User talk:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Archive 2
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Lint errors
I support and supported this bot, but it has been a huge annoyance in my watchlist now going in for days/weeks. In particular old AfDs. It so floods my watchlist I am having trouble seeing legit edits. I can not disable bot notifications for other reasons. What can we do such that it doesn't keep editing the same pages repeatedly, and makes a single edit to the page fixing all errors at once? GreenC 15:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- There are a few things:
- The easiest would be to hide only MalnadachBot from your watchlist as explained in WP:HIDEBOTS.
- You can proactively fix Lint errors in pages that appear in your watchlist so that no further edits would be necessary. WP:LINTHINT would be a useful tool for this.
- Follow up on the above step and add any Lint error pattern you find to User:MalnadachBot/Signature submissions so that I can add it to the Bot run logic.
- The ideal solution would be to have general purpose regexes with zero (or as close to zero as possible) false positives so that I can use them instead of specific regexes. I had spent a lot of time trying to build a perfect set of regexes to no avail. At this point I don't think it is possible to build general regexes with false positive rates as low as specific regexes for a fully automated Bot task. If anyone is interested in taking this on, reading the subpages of Task 2 will give you an idea of the sheer number of things to consider (and there are lots more). For many pages it is very hard to fix all errors in one edit even if done manually. Here it took me 3 tries and 1.5 hrs to get all errors.
- The flood of AFD page edits is because my Bot is currently going through items number 71 and 72 listed in User:MalnadachBot/Task 12/51-100, along with opportunistically fixing 90 other signatures if present in a page. This is the single largest Lint error pattern ever to exist in en.wp, being present in about 330k pages or nearly every AFD page from before March 2018. Since every AFD page is transcluded in a daily log page, the errors in individual pages gets transcluded there as well doubling the number of errors. When my Bot is done with this, 660k Lint errors would be fixed. About 60% of this is done, the rest will be over in a couple of weeks. Edits to AFD pages after that will not be as high volume as now. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do you use AWB pattern matching or custom software? The later could be more flexible. Can still use AWB for login, download and posting, via the external program feature that does the actual page processing. That way you can build up a library of separate regex as you find them, and by the end it will get most of them in one edit. If I understand the situation correctly. Anyway, I'll try hidebots. -- GreenC 19:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- I use AWB's find and replace in both simple and advanced settings depending on the error. I go on adding replacements to the list as I find them. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do you use AWB pattern matching or custom software? The later could be more flexible. Can still use AWB for login, download and posting, via the external program feature that does the actual page processing. That way you can build up a library of separate regex as you find them, and by the end it will get most of them in one edit. If I understand the situation correctly. Anyway, I'll try hidebots. -- GreenC 19:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Sorry why is this bot messing with editor's signatures? GiantSnowman 11:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- My bot is replacing the obsolete
<font>...</font>
tags with CSS. This is so that signatures and other usages continue to display as editors originally intended when support for font tags is dropped. This work has been going so since 2018. A small group of gnomes have reached out to users who had font tags in their signature and convinced them to change it to prevent its further spread. The vast majority of users have already replaced it. However this particular editor has refused to change their signature despite multiple requests. So they continue to leave error reports wherever they sign. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)- This is one reason why banning the use of templates for editor sigs is so silly. If custom sigs were done in a template lint errors (and I remind everyone these were not errors at the time the sigs were created) could be fixed with a single edit across the whole wiki. Nobody would get anything in their watchlist except the editor who owned that sig and anyone watching the template. SpinningSpark 14:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I fully agree. I guess you found your way here because your old signature is among a batch that MalnadachBot is currently replacing, item 597 in User:MalnadachBot/Task 12/551-600. --ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's right. You've particularly pissed me off because I've been away for three days and you've swamped my watchlist so badly that genuine edits have been pushed off the end of the 500 changes limit. SpinningSpark 17:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I fully agree. I guess you found your way here because your old signature is among a batch that MalnadachBot is currently replacing, item 597 in User:MalnadachBot/Task 12/551-600. --ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is one reason why banning the use of templates for editor sigs is so silly. If custom sigs were done in a template lint errors (and I remind everyone these were not errors at the time the sigs were created) could be fixed with a single edit across the whole wiki. Nobody would get anything in their watchlist except the editor who owned that sig and anyone watching the template. SpinningSpark 14:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello
Any idea how many different signatures the bot has to fix to finish task 12? 🐔dat (talk) 11:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Considering only the signatures present in more than 50 pages, I would say it will be at least ten times the size of User:MalnadachBot/Task 2, which makes it 15,000. Then there is a lot more of non signature lint. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- That is a lot of lint and edits. I can see why the bot has accumulated so many edits in nine months. 🐔dat (talk) 12:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Username
Hi, I just wanted to make a quick comment about your username. As per Wikipedia:Username policy, a non-Latin username is allowed, but can be problematic. From Wikipedia:Signatures;
Editors with non-Latin usernames are welcome to edit in Wikipedia. However, non-Latin scripts, such as Arabic, Armenian, Chinese, Cyrillic, Greek, Hebrew, Indic scripts, Japanese, Korean, Persian, Thai and others, are illegible to most other contributors of the English Wikipedia. Not everyone uses a keyboard that has immediate access to non-Latin characters, and names that cannot be pronounced cannot be retained in memory. As a courtesy to the rest of the contributors, users with such usernames are encouraged to sign their posts (at least in part) with Latin characters. For an example refer to User:Παράδειγμα, who signs his posts as "Παράδειγμα/Paradigma."
I understand your username is apparently Kannada, one of the languages of India, and seems to translate to "Malnadach Konkno
". I'm not sure what the significance of that is to you, but if you would consider adding that, or another Latinized name or word to your signature, it would make interacting with you a great deal easier for your fellow editors, eg: ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Malnadach Konkno.
