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This week's article for improvement (week 36, 2014)

A Nunivak Cup'ig man with raven maskette – in the Raven Tales the raven is the Creator god Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Raven Tales Previous selections: Solar activity • History of West Africa Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC) •

Feminist+Queer Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 13, Portland, Oregon

			You are invited to the Feminist+Queer Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, to be held on Saturday, September 13, 2014 from noon–4pm at the Independent Publishing Resource Center (IPRC), located at 1001 SE Division (97202). Prior Wikipedia editing is not required; assistance will be available the day of the event. Attendees should bring their own laptops and power cords. Female editors are particularly encouraged to attend, but all are welcome. Hope to see you there! If you have any questions, please leave a message on the talk page. You can unsubscribe from future notifications for Oregon-related events and projects by removing your name from this list. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2014)

File:Jvc gz-mg555-02.jpg A handheld camcorder ia a typical consumer electronics device Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Consumer electronics Previous selections: Raven Tales • Solar activity Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC) •

Pentatone

So what about albums released as PENTATONE? Are you saying they should be listed as Pentatone, not PENTATONE or Pentatone Classics?

Kirkmc (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

@Kirkmc: Yes, albums released though Pentatone should be displayed as "Pentatone", not "PENTATONE". The all caps stylization does not follow Wikipedia's manual of style. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 16:14, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: August 2014

This Month in GLAM – Volume IV, Issue VIII, August 2014 Headlines France report: Subtitling, Presenting, Flying Germany report: GLAM at Wikimania Mexico report: Wikipedia goes to Tlatelolco and Colmex Netherlands report: Content donations; Project Nature; GLAMwiki 2015; Meetup the Bonnefantenmuseum Sweden report: #Dåochnu, Wikimania; members meeting UK report: Wikimania and more Open Access report: Open Access at Wikimania; Citathon Calendar: September's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2014)

Arches were used in Ancient Roman architecture to build aqueducts, such as the Aqueduct of Segovia Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Ancient Roman architecture Previous selections: Consumer electronics • Raven Tales Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:03, 15 September 2014 (UTC) •

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you! Shuhn (talk) 00:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! ----Another Believer _(Talk) 00:40, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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London Public Art Task Force

Hi there, I've decided we could do with a central discussion place for public art in London, so I went and created a London task force of WikiProject Public Art. Please join! :) I also copied our conversation to the talk page, so we can continue it there. Ham (talk) 08:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

@Ham: Like Great idea! I added my name. This is certainly a more appropriate place for my/our checklist than your talk page! :p ----Another Believer _(Talk) 17:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I've just replaced the discussion on my talk page with a link to the same discussion on WP:PALon, so you won't have to put items in the "done" box twice over now. Ham (talk) 10:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, I was just trying to reduce the clutter on your talk page (my fault), but this is the best solution. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 14:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2014)

Arches were used in Ancient Roman architecture to build aqueducts, such as the Aqueduct of Segovia Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Ancient Roman architecture Previous selections: Ancient Roman architecture • Consumer electronics Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC) •

Royal Marines Memorial

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Royal Marines Memorial, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMDYNH_Royal_Marines_Memorial_London_UK.

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Resolved

--Another Believer _(Talk) 22:21, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

• Hello, while the bot may not have identified the actual source, (it found a mirror of the source), there is still some close paraphrasing of the source [1]. The inscriptions themselves are ok to include since they're fairly central to the article, but other content such as the descriptions of the engravings can be re-written without changing the meaning or significance. If you wouldn't mind, can you have a look at the source linked and the article content and rephrase the closely paraphrased bits? The copyright case started by the bot is still pending, and the copied content is likely to be cut out if not rephrased. Thanks for your contributions, Crow^Caw 15:35, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thanks for putting so much work into creating articles on public art in London! Ham (talk) 06:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, User:Ham! I've enjoyed the work, though I must say I am relieved others are also interested in London's public art because my list of new articles to create (since my visit to London) was very long. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 14:39, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Wikipedia Motivation Barnstar
		For endless encouragement to the participants at WikiProject Public Art/London‎! AnonNep (talk) 22:13, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

