User talk:Acid Of Carbon/Archive 1

Archive 1

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August 2020

Hi Nihaal The Wikipedian! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. David Biddulph (talk) 14:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Methyl hexanoate has been accepted

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Gpkp [u • t • c] 16:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

RSN

Hello Nihaal,

Your question on PubChem (etc.) should've been posted to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, not Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I've moved it there.

Cheers. François Robere (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Messing up

Very well done on creating your first article, Methyl hexanoate.You should be proud.

There are two main things you should do to avoid then "messing it up" by mistake. Firstly, never hit Publish Changes wihout first hitting the Show Preview button. This lets you see what impact you edit will have, and this is terribly important when it comes to those template boxes which can easily get wrecked by leaving out one simple character. Then, if you still mess it up, go to the View History tab where each separate edit is listed, wth the most recent at the top. At the end of the line there's an "undo" button. Click that to restore to the previous good edit. Another clever trick is to copy and paste the infobox code into your personal sandbox, and work on it there first. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC) Nick MoyesThank you for that tip Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 06:19, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole has been accepted

2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Gpkp [u • t • c] 17:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Methyl hexanoate

Hi Nihaal

Thank you for beginning to add to the chemistry articles on Wikipedia. Perhaps by working together on methyl hexanoate I can help you learn how to improve the quality of your contributions and the encyclopaedia. For example, I have now edited the article to give it some standard subheadings (Production, Uses, Safety) which are relevant to most chemicals. I've also placed the PubChem reference within the {{Chembox}} since it is the source for the properties quoted there. I removed the Chemspider reference since we chemists know that most of the chemicals in WP have one of these linked in the {{Chembox}}. Additionally, I found a book source for the statement that methyl hexanoate is found in food and beverages, removing the irrelevant reference that seemed to come from a Google search on methyl hexanoate but discussed its combustion and had nothing to do with the topic of the article!

I suggest that you now work to add more material to the article — you'll find that PubChem has many relevant citations that could be incorporated but be careful not to violate their copyright by lifting text directly: it needs to be put into your own words. The chemistry relevant to the preparation of this ester (e.g. Fisher esterification) could also be added — see ethyl acetate for the sort of description typically included. As mentioned by another user (above) you could use your sandbox to draft updates to the article and then save the new version there for me to review before it was published fully.

By all means ask me for further advice by posting into your talk page here, which I'll keep an eye on for updates. Best wishes Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 14:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi again Nihaal.

It would be more convenient for me if we could keep our discussion here on your talk page and not use mine as well, or I'll get very muddled! No need to prompt me when you add more stuff here, as I'll automatically see your edit in my Watchlist. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I see that you have added to the article a sentence about the flammability. Take a look at MOS:CHEM and WP:MOSCHEM/SAFE. Basically, our practice is not to repeat information in the main article which is already there in the {{Chembox}} unless it is something that makes the compound particularly noteworthy and needs a detailed comment. So if you look at ethyl acetate, there is nothing in that article about flammability, although we know it will be much more flammable than methyl hexanoate. EtOAc has a paragraph on overexposure because as a common lab solvent that's a likely concern.

So, try to think what makes methyl hexanoate noteworthy and add references about that instead. To me, that means more on its use as a flavouring molecule: for example you'll find it is listed as an acceptable additive in food in the USA, which is relatively unusual and needs a citation. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 12:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

