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Latest edit - sources for consideration

Hi! I've noticed some RSP green sources from outside of the UK taking a notably different tone than the UK sources on the topic of your latest edit:

USA Today

Entertainment Weekly

Not sure if the current sourcing is already enough so thought I'd just leave them here for you. Since the wiki article already mentions the subject being litigious and the UK's restrictive libel law I thought a non-UK perspective might be worth considering. Have a great day! Umdlye (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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Emily Scarr

Hey 13tez, I came across your sandbox draft of Emily Scarr while checking links to the recently created Katy Watson article. I hope you don't mind I added infobox stats and otherwise formatted to player article standard. Although only a stub it looks good to go, ie passes GNG, and what better month to move to mainspace than Women In Red: Women in Sports Month! If you'd like any help or assistance with it feel free to ask. I noticed when creating Watson's page that Sunderland Echo is useful for establishing notability and content, for example [1][2][3], as well as Northern Echo it seems.[4] All the best, otherwise happy to adopt draft if needed. CNC (talk) 15:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the help. I've not been on Wikipedia for a while, so I've submitted it as a draft now to improve later when I (or someone else) has time. I still want to add "Career statistics" and "Honours" sections at some point, as well as updating Template:Sunderland A.F.C. Women squad (mainly writing for my own reference later on). 13tez (talk) 20:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Emily Scarr. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Citation overkill

Regarding this edit.

There is absolutely no need to introduce so many references for a short, simple sentence. Please see WP:OVERKILL. Mark83 (talk) 10:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Disputed source removal

Why are you repeatedly removing the La Nación source, now citing WP:RSPSOURCES? Its an Argentine newspaper of record and is not listed as deprecated or unreliable. I am disputing your removal, if you wish to gain a consensus to remove please take to the talkpage. AusLondonder (talk)` AusLondonder (talk) 22:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I won't make any more edits, but because the BBC is a far more reputable and well-known source that is one of the best ones to use for current news (see Wikipedia:Suggested_sources#Current news) and its article is in English so can be more easily understood by readers of English Wikipedia. It's just stronger sourcing and is easier to read. 13tez (talk) 22:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Why is it "far more reputable"? There's already multiple sources in English there. AusLondonder (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

It's one of the most read news sources and has an established track-record for factuality. You can read more on why it's deemed more reliable and as one of the most reliable sources at WP:RSPBBC. That's why it's explicitly listed as one of the recommended sources for current news. It is true that there are already multiple English language sources there. Do you see that as a problem? After all, this is English Wikipedia, so sources should be in English if possible. A source being in English means that the readers of an article will be able to read the source too if they so wish. 13tez (talk) 23:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

No, I don't see English-language sources as a problem but I think the Argentinian source is helpful as well. I'm not suggesting the BBC is unreliable. You're suggesting the Argentinian newspaper is unreliable without evidence. Not sure why it's such a big deal. AusLondonder (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Why do you think having an Argentinian source would be helpful? I haven't claimed the Argentinian newspaper is unreliable. I'm saying the BBC is more reliable and reputable than the Argentinian newspaper and that we should use the most reliable and reputable sources possible. Do you disagree with that principle? If there was a different source even more reliable and reputable than the BBC we could use, I'd be advocating for that different source instead. However, that's not the case because, as I discussed in my last reply, the BBC is among the most reliable and reputable news sources. 13tez (talk) 23:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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Understand policies before citing them

WP:USERGENERATED refers to things like Wikipedia, where any non-expert could add third-party information. Someone using their own social media to share something about themselves is not that, instead coming under WP:BLPSELFPUB. Kingsif (talk) 23:59, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I realised that the relevant policy is WP:BLPSELFPUB rather than WP:USERGENERATED shortly after I made my relevant edit, but thanks for the heads-up! :) 13tez (talk) 00:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I just saw you undid my edit and restored the information re Keira Walsh being in a relationship with Laura Feiersinger in Keira Walsh#Personal life. WP:BLPSELFPUB says such a source may only be used if "it does not involve claims about third parties". Similarly, WP:SELFSOURCE says such a source may only be used if it "does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities)". WP:SOCIALMEDIA tells us we can only use such a source if it "does not involve claims about third parties". Since this clearly pertains to another person besides Walsh, please can you explain why sourcing from (only) Walsh's Instagram is acceptable here? Thank you! 13tez (talk) 00:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Kingsif, I hope you're doing well! I'm not sure if you got a notification for my above reply ("I just saw you undid my edit and..."), so I'm just mentioning you now so you'll definitely see it. Please read it over and get back to me when you can. Thank you! 13tez (talk) 19:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, you'll have probably noticed I've not been on Wikipedia since then, so sorry for the late reply. To answer, while I don't think there's ever been a formal discussion about it, people posting about their relationships (especially when the other party is tagged/mentioned) has always been accepted under BLPSELFPUB - the "third parties" notes were written with the intention of preventing anecdotes that would otherwise be non-RS under SOCIALMEDIA (i.e. a person recounts an event they were involved in and mentions other people, the source cannot be used on the article for the other people to say they were involved).

So while by the absolute letter of how it's written you could argue that the "third parties" note would mean, somebody posting that they are in a relationship is fine but them posting who they are in a relationship with is not, in practical terms there is no difference. And especially when their partner is tagged and so it is implicitly their publication, too. By the spirit of the policy, it's always been accepted. Of course, if you're a stickler for the exact wording, I imagine there will be posts on Feiersinger's Instagram too - when it was originally added to Walsh's article, there was just a generic Instagram link so I tried to find the posts I assumed the user had seen myself and just went with one. Kingsif (talk) 16:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for getting back to me.

while I don't think there's ever been a formal discussion about it, people posting about their relationships (especially when the other party is tagged/mentioned) has always been accepted under BLPSELFPUB

Is this written within WP:P&G, or any other rules or advice for Wikipedia? Are there any prominent examples of the editor community forming this view as a consensus? I couldn't find anything to that effect in WT:BLP or its archives.

somebody posting that they are in a relationship is fine but them posting who they are in a relationship with is not, in practical terms there is no difference

Do you not think there's a difference between somebody confirming their relationship status and somebody confirming they're in a relationship with a particular person?

And especially when their partner is tagged and so it is implicitly their publication, too

Do you think Feiersinger being tagged makes it a joint post? After all, this is different from collaborative posts on Instagram, the functionality through which posts are published jointly with other users on that platform.

Do you think, if we were to decide that an Instagram post is a suitable source to say someone is in a relationship, that this one does that? After all, the caption is only "Liab." I'm not sure which language this is, but, as far as I can ascertain, it isn't an explicit statement that the two are indeed in a relationship.

Thank you! :) 13tez (talk) 19:44, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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