@AnonNep: Thanks so much! I don't think I have seen this barnstar before. :) ----Another Believer _(Talk) 22:15, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2014)

Aerial photograph of George Bush Intercontinental Airport, an international airport in Houston, United States Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: International airport Previous selections: Ancient Roman architecture • Ancient Roman architecture Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2014 (UTC) •

WikiCup 2014 September newsletter

In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer Godot13 (submissions) has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion Cwmhiraeth (submissions) is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. Casliber (submissions), who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

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This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2014)

Seasoned and chargrilled lamb fillet steak Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Steak Previous selections: International airport • Ancient Roman architecture Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2014 (UTC) •

A new toy!

Check out what I added to Wikipedia:Meetup/DC! Harej (talk) 02:44, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

And this is what that neat little form produces. Harej (talk) 02:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

@Harej: James, this is so great! Close to what I was imagining for this idea. If you have time, would you mind sharing your work on the idea lab project page, perhaps including relevant information such as your process, what this "toy" can and cannot do, etc? I think, ideally, this tool could go one step further and possibly create categories automatically, feature a popup which allows users to insert template parameters, etc. But this is a solid tool already, and something I could not have come up with on my own, so THANK YOU for your work. Do you plan to make this tool available at other campaign/meetup pages, or shall we use DC as a pilot for a while? ----Another Believer _(Talk) 14:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 8

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Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga: Cheek to Cheek Live!

Do you think this can be created? Seems it is getting enough third party notability. If you think yes, please create it in a sandbox first. I don;t want bothering AFDs. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 12:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I would say that yes, it deserves an article. That being said, I still think some of the Artpop songs also deserve articles, so perhaps my threshold for separate articles is lower than other people. I went ahead and created the page Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga: Cheek to Cheek Live!, which follows WP's manual of style. Looking forward to seeing this article expand! ----Another Believer _(Talk) 14:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Monument

Would you please aks the Foundation? They only allowed the use of the ball - tjere is no plan to send a person to the ceremony. Same with Wikimedia Deutschland. There will be the Vice president Sebastian Wallroth - but not as official, he will be there in private. Wikimedia Poland actually knows also not much about it - it all was made without any chapters. Please take it away. It is not correct. By the way - how you can write in an encyclopedia (!!!) about things that will come? Enyclopedias are there for Knowledge - not for things that could happen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 10:15, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

The article needs to be constructed from information presented by third-party, reliable sources, and it has been. I don't have time to check with the Foundation about representation at the dedication ceremony. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 14:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Wow - so your work is worth exactly what? I will attend and I was today at the burp of Wikimedia Deutschland. But you "know" better... Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not sure I understand. You are welcome to ask questions, or express concerns about the article on its talk page. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 06:29, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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This Month in GLAM: September 2014

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This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2014)

Central America is the geographic region that connects North America and South America. Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Central America Previous selections: Steak • International airport Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:04, 13 October 2014 (UTC) •

Data on Art and feminism editathons

Hi Jason! Hope this finds you well. I wanted to reach out to see how I can help you to get some of your program evaluations included in this year's round of voluntary reporting. I have in my records that you were involved in the Art & Feminism editathons, is this correct? I know from project pages that you have done some amazing work and been documenting the outcomes. I was wondering if you are the right person to ask for the data gathered from these events? Can you please write back to me to my talk page, or email me to mcruz [at] wikimedia [dot] org? Thanks! MCruz (WMF) (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Responded at the appropriate venue. --Another Believer _(Talk) 23:29, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting Feedback for Art+Feminism grants

Hello Another Believer. Thanks for giving the thumbs up to our post on the A+F talk page. As you saw, we have written two linked PEG and IEG grants. We have given extensive community notice, but haven’t generated substantial feedback. We would really like your feedback, comments and questions, and if you support the grants, we would appreciate your endorsement of one or both of them. Additionally, we have confirmed International Women's Day, March 8th 2015 as the date of the international editathon. We hope you will be able to participate! On behalf of my co-organizers.--Theredproject (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:54, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Wikipedia Monument

