Talk:NBA Most Valuable Player

Beyond 2008?

Who put in the years beyond 2008? K61824 (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

07-08

it currently has KObe bryant listed as the MVP for the current NBA season. as it still current, the award has not yet been given out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.192.76 (talk) 06:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

new info on this, it is more or less now official LAtimes article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.192.76 (talk) 03:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment

How about we keep the information on this page factual so it can be used as a rescource... Youssef Hannoun winning the first ever NBA MVP is not factual information... You and your friends may get a kick out of seeing Hannoun on your computer screen as the MVP between bong-hits, but it has no place here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.192.185 (talk • contribs) 08:23, October 21, 2006 (UTC)

This page should be reserved from new comers and unregistered members

Too many screwballs in the wikipedia...this page should be reserved from all those loonatic children... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ridoy2k (talk • contribs) 11:13, March 31, 2007 (UTC)

This is ridiculous some dumb ass keeps putting Kobe Bryant in the MVP section for 2006-07 ridiculous —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beaves0110 (talk • contribs) 11:36, April 6, 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above statements. i ahve been trying to fix it all day. i ahve suggested it be protected —Preceding unsigned comment added by 10scott10 (talk • contribs) 06:18, April 9, 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this is a page that should only need editing once a year anyway.CEP78 05:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Protection is only reserved for extensive vandalism, otherwise the Admins will ask that you Watchlist the article and simply revert the edits. Make sure to warn vandals and increase the warning levels. If they continue to vandalise Wikipedia, you can report the user and they will be blocked. Zodiiak 06:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

No MVP yet for 06-07

Zodiiak, if you read the article closely you can see that the results of the MVP award ballot remain unknown. The article just stated that Dirk was a shoe-in for the award. Was just browsing through and noticed it. I know that I'm not in the NBA wikiproject, just helping out. - D2B - 07:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't matter if you are or aren't. Not sure why you're directly outing me, I'm not the only one who maintains this article. Fact is, I'm not the one who posted he was the MVP, until I read it on espn. It has been posted that Dirk will receive the Award on espn, espn game nights, nba.com, tnt game nights, etc. Let's be realistic, the article, that was posted as a source until someone removed it, stated:

Dallas Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki, whose coronation as the first European-born Most Valuable Player in NBA history has been expected for weeks, is scheduled to officially receive the MVP trophy news conference on Tuesday in Dallas, ESPN.com has learned.

Source: espn.com/nba/news Zodiiak^{Dial Z} 16:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

What's with this page?

Nash is listed in the chart at the bottom as having won 3 MVPs. Hasn't he only won twice? And what's with the constant vandalism? Nevermind, it looks like this is getting fixed as we speak.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.197.19.242 (talk)

Table suggestions

Two things I'm not sure we need in the main table:

• Flag icons, especially more than one of them.
• Numbers in parentheses for MVP Awards other than a player's first. There is already a table at the bottom for multiple MVP award winners and I think our readers know how to count.

Two things that would improve the table:

• Number of MVP votes won out of number of possible votes. Might be harder to find sources for non-recent years.
• Team win-loss record (easy).

— CharlotteWebb 14:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Steve Nash is actually South African

The page reflecs Steve Nash incorrectly as Canadian. He is really South African. He was just raised in Canada. This is similar to Nicole Kidman and Mel Gibson being called Australian- No, they are American (Hawaii and New York respectively) but were just raised in Australia. --Zoldello (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think he is both Canadian and South African. The Steve Nash article says he is Canadian and he actually represented the Canadian national basketball team. But since he was born in South Africa, so my guess is that he is also South African. However, I could be wrong. It will be best if you ask someone else on the talk page of Nash's article.—Chris! _ct 02:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Steve Nash is Canadian since his birth certificate says so. He was born in South Africa but never got his birth certificate from South Africa. Annoyomous24 (talk) 22:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Tim Duncan

If the US Virgin Islands are a US territory, and the citizens of US territories are American and US citizens by birth, why does the site refer to him as an international player? Just because you don't come from a US state or D.C. does not disqualify you from being American or from the USA! There are 5 major US territories, all of which the inhabitants are US citizens and AMERICAN and part of the USA. The US Virgin Islands is in the United States or is the USA! Therefore the statement about him not being raised in the USA is false. It should state something to the effect of it being not the continental US or in a US territory. That is a correct statement. Please correct and learn your geography and pol. history!

