they used to be landowners". It's Wiktionary page is here. TechnoMach (talk) 00:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thank you, for the suggestion. I located citations we can use. I did not come across the alternate spellings nor we there any mention of landowners in the citations. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2020

Gypsy, Gyppo, gippo, gypo, gyppie, gyppy, gipp

   a. A Romani person. Derived from "Egyptian", Egypt being mistakenly considered these people's origin.
   b. (UK and Australia) Egyptians.[176]

b. should be changed to (UK and Australia) People whom live in caravans, generally from Irish, Scottish or Romani descent. Zebadiah123 (talk) 21:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The links would be to Irish Travellers and Scottish Travellers. I don't think the current b. should be removed, instead this could be added between the current list items. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The citation given supports b as it stands. Supply a citation that supports a "c. (UK and Australia) People whom live in caravans, generally from Irish, Scottish or Romani descent." and I will add it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Pea Soup and Blokes

Hi, I am not a Wikipedia contributor, but a French-Canadian. English-Canadians have called us Pea Soup for as long as I can remember. We also called them Blokes for at least as long. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.203.121.15 (talk) 21:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, thanks. We need citations to add this to the article. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 23:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Corona as racial slur

There have been multiple reports on the internet that the word "corona" has been used against Asians during the COVID-19 pandemic, all because the virus originated in Wuhan, China.

Should that count as a racial slur? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmchlngy4 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I do not see a source that says that specifically. There is also a problem of WP:RECENTISM. We have List of incidents of xenophobia and racism related to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic to record these recent events. I think I will add this to the See also section. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Kolorad

Kolorad does not mean “Russian,” and is not an ethnic slur. The term is applied to pro-Russian Ukrainians, and to separatist militants that include Russian and Ukrainian citizens, of Russian, Ukrainian, Chechen, and other ethnic groups. The association of Colorado potato beetles with the orange-and-red striped St. George’s ribbon probably originates in Russia, and has been used there in reference to extreme patriots and Russian-empire or Soviet nostalgics.[3] In English it is usually translated “Colorado” or appears in italicized plural form as kolorady.

Sources say it applies to “the invading Russians”, “pro-Russian separatists”, Ukrainian citizens who are “pro-Russians” in Odesa,

This pejorative is not specifically ethnic, and probably doesn’t belong in this list. —Michael Z. 2020-03-15 19:30 z

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. However the citation makes it clear that in Ukraine it is a slur against Russians. The linked article Ribbon of Saint George makes it clear the medal and even wearing the colors of the medal is banned. While the slur may be used by others, it is their connections to Russians that is implied. I inclined to think it should stay. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:05, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

No, User:Richard-of-Earth, the citation does not say that. In full, with my emphasis, it explains that it is a label for foreign militants, and does not describe it as a slur or extremely pejorative:

Today Ukrainians might call the invading Russians колорады (Colorados). This is a reference to the striped St. George ribbons that Russian patriots wear, which are reminiscent of the destructive striped Colorado beetles. Очень жаль, что образ Матери Божьей осквернён руками колорадов. (It's such a shame that the image of the Mother of God was defiled by the hands of Colorados).

Inconclusive? So consult the better-referenced Ribbon of St. George.

Its resemblance to the black-and-orange-striped invasive, destructive Colorado potato beetle has gained the ribbon the derogatory nickname "Colorado ribbon" (Russian: колорадская лента, koloradskaya lenta; Ukrainian: колорадська стрічка, kolorads'ka strichka) in Russia and Ukraine. The ribbon is associated with the Russian military and Russian irredentism in general, and was used as a recognition symbol by "local self-defence forces" in the occupation of Crimea and pro-Russian separatist forces in the Donbass War. Over time the term kolorad ("Colorado") in Russian and Ukrainian has become a pejorative applied to extreme Russian patriots, pro-Russian separatists, and invading Russian militants.