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This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2014)

Inside an ice hotel in Jukkasjärvi, Sweden Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Ice hotel Previous selections: Central America • Steak Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:04, 20 October 2014 (UTC) •

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This week's article for improvement (week 44, 2014)

Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, the world's first national park Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: National park Previous selections: Ice hotel • Central America Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:05, 27 October 2014 (UTC) •

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Another Believer:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:30, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Thanks so much! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Another Believer:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
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Thanks, @SNUGGUMS: You, too! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

No problem :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:34, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Stephen Cox

Where there's no infobox, I prefer not to have an image before the fist line of text, so that the subject's name appears early in the flow of the document. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Got it! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 45, 2014)

A pizza is an oven-baked flat bread typically topped with tomato sauce, cheese and various toppings Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Pizza Previous selections: National park • Ice hotel Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:23, 3 November 2014 (UTC) •

WikiCup award

Awarded to Another Believer for participating in the 2014 WikiCup. J Milburn (talk · contribs), The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 21:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014: The results

The 2014 WikiCup champion is Godot13 (submissions), who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. Casliber (submissions), WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

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• Godot13 (submissions) wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
• Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
• Casliber (submissions) wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
• Czar (submissions) wins the prize for fourth place
• Sturmvogel 66 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• Bloom6132 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• 12george1 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• ChrisGualtieri (submissions) wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
• Caponer (submissions) wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
• Sven Manguard (submissions) wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
• Figureskatingfan (submissions) wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
• ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.

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Beatriz Preciado

Hi User:Another Believer. I created and have been editing the article for Beatriz Preciado. I'm wondering if you could review the article and its talk page. There has been some debate about the removal of the "notability" and "unreliable sources" tags, though I have made the argument on the talk page that these notification boxes should be removed. Would be curious to have your perspective. Thanks! OR drohowa (talk) 17:17, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

• Responded at the appropriate venue. --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:32, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Washington statue

Hi. I did a delete on the Washington template of the Portland statue because it doesn't seem like a major monument or very well known artwork of Washington, and is already listed on his 'List of Memorials' page. There are dozens of statues of Washington, and it seems it might be better to just list the very major ones on the template (I've removed two others and added one). That's my reasoning on it, and wanted to come by to let you know the "why". Thanks, and if you really think it's worth putting back at least let's move it further down in the section past the more major tributes and monuments. Good to meet you, any friend of Washington is an editor of mine. Randy Kryn 00:54 8 November, 2014 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: No problem, thanks for letting me know! BTW, there are two other (distinct) sculptures of Washington by Coppini,; they should probably have articles as well. I added red links to the appropriate articles, and maybe I will get around to creating them some time soon. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:49, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, and I feel bad about removing artwork from a template (but there are so many tributes to Washington, they multiplied like rabbits for a time there). I haven't done a item-by-item look at the memorials. Is there a main Coppini statue, the one you did the page on? Maybe I was wrong, and if it is the main memorial to Washington in the State of Washington then that is surely worth a listing. Because of your edit I put some attention on the template again, and found two brothers and one sister that were missed (see multiplying like rabbits reference above). Randy Kryn 8:57 9 November, 2014 (UTC)

You should not feel bad. I was not offended. I wonder if it would be worth having a navbox dedicated specifically to sculptures of Washington? The Coppini article I created is for the sculpture in Portland, Oregon, but I would not consider it a "main" sculpture or think it is any more important than the other two statues he created of Washington. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:28, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 46, 2014)

Sleeping is part of everyday life Hello, Another Believer. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Everyday life Previous selections: Pizza • National park Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of EuroCarGT (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC) •