To attach a Latinized word or name to your signature, just go to "Preferences", and on the first page, under "User Profile", scroll down to "Signatures". There you will see a text box where you can customize your signature to your liking and you will be able to modify it with an add-on in Latin script that will help others identify and communicate with you. There are additional instructions at Wikipedia:Signature tutorial, and at the bottom of the page you will find a list of unique, colorful and creative signatures, just as you will see throughout Wikipedia, that may help give you some ideas. If you need any assistance, you can contact the Help Desk. I hope you find this useful and, happy editing! - wolf 08:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Thewolfchild: I understand the point about being illegible to most en.wp users, but that is a consequence of username being global across all WMF wikis. I am active in Kannada script wikis too and my username is well established there.
- I did consider adding a Roman transliteration in my signature before, but decided against it to avoid confusing new users. For example, if I sign as ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Malnadach Konkno or other variations, a new user not familiar with wikitext and custom signatures may get confused about what is my actual username. They may try to ping me using
{{ping|ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Malnadach Konkno}}
,{{ping|Malnadach Konkno}}
and other invalid uses. If I use the deafult signature, there wouldn't be this confusion. You can see this which explains more on how new users are confused by custom signatures. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)- That link is a tp post from a single user (and rather lengthy one at that... I didn't read it, I'll just take your word that they think custom signatures are "confusing to new users"). That said, my post is just a suggestion, with relevant WP policy included to support it and to help guide you. The simple fact is this is the English WP, and by far, very, very few readers will understand what your username means, or even what language it is. The idea of adding something, anything, in English with Latin script, (or even just a number!) is also from the the policy attached.
If users are previewing their posts as they should, they will see that any altered signature will show as a red link and they can take the few extra seconds to correct accordingly (I use my own signaure and your own reply here as an example of that.) But, pinging is one thing, while simple identification is quite another. Having the abilty to refer to you directly, or to others, especailly in an on-going discussion can be of great use, while conversely not being able to do so, particularly because of a lack of that specific keyboard, can be of great hindrance. I just wanted you to be mindful of others here. But as I said, it was just a suggestion, and what you do with your signature is up to you. Have a nice day. - wolf 13:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- That link is a tp post from a single user (and rather lengthy one at that... I didn't read it, I'll just take your word that they think custom signatures are "confusing to new users"). That said, my post is just a suggestion, with relevant WP policy included to support it and to help guide you. The simple fact is this is the English WP, and by far, very, very few readers will understand what your username means, or even what language it is. The idea of adding something, anything, in English with Latin script, (or even just a number!) is also from the the policy attached.
Signature
While another bot fixed a lint issue here, I noticed that the signature itself is using the font tag. I'm not sure how many instances of this signature are around, or if it is already reported, but figured I'll leave a note here. Gonnym (talk) 17:25, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Gonnym, I will add it to my bot replacement list. Not sure why WOSlinker did not replace font tags while fixing the misnesting. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Another signature I came across which colored an entire talk page is
[[User:NoSeptember|<font color="A29EBA">'''NoSeptember''']]<sup><font color=00cc00>[[User_talk:NoSeptember|-]]
. Gonnym (talk) 06:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)- @Gonnym: I've replaced all instances of this sig. You can add anything that needs done to User:MalnadachBot/Signature submissions. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Added a few there, thanks! Gonnym (talk) 08:46, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: I've replaced all instances of this sig. You can add anything that needs done to User:MalnadachBot/Signature submissions. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Another signature I came across which colored an entire talk page is
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ITN recognition for Shane Warne
On 4 March 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Shane Warne, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. GihanJayaweeraTALK 14:57, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Shane Warne
On 4 March 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Shane Warne, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Amakuru (talk) 20:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Lint errors on blocked user talk pages
Perhaps it would be best if the bot didn't create new unblock requests on user talk pages that have been blocked for eight years, such as User talk:Elle(Sri Lanka). It creates unnecessary extra work for those of us who attend to such requests. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 17:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Jpgordon: that was due to a bug caused by an unclosed nowiki tag and template further up in the page. It caused strange things when my bot edited the page, which I tried to fix here. I was not aware it opened an unblock request, sorry for the trouble. When you restored the page to older version, it has caused your signatures to appear after comments which you didn't make. Special:MobileDiff/1078066283 ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps the bot shouldn't bother on talk pages of blocked users? Anyway, I appreciate what you're doing; I just got more puzzled by the unblock request than was useful. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I just deleted the thing; there's no reason for it to exist and it's a mess. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 04:32, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps the bot shouldn't bother on talk pages of blocked users? Anyway, I appreciate what you're doing; I just got more puzzled by the unblock request than was useful. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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Administrators noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:37, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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A bowl of strawberries for you!