I wrote that. So please follow the citations in that article and check what the references say. This was a term initially invented by Russians to describe militantly patriotic Russians, and still used that way. It is also used in Ukraine to describe Ukrainian separatists. —Michael Z. 2020-04-17 17:46 z

Well, I have had arguments on this page several times and this has the feel of we are not going to agree no matter how much we discuss it. It seems a matter of semantics and viewpoint. I do not see this as you see it, plain and simple. We would need more people to participate in this conversation to find a consensus for it. Somebody believed it belonged on the page when they added it and others have surly seen it and not disagreed and I think it should stay. I do not feel you have sufficient support to remove it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:40, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Earthling as a slur

I noticed that in some science fiction, particularly from the mid-20th century, "Earthling" is used as a slur (for humans) by extraterrestrial characters. 2601:8B:C302:D530:E5B0:D8AB:AF8D:8DF9 (talk) 17:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Wow, that is a good suggestion, but if we start listing fictional ethnic slurs, the list will start looking like a indiscriminate collection of information and maybe WP:FANCRUFT. We would have endless arguments about what makes a fictional ethnic slur notable enough to be included. Perhaps If you find other fictional insults you could add a category for it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2020

add to v: Velcro Head- a derogatory term for someone with afro hair 151.227.172.48 (talk) 09:26, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Please provide a reliable source that supports this addition. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 13:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Missing slur "waterback"

So, I got on here because, why not, it’s a way to make quarantine pass. While I was looking, I expected to find one called “Waterback.” In case you don’t know, “Waterback,” is a racial slur directed to illegal Mexican immigrants. It is commonly used in Texas and other southern countries bordering Mexico. It’s used because people float on their back on the water into America. I don’t know if this slur isn’t as common as I thought, or if people just didn’t know it existed. UnTrueHistorian Corn REAL (talk) 23:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

The term is "wetback" and is on the list and has its own article Wetback (slur). There is no mention of a form "waterback". If you find a reliable source that mentions "waterback" as an alternate form, we could add it to the "wetback" entry. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

In case you don't know a "redneck" is a slur for Southern laborer-class whites, who use terms like wetback to describe illegal Mexican immigrants. 86.175.173.45 (talk) 19:22, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

And "redneck" is already on the list as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Addition on an existing P-slur for people from Pakistan

The second term of the list under the letter P is also used in Greece, in the same way. Perhaps we should add this country in the list in the parentheses, or just add an "e.t.c." in the end? ShizleGhizle (talk) 21:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I guess you mean "Paki". If you provide a citation that supports its use in Greece just add it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020

Add a slur: Dangar : deterioratry term to refer to the Dogras of Jammu and Kashmir 155.69.184.22 (talk) 18:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done sorry, but you will need to supply a citation to support this. Please see WP:RS to see what can be used. I looked a bit myself and I see "dangar" means "cattle", but I am not sure what language. Is this any different then calling someone a "dog"? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020

Add a slur: Apuh Neh Neh : used to refer to Indians (in Singapore) derogatorily 155.69.184.22 (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. See the inclusion criteria at the top of the talk page. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 01:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Added in more ethnic slurs from the former Yugoslavia

I added in:

1. Poturica: This is a word that's often used in the former Yugoslavia by Serbs or Croats to describe Bosniak people. The word itself came from the compound word "poturice" which means in English "to turkify"
2. Ustasha: This is a word that's often used in the former Yugoslavia by Serbs and sometimes Bosniaks within the Herzegovina region to describe Croats. The word itself came from the fascist Ustashe organization, which was a far-right militant party that controlled Croatia from 1941-1945. They often had chauvinist/nationalist/irredinist views about themselves and other ethnic groups. This word now refers to neo-Nazis or nationalists in the common day.
3. Chetnik: This is a word that's often used in the former Yugoslavia by Croats, Slovenes, Bosniaks, Macedonians, and Albanians to describe Serbs. The word itself came from the Royal Yugoslav Detachment of the same name, and was a monarchist militia that wanted to preserve the Yugoslav throne. Nowadays, it refers to Serbs with nationalist/chauvinist views.