Chess Players

Do you have a source for the assertion that the sculpture The Chess Players in John Marshall Park is "based on the 1876 Eakins painting of the same name"? The men are younger and do not resemble those in the painting, they are seated facing forward (rather than opposite each other), and their dress is not Victorian. Except for playing the same game, how are they related? == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

• @BoringHistoryGuy: I must have added it for a reason, but since the inline citation does not confirm the claim and I can't find a source after a quick Internet search, I removed "based on the 1876 Eakins painting of the same name" from the article. I imagine the sculpture still needs an article, though. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:18, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Maybe the sculptor made a comment about it. Or maybe it's an urban legend. Either way, I think you made the right choice until it can be sourced. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:39, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Rice Lofts

"Great to see someone working on so many Houston-related articles! On the off chance you are not already familiar, you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Houston or Wikipedia:WikiProject Texas. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:21, 11 November 2014 (UTC)"

Thanks for taking the time to rename and rate the Rice Lofts article. The article still needs much improvement, and hopefully there will be other editors who will jump in. But it seems that you have doubts that the recent edits improved the article. I'm looking it over for any mistakes (again) and will make any needed corrections. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Cheers, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 19:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)oldsanfelipe

Can you show where I renamed and rated the article, or addressed concerns about it? I am not sure I know what you are referring to. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

That's my mistake. I think it's time for me to step away from the computer. Thanks for your patience. Oldsanfelipe (talk) 00:09, 16 November 2014 (UTC)oldsanfelipe

Hah, no problem whatsoever. I was just confused, but thanks for clarifying. Wish I had more time to work on Houston-related articles. Hopefully I will stumble across more articles written by you since I enjoy reading them. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:25, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Your photo on front page of The Oregonian

You should buy a copy of today's Oregonian, because one of your photos of Montgomery Park is on the front page, with credit to "Another Believer/Wikimedia Commons". It's in a sidebar to this article (Nov. 19 online, Nov. 20 in print), which appears to have been included only in the print edition. I learned of it from the "Newseum" website, where a low-res jpeg of the cover appears, but the Nov. 20 one will disappear about 20 hours from now (and not be archived), replaced by the Nov. 21 edition. SJ Morg (talk) 14:45, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I just remembered that if you click on "PDF" on that Newseum page, you can download a high-resolution version of the page. SJ Morg (talk) 14:48, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Wow, very cool. Thanks for the heads up! I will be sure to find a copy. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Nice! I ran across another of your photos somewhere recently, I'll see if I can remember... Valfontis (talk) 18:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

@Valfontis: Thanks, Val. You might check to see if I did not already find it and add it to my Credits page at Commons. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Psst. Don't call Valfontis "Val", I hear she hates that. :) Valfontis (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Uh oh! Noted. Sorry, I have a habit of abbreviating usernames. :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:05, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

No worries AB. No one has managed to come up with a good nickname for my username. Maybe VF? P.S. I think I saw your pic in the 'Merc or the WW so you already know about it. Keep up the good work. Valfontis (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Congrats! -Pete (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

AB, many of us do it. ;) — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 22:09, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Top Level Design

You should have contacted me about the bot moving the period. I've added the article to Check Wikipedia's whitelist. This will stop the detection of an error, thus the bot won't arrive there. However, this won't stop a bot from changing it again if it arrives at the article for a different reason. Bgwhite (talk) 22:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: Thanks for adding the article to the whitelist and for the heads up. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:12, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hogg Building

It appears that "See Also" is for internal links. We must have been editing at the same time. I thought I had forgotten to click "save." Now I understand my mistake. cheers, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2014 (UTC) oldsanfelipe

• @Oldsanfelipe: No problem! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:58, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

General Philip Sheridan

Your comment here has me thinking about a related article. Does the Sheridan article look like it could pass GA? APK whisper in my ear 00:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