It is in Pubchem.Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 14:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, so it is but that's hardly helpful to a reader of Wikipedia: Pubchem has loads of information on methyl hexanoate and the role of WP is to be selective, giving readers information that is relevant and important (in our opinion as editors), backed up with specific sources, not just to urge people to wade through Pubchem for stuff that might be of interest. To take an example, did you know that "The total annual volume of production of this group of esters of aliphatic acyclic primary alcohols with aliphatic linear saturated carboxylic acids is approximately 2334 kg in Europe, 336 kg in the USA and 801 kg in Japan. More than 80% of the annual production volume in Japan and all of the production volume in the USA are accounted for by methyl hexanoate. The estimated daily per capita intake of each flavouring agent is reported in Table 10. Annual volumes of production of this group of flavouring agents are summarized in Table 11." (see "this FAO document" (PDF).). Now, for the WP article we need to summarise these and other findings and mention that .pdf as one of our source backing up what we choose to say. What do you judge are the important facts about methyl hexanoate and the ones that will interest readers? If the article can't be expanded with interesting and notable information, then there is no justification for WP having any article at all on it. After all, Pubchem has 103 million chemicals in it and WP can only justify (perhaps) a few thousand chemistry articles: we must use our judgement as to which are WP:NOTABLE and aspire to high quality. Take a look at vitamin B12 for a chemistry article that meets the highest standards. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Please join WikiProject EstersNihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 04:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

No, sorry. I prefer to range freely over all the WP topics that interest me rather than focus on any one Project. Most of what I write has a chemical component but I haven't even joined Category:WikiProject Chemistry participants — nor have you ;-) Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 10:28, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Help with 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole . It is also my article. 13:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you need help with creating a drawing (preferably in SVG format) for 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole? If so, I can provide that. For both this compound and methyl hexanoate the articles still need more information on why they are notable. Saying that the 2,1,3 isomer is "more often confused with its isomer 1,2,3-benzothiadiazole" hardly makes it notable and you have not added any citation to back up your statement! Does the literature really claim these get confused, or is that just your own opinion? Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 14:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole (August 26)

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Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:24, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole (August 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Graeme Bartlett was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:34, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole (August 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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DGG ( talk ) 20:47, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Your signature

Please fix your new signature - it is very misleading. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC) Ok.Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 07:41, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Space-filling drawings

Hi Nihaal

You have been adding space-filling drawings to articles including 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole, which is fine. However, it is standard practice to put these into the {{chembox}}, not the body of the article. For small chemical structures, it is best to put one on the left and one on the right (see for example citric acid). Larger structures can go one below the other (see napthalene for a case with both). No caption is needed. The relevant entries will be

| ImageFileL1 = 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole.png

| ImageSizeL1 = 150px

| ImageFileR1 = 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole 1374×600 3D Conformer.png

| ImageSizeR1 = 150px

In the particular case of 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole, your structure on Commons has far too much white space around it, so the chemical forms a tiny part of the box in which it appears. You need to upload a new version with less white space. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 12:59, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole (August 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Graeme Bartlett was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

There was patents.google.com .Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 02:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe there was. However, it up to you to assess them and if they are relevant, include the actual information in the article. Note that on Wikipedia, patents count as primary sources and are much les preferred than secondary sources like review articles. That's partly because anyone can file a patent and most never get peer reviewed. You have been adding space-filling diagrams to the article, presumably in an attempt to improve it before resubmission. It won't help! No new information is added by the space-filling diagram as any chemist can already see all the information in the original structure drawing. Instead, try going to Pubmed for the compound and their references section, as advised above. I find that if you sort the references by date (the default is "by relevance" but that's in the opinion of some daft algorithm that doesn't work very well) then GO TO THE OLDEST REFERENCES. They will be the ones where the compound was first prepared and studied for its simple properties which might show it is of interest. Incorporate the actual references into the article using the |doi= and using the Help:Citation_tools to make things easy for yourself. Compare how I and DMacks have done this for 2,1,3-Benzothiadiazole, which is now growing into a much better article. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. Thanks! DGG ( talk ) 04:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 04:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Please do not contribute to closed discussions

...as you did with this edit. The discussion is boxed with an introduction "The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it." so please be sure you follow that instruction. DMacks (talk) 04:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

DMacks . ThanksNihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 14:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DGG ( talk ) 17:35, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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Your thread has been archived

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September 2020

Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Diazonium compound. It is considered vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to being blocked from editing. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. DMacks (talk) 15:44, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has been accepted

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Robert McClenon (talk) 05:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benzothiadiazole (September 8)

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KylieTastic (talk) 10:09, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benzothiadiazole has been accepted

Benzothiadiazole, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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KylieTastic (talk) 10:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

speedy deletion tags for pages you created

I think the template you want for Template:Did you know nominations/1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole is {{db-author}}. You can use it on pages that you created and for which you were the only "content" creator. You can still use it in this case since myself and the other editor only made non-content changes.