Thank you for this comment and for sharing this information with everyone. I really appreciate it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC) |
CSD G2 - test pages
Hallo, You nominated a user's sandbox page for CSD G2, but please note that "This criterion applies neither to sandboxes nor to pages in the user namespace." A user can do what they want in their own sandboxes as long as it does not breach copyright, include unsourced controversial BLP content, or appear to be in some other way totally unacceptable. I have reverted. PamD 11:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- PamD, you may not have noticed that the page is in mainspace and is not a userspace page at the moment. -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @WOSlinker and ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ: Of course. Sorry about that. Just like the page creator, I didn't spot the difference! PamD 13:17, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
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- From the archives: The Onion and Wikipedia
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In appreciation of you and your bot
The Million-Gnome-Edit Star | ||
This barnstar is awarded to ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ and their bot for fixing literally millions of Linter errors. Thank you so much for running the bot; it has turned the idea of ridding the English Wikipedia of Linter errors from a hopeless fantasy into a possible reality. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC) |
- You're welcome :-) I can hardly believe how much we have dented the backlog in an year. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Have you considered replacing obsolete center tags in article space? There are thousands of articles with straightforward replacements; I would guess that easy center tag replacements represent at least 100,000 of the 108,000 obsolete tag errors in article space. You might run into some of the same resistance about not replacing every single instance. Optionally, if your bot can check for remaining center tags after applying its replacements but before saving the article, it could decide not to save the edit. I think that almost all articles would require at most two passes to get rid of all of the center tags (one to replace the single-line text wraps, and another manual or semi-automated pass to replace the centering of block content like tables, as well as any stragglers). A clever regex constructor might even be able to figure out how to replace at least some of the table centering during the first pass; I am not that clever. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Originally my plan was to ignore article space and focus on discussion namespaces since they are not suitable for linting by gnomes. I'll see how feasible it is to do center tag replacement using my bot. Probably best to do it supervised, although LintHint cannot be used from AWB. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have made some 250 supervised edits, skipping pages that still have center tags after applying changes. I will examine the skipped pages later and include them in a second run after the easier ones are replaced. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:13, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I noticed that the error count was dropping like a rock! Nice work. Would you consider running your bot through the list at User:Galobot/report/Articles by Obsolete Tags, if you have not done so already? I have some (admittedly not great, but no false positives) regexes at User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/coauthors.js that fix about 90% of in-line center tags. They currently don't find things like check mark characters or most non-Latin-alphabet characters, because I don't entirely trust myself with some of the regex character-capturing symbols. I really dislike false positive replacements and replacement errors, so I stay very conservative. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think your regexes can be simplified and match more characters at the same time. For exmaple
str.replace(/\<center\>([\d\'\"a-z _\%\&\|\}\{\-\.\,\(\)–—\*:\+ößáàăâåäãāảạæćČçĐéèêếềễěëėęēệíìîïİįīịıĽńñóòôỗöõøōơờọœřšŞúùûüũūưứýỳ¡§:\!\?⊕⊗会話投稿記録日本穣投稿]*\<ref name\=\"*[a-z_ \d\-]+\"*\s*\/\>\s*)\<\/center\>/gi, '\{\{center\|$1\}\}');
can be replaced withstr.replace(/<center>([^<]+?<ref name\=\"*[^/]+?\/> *)<\/center>/gi, '{{center|$1}}');
. I have some at User:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/center.js, though they are mainly for replacing it withstyle="text-align:center;"
in table cells. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think your regexes can be simplified and match more characters at the same time. For exmaple
- I noticed that the error count was dropping like a rock! Nice work. Would you consider running your bot through the list at User:Galobot/report/Articles by Obsolete Tags, if you have not done so already? I have some (admittedly not great, but no false positives) regexes at User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/coauthors.js that fix about 90% of in-line center tags. They currently don't find things like check mark characters or most non-Latin-alphabet characters, because I don't entirely trust myself with some of the regex character-capturing symbols. I really dislike false positive replacements and replacement errors, so I stay very conservative. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Have you considered replacing obsolete center tags in article space? There are thousands of articles with straightforward replacements; I would guess that easy center tag replacements represent at least 100,000 of the 108,000 obsolete tag errors in article space. You might run into some of the same resistance about not replacing every single instance. Optionally, if your bot can check for remaining center tags after applying its replacements but before saving the article, it could decide not to save the edit. I think that almost all articles would require at most two passes to get rid of all of the center tags (one to replace the single-line text wraps, and another manual or semi-automated pass to replace the centering of block content like tables, as well as any stragglers). A clever regex constructor might even be able to figure out how to replace at least some of the table centering during the first pass; I am not that clever. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Center tag replacement advice
Wikipedia:HTML 5#Tables says that center tags in table cells should be replaced with style="text-align:center;" |
But I see that they are often, although not always, replaced with the {{center}} template. Which should I be using?
Your bot is currently hard at work replacing center tags in cells, so there may not be much left for us gnomes to fix when it's finished!
—Bruce1eetalk 08:54, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Either is fine.
style="text-align:center;" |
can be used on a larger set, but is harder to apply in bulk. {{center}} is easier to do in bulk, but it cannot be used if the text has unescaped=
or|
in it. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)- Thanks. {{center}} also makes the cell source code easier to read, but, as you said, "=" and "|" embedded in the text must be manually escaped. —Bruce1eetalk 10:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Arbitration case opened
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing/Evidence. Please add your evidence by July 9, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 11:20, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Bot mistake: replacing center tags in nested wikitables
Hi! MalnadachBot recently made this edit, which caused many table-open tags ({|
) to be placed on lines that already had a colspan defined, which caused the table tags not to work. I'm not sure if it's made this mistake more often, but could you make sure it doesn't happen again? Thanks! --rchard2scout (talk) 14:13, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this to my attetion, now set it to properly handle this. Centered nested tables with row or colspan is rare enough it is unlikely to have screwed up more than a few pages. This search doesn't give any other result. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:51, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
MalnadachBot 13
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MalnadachBot 13 has been approved. Happy editing! TheSandDoctor Talk 18:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Bot removes ISP templates
