Talk:Myanmar civil war (2021–present)/Archive 4
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Suggested corrections of the 8 august update of the "Military situation as of 8 August 2024" map
- Thandwe and surroundings have been seized by the AA, Junta just holds the southernmost tip of Ngapali Beach and the Maung Shwe Lay Naval Base, both very south of the Thandwe Town.
- ZRA doesn't hold any territory anymore in Chin State, they are entirely base in Aizawl State and effects some raids in Chinland State once in a while, but now they appear to have made peace.
- TNLA have pushed already more south and west from Nawngkhio Town into Nawnghkio Township, reaching Shwe Mote Htaw and Wekwin
- The road between Mogoke and Singu is entirely under PDF/TNLA control
Wikidoge04 (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a source on the ZRA claim? Not disputing it, just wondering. CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 20:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for any of these- we can only add things to the map based on WP:RS per Wikipedia standards and policies. For Thandwe, I found enough for at least the town being taken- https://myanmar-now.org/en/news/myanmar-regime-bombards-rakhine-coastal-town-captured-by-aa/ EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 20:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- First of all thank you for updating Thandwe.
- - About the Mogok-Singu road in the last few Mizzima daily reports about the war: The 148th Light Infantry Battalion (where the Mogok-Singu road and the Takaung-Singu roads connect) was seized by the PDF as reported there https://eng.mizzima.com/2024/08/12/12740 while the town of Zayat Kwin was taken as reported there https://eng.mizzima.com/2024/08/13/12776
- - About the TNLA expansion southof Nawnghkio there are those articles by The Irrawaddy https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/war-against-the-junta/myanmar-junta-reinforcements-attacked-as-tnla-advances-in-northern-shan.html reporting fights as far as Shwe Mote Htaw and https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-junta-troops-cornered-in-two-northern-shan-townships.html reporting TNLA into Mat Man Taw and Tang Hkam.
- - About the ZRA I have no direct sources but my claim comes from the lack of reports of the ZRA still being active in Chin State while in this Wikipedia arcticle it has been reported that in early August CNF and ZRA leaders met in Aizawl, at ZRA HQ to discuss cooperation and peace between Chin EAOs. Wikidoge04 (talk) 22:14, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of corrections made as of 8/12 update:
- Thandwe and surroundings updated to match the File:2024 Arakan Army offensive in Rakhine.svg by @CrazyMagicPickle supported by links like https://myanmar-now.org/en/news/myanmar-regime-bombards-rakhine-coastal-town-captured-by-aa/. Thanks to @Borsyk5 for updating Thandwe earlier.
- Could not find updated info about southern Wa-North beyond 2019 reports; moved the southwest border of Wa-North back to the borders of the Wa SAZ based on Irrawaddy source saying Matman controlled by Triangle Command
- Updated TNLA Mogok control based on Irrawaddy video in Western Mogok Township; additionally updated KIA control based on Myanmar Now coverage of PDF/KIA taking Taungle village, Thabeikkyin Township.
- Updated Southwest Nawnghkio Township TNLA control slightly- couldn't find anything about Wekwin, but found article about Thea Khaw. Wekwin I can only find on WP:FACEBOOK or clashes from June.
- Fixed minor Muse SSPP layer issue
- EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 19:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Worth noting it looks like the KIA has reached the Irrawaddy River from Mabein as well: https://burma.irrawaddy.com/article/2024/08/01/388043.html, https://yktnews.com/2024/07/175563/. Not a Burmese speaker so I don't feel confident putting these in articles anywhere, but if you wanted to check that out it could be helpful. CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 21:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah Tagaung was taken a few hours ago but waiting for wikipedia-acceptable news sources to show. The Khit Thit article says Tagaung was completely taken- but Khit Thit is famously fast and loose with facts. The Irrawaddy article mentions the capture of the Tagaung Neekel factory without much more elaboration on where the factory is. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- It does seem a little odd to me that Tagaung would fall so unceremoniously - you'd expect at least some reports of combat before the town falls. CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- ZRA is still alive and well in Chin Region - see here. Borysk5 (talk) 06:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah Tagaung was taken a few hours ago but waiting for wikipedia-acceptable news sources to show. The Khit Thit article says Tagaung was completely taken- but Khit Thit is famously fast and loose with facts. The Irrawaddy article mentions the capture of the Tagaung Neekel factory without much more elaboration on where the factory is. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Worth noting it looks like the KIA has reached the Irrawaddy River from Mabein as well: https://burma.irrawaddy.com/article/2024/08/01/388043.html, https://yktnews.com/2024/07/175563/. Not a Burmese speaker so I don't feel confident putting these in articles anywhere, but if you wanted to check that out it could be helpful. CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 21:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)