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Nomination of We All Want Love for deletion

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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter

The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:

1. Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
2. Casliber (submissions) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
3. Czar (submissions) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
4. Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
5. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
6. 12george1 (submissions) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
7. Sturmvogel 66 (submissions), the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
8. Bloom6132 (submissions), the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. Matty.007 (submissions), ThaddeusB (submissions), WikiRedactor (submissions), Figureskatingfan (submissions), Yellow Evan (submissions), Prism (submissions) and Cloudz679 (submissions) have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

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He/she is doing that on Russian Roulette (song). It seems like Jazzerino. 183.171.169.38 (talk) 07:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 September newsletter

In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer Godot13 (submissions) has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion Cwmhiraeth (submissions) is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. Casliber (submissions), who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

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WikiCup 2014: The results

The 2014 WikiCup champion is Godot13 (submissions), who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. Casliber (submissions), WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

A full list of our prize-winners follows:

• Godot13 (submissions) wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
• Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
• Casliber (submissions) wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
• Czar (submissions) wins the prize for fourth place
• Sturmvogel 66 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• Bloom6132 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• 12george1 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
• ChrisGualtieri (submissions) wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
• Caponer (submissions) wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
• Sven Manguard (submissions) wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
• Figureskatingfan (submissions) wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
• ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.

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Think you'll enjoy

Intro and never attempted studio bridge. Lipped bridge and end whistles, but still quite an improvement :)--PeterGriffin • Talk2Me 06:36, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

OMG yes! Love that she did the opening! The whistles and bridge weren't lipped though :)  — ₳aron 10:28, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

and this one!!  — ₳aron 10:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

No I mean the whistle at the end of the bridge and the ones at the end :) Either way, I've always loved that intro and I've never heard her attempt the studio recording of the bridge. Looking forward to more little gems :) She also (one of the later Asian dates) did "My All" without the cop-out remix and owned it.--PeterGriffin • Talk2Me 17:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Fool in Love for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Fool in Love is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary

I saw your recent edit to Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary, I thought you examined all references with a fine tooth comb but I was proved wrong, the reference to included R&B came from this website http://www.sbindependent.org/unapologetic-rihanna-should-apologize/ and it stated this comment (see below in bold):

"It seems Rihanna tried too hard to challenge herself by straying away from the pop sound that made her famous. I respect her for thinking outside the proverbial box, but there are ways to step outside this box and still come up with good music. The album had moments of dark R&B (“Love Without a Tragedy”) seemed lost and lacked cohesion coming after a skanky, glorified strip-club anthem (“Pour it Out.”) To pay the songstress a compliment, I will say her recent ‘SNL’ performance was quite good and a remarkable change from her usual sloppy, one-note live performances. Plus, her references to ‘Seapunk’ and retro HTML graphics was visual euphoria. Rihanna, I love you for being the driven Barbados bombshell you are, but it’s time to give your fan base what they deserve – combustible clubby chart-toppers rather than dull, dark attempts at R&B."

Albeit it calls the song "Love Without a Tragedy" (I highly doubt we should argue over an extra letter or half a title, after all some people call "Vision of Love" "Visions of Love" or just shorten "We Ride (I See The Future) simply as "We Ride") the author is still referring to "Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary" and it should be included too.

Hope I have educated you and would love to hear from you regarding that matter. 81.153.184.105 (talk) 16:43, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Unreliable source for Starships (song) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.194.12.23 (talk) 17:30, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of A Million Miles Away (Rihanna song) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article A Million Miles Away (Rihanna song) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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"Disruptive" Editing.

Hi there, thank you very much for your feedback on my edits to Iggy Azalea's "Fancy". The reason for my re-addition of those charts into the articles is that I believe they are perfectly acceptable. Hot Rap Songs is *not* a subsidiary of the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart; songs such as Becky G's "Shower" and Fergie's "L.A. Love" and various Pitbull songs have charted on Hot Rap Songs but not on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. In the same way, the Dance/Mix Show Airplay chart in no way contributes to Hot Dance Club Songs chart; Dance Airplay is a component of the Hot 100 Airplay based on impressions as opposed to the Club chart's spins (it doesn't contribute to radio songs). I have referred to WP:USCHARTS and will follow this now on these articles, apologies for the inconvenience cause to you as I thought someone has been tampering to slim down the page, as opposed to correcting one's mistakes.

Thanks.