@AgnosticPreachersKid: I have not scrutinized the sources, but the article reads pretty well to me. It is probably worth nominating for Good article status if you feel confident that the article incorporates all of the most important aspects of the sculpture and its history. You are building a nice showcase for yourself with these public art articles. :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:14, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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@Ham: Wow, I didn't even realize. Thanks for letting me know and for the "birthday" greeting. I am very much enjoying the London public art project. Wish I could do even more and I can't wait to get back to London one day and explore further. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:44, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

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It seems like you should link to this Diogenes, who was the guy with the lantern (according to Wikipedia), but maybe you have another plan in mind. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:54, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Ahh, thank you. I had planned to search for the correct Diogenes (hence the "not done" reminder above), but you beat me to the punch, which is very helpful. Thanks so much!  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Genealogy

• Interesting proposal. I'll give it a bit of a chew-over and see what I think in a while. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:10, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
  • @Ser Amantio di Nicolao: No problem! All contributions to the discussion are welcome, regardless of support, opposition or just asking questions or voicing concerns. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

• Sounds interesting, Another Believer, but unfortunately too swamped and don't have time right now. Good luck! — Cirt (talk) 18:52, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
  • No problem, was just an invitation to participate in the discussion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:55, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

• Would have profound reservations about a general genealogical project, given accuracy, BLP and data protection concerns. To my mind what would be better is to have a project that was more like a continually updated wiki based version of the Dictionary of National Biography, (English Wikisource has a long term project to transcribe the 1900 DNB, and that could form the basis of a new project.) A Biographical Dictionary is different from the scope of Wikipedia, and some items that are notable for it would not be on Wikipedia. (academics with a small publication record for example.) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hotels navbox

I hope the new navbox you created, Hotels in Portland, Oregon, doesn't encourage people to create articles on every hotel in Portland, because the vast majority are not notable, and articles on subjects like that tend to require a lot of monitoring to keep them free of promotional info. The hotels (and ex-hotels) formerly included in the Architecture in Portland navbox were originally supposed to be only the architecturally notable ones, and it's regrettable that that people started adding every building of each type to that navbox (which is why it became too large). I'm not convinced that we need a navbox for Hotels in Portland, but that doesn't mean I'm proposing its deletion. SJ Morg (talk) 07:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: My goal was to begin taking steps to eliminate the Architecture in Portland, Oregon template, which I think is subjective and not particularly helpful. So, I created separate templates for Hotels and Theatres. I agree that most hotels are not notable, but the ones that are should be grouped together. The template might be more helpful, though, if it separated current hotels from former hotels (either because they are ex-hotels or were demolished). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 07:55, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you about the Architecture navbox, but why do we need a Hotels navbox at all? We have Category:Hotels in Portland, Oregon, and in my opinion, categories are much less likely to encourage people to create articles on non-notable entities than navboxes are. SJ Morg (talk) 08:08, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: I created one for Portland after seeing similar templates for Chicago, London, NYC, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., etc. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 08:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot navbox abuse on Wikipedia, and my feelings about this navbox really extend to many other navboxes – including both certain others created by you and also ones that have nothing to do you with you or Oregon. Navigation boxes that simply include all items in a (single) category and nothing else usually serve no valid purpose, unless they include red links for articles which really do warrant being created – often they instead include red links for articles that I don't believe should be created – and they do have a drawback: They often make it difficult or impossible to use "What links here" to determine for an article such as, say, Hillsdale how many other articles have 'legitimate' links to it. I suspect that a lot of editors create navboxes solely for the purpose of filling up "what links here" for articles that otherwise might be orphans, and I don't believe that's helpful. I'm not a deletionist, but there are enough inclusionists around here that I'm concerned that my taking up this argument might, in the end, turn out not to be a productive use of my limited Wikipedia time.