If you have any more ethnic slurs from the former Yugoslavia that I'm missing, please do not hesitate to add them in here! Balkanite (talk) 01:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I removed them all, because we need citations that specifically state that each is a notable slur and the ethnic it slurs. See WP:ONUS and WP:UNSOURCED. Sorry, but we have to be strict about not letting any WP:OR items or interpretations on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

LBMF

" During the production of Miss Saigon, the international work force for Filipinos was also rising. Filipinos were seen as Little Brown Fucking Machines (LBFM) by military men thus giving Filipinos the roles of prostitutes within plays. Because of Miss Saigon, Filipinos were then seen as maids and domestic helpers." occurs in Filipino American theater. I am not sure whether the term belongs in this list.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 10:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

So you just cut and paste from Filipino American theater. (Missing this source.) If you are asking to add "LBFM", we need a citation that does not just use the term, but defines it and show it is notable per WP:SOURCELIST. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020

Please add this for BLM .

"Karen-A derogatory stereotype of a usually white skinned racist middle-aged woman who displays aggressive entitled behavior when prevented from getting her way, " 120.21.11.137 (talk) 09:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Please see/take part in the discussion six posts above. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 13:43, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Christ-killer is sometimes but not necessarily synonymous to God-killer

It has also antichristian usage (as something good); where the antijewish use has a bad sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:4109:E864:35BD:2D56:96AE:F7AE (talk) 02:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Mormon

It is an error to include "Mormon" as an ethnic slur. First, Mormon is not an ethnicity. Second, Mormon is the appropriate term in most historical contexts, and the appropriate term for those that participate in religions related to the Book of Mormon, which is not exclusive to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In any case, it is not offensive.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fubeka (talk • contribs) 01:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I see it has been removed. I believe it has been added and removed before. I feel neutral on the matter. There will always be arguments on what does and does not count as an ethnic. Looking at the article, the term can be very broad. As for it being offensive, I am told some people are offended by the term, but many embrace it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Nobody currently embraces it. It is a word that the "Mormon" church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has spoken against since 1838, and for a while tried to take back. But you can't say the N word isn't a racial slur because black people tried to own it. Said church has entirely quit trying to own it as of a few years ago, and at that point haters started using it 10x as much, which is a clear sign that it's a slur. And as per other denominations--there are other denominations that are referred to as Mormons by outsiders, but there are no other denominations that refer to themselves as Mormons, so that argument makes no sense either. Those things being clarified, unless anyone has any questions, the word should absolutely be included in the list of ethnic and religious slurs. (And if you have questions, please sign your name to it, because of the nature of the topic, since if we allow haters to anonymously gainsay this will never end, nor would it for any word on this list--which again is a sign the word is a slur!)--Mrcolj (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I have added the signature to the OP's post. It seems they removed it here. Anyways, the article Mormon (word) seems to present the word as a colloquialism rather then a slur. The talk page for that article is where the subject should be taken up as more people interested in the subject can comment. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2020

Wok Dog, calling someone of Asian decent a dog. 49.196.12.243 (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 17:08, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2020

Change 'Tacohead' (in the T category) to 'Taco/Tacohead' as both terms can be used as derogatory terms towards not only Mexicans but also to other Spanish speaking nationalities (Hispanic) ItsyaBoi12345 (talk) 09:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Can you locate a citation that supports this? Frankly, I am considering removing the entry. The citation is to a movie where it was used. This does not establish its notability well. A news article where its discussed as a slur would be better. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 13:36, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2020

There should the word 'Ginger' under section G, that commonly is used as a racial insult to red haired people. Lafens (talk) 10:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Wow, that's a tough one. Are redheads an ethnic? Is Ginger (name) a slur? Anyways you need a citation to include this in the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Jogger

This should be added. 97.116.88.75 (talk) 20:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Seems a little too current. Not really notable enough for the list. Perhaps in time if its use becomes more common, we will add it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:07, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Mof

I noticed a decently well known dutch slur, Mof, is missing from this list. It's a slur aimed at Germans. It has gone down in use recently since hostility towards germans has gone down but it is still part of the Dutch language. It is already part of a dutch wikipedia article for nicknames for Germans which also references other sources which confirm its use(references 1-3) - — Preceding unsigned comment added by SytseB (talk • contribs)

I added it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Pepper

Another reason for the term being used is that Pepsi was historically less expensive than Coca-Cola. Thus, the association with the working class French by the English who used the term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.181.108 (talk) 02:07, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I could not find a source for this. Seems recent. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:29, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Tête carrée