I understand what you are saying. I used to add all charts regardless, but I understand now that adding all of the component charts is not completely necessary and can make the table very long. [[WP:USCHARTS says you may add regardless of other chartings "Hot Rap Songs (entries before October 20, 2012)". Emphasis on the before October 20, 2012 may be included, not after. Feel free to add Hot Rap Songs to any article whereby the song has not charted on the Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs chart, or if a song has only charted on the 25 song Bubbling Under extension. If you feel that Dance Airplay has been wrongly listed as a component for the wrong chart and should be allowed to be included, raise it as a question on the talk page for the table of rules. Thanks.  — ₳aron 12:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Adele

Well, does she campaign on behalf of the party? Or is she known for her political influence? Is she an active member of Labour? Does she speak at any of their events? I've posted a question about this at WP:HELPDESK because this is unusual and I'd like clarification on whether or not it should be included. BTW, I did reply here, but looks like it didn't save. This is Paul (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) She has interviewed politicians and she endorsed Obama (for the wrong reasons, IMO). But Adele has in fact voiced her support for Labour but disagreed with their taxation policies. I don't really see why this parameter cannot be included, especially when the Infobox being used is a person one, which means that essentially anything can be added. If it was an Infobox singer one, like Leona Lewis, then obviously only music related parameters are to be included. To be honest, Adele is just a singer, so I don't see why the singer info box isn't being used for her, because she isn't someone who does other stuff, such as acting.  — ₳aron 22:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree on the infobox use. Although I don't think it's necessary to include it, I won't revert it again if you reinstate it. A couple of other examples. Gwyneth Paltrow recently endorsed Obama, but we have nothing for her. Cheryl Cole has also voiced support for the Labour Party. This is Paul (talk) 22:21, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I think that if people such as Gwyneth and Cheryl who has voiced who they support but not commented policies or publicly and financially supported them then perhaps not include it. But for other famous people who have spoken about policies etc and endorsed them, to include it? As it demonstrates an engagement with the politics of the party and their policies.  — ₳aron 22:25, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Seems a fair enough argument, I guess the information would be of use. It seems to be used inconsistently at the moment, but I think it would be worth opening a discussion on this in whatever the appropriate place would be. Perhaps on the infobox talk page, or at RFC or something. This is Paul (talk) 22:37, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, I don't know if it's the right place to do it, but I've opened a discussion at Template talk:Infobox person, so please feel free to add your thoughts on this. This is Paul (talk) 19:54, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

(←) Since two editors - This is Paul and myself - have already reverted your changes at Adele, and you are the only one who has actively supported the change, consensus is currently in favor of not including the field in the infobox and you should discuss at the template talk page as Paul has suggested. Furthermore, please watch what you mark as minor edits. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:21, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

And just to be clear: "I don't think it's necessary to include it, I won't revert it again if you reinstate it" does not equal support for your change. I stepped in and reverted it a second time. You made a bold edit, it was twice reverted, now you need to discuss. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:22, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

It was re-instated by Paul, he wouldn't have done so if he disagreed. And yes, I have been involved in a discussion, thank you very much. Goodbye.  — ₳aron 19:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Cheryl Cole#Rename request 4

Another page move is requested. You were previously involved, so I invite you. --George Ho (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...

Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.

• We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
• In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
• The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

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WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter

Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

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Rihanna biography

I really think we should actively start working on her biography page. I propose we start a sandbox, then GA, then FA ;) of course... Right now it's kind of a mess. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 14:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Yeah can do, seems a good idea :)  — ₳aron 20:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

List of artists with the most number ones on the U.S. dance chart

Just letting you know I've reviewed and approved of the hook for its DYK. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Personal attacks and incivility

You are taking any disagreements you and I may have had in the past way too personally. In any case, remarks such as "Even a primate would be able..." are personal attacks. So are several of the comments in this spiel about how I'm supposedly like a child with no common sense or intelligence. You need to stop with the incivility and personal attacks immediately before you end up blocked. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

No, all what I said in my rather eloquently written essay was the truth. I just happen to have the balls to say what countless other editors have said to me about you, to you. You have created such bad feeling amongst editors, and we feel like you have been on a deletion and reversion rampage on Rihanna Wikiproject. Can you not see that? You surely do because you halted your mass deletion plans of Rihanna articles las year once you released that no one was batting in your deletion corner on the first 4 or 5 nominations, and everyone was voting to keep them. I can't help how you interpreted my comments; I never directly called you anything negative or mentioned you name in relation to the primate comment. If you wasn't wrong or guilty, you wouldn't have interpreted the comments as being about you. I haven't personally attacked anyone. I haven't called anyone any names or been uncivil. It's not me who proposes mass deletion; it's not me who has a problem with the Rihanna Wikiproject, its articles and the editors who edit them; it's not me who crosses the 3RR revert rule (If you had of read my report of you correctly, I said the one on the Sunday was outside of the 24 period, but is still recent. The other three, however, were in less than 23 hours); it's not me who edit wars. So I don't see what I could possibly be blocked for. I think it's extremely uncivil of you to imply that I purposely set out to "pushed you over the 3RR"; I can't make you do that, only you can press your revert button. (Yes, you did violate it). You should think yourself lucky that you didn't get blocked for breaking the 3RR rule, it was very lenient of the administrator who only lock the article in dispute. Tomica was unquestionably in the wrong for making 5 reverts on an articles in 24 hour period (you were no better by reverting instead of discussing, which is another thing that rubs people up the wrong way), and he has been blocked for 2 days because of it. So you should be thankful that you got off with not even a slap on the wrist from an admin.  — ₳aron 22:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