Well, even though he is an American, the NBA considered him as an international player. The note at the bottom clear signifies this situation.—Chris! _ct 04:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

The note does not relate to Duncan's status as an international. The note actually states that he is able to play for the US internationally, for example on the US Olympic team. As he is a US citizen, has lived in the US all of his life, and plays for the US national team, he cannot be considered an international absent some evidence to the contrary. His NBA.com bio says nothing on this topic. I am removing the image and note until further proof of his international status can be cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.174.229 (talk) 17:41, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

The NBA considered him as an international player. I don't have a source right now, but it is true. The image and note stay. The note is used to show Duncan's status as US citizen even though the NBA considered him as an international player.—Chris!_c/t 18:04, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Find one just that quickly. This NBA page lists him as an international player.—Chris!_c/t 18:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, this is garbage, but it's the NBA's garbage, and it's now cited, at least. There was no cite for this prior to now, and since it's ludicrous, it needed a cite to stand. That said, I've rewritten this to be clearer. The note about his status as an international player for the international team is still irrelevant.122.167.174.229 (talk) 14:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, your rewrite was inaccurate. Duncan was not technically born in the US. See Territories of the United States.—Chris!_c/t 18:35, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll change it to born in the United States of America, although I find that awkward. I would not make a distinction between "US" and "USA" when stating where someone was born, and I don't think the average reader of the English language would either.122.167.174.229 (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Also, your article on territories of the United States says "All territory under the control of the federal government is considered part of the "United States" for purposes of law." This is cited. As such, I assert that someone born in a territory can be said to have been born in the United States.122.167.174.229 (talk) 19:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, for the sake of better wording while being as clear as possible, I change it to US mainland.—Chris!_c/t 20:12, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful solution! awesome job. Wiki is ending up to be one heck of a project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.82.3.129 (talk) 01:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
+1
it's just some ludicrous status of the NBA
regards
Paranoid Android1208 (talk) 23:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.82.211.138, 2 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Add LeBron James as 2010 MVP Winner.

75.82.211.138 (talk) 00:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Not official yet.—Chris!_c/t 00:56, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Spitfire19 (Talk) 00:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

LeBron 2011-12

I have a source from ESPN which states that Lebron has won his 3rd MVP award. http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7920762/source-miami-heat-lebron-james-wins-third-career-mvp-award — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.40.229 (talk • contribs) 00:46, 12 May 2012‎

The source says "will be announced Saturday as this year's winner of the league's top individual honor". Wait until Saturday. It also says "The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the league has not announced the results." Wait for a non-anonymous source.—Bagumba (talk) 01:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Text in second paragraph about all MVPs coming from 50 win teams needs to be amended, in light of LeBron's win. The text currently only cites Karl Malone in the lockout shortened 99 season, but this year the Heat only won 46 games due to lockout, so they should be added to this section as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.215.144.48 (talk) 19:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Done—Chris!_c/t 19:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

1982-83 MVP Moses Malone

Moses Malone, the 1982-83 MVP, needs the "Denotes player whose team won championship that year" tag next to his name. The Philadelphia 76ers defeated the Los Angeles Lakers 4-0 that season in the Finals. BZA99 (talk) 21:04, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for pointing that out. — Myasuda (talk) 02:04, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

In Jabbar's last MVP season, it says in the brackets that it was his fifth. It was actually his sixth MVP award. I suppose this mistake comes from his name change (in his first MVP season he was still "Lew Alcindor"). Please fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elishamod (talk • contribs) 19:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Done. — Myasuda (talk) 01:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Picture of current MVP holder

Would it be feasible to add a picture of the current MVP holder (Stephen Curry, as of this writing) to the right-hand side of the section?

Also, would the picture look better as the first picture of the section or the last picture of the section? HandIsNotNookls (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

There's not enough room for another photo, so one would need to be removed. Photos should follow the existing chronological order.—Bagumba (talk) 06:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Cross sign

I wanted to ask somebody from Wikipedia about the cross sign, for a long time now. I find that really weird. That cross sign from what I know represents people that are dead. Could something else be used other than that? I find it really morbid, anything else would be better, probably, can it be used a star, or anything really? In articles where the cross is not next to a person's name, it's not that bad, but in here it is just wrong. What do you guys think ? Csabadapp (talk) 14:20, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

MVPs in the GoAT Context

The discussion of the "Greatest of All Time" in basketball is constantly argued on the basis of MVP awards versus championship rings. LeBron James's legacy has been enhanced greatly by his recent title while Stephan Curry's has been taking a beating. In this light, identifying seasons in which the MVP lost the championship is just as meaningful to this debate as identifying seasons when they did win it. Singling out the years when the MVP made it to the finals but lost adds some depth by showing when the MVP was surrounded by a cast of some competence. Let's restore this useful distinction! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Co096392 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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2016-2017 MVP