This is a slur in Québec for Anglophones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.181.108 (talk) 02:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

It seems this is French for "square-head". It might be a bit too general. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:32, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Zhid

Zhid is a slur for Jewish chaps in Russian (Жид). While I do not have any sources, I think it would be fine to look around to adding at some point.--CommieKarlovy (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

We have an article for zhyd, so not hard to find a source. I added it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! Didn't know. --CommieKarlovy (talk) 00:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Veneco for Venezuelans

Veneco should be added as a slur word used in Latin America, Florida (US) and Spain reffering to Venezuelans, especially for recent migrants for the Venezuelan Crisis

Sources (In Spanish):

https://medium.com/@lucianosuarez/que-significa-veneco-y-cual-es-su-verdadero-origen-4bc314658fb7#:~:text=La%20expresi%C3%B3n%20veneco%20no%20significa,co%C3%B1o%E2%80%9D%20como%20lo%20hacemos%20nosotros.&text=Veneco%20significaba%2C%20%E2%80%9CVenezolano%20de%20Colombia,venezolano%2C%20esto%20ocurr%C3%ADa%20en%201980.

https://www.elnuevoherald.com/noticias/mundo/america-latina/venezuela-es/article129776474.html

Sources (In English):

https://www.wordmeaning.org/spanish/veneco.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebastianhoi (talk • contribs) 17:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Added. If someone removes it, though, I will not defend it. It seems to be just a shortening of Venezuelan and there is some evidence it is not always a slur. See https://www.elnacional.com/mundo/armas-drogas-y-municiones-detuvieron-a-114-venezolanos-durante-megaoperativo-en-peru/ Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Karen meme

'Karen' seems to have become a sexist slur recently: 'Karen' meme is everywhere – and it has become mired in sexism

Is it also an ethnic one? Petecarney (talk) 15:45, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I've only seen it applied to white women, so perhaps? Katya (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

If this has a case to be added based on the tendency of Karen (slang) to be applied to white people, there are also Chad (slang), Kyle (slang), Trixie (slang), and Becky (slang) on the same basis. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 16:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

It is easier when these things get into dictionaries so there are clear citations. The Guardian article above does mention it is about white women and it is mention in the article as well. What troubles me is since it is a meme next week it could be about Asian or black women depending the viral video that comes out. I would not oppose someone else adding it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Surprised this entry isn't in here. Clearly used now to refer to white women.

Karen is a pejorative term used in the United States and other English-speaking countries for a woman perceived to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is considered appropriate.

As of 2020, the term was increasingly being used as a general-purpose term of disapproval for middle-aged white women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.142.255.5 (talk) 13:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Šiptar

The term Šiptar (Cyrillic: Шиптар, Shiptar; plural: Šiptari, Cyrillic: Шиптари, Shiptars) used in Serbo-Croatian, Slovene and Macedonian is denoted in an offensive manner and it is also considered derogatory by Albanians when used by South Slavic peoples, due to its negative connotations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosovastar (talk • contribs) 10:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

List of ethnic slurs

SNOWFLAKE is not in this list it is used to describe a white person — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.88.227 (talk) 07:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I added it the same day this IP mention it. I forgot to acknowledge it here. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Blanket Ass

US. Indians/Hindus or an Indian looking person. Why is this not on the list?(men dress using what appears as a blanket rapped around their waist similar to a Indian sari dress). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.244.19 (talk) 01:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

We need a citation. See WP:UNSOURCED. But also we do not put slurs like "ass" or "dog" on the list. Lots of cultures wear cloths that look like a blanket wrapped around them. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 01:16, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Newfie is a missing ethnic slur.