That's not quite true, I did add a caption but I took it from the filename so I don't consider that "content." In any case, since that edit was mine, I won't object to you using db-author. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: See the red link. The article was redraftified.G13 Says that.Nihaal 15:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

You placed the db-g13 template on Template:Did you know nominations/1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole, not Draft:1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. In any case, the draft itself has received substantial edits in the last 6 months, so G-13 deletion will not apply to it it's been "stale" for half a year. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

davidwr Hi David. I removed CSD Template. I improved it .Review it if you like. Acidic Carbon Corrode 11:48, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse comments

With this series of edits, you close a discussion when the comments were fairly reasonable - of the two edits at Special:Contributions/185.155.224.200, one removes referenced information, the other changes the "founded" date (without a ref) and gives a derogatory nickname ("the purchased"). Even if you do not agree this was vandalism (I would believe it is), closing a discussion is inappropriate on the Teahouse (unless the OP is strongly uncivil, or blocked for sockpuppetry or the like), and I will revert this closure shortly.

In this other series, the first half says that no template is available (when the question was precisely about creating a new one) and the second half is to be frank quite incomprehensible.

Considering that in both cases you failed to indent your posts correctly (indeed, you ended up posting on the same line as the original question), not to mention that in the first you added an extra "=" in the heading, I would strongly suggest to stop answering Teahouse questions until you have a bit more experience. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Acid Of Carbon. I originally posted similar concerns as to what Tigraan has expressed above at WT:THQ, but I'm moving my comments here since this does seem to be a better place for them. Please don't take this the wrong way because I truly believe you're trying to help, but I'm not quite sure you've got enough to experience yet as a Wikipedia editor to be answering Teahouse questions.

Some of your answers seem to be more confusing than not and actually seem to slightly misunderstand what's being asked; moreover, your close of this discussion seems unnecessarily abrupt in that you ask the OP for a link, but then close the discussion. The IP in that discussion actually did make some edits (although they might not be vandalism per se); so, I don't think the OP was necessarily attacking the IP as you wrote in your close. Lots of new editors are unfamiliar with things like WP:VANDNOT; so, they mistake every edit made that they don't understand as vandalism. This is a common misunderstanding that we often see at the Teahouse that usually can be cleared up in a much nicer way without accusing someone of attacking another editor.

There are some other things about your responses, like you don't seem to have a good grasp of WP:INDENT, that are also making discussions harder to follow in some cases; these are not necessarily not related to the content of your answers, but are the types of things that can help make what you're trying to say easier to understand by others.

Anyway, I’m not trying to discourage from editing Wikipedia, but only suggesting that you should maybe gain more experience as an editor first and then try and help out at the Teahouse. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to join everyone else, and make it a stronger one: stop responding to teahouse questions. Your answers range from wrong to unhelpful, and you are still not formatting them properly. While we appreciate you wanting to help, what you are doing is instead disruptive. DMacks (talk) 04:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Agree. Whilst we like enthusiastic editors, the incorrect responses and bad formatting are not helpful, and indicate that you are too inexperienced to be able to answer questions at the Teahouse. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:07, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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September 2020

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. DMacks (talk) 07:47, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

DMacks I actually sourced it. Patents.google.com was there.Acidic Carbon Corrode 11:17, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

The refs you added were:

• [1]: "Server Not Found".
• [2]: this is about chemicals containing this substructure but As I said, That is not a use of this chemical, it is a use of a chemical related to it. The ref does not support "1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole being converted into a substance with these properties". That is, it's off-topic for this article. It is not about 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole.