Go ahead and add Kevin Durant for this season. I would do it but the page is protected from "vandals" like me. BiggBenjamin (talk) 06:05, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2017

Add Russell Westbrook as the 2016-2017 MVP and his relevant info such as team (OKC Thunder) 24.44.222.55 (talk) 04:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Already done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Error with number of awards for Golden State Warrior players - Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2017

The team entries for Stephen Curry incorrectly list that his awards are the 2 and 3 for Golden State Warriors when no other winner from Golden State is listed. ShimonShore (talk) 09:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: GSW were previously the Philadelphia Warriors and are considered the same franchise. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 09:17, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Section on split by Position

In addition to Multi-time winners, it would be great to have a split by position. 121.200.57.84 (talk) 03:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2020

After Recent News Change The winner receives the Maurice Podoloff Trophy, which is named in honor of the first commissioner (then president)[a] of the NBA, who served from 1946 until 1963.to

The winner receives the Kobe Bryant Trophy, which is named in honor of An All Star Guard The 1st Ever To Play 20 Seasons who served from 1996 until 2016. that Died along with his daughter in A Helicopter who served from 1996 until 2016. <ref>https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/15/kia-all-star-mvp-award-kobe-bryant/<ref> Skeeling57.1 (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: You've mistaken this with NBA All-Star Game Kobe Bryant Most Valuable Player.—Bagumba (talk) 01:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Adding finalists?

Given that the NBA regularly announces finalists for the MVP award, should this page include a table with the second and third place runner-ups? I think this would be useful information. Kumar (talk) 14:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

No, it would make the list too cluttered. Yearly detail can be added at the linked season-specific article, e.g. 2019–20_NBA_season#Yearly_awards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:11, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Toronto Raptors have won a title

The Raptors have won a title and this should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlb1130 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021

Contentking1 (talk) 20:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

The LA Lakers have also won the 2020 NBA Awards. It needs to be updated as well. Meaning their tally will be 9 overall titles.

 Not done. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. Antetokounmpo won in 2020. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Typo

The "Philidelphia/Warriors" under the awards for each team is misspelled.

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2021

First time writing a request but several times it states Jokic is the first 2nd round pick to win the MVP but that is Infact not true Willis reed did it in the 1969-1970 season he was drafted 8th overall in the 2nd round 24.224.142.81 (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 02:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2021 (2)

Nikola Jokić to 98.38.72.170 (talk) 04:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◎ | melecie | t 10:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Add timing of MVP voting?

Especially point out that it usually occurs immediately after regular season and before the playoffs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BonzaiTree (talk • contribs) 00:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 May 2022

Nikola Jokic 2021-22 MVP, 2 time mvp (2020-21,2021-22), Denver Nuggets 2 MVPs < https://www.skysports.com/nba/news/36244/12609441/nikola-jokic-wins-nba-mvp-for-second-successive-season-nba-announcement-expected-this-week></https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/33886198/sources-denver-nuggets-star-nikola-jokic-named-nba-mvp-second-consecutive-season> 82.113.227.190 (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Les wait for the actual announcement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:12, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Misinformation

Giannis never won the MVP award and most improved player award in the same season 216.165.95.165 (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Removed now. Example of why even captions can need citations. —Bagumba (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit request - Update caption for Nikola Jokić to include third MVP award in 2023-24

Request that Nikola Jokić caption be edited to:

Nikola Jokić won back-to-back MVP awards in 2020–21 and 2021–22, and then won for the third time in 2023-24. He became one of only two players to be selected in the second round of the NBA draft to win the award. IditarodFan (talk) 02:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Joel Embiid

Based on the notes shouldn’t Joel Embiid’s flag be the USA as he was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time he won the award and he has chosen to represent the USA in the Olympics. Based on the precedent set by Hakeem Olajuwon his nationality flag should be that of the United States. 166.198.21.34 (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. I believe this edit should be made. 134.174.45.133 (talk) 15:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

There's a related discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association § Player lists and flags. A person's national team is irrelevant to their NBA play. What sources do cover, probably due to the NBA long marketing themselves as global, are award winners not born in the US. As such, Olajuwon and Embiid are considered "international". Listing them as Americans, though they are presumably dual citizens, doesn't convey that. Also, Embiid didnt play for the US until 2024, but won MVP in 2023. But again, I don't see anyone's national team being particular relevant to an NBA award. —Bagumba (talk) 16:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)