“Newfie” ethnic slur for Newfoundlander that was coined by American military servicemen to mean stupid and has multiple studies done on the term. Newfoundland a former British colony is located in Canada and constitutes their own ethnic group through a shared dialect, culture and ancestry. It’s people being subject to discrimination and bigotry by mainland Canadians since confederation with Canada. Cjml021 (talk) 04:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2020

"due the perception" → "due to the perception" 80.3.103.8 (talk) 13:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done, thanks! Richard-of-Earth (talk) 13:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Shikse

"shiksse" Yiddish, a contemptuous term for a non-jewish woman. The less-common masculine form is "sheyketz" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.138.6.206 (talk)

 Done, thanks. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Mayate (another meaning)

The slur "mayate" is also used in the Yucatán Peninsula in México, the origin of the word is from the nahuatl "Mayatl" and it refers to a multicolor little beetle, it has been associated to homosexual men and it is used in peiorative way against them.

Dawc159951 (talk) 14:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2020 (3)

 Note: This change was made by the time I finished making the request. I'm not sure if it's acceptable to answer a request I opened so I will leave it unanswered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.32.110.198 (talk) 22:04, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Remove the "Chinese virus" entry. This entry lists a term which describes a virus, not any ethnic group. While the term is related to a particular ethnic group, it does not belong on this page. The specific section follows:

;[[Chinese virus|China Virus/Chinese Virus]]
;What 45th US president [[Donald Trump]] calls [[List of incidents of xenophobia and racism related to the COVID-19 pandemic|coronavirus]] to promote his own racist agenda against [[Asian-Americans]]. Because of Trump hate crime has now increased towards Asian-Americans because of how Trump supporters now think they are all carriers of a contagious virus.  <br />

136.32.110.198 (talk) 21:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

 Already done It's fine to close your own edit request but I will do it for you as I'm replying. Dylsss^{(talk • contribs)} 00:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2020

This is a subjective, biased, and unfounded/unsupported entry on the page: China Virus/Chinese Virus What 45th US president Donald Trump calls coronavirus to promote his own racist agenda against Asian-Americans. Because of Trump hate crime has now increased towards Asian-Americans because of how Trump supporters now think they are all carriers of a contagious virus. I suggest this either be removed entirely or reworded to factual information, such as: Phrase that has been used by 45th President Donald Trump to describe the Coronavirus, or COVID-19, which was first reported in humans in Wuhan, China. 76.77.164.46 (talk) 03:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Asartea ^{Trick | Treat} 04:36, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Dylsss^{(talk • contribs)} 00:58, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2020 (2)

The part about the China Virus/Chinese Virus is clearly political and the claims are not backed by any source. It should not be explained this way or be on this page entirely. It is also completely bold which does not conform to the style of the rest of the page. 31.201.40.69 (talk) 14:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Dylsss^{(talk • contribs)} 00:54, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I added some things Lolamartinez123 (talk) 08:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

White Privilege

The term “white privilege” refers to the privilege experienced by white people, due to their lack of facing racism. It does not mean their life has no struggles, it only means none of their problems come from unfair treatment based on their race

White people do experience racism, from other races who are prejudiced against white people. This prejudice is common any time that white people are significantly in the minority or are in a predominantly non-white (i.e. not of European ancestry) nation. Walterego (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

rsdb.org

Can this website be used as a source? --Piperpet (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

No. That is a self published source. See WP:SELFPUBLISH. Basically anyone can add items to it and there is no review done to verify. Sources you want are usually dictionaries. Words that do not get into dictionaries can sometimes be sourced to news articles, especially if someone got publicly condemned for using the slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Merger discussion (Merging Sambo (racial term) into this list

I have proposed the merger of the article Sambo (racial term) into this article/list, because its use is primarily a racial slur that is still used to some extent as an insult to persons of colour. Having checked other racial terms, such as Coon (which is disambiguated to multiple places), users are redirected to this article. I feel it would be appropriate to catalogue all such slurs and epithets in this place. Your thoughts on this would be welcomed. Thank you! Dane|Geld 22:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Sambo (racial term) is a full article; as appropriate, it is an entry on this list already, and there's no reason to merge in a 6000-byte article into a list article. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 22:46, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

It’s also only used as a racial slur in America, for the original English speaking country... England - it is not and this should be factored in when individuals claim some form of offence. TheSamboRambo (talk) 09:16, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Looks like no consensus to merge, I am going to remove the headers. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:06, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2020