This is part of a long-term pattern of not checking the results of your edits to see how it looks on the page, confusion among this specific chemical and others that contain its structure or references that use the word "Benzothiadiazole" with a different meaning. DMacks (talk) 15:09, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

"Formyl hexanoate" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Formyl hexanoate. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 13#Formyl hexanoate until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. DMacks (talk) 16:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Formyl hexanoate

A formyl is an aldehyde. Could you clarify how this name is a synonym or somehow related to methyl hexanoate? DMacks (talk) 15:14, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I guess it was taken uncritically from Pubchem "here". Nihaal regularly takes Pubchem as gospel without thinking about whether it could be wrong (or, at best, misleading). Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 15:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: thanks for tracking it down! I checked the database PubChem cites (Metabolemics Workbench), which calls it "systematic" and then fails to cite any basis for what that even means. None of that site's refs support it. No other web hits (nor in SciFinder) except as a substring of a more complex name ("Methyl 4-formylhexanoate" seems a popular chemical) or as a structurally sane synonym for the hexanoic acid/formic acid mixed anhydride. PubChem really doesn't do chemical sanity checking, instead substring with a side order of echo-chamber:( I'll remove it all so we don't spread the nonsense further. DMacks (talk) 04:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination of Template:Did you know nominations/1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole

Acid Of Carbon, your DYK nomination of 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has a couple of significant problems.

First, you never finished the nomination process. Once you've created the nomination page, you need to transclude it if you want it to be reviewed for promotion to the main page. You never did this step. There was a post earlier on this page that noted this problem, and explained where to find the instructions for doing this; if you do want to proceed, please check it, or you could ask me for assistance.

Second, the article is far too short to qualify for DYK at the moment. The minimum for articles at DYK is 1500 prose characters; at the moment, 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole has 1052 prose characters, which means that it needs to add a minimum of 448 readable prose characters. (References, while important, do not add to character count.)

If you're still interested in pursuing this nomination, you'll need to expand the article and complete its nomination. Best of luck, and thanks for your interest in DYK! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

BlueMoonset Is it okay now.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) 10:23, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Acid Of Carbon, I'm afraid it is not. The article is only 1092 prose characters at present (at least 408 to go), and you still have not transcluded your nomination on the Nominations page per the instructions. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

September 2020: Wikipedia neither needs nor wants your persistent trolling

Kindly find something else to do with your ample free time. You have managed to waste countless hours of Wikipedia editors' volunteer efforts. Just get a new hobby, rather than a new bogus account.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Your RFA

Howdy hello! I see that you have decided to run for administrator. As a current administrator, I can say its not as simple as that. Most editors need to have a significant track record before running. While there is no official minimum, folks usually need at least 10,000 edits, and 6 months tenure, to show that they know what's up. You also need a spotless understanding of policy, and probably better grammar than what you have currently. I recommend you withdraw your request, simply by editing your self nomination to say that you withdraw. In the meantime, you should work on editing regular content, and doing what you have been doing. If you'd like some help or guidance, leave a message on my talk page and I can try to guide you in the right direction :) CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 23:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Acid Of Carbon. As CaptainEek mentioned, it does not look like your request for adminship will pass if you decide to run now. Due to a technicality (because you did not transclude the RfA page onto Wikipedia:Requests for adminship), your RfA technically has not started yet, even though a few editors already voted in it. For this reason, if you no longer wish to run, I or another administrator can simply delete the page. Just let me know. Mz7 (talk) 00:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

I, too, would suggest you take the opportunity of the technical mistake to abandon/withdraw it. As you were previously counseled, you are nowhere close to qualified to become an admin, and you will be very unhappy with the negative attention you will receive for what is truly an impossibility. Please do listen to us. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Since you didn't listen to the advice above, and attempted to transclude the RFA, I've deleted the RFA page, and prevented it's recreation for 1 year, to prevent you from wasting other people's time. If you attempt to circumvent this and recreate it at another page, I will block you from editing. You don't seem to take gentle advice, so hopefully this more direct method of communication is crystal clear. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi Acid Of Carbon! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, G5?, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to . The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} here on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Acidic Carbon  (Corrode)  (Corrosive liquid) 13:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Pnictogen hydrides redirect

