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Category:Slovenian Chetniks has been nominated for discussion
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Your opinion - List of Serbs?
I would like to hear your opinion on this matter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Serbians
Thank you.
- What would be the next step following the voting? I'm new with this and thus the question, but it seems that the majority is in for the change of name. Mm.srb (talk) 09:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2019 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.
Our top scorers in Round 1 were:
- L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
- Adam Cuerden, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
- MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
- Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
- Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
- Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).
These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!
Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.
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WikiCup 2019 May newsletter
The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:
- Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
- Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
- Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
- Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.
Other notable performances were put in by Barkeep49 with six GAs, Ceranthor, Lee Vilenski, and Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.
So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.
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Your draft article, User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Pahomije iz Reke
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Serbia - GAN
Hello Antidiskriminator, I would like to ask for your help regarding Serbia's (I hope near) future GA nomination.
Which parts could be improved and all in all do you think that there are arguments in favour of the nomination?
One more thing, if you should ever need some literature or academia papers which are not available online, I am willing to get them and photograph them for you when I'm in Belgrade, taking in consideration that you have done a great work on Serbia-related themes on en.wikipedia.
Cheers, Mm.srb (talk) 15:42, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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Šadrvan
Thanks m8. Will do. ;) That whole topic (islamic heritage) is thinly covered on sr. wiki.
Btw, i'm a great fan of your work. I've read a whole bunch of articles, where accidentally saw u were the author :) I've quite by chance recently, when looking at the permanently blocekd list at sr.wiki, found out that u're on it. And for quite some time. Have any interest editing at sr.wiki again? I'll bet u'll be unblocked in a min if u want to. Kinda, always lacking good authors at sr.wiki, and especially glad to see when they share the same (editing) interests as i do :) --Ivan VA (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Ivan VA.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:28, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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June 2019
Hello, Antidiskriminator, I saw that you made a draft for a new article at User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Hierodeacon Mojsije. Short term hosting of potentially valid articles and other reasonable content under development or in active use is usually acceptable. But in this case, you haven't edited your draft for a long time. If you wish to improve the draft yourself, please do. Otherwise, you may consider donating it to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts (a participant can help). Is there any content that could be merged into the existing article Mojsije Dečanac? GretLomborg (talk) 06:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Your draft article, User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Demonisation of Russia
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Your draft article, User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Bua family
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Your draft article, User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Serbian uprising (1594)
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Your draft article, User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/Serbdom fallacy
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They deleted your userspace entries and call it progress
The thing I have done to avoid this is use {{user sandbox}} instead of {{Userspace draft}}. The latter puts your sandbox into a category that well-meaning busy-bodies will clean out, ostensibly to help AfC. WP:G13 was meant to help empty the draft namespace but has been used in the userspace against well-established editors, against G13's remit. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2019 July newsletter
The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
- Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
- Adam Cuerden, with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
- SounderBruce, a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
- Usernameunique, with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics
Contestants managed 4 (5) featured articles, 4 featured lists, 18 featured pictures, 29 good articles, 50 DYK entries, 9 ITN entries, and 39 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and it is imperative to claim them in the correct round; one FA claim had to be rejected because it was incorrectly submitted (claimed in Round 3 when it qualified for Round 2), so be warned! When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.
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Demonization of Serbs draft
I don't know do you have any new plans with the draft on Serb bashing (which is solid as it is, in my opinion)? This book could be a fresh addition to the page - https://books.google.rs/books?id=RDq8b_8Q_gEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Serbs+as+a+nation&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE2ujL_s7jAhUJ-aQKHaJWBpsQ6AEIQjAE#v=onepage&q&f=false
As well as - *http://www.nspm.rs/nspm-in-english/serb-demonization-as-propaganda-coup.html *https://www.politico.eu/article/serbia-croatia-hungary-orban-migrants-schengen-crisis/ *https://www.academia.edu/4239616/Vampire_Nation_Violence_as_Cultural_Imaginary._By_Tomislav_Z._Longinovic_Slavonica_1_2013 Removed
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- Mm.srb I of course have plans with that draft, but I am quite busy in real life so I doubt I will do anything with it soon. My plan is to merge that text, or portion of it, into some other article about public opinion and propaganda during Yu wars. I will do it when I have some more time. Let me present you a quote attributed to Socrates, father of Western philosophy: “The secret of change is to focus all your energy not on fighting the old but on building the new.” All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Backlog Banzai
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
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WikiCup 2019 September newsletter
The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.
Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.