I realize this is something that should be discussed in a broader forum, not on your talk page, but I need to avoid taking time to initiate and participate in any such discussion for now, because I have too many obligations in real life until at least February. (I had to spend several hours fixing a major error in William Spencer Newbury, which I'd intended to nominate for DYK, a delay which caused me to miss the DYK deadline, and now I'm even further behind in non-Wikipedia 'work'!) But I wanted to at least reply to your comments above. For now, I'd prefer that you avoid creating navigation boxes which simply duplicate categories, but you are free to disagree. SJ Morg (talk) 18:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: Thanks for your feedback. Well, filling up the "what links here" for articles is certainly not my reason for creating navboxes. Though I do use "what links here" often, I never thought about navigation boxes affecting "what links here" in an illegitimate manner. I do not share the same observation re: red links in navboxes. By definition, navboxes are intended to include only existing articles and not red links. I remove red links or plain-text (non-linked) entries from navboxes at any opportunity. I will continue creating navboxes for Portland's neighborhoods, as I believe it is helpful to group together articles related to specific geographic jurisdictions, but I will probably hold off on the Architecture navbox until a wider discussion can be had. Besides, I am spreading myself too thin right now, between the Portland neighborhoods project, offline Wikimedia work, and "real life" work. Good luck getting though January! :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I maintain that categories (e.g. Category:Hillsdale, Portland, Oregon) already "group together articles related to specific geographic jurisdictions" sufficiently in cases like the neighborhoods of Portland, and I see no good reason to create navboxes for most of them. SJ Morg (talk) 19:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: Why some and not others? Is it about the number of entries? Template:Buckman, Portland, Oregon has many entries, for example. And having re-read the definition of a navbox, I am inclined to think that they are justified, but I could also see how someone could argue the opposite. I think that ideally the neighborhood articles would be more fleshed out and mention the navbox entries throughout the prose, and entries within a particular navbox would references one another (either in the prose or via See also sections). The problem is, many of the articles are underdeveloped. So perhaps I am skipping ahead of the work it takes to flesh out many of the articles and show how the navbox entries are related, but I still think the navboxes create a good foundation for grouping together sites specific to particular neighborhoods. I do see your point about duplicating the purpose of a category. Maybe I am just more of a navbox person than a category person? Also, keep in mind the navboxes can be formatted to further separate houses, hotels, restaurants, events, MAX stations, etc., as appropriate. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 21:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly about any of this, and you have some valid points, but to answer your question "why some and not others?" – I again go back to my point about duplicating categories. Every single entry in that Buckman navbox is in the Buckman category, and (I assume) vice versa, so they duplicate one another. That Buckman navbox really should be divided into sections, grouping different types of subjects/buildings into sections within the box, and then it will do something that the Buckman category does not. Then, even I would consider it a helpful navbox (but I think it should have been divided up before it was created), but for neighborhoods whose navboxes have very few entries and which are 100% the same as the entries in the corresponding category, I would say those shouldn't have been created in the first place – for example, the Template:Hillsdale, Portland, Oregon (only three entries!), Template:Arbor Lodge, Portland, Oregon (four entries) and Template:Richmond, Portland, Oregon (only 11). But we're not going to agree on this. I just wanted to explain why I believe navboxes for some Portland neighborhoods make sense, while others do not. SJ Morg (talk) 22:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: I appreciate your explanation. I do agree that some of the navboxes would be more helpful if they had sections separating different types of buildings, etc., and I am not against someone making those changes. It is something I might get around to doing myself, but right now I am spending time identifying and grouping sites by city quadrant, then by neighborhood, and creating many new Wikipedia and Commons categories, add interlinks, categorizing Commons images, etc. I've been finding neighborhood boundaries, inspecting maps, tagging Oregon articles without coordinates, associating nonexistent both possibly notable sites as future Wikipedia articles, etc. In other words, doing a lot of time-consuming work, but not perfectly. I am not sure we will agree about the value of the naxboxes, but at the same time I would not be offended if this topic in general, or specific templates, were put up for discussion. In the end, I want what is best for the wiki and not my personal preferences, but in the meantime, I am adding what I believe are constructive edits to the project. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 00:17, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2015)

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DYK for Statue of Charles II, Soho Square