Change the location/language of origin of 'gammon' to 'United Kingdom.' Fearsphere (talk) 00:20, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Done Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Lobo/Coyote

Add lobo/coyote as a derogatory name and racial category in the Spanish colonial Casta system for mixed-raced people (includes people of either African or Indian ancestry.) Fearsphere (talk) 01:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Not Done, lots of people are called dogs or coyotes. We are not listing them all. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Location of Origin for Injun and Greaser/Greaseball

Change Location of Origin for 'Injun' to North America (US/Canada). Change Location of Origin for 'Greaser' to Southwestern US. Fearsphere (talk) 01:21, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Partially done. I saw no evidence that 'Injun' is used in Canada, so I set that to just 'United States'. I set 'Greaser' as requested. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2020

Adding a slur,

TERM: Walsche LOCATION: Southtyrol TARGETED DEMOGRAPHIC: Italian People MEANING: Used by german speaking Southtyrolean to talk condescendingly about Italians. Juhumml (talk) 07:32, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:57, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2020

Kaffir and Hajji are not ethnic slurs in any way shape or form. Kaffir doesn't have any negative connotations and is not used for any offensive way. It means Disbeliever as mentioned in the article, that is correct, but it's not a slur. Same goes for Hajji, its meant for anyone who has completed Hajj and I don't believe any Muslim would find it offensive if you call them Hajji, especially in the USA. Guacamole76 (talk) 13:32, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

The offensiveness of words differs a lot between regions, according to the sources cited here an Indonesian organization said that "kaffir" might be offensive to some, and according to the source for "Hajji" it is possibly derogatory when used by American military personnel. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:37, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

See the articles for Hajji and Kafir. They both mention these as a slurs so you would take it up on the talk pages there before here. It looks like it has already been discussed on both. I doubt anyone likes to be referred to as an unbeliever. I did add citations for kafir and clarification for hajji. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2021

make poggers a slur made my united states and it offends gamers Icefifty (talk) 02:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Gamers aren't an ethnicity – Thjarkur (talk) 14:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Egg used to be on this list years ago.

Derogatory term referring to white people interested or obsessed with asian culture. White on the outside, yellow on the inside. Nowadays this seems to be replaced by Weeb/Weeabo. Common on gaming/anime forums. Also Axe Chucker is a slur against Native Americans/First Nations Peoples.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.55.242 (talk) 14:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

We need a reliable source to post this on the list. That is a dictionary, scholarly report or news article that mentions the definition and that it is a slur. Most likely Egg was removed for not having one. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

"Zog lover" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Buford

A racial slur used against people from a country ethnicity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonowoah (talk • contribs) 03:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Polak

Why is this even considered a slur here? "Polak" or americanized "polack" literally is the polish word for "pole". It's a description for nationality, with no negative connotation of its own. I'm polish. In polish I say I am a "polak". Other websites reference this list and base their idea of slurs off of this page, so classifying this word as a slur I feel is more harmful than the word itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.191.162.175 (talk) 16:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

There are four reliable sources cited for this entry; perhaps you should consult those sources and complain to the authors? Elizium23 (talk) 16:53, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2021

Under section P - "Peppers/Pepsi". Was going to suggest the reason or note for this is because of an "Implied stereotype that French Canadians drink soda/pop for breakfast" Shulgha (talk) 08:53, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done I was not able to find a WP:RS for this. We need an article or book to use as a source. It cannot be a blog or some other self published source. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Cushi as a loanword

Does the below citation justify restoring Cushi as an English loanword?

References

Негр

In the section for nigger and something, add the notice that the russian “Негр”, is not an abusive word towards black-skinned humans. This is the same as saying “black”, neutral. The word Негритос (this is singular, derived from negritos) though, already is somewhat derogatory, but is used rather for fun, than with intent. Черномазый (~ sloppily black-painted) is the most abusive word i can recall. By the way it's all said there: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80

Chilote

Chilote is not a slur! It's the proper way to refer to inhabitants of the Chiloe Island. No Chilean citizen feel offended by this word. Please revise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.173.6.38 (talk) 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Black slurs from ethnic Russians