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Hapšenje Draže
Pošto vidim da baš pišeš ove članke, jel bi mogao da baciš pogled na ovaj članak trenutno kandidovan za sjajan. Na szr se već vodi debata. Elem, pošto si blokiran, možeš meni ovde da napišeš šta misliš o članku i to. Ako već nećeš da ti skidaju blok na sr.wiki. Pošto sam ja trenutno u pisanju nekog drugog velikog članka, i nisam najbliži sa celom ovom tematikom oko hapšenja/nisam toliko duboko kopao. A vidim ti pišeš o WWII dnevno ovde, pa tipujem da si verziran u tematiku. Inače, pišem i jer znam da je ova tematika prilično big deal na našem govornom području i da će članak biti čitan dosta, zato što više recenzija to bolje (da ne bude optuživanja za POV, što sam recimo već čuo od istoričara Mila Bjelajca za neke članke o WWI na sh.wiki). --Ivan VA (talk) 11:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ivan VA. Thank you for inviting me to take a look at that article. I am unable to perform FA review of the article because I do not know enough about current guidelines and rules at sr.wiki. What I can say is that I agree with observations on the talkpage which can be summarized like:
- POV issues - not major but enough for article not to be FA
- issues with sources and their interpretation - not major but enough for article not to be FA. (i.e. Бојан Димитријевић и Коста Николић, имали су прилику да прегледају документа из архиве Безбедносно-информативне агенције (БИА), као и друга доступна документа везана за операцију хапшења Михаиловића, чиме су се уверили у њихову аутентичност. says the text of the article cited with three sources. The first source does not support the assertion, the second source says the contrary "Ranijim istraživanjima u Vojnom arhivu utvrdili smo da se dokumenti koji razrešavaju ovaj problem ne čuvaju. .... Uz činjenicu da je ova institucija bila nosilac operacije zarobljavanja i streljanja 1946, ovo je potvrđivalo da je takva građa morala da postoji i da je određeno vreme čuvana u ovoj instituciji.... Prema istraživanju u dokumentaciji BIA, obavljenom 26. maja 2009, ustanovili smo da je verodostojna verzija prema kojoj je general Mihailović zarobljen od strane grupe OZN-e za Srbiju uz „pomoć“ Nikole Kalabića. Raspoloživi dokumenti u posedu BIA nedvosmisleno potvrđuju verziju koja je u javnost došla putem literarno obrađenih iskaza pripadnika ove grupe." The only assertion about authenticity was confirmation of authenticity of official version based on the available documents in official security institution. The text of the article does not explain that many documents are missing, because somebody removed them leaving only the documents which confirm the official version.
- too long and detailed article - I think this is important issue.
- The clarity of the prose is not good. The text is difficult for reading because of too many details. Its difficult for reading and the main events are not clearly presented to the readers.
- I would only add that the article does not contain reactions of big powers, except Stalin. I think that representatives of big powers did react on the arrest of Mihailovic. That is much more important than who played what role in a movie about this arrest.
- Nevetheless, having in mind my previous interactions with main contributor to that article, I can see that they did their best to be neutral, though sometimes it was not enough. I wish you a good luck with writing the Islamic culture article. The medieval period of Ottoman history was my main subject of interest in first years of my engagement on en.wiki. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:41, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- The guidelines for notable/excellent articles on sr.wiki are the following ones.
- Glede Dimitrijevićevog i Nikolićevog članka, ja sam čitajući taj članak razumeo da su oni potvrdom autentičnosti dokumenata potvrdili zvaničnu, tj. jedinu/istinitu verziju priče. The text of the article does not explain that many documents are missing, because somebody removed them leaving only the documents which confirm the official version.. Ja ovo nisam mogao da nađem u članku. Građa koja fali je građa o streljanju i mestu streljanja. To je zaključak članka. Ali, kako sam ja pročitao, oni su kao objektivni istoričari, potvrdili verzije iz kojih je članak pisan, dakle ove knjige iz 70ih i 80ih. Oni su utvrdili istinu takoreći. (inače u onoj njihovoj biografiji iz 2004-e o Mihailoviću (imam ceo onaj set knjiga) su tad, pre uvida,, tvrdili da se ne zna istina šta se desilo)
- Ostale primedbe ću prenuti Pinkiju. --Ivan VA (talk) 19:04, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- The text of the source discuss two main questions: do danas nisu dokumentovano razjašnjena dva pitanja: 1) na koji način je OZN-a za Srbiju, uz pomoć OZN-e za Jugoslaviju i jedinica KNOJ-a i Narodne milicije, zarobila generala Mihailovića 1946. godine; 2) kojeg dana i na kojoj lokaciji je izvršena presuda (egzekucija) i gde su pokopani zemni ostaci generala Mihailovića i ostalih osuđenih? The source cocludes: Do najnovijih vremena srpska istoriografija nije došla do dokaza koji bi opisali i arhivskom građom dokumentovali razjašnjenje ova dva pitanja. Nijedan istoričar koji je istraživao ovu temu nije došao do relevantnih podataka koji bi razrešili ova pitanja.
- The chapter which directly referst to arrest says: Raspoloživi dokumenti u posedu BIA nedvosmisleno potvrđuju verziju and intervjuisali smo....oni su potvrdili autentičnost te verzije and u takođe su potvrdili autentičnost priče.