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Precious again

Oregon Weather Machine
Thank you, Jason, for quality articles such as Weather Machine, 10 Songs for the New Depression, lists of Grammy Awards and articles for project Oregon, "always a pleasure to read", for maps, images and a clear user page. - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were the 715th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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List of sculptures in Central Park

Hello, A.B.
I'm suggesting that a table be added to the List of sculptures in Central Park. This would make the list much easier to use – alphabetical, complete, no arbitrary groupings – and the GPS coordinates would (eventually) generate a map of all the works. You've started articles on a number of the sculptures in Central Park. I hope you'll be interested in putting in your 2-cents at Talk:List of sculptures in Central Park#Table?
Thanks. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 22:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Your work in creating the individual articles is making filling in the table easy. The best part is being able to generate a map of all the sculptures. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: Glad to hear! Sometimes I get negative feedback when I create many stubs or articles about such specific topics, but I think it helps the encyclopedia. I can't wait to see what the Central Park sculptures list will look like once "complete".

Also, FYI, following is a list of NYC-related sites missing Wikipedia articles, if you know of any New Yorkers looking to work on filling gaps:

• 5 in 1
• Chester Alan Arthur (sculpture)
• Columbus Monument (New York City)
• Dr. Sun Yat-sen (Chun-Hsiung and Kang)
• Father Demo Square
• Father Duffy (sculpture)
• Fiorello H. La Guardia (Estern)
• Folly (Feinstein)
• George M. Cohan (sculpture)
• John Watts (sculpture)
• Madison Square Fountain
• Roscoe Conkling (sculpture)
• The Family (sculpture)
• Triumph of the Human Spirit Memorial
• Winston Churchill Square

---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm in Philadelphia, and though I recognize a few of these, I know next to nothing about them.

I think the best way to handle Central Park is to follow the introduction with a "Selected sculptures" section with the pieces already written, then the table with a list of all the works. That way we get both detail and completeness. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Is Columbus Circle considered part of Central Park? I've found some sources that list it as so, but SIRIS does not. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:24, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: Great question, but I'm afraid I don't know the answer. I don't know if it is technically within the boundaries of the park, but it is adjacent and I imagine many people would connect the two to one another. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'll leave Columbus Circle out for now. It would be easy to add later. Would you please take a look at the article's lede? It needs to be rewritten. Thanks. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

2011 White House shooting

@Biblioworm: Thank you so much! Your time and assistance is much appreciated. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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RE:Great work!

Thank you :)! Of course I'll help, I'm so hyped for the new album! You too keep up with the good work--Bleff (talk) 21:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

How to delete?

Sorry to bug you Another Believer. There is this article called Debut Box Set – The CD Singles Collection from Debut which I just find out that refers to an unofficial release. This is the first time I found an article that needs to be deleted, what can I do? Fabrictii (talk) 20:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Fabrictii: No need to apologize. I (think I) nominated the article for deletion, so a discussion will begin as to why it should or should not be deleted. You might state why the album article should be deleted on its talk page and/or add to the deletion discussion when you have a moment. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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Mozambique

Hi, I saw your edit on the Mozambique poisoning, and was curious if you are any good with map templates. We were discussing on talk whether the map could go inside the template, rather than below it, but my hamfisted attempts at copy-pasting from other articles with maps in their templates isn't working.

BTW, re the pixels, my goal was to get the widths aligned at whatever width.

Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I wish I knew how to add the map to the infobox. I think the two images are too large, which is why I reduced their size, but I will let others determine the best image widths and maps to add. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I have no problem with the images being smaller. I'll take the question to the help desk. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 01:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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Email

Hey Jason, dropped you one at your Wikipedia address. Let me know what you think. Blurpeace 01:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done Happy to help! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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Waterfront Blues Festival

I have proposed deletion of Waterfront Blues Festival as not notable. As I have not been able to find WP:RS to establish WP:NOTE of this event. XFEM Skier (talk) 22:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I removed the tag and posted a few links on the talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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