The chernomaziy (literally black-smudged) or even the obscene chernozhopiy entry says that "black-arsed" is used for people from Caucasus, but I have to expand that. Anyone whose skin colour is arbitrarily deemed to be darker than "white" by racists among ethnic Russian and thus considered inferior in personal development and workmanship can be "black" for them. Of course it may be applied to people of black race from African descent, but also to actually white and even not always black-haired natives of Caucasus and Central Asia, who are now a quite common sight in Russian cities unlike Africans who make a tiny part of local student body. Probably Central Asians and especially those from South East Asia can be also targeted with uzkoglazy "narrow-eyed" or kosoglazy "squint-eyed, slant-eyed". My drunken neighbour, whose last name isn't quite ethnic Russian in the first place, was drafted to Afghanistan war and recently, having seen me with a nice Uzbek worker, asked me who that black-arsed was. I was disgusted: the drunk, having a degree in electrical engineering and three grown up children, doesn't work, while the Uzbek young man is extremely hard-working and helped decorate my elderly relative's apartment almost to perfection.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GregZak (talk • contribs) 11:53, 13 October 2019 UTC (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021

snowflake: country: usa target demographic: white people, politically left-leaning people 2601:204:4102:8300:9F9:BC89:3660:9534 (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

The Term Cabbage Eater

The term 'Cabbage Eater' is used to refer to German people because of a common German dish called Sauerkraut (spoiled cabbage). Also used also as a derogatory term to reference a person from a social class or a region (especially northern or eastern Europe) traditionally associated with the eating of cabbages. https://www.lexico.com/definition/cabbage-eating — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:9A16:C000:39CB:7FFC:5A87:D3B5 (talk) 19:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

The entry at Lexico does not mention Germans and otherwise seems too broad. People eat cabbages all over the world. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2021 regarding broken source

Add dead link note to Winkley/Winklestain since the citation/source for it, 441. redirects to the frontpage of the website.

Source : https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/culture/16726-minister-called-winklestain-outcry TornMap (talk) 15:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 20:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request, 25 February 2021

The term "Lapp" in reference to the Sámi people should be added to the list. Most used in Norway, Sweden, and Finland, it is a derogatory reference to either their nomadic life, or their clothing being patched up out of poverty. The term was removed for "not being English" but there are others on the list that are not English. The word is used in English typically with a lack of regard or knowledge of its derogatory nature.

Source: http://www.rsdb.org/race/sami

Source on one meaning: https://crosssection.gns.wisc.edu/2014/10/08/lapp-by-ellen-ahlness/

Source on second meaning: https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sami — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:90B:30D0:C85B:5F0D:93B9:1EC6 (talk) 15:40, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your submission. We do not refuse items because they are foreign terms anymore. However we cannot use rsbd nor New World Encyclopedia as a citation. See WP:SELFPUBLISH AND WP:CIRC. See While it seems Ellen Ahlness is an academic, her note after her poem seems a bit on the WP:FRINGE. I cannot confirm this derivation from anywhere else. The Wikipedia article Sámi people has no such entomology for this word and says use of it is simply discouraged. This list should never contradict other the main article for the items given, so if you can find better sources and get this added to the main article, we should then consider adding this to the this list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2021

karen isnt a slur its an insult Coomsloot69 (talk) 04:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

The entry is sourced. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

The Newsweek source doesn't call it an ethnic slur. Karen (pejorative) describes it as a term mainly referring to a certain kind of behavior, not a person's race or ethnicity. The fact that a handful of right-wing pundits claim it's a slur doesn't make it one. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Neither "source" refers to "Karen" as a slur. That's ridiculous right-wing propaganda. --2601:1C2:780:F510:841C:E19C:37EB:3C88 (talk) 01:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

This should be taken up at the article Karen (pejorative). This list needs to agree with that article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

That article points out that "Karen has been called an racial slur", but that characterization of the term is by no means uncontroversial and it wouldn't be encyclopedic to call thing racial slurs just because someone argued that they could be. People have made the case that 'Douchebag' is a racial slur, but that doesn't mean it should go on a list of slurs. Flameoguy (talk) 14:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Its completely ridiculous that 'Karen' would be considered an ethnic slur. Even if it does evoke a particular ethnicity, neither source describes the term as an ethnic slur. As its currently used, anyone acting with a sense of entitlement can be a Karen. Flameoguy (talk) 14:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2021

The word "Balija" (ethnic slur for Bosnian Muslim's) is not used in Turkey. It is used in Croatia and Serbia. The word is intended to denounce the Bosniak people because of their Islamic faith. 178.233.169.149 (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-Protected Edit Request (11 March 2021)(Snowflake)

The word "snowflake" should be removed from the list of ethnic slurs.

