Talk:Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!

Name change

The name of this page should probably be either "Pokémon Let's Go! Pikachu and Let's Go! Eevee" or "Pokémon Let's Go! Pikachu and Eevee" to be in line with the other Pokémon series pages i.e. Pokémon Red and Blue. ~ P*h3i (📨) 02:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

The title should actually be Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! (note colon and comma) per Nintendo's release statements and the game logos. ShadowUltra (talk) 03:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Is this a core game or not?

There are conflicting statements and edits as to the status and placement of this game in the Pokemon franchise. This includes that;

• Game Freak announced, at E3 2017, an upcoming "core" Pokemon game for Switch.
• Nintendo/The Pokemon Company (a WP:PRIMARY source), as asserted by editor @Josephvb10:, state that this is a "mainline" Pokemon game.
• It was also announced that a core, main series Pokemon game for Switch, more in line with what is usually classified as a "core" game (i.e. like Sun and Moon) is coming out next year.

Given the presentation of this title and how it is being responded to by secondary sources, there is reason to believe that this is meant to not be a "core" Pokemon game, but a spin-off of the core games intended to target people familiar more with Pokemon Go. Do we have any agreements or alternative opinions on this matter? ViperSnake151  Talk  04:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

No source in this article claims that it is a spin-off. It may not be the new ambitious core Pokémon RPG that will be released in the second half of 2019, but it still seems that it is part of the main Pokémon RPG series right now. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 05:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Another additional proof that this is a "core" game, they specifically use the term core in the press conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_qtyOa5Dg) at 40:13. They say that the 2019 will be the second core Pokémon game for the Switch, Let's Go will be the first. Josephvb10 (talk) 05:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Additionally Bulbapedia has classified it as a core series game: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Core_series Josephvb10 (talk) 11:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

This is somewhat of its own category - it is set in the same place as the main series games but it clearly have very different mechanics and news sites don’t seem to be certain whether this is main series or not. I say we err on primary until more information arrives, although Wikipedia might alter the perceptions of the press. Juxlos (talk) 18:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I changed my opinion - this would be a spinoff like Pokémon Colosseum. Juxlos (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

It's not really clear either way. It's definitely a "mainline" game, Game Freak have explicitly said that much. Does that differ from a "core" game? Lots of sources seem to think so. Maybe safer to avoid stating one way or the other for now, in the same way as for the 7th vs 8th gen debate below. Frakur (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

When I go by core game, I mean as in, like Red/Blue Ruby/Sapphire, Sun/Moon and their remakes/ports. The ones that are based upon the standard format. This game clearly has some deviation from the norm, and may be more comparable to the Coliseum/XD games from the GameCube era (which still played largely like the core handheld games, but with additional elements), which could be considered "mainline" by their logic. ViperSnake151  Talk  00:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi ViperSnake I Personally Think Its A Remake Of Red+Blue But Made To Attract The Pokemon Go Players. But You Know They Have Little Things For The Veterans And Stuff. 66.208.33.254 (talk) 18:18, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Mainline game

The game is stated to be part of the mainline series officially and on relevant websites:

• The official press conference states multiple times that Let's Go is a mainline game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_qtyOa5Dg (check 17:25)
• The official Japanese website mentions this is the first entry in the "Pocket Monsters series" for Nintendo Switch. In Japan the Pocket Monsters series refers exclusively for mainline games: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pika_vee/switch/
• Serebii.net, a major Pokemon news site classifies it as a mainline game: https://serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/

Josephvb10 (talk) 04:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I honestly do not know if it's truly a core series game or a spin-off game. However, the official Japanese website, when I translated it, just said it was the "latest work" of the Pocket Monster series, and many sources, such as Polygon, say that it's not supposed to replace the mainline game, which is coming out in 2019. Likewise, the debate on what this game's generation is is also pretty crazy. Bulbapedia states it's Generation 7, however many sources state it's Generation 8. I just say let's wait for a bit more news before final confirmation. WikiBrainHead (talk) 23:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Quick update: I heard that the translator at the official press conference accidentally mistranslated the "mainline" parts of the speech. Apparently confirmed on Twitter, but I can't find it WikiBrainHead (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

That's something that probably just a person made up on Twitter as no single reputable source has mentioned something like that. Not Serebii and Bulbapedia say it's part of the Gen 7 Mainline. The reason why it's not supposed to replace the 2019 mainline game is because, while both games are core games, the 2019 will follow the classic style. Josephvb10 (talk) 01:30, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

7th or 8th generation?

The page currently says "The games are the third installments in the seventh generation", however the source does not actually say this. In fact, it's arguably more likely to be eighth generation since these games introduce many new gameplay elements, better graphics, and at least one new Pokemon. Frakur (talk) 19:29, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

It’s on the Switch. Honestly we might be best off avoiding mentioning its generation at all. Juxlos (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

100% agree, generation number means nothing and is debatable, so there is no reason for its inclusion. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:41, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Completly disagree. For Pokémon the generations are a very important piece of information. It really doesn't matter if it's not useful information for a few people, it's an important aspect of the game. Josephvb10 (talk) 01:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

I would say generation number means something for this franchise but to avoid causing edit wars and the like it should be excluded especially since we can't seem to figure out if this is a main series game. Juxlos (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

It means something for fans who are already knowledgeable about the series. For somebody who does not play the games and is not overall familiar with the series at large, such as myself, they mean basically nothing. What is fifth gen? What causes it to go to sixth gen? Is it gameplay or Pokemon roster related? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion's it's part of Generation 8 because of a new console, but following the pattern of previous Generations, it should be a Generation 7 game. However, since it's just a spin-off game, I don't think the generation matters. WikiBrainHead (talk) 23:15, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Multiple sources indicate that the first Generation 8 titles will be released in 2019, automatically making Let's Go part of the 7th genrration:

• https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/30/17408632/pokemon-gen-8-nintendo-switch-release-date-2019
• https://www.usgamer.net/articles/pokemon-gen-8-for-switch-not-coming-until-2019
• http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/392069-pokemon-switch-2019-gen-8-switch
• Both Serebii and Bulbapedia classify Let's Go as part of Generation 7 Josephvb10 (talk) 01:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The fact that gen 8 will be released in 2019 doesn't prove any objective fact that the game is gen 7. A source implying something can't be used as objective fact. In addition, Serebii nor Bulbapedia are reliable sources. ~ P*h3i (📨) 06:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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