I've encountered your bot removing ISP templates, such as here and here. It's my understanding that such templates should remain on the page, per WP:BLANKING, even if it's appropriate to remove outdated user-warning messages. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:21, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Dhtwiki both the examples are outdated and appropriate for removal. This ip was from Nandad in 2016, today it locates to Bangalore. This was in Maharashtra in 2017, now it is in Punjab. Your reverts are adding outdated information back to those pages, which were inactive for 5 years anyway. There is very high chance that IPs older than 5 years have shifted, which why the bot blanks only IPs that have not edited in 5 years. Every IP talk and contribs pages now have inbuilt geolocate links which can checked for fresh information when the IP becomes active again or for any other reason. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- You make a fair point about the possibility of IP registrations shifting, but I wonder how often that happens. In my experience, they tend to remain stable. In any case, your bot is lighting up my watchlist, and I wonder at the necessity of removing warning messages when there are few and the IP users haven't themselves performed the deletion. On busier pages, it might be helpful, but that's not the case for most bot removals I've encountered so far. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- The basic idea of is to improve IP user experience by removing stale messages that weren't directed at them. Other benefits include uncluttering Special:WhatLinksHere and clearing a lot of error categories. This task was created following community consensus here. Administrators mostly block IPs for a few hours, days or weeks and rarely for more than 5 years since they keep shifting, sometimes even to diffferent countries. According to this study the average IP retention period is 9.3 days. If watchlists are an issue, you can hide all bot edits or use WP:HIDEBOTS to hide only MalnadachBot's edits. Personally I dont see the need to watch long inactive IP talkpages most of which have one or two warnings years ago, but thats your choice. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:24, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- You make a fair point about the possibility of IP registrations shifting, but I wonder how often that happens. In my experience, they tend to remain stable. In any case, your bot is lighting up my watchlist, and I wonder at the necessity of removing warning messages when there are few and the IP users haven't themselves performed the deletion. On busier pages, it might be helpful, but that's not the case for most bot removals I've encountered so far. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Some concerns about removal of warnings
You are removing the warnings I have issued to a number of disruptive IPs on my watchlist. I haven't had the time to go through and determine if I agree that all of these are "stale", or to check if all of these are dynamic IPs. If any of them are static... sometimes having these warnings immediately visible is very helpful in catching sockpuppeteers. Of course it's all there in the history, but removing the warnings adds extra work for those of us stopping the disruption. If someone new gets the IP, seeing the warnings can also encourage them to make an account, and they can remove the warnings themselves if it wasn't them. I think that serves the 'pedia more than removing warnings. I am questioning whether this work you're doing is actually helpful for those of who work to stop vandals and socks here on the 'pedia. Best, - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 19:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- The Bot is only removing warnings that were issued more than 5 years ago. Warnings older than 5 years are stale when there have been no edits from the IP in the same period. If there has been no disruption in 5 years, there's a very good chance that it is no longer being used by those who caused the disruption. I would think most new IP users would be bitten off rather than inspired to create an account after seeing warnings, block notices and other things apparently directed at them. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 05:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
168.169.0.0/16 is range blocked
Yet the bot continues to blank IP talk page at this range... Thingofme (talk) 01:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sometimes quary timesout when range block check is enabled, so I use a separate script to check that. Range block info in database is stored in hexadecimal form. I have to convert it back to CIDR format and then check for the range, which is very resource intensive. Occasionally glitches may be occur and a few pages may slip through. Nevertheless the checks for last page edit and last edit by IP is hard set, so I think it wont cause much problems. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:02, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Some IPs talk pages are blanked
Some IPs talk pages are blanked, not replaced with {{Blanked IP talk}}, should I temporary stop the bot from running or we have to fix the mistakes altogether? Thingofme (talk) 11:30, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Example: User talk:81.105.197.207. Thingofme (talk) 11:30, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Can be found with a user contribution search. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:34, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Should we stop the bot pending the problem to be solved?It appeared that the problem is now solved now, but we need to repair the mistakes. Thingofme (talk) 13:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)- This appears to be a temporary glitch in AWB that corrects by itself. From the search link it looks like this occurs for a few minutes to a few hours at any moment. Looking at query/66010 this has occured in 1,900 pages among the nearly 2 million edited in Task 13 so far. I am rerunning it on these pages to add {{Blanked IP talk}}. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I have added a new check to prevent page save if it doesn't contain {{Blanked IP talk}}. Hopefully that will prevent this from happening again. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- This appears to be a temporary glitch in AWB that corrects by itself. From the search link it looks like this occurs for a few minutes to a few hours at any moment. Looking at query/66010 this has occured in 1,900 pages among the nearly 2 million edited in Task 13 so far. I am rerunning it on these pages to add {{Blanked IP talk}}. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Can be found with a user contribution search. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:34, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Bot removing warnings from a non-IP talk page
... at User talk:The ansible, the talk page of a username from the very early days (see my notes at the end of the page). I've removed the substed version of {{block notice}} that was probably triggering the bot, but it really shouldn't be doing that and I hope it hasn't removed too many other instances like that one. Graham87 05:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Graham87: User talk:The ansible is being considered as an IP talkpage by quarry, probably because it was very old as you said. See the last entry in page 209 in quarry:history/65990/683104/663315. This is the only non IP talkpage listed there, so I don't think it has blanked any other non IP talkpages. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, looking very carefully at the query, I think I understand what happened now. It's checking whether actor_user is null ... which is *almost* only true for IP's,now that T36873 (among others) is fixed. The only exceptions are usernames created in the database mostly in 2001/2002 with now-invalid characters like underlines, multiple spaces, and initial lowercase letters, as discussed at T2323, one of which happens to be the user whose username is sometimes stored in the database as "The_ansible". There's a series of lists of edits affected by this bug at User:Nemo bis/Bug 323 revisions. Probably the best thing to do in this case is to just keep a lookout for usernames like this ... there aren't that many of them but they're around. Graham87 10:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- They are UseModWiki usernames that are imported from Nostalgia Wikipedia. Thingofme (talk) 11:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Thingofme: Not quite. Most of the ones at User:Nemo bis/Bug 323 revisions/positive rev user were edits made using the Phase II software, for example. Also edits actually *imported* from the Nostalgia Wikipedia don't have this problem(like those visible at Special:Contributions/The ansible) because the usernames are regularised during the import process. Edits imported in September 2002 do have this problem, like so. Graham87 15:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- The problems are special characters make the software (and the query) thinks it's a non-user maybe? Thingofme (talk) 15:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Thingofme: The main problem is that underlines ("Larry_Sanger" vs "Larry Sanger"), doubled spaces, and initial lowercase letters in usernames (office.bomis.com vs Office.bomis.com) were allowed in usernames/domain names in the early days of Wikipedia but no longer are. Additionally, when the UseModWiki edits with these issues were imported into Wikipedia in September 2002, just after MediaWiki was released, they were stored under the user ID number of 0 like IP addresses were and still are today because (a) the software didn't really know what to do with the usernames even back then and (b) many of the usernames weren't registered in the new Wikipedia database (for an example of that with a regular username that's still accepted today, see User talk:Janet Davis). Almost all edits from 2001/2002 made without IP addresses now have a non-zero user ID associated with them because T36873 has been fixed; the only ones that haven't been fixed are usernames with underlines, etc. Among other things the query checks for actor_user being null, which works 99.99999% of the time ... it only breaks for cases like "The_ansible". It might break for other extreme corner cases too (e.g. imports) but these are very highly unlikely to have talk pages. Graham87 16:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- The problems are special characters make the software (and the query) thinks it's a non-user maybe? Thingofme (talk) 15:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Thingofme: Not quite. Most of the ones at User:Nemo bis/Bug 323 revisions/positive rev user were edits made using the Phase II software, for example. Also edits actually *imported* from the Nostalgia Wikipedia don't have this problem(like those visible at Special:Contributions/The ansible) because the usernames are regularised during the import process. Edits imported in September 2002 do have this problem, like so. Graham87 15:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- They are UseModWiki usernames that are imported from Nostalgia Wikipedia. Thingofme (talk) 11:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, looking very carefully at the query, I think I understand what happened now. It's checking whether actor_user is null ... which is *almost* only true for IP's,now that T36873 (among others) is fixed. The only exceptions are usernames created in the database mostly in 2001/2002 with now-invalid characters like underlines, multiple spaces, and initial lowercase letters, as discussed at T2323, one of which happens to be the user whose username is sometimes stored in the database as "The_ansible". There's a series of lists of edits affected by this bug at User:Nemo bis/Bug 323 revisions. Probably the best thing to do in this case is to just keep a lookout for usernames like this ... there aren't that many of them but they're around. Graham87 10:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Group of IP User talk pages with span tag errors
The IP User talk pages in this search contain span tag errors (hex color without #) that another user is contemplating fixing, but many of them look like they meet the criteria for blanking under your bot's Task 13. If you have a way to feed qualifying pages to your bot, it would save a step to have them blanked instead of fixed. I appreciate any help you can offer. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've processed them. Now there are only 30 pages left. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 05:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. This gnoming work is truly bottomless. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Blocked IP talk
Hi. 78.31.67.68 is currently directly blocked, range-blocked, and globally range-blocked.[1] I understand the bot should not be blanking these. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 13:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, looks like the same reason as in #168.169.0.0/16 is range blocked is in play. I thought this happens only occasionally. I am running query/67633 to try and find out how much of a problem this is and find an alternate if necessary. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would like to add 73.210.155.96 for similar reasons. – The Grid (talk) 14:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- @The Grid that IP is neither blocked nor active. By all means if you think the messages are worth displaying, you can revert the bot, but this is not a case of malfunction. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- I would like to add 73.210.155.96 for similar reasons. – The Grid (talk) 14:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Template:Hover title
I have replaced a whole bunch of Hover title transclusions with tooltip|2=
in template space. It works, as long as the thing following the pipe is the first unnamed parameter and not something like |dotted=no
. I have run out of energy for today; here are 85 more. I have gotten the transclusion count down from 66K to about 13K with my edits so far. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Great. I couldn't believe this TFD merger has been pending for so long. I'll work on replacing them when I have time. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- This insource search says that there are only 1,000 pages with "[Hh]over *title\|" in all namespaces. That does not include a few redirects like the inscrutable {{H:title}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Seems more of it is from {{H:title}}. This gives 2,500 results in all namespaces. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm digging for them. There have been a few userboxes, but I haven't found one with a ton of transclusions yet. Transclusion totals continue to drop, so we're on the right track. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- After fixing a few userboxes with transclusions in the 10–50 range, I'm now seeing 3,629 transclusions and about 2,500 results from that search link (of which 1,000 are in article space). That should mean that only about 1,100 pages are transcluding the templates indirectly, so it is increasingly less useful to hunt for them. At this point, a supervised AWB run is probably needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm digging for them. There have been a few userboxes, but I haven't found one with a ton of transclusions yet. Transclusion totals continue to drop, so we're on the right track. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Seems more of it is from {{H:title}}. This gives 2,500 results in all namespaces. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- This insource search says that there are only 1,000 pages with "[Hh]over *title\|" in all namespaces. That does not include a few redirects like the inscrutable {{H:title}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Fixing lint errors with AWB
How does one fix lint errors with AutoWikibrowser? Is there a script or regex that one can use to aid in the fixing of errors? I am just curious. Rlink2 (talk) 13:00, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I used regexes like in User:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್_ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/center.js and User:MalnadachBot/Task 12/1201-1250 to fix Lint errors. AWB is suitable for fixing similar errors which are present in many pages. In mainspace this largely restricts it to Special:LintErrors/obsolete-tag. You can get pages using insource search or quarry since AWB cannot fetch pages directly from Special:LintErrors. I prefer to fix Lint errors using javascript, since I can run LintHint to catch all errors in a single edit (not possible in AWB) and use preview if necessary. I had made a video on how I do it a few days ago. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:42, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I use custom AutoEd scripts, which takes a little bit of setup but has a few nice features. One of them is automatic display of "Show changes", which saves a click for each edit. I think Wikipedia:AutoEd/core.js contains the code that does that. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's very useful.
document.forms.editform.wpDiff.click();
does the trick. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's very useful.