- Ivan VA, I apologize if I am wrong, but I think that the source does not support the assertion that two historians were able to see for themselves that the OZNA/BIA documents are authentic. The source clearly emphasizes that until today two questions are not resolved: how DM was arrested and when and where he was executed. I think that the source says that the available documents in BIA and three interviewed people (two of them members of OZNA, one of JVUO which does not guarantee his interview is more authentic) confirm the official version. Whether the documents are complete and authentic or not, that is not confirmed by two historians in question. It is of course of no surprise that available OZNA documents support the official version. Is that version authentic? Nobody knows. Best regards.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Ivan VA I just saw a part of text which I overlooked, probably because it contradicts to above emphasized text: Prema istraživanju u dokumentaciji BIA, obavljenom 26. maja 2009, ustanovili smo da je verodostojna verzija prema kojoj je general Mihailovi� zarobljen od strane grupe OZN-e za Srbiju uz „pomo�“ Nikole Kalabi�a.. This means that I was wrong when I said that there is an issue with source interpretation. I apologize to you and Pinki as well. Best regards.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:41, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2019 November newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Adam Cuerden (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 91 featured pictures, including 32 in the final round. Our finalists this year were:
- Adam Cuerden (submissions) with 964 points
- Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 899 points
- Casliber (submissions) with 817 points
- Kosack (submissions) with 691 points
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 388 points
- Enwebb (submissions) with 146 points
- Usernameunique (submissions) with 145 points
- HaEr48 (submissions) with 74 points
All those who reached the final will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field. Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!
- Casliber (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for a total of 7 FAs during the course of the competition.
- Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 14 GAs in round 5.
- Yashthepunisher (submissions) wins the featured list prize, for 4 FLs overall.
- Adam Cuerden (submissions) wins the featured picture prize, for 91 FPs overall.
- MPJ-DK (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 7 articles in good topics in round 2.
- Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 14 did you know articles in round 5.
- Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 7 in the news articles in round 1.
- Ed! (submissions) wins the reviewer prize, for 56 good article reviews in round 1.
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Why do you always change my edits?
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Deleted them? I just corrected them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutlovci (talk • contribs) 23:17, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Welcome to the 2020 WikiCup!
Happy New Year, Happy New Decade and Happy New WikiCup! The competition begins today and all article creators, expanders and improvers are welcome to take part. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. We are relaxing the rule that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2020 will count; now to be eligible for points in the competition, you must have completed significant work on the content at some time! Any questions on the rules or on anything else connected to the Cup should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Serbian Wikipedia
Hi, Antidiscriminator. I knew you were permanently blocked on the Serbian Wikipedia. However, I noticed that you are actively and correctly contributing here and I wanted to initiate the process of unblocking your account on sr.wiki. So I wonder, do you have the desire and the will to edit there? Best regards! --Zile (✉) 20:44, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Acamicamacaraca. Thank you for your message and desire to initiate the
process of unblocking
of my account. Yes, I would like to be able to edit sr.wiki. Will you please point to the link to the procedure at sr.wiki which describesprocess of unblocking
of someones account? All the best. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)- There is no precisely defined procedure :). I just wanted to start a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard to unblock your account. Greetings! --Zile (✉) 22:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, if there is no
process of unblocking
then your attempt to reach consensus to lift ban imposed to me might lead to your ban, like I was banned when I reached consensus of almost all uninvolved editors to lift Verlor's ban. I advise you not to push your luck. All the best. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 00:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)- Don't worry, everything will be fine. Verlor is the past and we should not look back. I'll start the discussion most probably tomorrow. I hope for the best. Best regards and happy holidays. --Zile (✉) 00:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, No. Especially not today. AFAIC, Verlor's and my ban are connected in circulus viciosus. I do not want my ban lifted without Verlor's ban lifted. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I would like to continue the conversation with you at Discord. It is much easier and faster to communicate. You can join here. Best regards! --Zile (✉) 03:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, I prefer public and transparent communication. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Antidiskriminator, I did a bit of digging and found out that Verlor abused multiple accounts and what not (while you did no such thing). I would firmly advice that you reconsider Aca's proposal. It seems both fair and rational. There are new admins on sr.wiki and it seems to me that they have a lot of good faith and energy. Those are the sort of people one can work with. cheers, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 16:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, I prefer public and transparent communication. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I would like to continue the conversation with you at Discord. It is much easier and faster to communicate. You can join here. Best regards! --Zile (✉) 03:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, No. Especially not today. AFAIC, Verlor's and my ban are connected in circulus viciosus. I do not want my ban lifted without Verlor's ban lifted. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Don't worry, everything will be fine. Verlor is the past and we should not look back. I'll start the discussion most probably tomorrow. I hope for the best. Best regards and happy holidays. --Zile (✉) 00:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Acamicamacaraca, if there is no
- There is no precisely defined procedure :). I just wanted to start a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard to unblock your account. Greetings! --Zile (✉) 22:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Sadko, No, you did not dig deep enough. If you were right about the situation being improved now, Verlor would already be unbanned. And me also, of course only after him. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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