I've nominated the redirect Pnictogen hydrides for speedy deletion. We don't need to create redirects for simple plurals and other things with the same common root, like past and present participles. It's already a function of the Wikimedia software to allow you to link [[pnictogen hydride]]s, which produces pnictogen hydrides, and [[appeal]]ing, which produces appealing. See WP:LINK#Style. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: I’ve RfD’d it myself, so nothing to worry.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 12:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

If you look at the history, you'll see that Deacon Vorbis declined the CSD at Special:Diff/979925925, though I disagree with it for the reason I stated above (that it's unneeded). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Hi Acid Of Carbon, please don't misuse multiple accounts in the future as you did with those listed at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Acid Of Carbon. The only reason I'm not blocking this account is because you haven't actually violated WP:SOCK since August and I'm hoping you can edit productively, but I do strongly urge to review the linked policy on appropriate and inappropriate uses of multiple accounts. Consider this a final warning, especially in light of other notices on your page to do with your disruptive editing. Maxim_(talk) 21:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC) @Maxim: Thanks for the advice.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 05:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

"Diformaldehyde" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Diformaldehyde. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 5#Diformaldehyde until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. DMacks (talk) 06:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Acid Of Carbon/Archive 1. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Heart ^(talk) 14:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).

Discussion at 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole

 You are invited to join the discussion at 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole. This is mine and yours! Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 14:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Acid Of Carbon, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.

Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 13:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Acid Of Carbon, it is very important that you reply to my question at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Acid Of Carbon. Please do so before continuing to make other edits. Maxim_(talk) 14:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Maxim, I have to admit this situation is a first for me. Glen (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

In all seriousness AOC if you don't respond you're likely to get a WP:NOTHERE block at the least. Opening a SPI into yourself plus what is this nonsense? Glen (talk) 14:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Acid Of Carbon, this is the weirdest case. Heart ^(talk) 16:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:Wikipedia:Wikipedia-term memory loss

The page Draft:Wikipedia:Wikipedia-term memory loss has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done for the following reason:

pure trolling

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Bishonen | tålk 19:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Wikipedia:Wikipedia-term memory loss has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Wikipedia:Wikipedia-term memory loss. Thanks! davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Note: This can wait, it looks like you have more important/urgent issues to deal with. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Disregard, speedy-deletion supercedes my suggestion to move it to "user space." Material that is properly speedy-deleted on the ground that page was deleted on should not be re-created without talking to the deleting admin or going through the WP:Deletion review process. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Acid Of Carbon (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I wasn’t aware of the consequences but I am here to build an encyclopaedia

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

• the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
• the block is no longer necessary because you
  1. understand what you have been blocked for,
  2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
  3. will make useful contributions instead.

More to the point, you weren't aware of the consequences of what specifically? Please name the specific actions that got you here and how you intend to behave differently.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Glen (talk) 06:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Glen: I actually understood my mistake now, I’m sorry for violating the WP things. If I get unblocked, I will go to my drafts.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 13:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Acid Of Carbon, you're welcome to make another unblock request though please address the issues above clearly. Another admin will attend to your request. Glen (talk) 13:48, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Acid Of Carbon (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have understood all my mistakes and this block is no longer needed.I promise that I won’t *disruptively edit *make nonsensical pages.

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

• the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
• the block is no longer necessary because you
  1. understand what you have been blocked for,
  2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
  3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 13:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Acid Of Carbon (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

The block will be no longer useful because:

• I understood my mistakes
• I am going to make useful contributions
• I am not going to disruptively edit.

Decline reason:

Simply rewording the instructions you've been given does not convince me of any of the three points. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 14:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for trolling. In addition, your ability to edit your talk page has also been revoked.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System.  Floquenbeam (talk) 16:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

"Acenapthoquinone" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address several redirects. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 14#Cleanup from User:Acid Of Carbon until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. DMacks (talk) 14:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Iron dioxide

Hello, Acid Of Carbon. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Iron dioxide, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 10:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)