- You can get pages using the "generate list of links" feature of Factotum. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, will be useful when MalnadachBot is finally done with Task 13. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I use custom AutoEd scripts, which takes a little bit of setup but has a few nice features. One of them is automatic display of "Show changes", which saves a click for each edit. I think Wikipedia:AutoEd/core.js contains the code that does that. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
JS page categorising
Could you please add // <nowiki>
to the top and // </nowiki>
to the bottom of your center.js page? It's currently getting put under User pages with reference errors and Pages using center with no arguments. Thanks. Aidan9382 (talk) 11:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. If I may also add, it might be worth adding
1=
when you add the center tag using the script, as in cases like this, it can cause invalid formatting if the text has an=
for any reason. Aidan9382 (talk) 11:24, 21 October 2022 (UTC)- Seems like this is a bug with tracking categories? Pages of non-wikitext content model should be excluded from them.As for {{center}}, it works fine if
=
and|
is within ref tags or is escaped somehow. I check the diff before saving and add1=
only if necessary. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:33, 21 October 2022 (UTC)- That isn't a bug. It allows, for example, pages tagged with CSD G7 to be put into the deletion category, and Category:Wikipedia scripts to be populated. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Seems like this is a bug with tracking categories? Pages of non-wikitext content model should be excluded from them.As for {{center}}, it works fine if
Thanks
Thanks for reverting that Russian vandal on my talk page. Apparently you're the guy who made "Malanadach bot" based on your userpage? I can't read your username at all so I don't know for sure. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, it looked like a spambot that auto translates pages and reposts it. Yes, I operate MalnadachBot. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:50, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ya probably. And that's neat. I think I May have seen you around previously but not even realized that you were MalnadachBot's operator (i struggle to spell your bot's name lol) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Sambhaji
The changes i made on sambhaji's profile on Maratha Empire is well sourced&it was earlier situated on that page itself yo can check last edits.. 49.36.43.119 (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- I did check page history before reverting this and didn't find any source to support it. You don't get to demand discussion in talkpage before anyone can revert your praising unsourced edits, its up to you to discuss per WP:BRD. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:58, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Technical Barnstar | |
Thanks for your tireless work correcting linter errors! Afernand74 (talk) 09:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC) |
Linter - Old TWA template
I have spending sometime correcting linter errors. I came across an old 2017 template of the TWA/Earth (The Wikipedia Adventure) giving hundreds of linter errors. See for ex: User:TortSkills123/TWA/Earth.
Correcting it seems pretty straitghforward to me. Full disclore: i am not a tech guy :)
The template starts with "</div></div></div>". These should be moved at the end of the template to solve (most of) the issues. Is this something a bot could correct? Thanks for your time. Afernand74 (talk) 10:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Afernand74, I am aware of this and had looked do it with MalnadachBot before. This is best done as a supervised task and is not suitable for a fully automated bot like mine. User:Sheep8144402 was working on that. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:36, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your swift answer. I wrongly thought that blanking the page and replacing with the correct wikicode would have sufficed. Thanks again. Afernand74 (talk) 13:57, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Your username
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it is discourteous and uncollaborative to use a non-latin script username as a regular English Wikipedia editor. It is understandable if you primarily edit in your language Wikipedia and are not active in English Wikipedia. But having thousands of edits in English Wikipedia and persisting with this username makes harmonious editing difficult. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. Gustin Kelly (talk) 17:55, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think the OP may have, in good faith, misread or misinterpreted the username policy; they possibly meant to refer to the Non-Latin signature portion of the English Wikipedia's signature guideline (which is not a policy). – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- The OP has been checkuser blocked. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vermont/BHGANI for context.
- Regardless of that, my username does not violate username policy or signature guideline. Non-Roman script usernames are allowed. The username policy does not have special requirements based on edit count, either something is allowed or it is not. As for signature, see #Username above. After having spent a lot of time mopping up others' custom signatures, I think the default signature is the best. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Dave Butz
On 6 November 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dave Butz, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 19:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Centering
You've recently made edits in Early American publishers and printers article claiming that the <center> markup is "obsolete", which seems to be an opinion because something only becomes obsolete when it fails to work as well as some alternative markup. <center> still works fine, otherwise WP would have gotten rid of it. Also, what "error cats" are you referring to? I see nothing that indicates any sort of error. Where does one go to see if an article is in some sort of error category? Is there a list of "obsolete" markup? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Here's the list of affected pages. And this page explains the issue. At the bottom of that page, there is a link to the part of the HTML specification that lists obsolete tags. [Edited to add: You could have found all of this from the link in the edit summary for the error fix.] – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I still fail to see how <center> was causing functional problems or jamming other things up. Since <center> has always worked efficiently, what was it, exactly, they made them come up with a new way of centering? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- While
<center>...</center>
currently works fine in wikipedia, support will be dropped for it in future since it is obsolete in HTML 5. This is why they are tracked so that we can replace them in advance without causing problems. If you find the alternates difficult to use, you can continue using <center>, someone else will come and replace them. Just don't revert them as that will put the page back in error reports and attract more people till it is replaced. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- While
- I still fail to see how <center> was causing functional problems or jamming other things up. Since <center> has always worked efficiently, what was it, exactly, they made them come up with a new way of centering? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, fair enough. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:17, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Siddhaanth Vir Surryavanshi
On 13 November 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Siddhaanth Vir Surryavanshi, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 20:26, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Just my belief
I believe in equality, if we add this type of politician , Bigg Boss winner etc .. and promote them like super hero of this place , than what about who hard work to clean the city everyday just for low wages, i think they are great people but unfortunately their are not notable, this persons have their own article it includes place name etc ... So that's why i removed it that's my thoughts. goodnight.. :) Inedits (talk) 17:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Inedits: we do not list people based on subjective things like whether they are great or not. What matters is whether they are notable (for whatever reason) to have their own article. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:08, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
ನಂಗೇನೂ ಪ್ರಾಬ್ಲೆಮ್ ಇಲ್ಲ, ರಾಜಕಾರಣಿಗಳು, ಟಿವಿ ಮಂದಿಯೆಲ್ಲ ಊರಿಗೆ ಏನು ಮಾಡಿರಲ್ಲ, ಅವರ ಹೆಸರು ಇರೋದಕ್ಕೆ ಬೇಜಾರ್ ಅಷ್ಟೇ, ಮಲ್ನಾಡ್ ನವರಿಗೆ ಮಲ್ನಾಡ್ ಅವರ ಕಡೆಯಿಂದ ಶುಭರಾತ್ರಿ :) Inedits (talk) 18:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
LTA blanking