In common usage, it refers to a perceived sensitivity or hostility to beliefs that the target believes to be inappropriate. It is commonly used by those with right-wing ideologies against those with left-wing ideologies. It has no significant other use outside of the fringe case of a short period in Post-War Missouri among the abolitionist community. Even during this period, it was used without racial implication to describe those who opposed the abolition of slavery. This is, I propose, not a use of the term that warrants defining it as an ethnic slur.

Reviewing the citations (of which there is only one), I find that the link Green's Dictionary of Slang (2020) does not work and thus does not provide evidence. The Wikipedia article for Snowflake (slang) does not provide any examples or evidence of the term being used exclusively against white people. Pursuing the primary sources similarly does not expose a racial animus towards white people. Neither Meriam-Webster, Collins, nor Webster refer to its use as a racial slur. They all provide only the definition approximating to "someone the speaker believes is too sensitive or politically correct."

Taken together, I do not see reasonable evidence of a cited use of the word "snowflake" to describe "white people" as the page so indicates currently.

NLValkyrie (talk) 19:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

All set. I checked an archived copy of that site and the reference is for using snowflake as cocaine. Other references have not ethnic link. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Added back with source from Snowflake (slang)#Other uses. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 20:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2021

Sale Flamand Freekowtski (talk) 17:35, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

No edit requested. Closing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

"Sale Flamand" apparently means something like "dirty Flemish"in French. We do not list generic slurs like this. You can pretty much say dirty anything in any language. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

We need to include BAIZOU as a racial slur

We need to include BAIZOU as a racial slur for white people. It is used as a racial slur to refer to any white-skinned person who is not a neo-Nazi. Please make sure that you are able to include this increasingly prominent racial slur into this list. Ayokandiamonio (talk) 18:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Melmann 10:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Baizuo has an article, but seems to be purely political and not ethnic per se. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2021

Remove "cracker" from list. Echshism (talk) 00:35, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Not done: it seems reliable sources characterize it as an ethnic slur, and Wikipedia just goes off what is published in reliable sources. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 00:47, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2021

In the line where it explains the origins of the slur Cracker, it needs to be known that it is by black people towards white people. It's not like white people will call other white people crackers. Oofalladeez343 (talk) 15:19, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done I am having difficulty in finding support for that in the two existing sources (Cash (1941) and Claire(2006)) Also seems to be nothing specifically about use of the term exclusively by black people at Cracker (term) or Florida cracker. Do you have a source that supports your claim? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2021

Add Binkle as a slur. Description: "The word binkle is a derogatory term typically used to describe Eastern European Jews who moved to California for a better chance in the film industry in the 1940's. Anti semites making fun of the Yiddish language made this ethnic slur to mock Jewish actors, especially those who were new to show biz." Binkle43 (talk) 23:50, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Gringo

Is Gringo really an "ethnic" slur when the targeted demographic is "English speakers"

As far as I know, "english speakers" is not a race nor an ethnic group. I do not believe it belongs here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.162.241.124 (talk)

See the article Gringo and take the issue up there. Slurs against foreigners are considered ethnic slurs. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

gringo in latin america = foreigner with north euro aspect, turist, rich, blond dumb/stupid with autism/down sindrome low iq in portuguese "trouxa" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.181.142.31 (talk)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2021

I wish to remove a slur in which is not a slur I,e the word/name Karen Swazeh (talk) 22:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 22:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021

"Mayosapian" which is a racial slur used towards White People. 2601:206:4200:C640:9101:539:553F:89D0 (talk) 01:30, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:31, 24 April 2021 (UTC)