Hello, do you have a consensus to blank those pages, or a policy that supports you doing so? 331dot (talk) 09:57, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- From what I have seen, it is an acceptable practice to blank inactive LTA pages so they won't continue to exist as a shrine giving recognition to long gone vandals from years ago. This shows 30 others blanked from 2018 onwards excluding the 5 or so I blanked today. Though not directly related to LTAs, I am running MalnadachBot task 13 which involves blanking warnings and other stale messages from inactive IP talkpages. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:10, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. I'm not going to attempt to prevent you from doing so, but from what I can see the past blankings were done by administrators; I might just suggest that you give admins a heads up that you are doing something like that on pages that often act as a reference for adminstrators. (I'm not referring to the bot actions) 331dot (talk) 10:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, posted at AN. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Noting for the record that the AN thread was archived with support from 2 admins and no objections raised. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:27, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, posted at AN. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. I'm not going to attempt to prevent you from doing so, but from what I can see the past blankings were done by administrators; I might just suggest that you give admins a heads up that you are doing something like that on pages that often act as a reference for adminstrators. (I'm not referring to the bot actions) 331dot (talk) 10:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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Rainbow border
Hello! I really like the rainbow border you've created around your user pages, would you mind if I recreated something similar for my user pages using your code? I'd leave something on my userpage giving you credit. If you'd rather I didn't that's absolutely fine. All the best, – DirkJandeGeer щи 19:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, the code is at User:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/style. You can transclude it or fork it to make any changes. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 19:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Unauthorized bot
You appear to have run an unauthorized bot on your account, adding a category to many subpages of Template:TFA title and incidentally breaking various uses of those pages. See WP:Bot policy for policy on the proper running of bots. Continued running of unauthorized bots may result in a block. Anomie⚔ 01:00, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Anomie I have spread ~2,100 edits in batches over 10 days, it is not an unauthorized bot. How does it break them when I have noincluded the categories? I have been picking them from uncategorized templates reports and this seemed like low hanging fruits to clear. They are also unused as Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/36 shows. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 03:52, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Batches or not, you made hundreds of edits in a relatively short period of time. It breaks because various tools expect these to include the title and only the title, no other markup, as that's the way these have been for years. See for example User talk:AnomieBOT/Archive 13#Comments in TFA title, and also Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/Archive 16#TFA title templates on Unused templates report. Anomie⚔ 13:19, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Anomie What tools use past TFA titles? I have not edited any future templates, which is what TFA protector bot uses. Unless you have a specific tool that is broken from adding noincluded categories, your action of rollbacking 2,000 edits is an extreme overreaction. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. The bottom line is that your edits broke the intended use of the templates, and so have been reverted. You've also been informed about the bot policy, and are expected abide by it in the future if you intend to make large-scale edits. As for the report you're concerned with, the maintainers of the report have been informed as to how they "broke" it, and they're welcome to fix it in the same manner. Anomie⚔ 13:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Anomie I have no idea what game you are talking about. My edit rate is far slower than a lot of AWB users and I am perfectly willing to do this from a bot account. What I am troubled by is that you have claimed that my edits spread over 10 days adding categories to past TFA templates broke several tools, which is apparently urgent enough to mass rollback 2,000 edits and inform me after the fact. Anyone asking for rollback perm at WP:PERM/Rollback gets warned that
Misuse of the feature, even if unintentional or in good faith, may give cause for it to be removed
, yet you are not willing to explain yourself? ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)- For the record, discussion seems to have moved on to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Review Anomie's mass rollback. Anomie⚔ 19:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- What a disingenuous bit of posturing Anomie. The discussion seems to have moved over there because you refused to discuss it here and left me with no choice but to take it there. Also "casting aspersions" for lazy? Please! That's the most AGF way of describing your refusal to provide actual examples of breakages, so you can take your forgiveness and put it in a cold dark place. Doing nothing but running bots all the time seems to have put you out of touch with how normal people think, here's a helpful reminder - when someone's 2k edits are rollbacked, no valid reason is provided and refuse to discuss, they are not going to say "okay" and go about as if it is just another day.
- Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao often has more edits in one day than I had in 10 days. But of course you aren't going to call them or others with similar rate an unapproved bot and threaten to block them, because they aren't editing in your backyard. Fact remains that there is still no evidence of my edits breaking anything when you impulsively mass rollbacked. If adding noincluded categories breaks a tool, it is that tool which needs fixing. I had respect for you over your bot work, but your behaviour in this has left a bad taste in my mouth. Whenever someone IRL or online talked about toxic wikiculture or admin abuse, I would just roll my eyes... until this. I'm going to bookmark this as a golden example of an admin doing whatever they feel like without consequences, things that would have got non-admins blocked without hesitation. Continue ruling over your little fiefdom till the WMF asks for a loyalty pledge or the FRAMBAN 2.0 occurs. Your karma will catch up with you one day and as has happened with BernsteinBot, someone else will take over without much fuss and Wikipedia will continue as normal minus one "valuable" admin. After over 8 years of activity and more than 1 lakh edits across wikis later, you can have the honour of being the first person being told to stay the **** off my talkpage and do not post here again. Even OpIndia trolls and LTAs haven't managed to get such a reaction from me. Thankfully most admins are not the likes of you and are collaborative and reasonable people. It's time to fix some Lint errors and put this behind. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- For the record, discussion seems to have moved on to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Review Anomie's mass rollback. Anomie⚔ 19:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Anomie I have no idea what game you are talking about. My edit rate is far slower than a lot of AWB users and I am perfectly willing to do this from a bot account. What I am troubled by is that you have claimed that my edits spread over 10 days adding categories to past TFA templates broke several tools, which is apparently urgent enough to mass rollback 2,000 edits and inform me after the fact. Anyone asking for rollback perm at WP:PERM/Rollback gets warned that
- Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. The bottom line is that your edits broke the intended use of the templates, and so have been reverted. You've also been informed about the bot policy, and are expected abide by it in the future if you intend to make large-scale edits. As for the report you're concerned with, the maintainers of the report have been informed as to how they "broke" it, and they're welcome to fix it in the same manner. Anomie⚔ 13:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Anomie What tools use past TFA titles? I have not edited any future templates, which is what TFA protector bot uses. Unless you have a specific tool that is broken from adding noincluded categories, your action of rollbacking 2,000 edits is an extreme overreaction. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Batches or not, you made hundreds of edits in a relatively short period of time. It breaks because various tools expect these to include the title and only the title, no other markup, as that's the way these have been for years. See for example User talk:AnomieBOT/Archive 13#Comments in TFA title, and also Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/Archive 16#TFA title templates on Unused templates report. Anomie⚔ 13:19, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm not taking a position on the above, but here are some thoughts on these edits:
- Wikipedia:Database reports/Uncategorized templates is a list of uncategorized templates. I think that there is a good reason that it does not generally include subtemplates.
- Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates (filtered)/1 is probably the best report to use for unused templates. It excludes a bunch of the noise that the unfiltered report contains, including these TFA subpages and the ever-present thorn of DYK pages.
I hope that the two of you can work this out. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:16, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Bot malfunction
Hi ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, are you sure about this one here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:138.41.42.138&action=history ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:55, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: this is a case of a non-blocked IP which had not edited in 5 years when the bot fetched a list of pages to blank from quarry. But there were edits afterwards and it got blocked by the time the bot reached it. The possibility of this happening is rare, hadn't seen that before. I have reverted. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 02:27, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, no worries. When it happened, I checked about 100 of the bot's latest contributions amd wasn't able to identify a single reoccurrence, ao I then figured as much. Thanks and best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Edits and lint edits fixed
Is the comma being place correctly in the 1,000s place holder? Like it reads 1,24,000 for example? Is that how its suppose to look? Just asking, thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 21:39, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Malerooster: It is not clear to me which specific edit you are referring to. If you mean placing commas at lakh and crore positions as used in Indian numbering system, I like using that in userspace. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:41, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I didn't realize that there was a different system. Now I do. Thank you and cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 14:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
External link removed
Hi, thank you for PMing me about the link you removed! [2] Q:Why didn't you simply edit the article, and move it to an [Official Links|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links#Official_links] section? It appears to match the criteria! "Official links An official link is a link to a website or other Internet service that meets both of the following criteria: 1. The linked content is controlled by the subject (organization or individual person) of the Wikipedia article. 2. The linked content primarily covers the area for which the subject of the article is notable. " 50.39.233.38 (talk) 13:40, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- I did consider moving it down to External link section, but it was not opening for me so I could't see whether it is about the article subject or something else with similar name. Maybe it doesn't open in my geogrphical region, you can add it to External links section. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- AH, ok!
- Thank you.
- Q: the documentation is unclear to me.
- What should I type to add "Official Link" (if no wikidata exists)? 50.39.233.38 (talk) 13:58, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- I have done that here. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you!! 50.39.233.38 (talk) 14:16, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- ... just as i finally figured out how to add an infobox w link ;p 50.39.233.38 (talk) 14:18, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you!! 50.39.233.38 (talk) 14:16, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- I have done that here. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Why
Why are you racist to Arabs 2001:16A2:CC62:E500:BD88:2BC5:C46A:3881 (talk) 14:47, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- I reverted your modification of someone else's comment [3]. See WP:TPO. This isn't remotely racist. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:52, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Im on the verge of sending them off to AIV as a clear NOTHERE case. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I will if they continue hurling baseless accusations of racism and continue with their WP:BATTLE approach. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:10, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like there's been a short pause, we will see if it lasts, I trust they will find Reddit more welcoming of their sort of behaviour. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:14, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently they don't like reddit, but haven't continued the earlier nonsense. If they come back to your talkpage with accusations of racism, or try modifying any more talkpage comments, just send them off to AIV as clearly not here to build an encyclopaedia. I'm in UTC+8 so I'm off for the night. You may want to keep an eye on Special:Contributions/2001:16A2:CC00:0:0:0:0:0/40, in case they switch IPs. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:36, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Well they came back and got blocked for a week. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:13, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- They're pretty darn brazen about it. They've got an attitude that makes me think they're an LTA. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 01:09, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Well they came back and got blocked for a week. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:13, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently they don't like reddit, but haven't continued the earlier nonsense. If they come back to your talkpage with accusations of racism, or try modifying any more talkpage comments, just send them off to AIV as clearly not here to build an encyclopaedia. I'm in UTC+8 so I'm off for the night. You may want to keep an eye on Special:Contributions/2001:16A2:CC00:0:0:0:0:0/40, in case they switch IPs. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:36, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like there's been a short pause, we will see if it lasts, I trust they will find Reddit more welcoming of their sort of behaviour. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:14, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I will if they continue hurling baseless accusations of racism and continue with their WP:BATTLE approach. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:10, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Im on the verge of sending them off to AIV as a clear NOTHERE case. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 15:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- You're welcome :-) ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
My talk page
Why did you change my archiving on my Talk page? If it needed to be changed, leaving me a message to do so would be kind, but editing someone else's talk page is not copacetic. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't change archiving in your talk page, I replaced the banner which displayed archive settings. That template was marked for merger and has been deprecated for 19 months since the TFD was closed. It was not straightforward, but I have completed the merger today. It is impractical and unreasonable to ask everyone's permission before carrying out a TFD replacement. Now that you (and others) know, you are free to change it to anything else you want. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Informing me would certainly have been appropriate. Changing it for me without asking or even telling me was not. Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:21, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Help/advice needed Prince of Roblox again?
Hi mate I noticed you are somewhat familiar with this account I read some of these articles and noticed 3 new accounts were made editing all the usual topics that the banned user does like Kashmir and food this one [4] Nannyfall, [5] KushalDawar and [6] Ikeagain they all have the same point of view Pro India edits and all the accounts created within short time of each other editing exactly the same articles on food of Kashmir and people from Kashmir reinstating the old edits of the blocked accounts. I am not sure how to file a report any insights would be appreciated. KaushalZak (talk) 09:59, 27 December 2022 (UTC) [7] This one is obviously the banned users new accounts reverting your edits KaushalZak (talk) 10:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)