You need to drop the Rihanna AfDs. I moved on and focused on other areas because I didn't feel like devoting all my time to that; that doesn't mean I "halted" it or gave up entirely, I might bring some of those back later. And it is not a personal vendetta against the Rihanna project or any of its editors; if you feel like that, that's your problem. And I don't know where you're coming from saying I reverted instead of discussing, seeing as I actually launched the talk page discussion while you posted a long essay filled with personal attacks and uncivilly instructed me not to respond to you. That's not having "balls"; that's just being immature and violating Wikipedia policies/guidelines. You should consider yourself lucky that you haven't been blocked for such behavior yet.

Further, I don't care that a small group of editors may have a problem with me because they're holding a grudge over a deletion discussion that happened awhile ago. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to build an encyclopedia. This isn't high school. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

No, I won't drop it. It was a hugely disrespectful thing to do and you was completely out of order, and you have not once apologized. You didn't drop it to devote your time to other areas. You seemed pretty devoted in the beginning by listing 20 articles that you planned on nominating for deletion. You dropped it because they weren't getting deleted and you was embarrassing yourself. I can only imagine how you would kick off if I nominated 20 articles for deletions which passed criteria for a Wikiproject that you are heavily involved in and spent a lot of time on. I'd actually have some respect for you if you just admitted that fact. It is 100% an attack by you on the Rihanna Wikiproject, because you don't do it any others. You haven't proposed mass deletion for other Wikiprojects. I haven't acted in any such way to be considered for being blocked, but you have. Just because you clearly don't like that you yourself are not liked by a lot of editors because of your actions, it doesn't make me immature for saying so. You're here to build any encyclopedia? That's funny, because from what I have seen from your contributions, you're trying your very best destroy it in my eyes. Deletions, reversions, edit wars, WP:OWN issues, not assuming WP:GOODFAITH. You're obviously someone who doesn't like being told that you are wrong. You need to get some humility fast and take responsibility for your actions. If you starting treating Wikipedia and editors with respect, civility and humility and don't cause bad feeling, then problems like on "FourFiveSeconds" should hopefully not arise again.  — ₳aron 09:48, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Again, if you view it as a personal attack, that's a sign that you're way too emotionally vested in this project. I can't help that you take any editorial process that isn't in your favor to heart. I have nothing to apologize for. You're the one with bad faith and OWN issues, not me. Say what you want about my edits, but I won't tolerate personal remarks any longer. So do it again and face the consequences. I don't have to deal with the immaturity, and I won't. –Chase (talk / contribs) 15:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

It is an attack. And yes, the Wikiproject has spent years editing those articles. We have invested a lot of time and energy into them to make the Rihanna scope better. Everything you're accusing me is what you're guilty of. I'm not the one who you was warring with on FourFiveSeconds and refusing to let anyone change one word; it was you who kept reverting multiple editors. I haven't really had anything to do with the article at all, so it's laughable that you're saying I have OWN issues. You're saying you won't tolerate personal remarks, not that I've made any against you (Never said "you" or you're name), but you clearly think it's acceptable to threaten me saying that I should face the consequences for something I haven't done, whether it be past or future. And you calling me immature...  — ₳aron 17:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Rihanna's

Voice has really improved a lot. Her vocal "artistry" is starting to somewhat exist lol.--PeterGriffin • Talk2Me 05:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I'd love to be a vocal producer on a song of hers.  — ₳aron 10:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Petergriffin9901: Too bad your fave "voice artistry" is starting to flop hard. lol — Tomíca^(T2ME) 10:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Tomica: Lol. Bro, you need to grow up and get a life. Man up already.--PeterGriffin • Talk2Me 04:33, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@Petergriffin9901: I bet I have much more life than you. lol — Tomíca^(T2ME) 08:21, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

Why do you believe that removing the emphasis of "even" introduces bias? It's placing emphasis on the "before", suggesting that it needs particularly drawn attention to. This suggests a negative an opinion of her actions. Compare;

• Carey asked for money before she signed a contract.
• Carey asked for money even before she signed a contract.

--Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 13:04, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

You don't need to say "Before even signing", "before signing" is enough. It implies that it is an unreasonable demand and that it sounds like a fan writing it, and we don't even know if this is true or not. You don't need to reinforce that it's before when using 'before', it pretty obvious already that it's before. (She's worth $500 million, I doubt she would ask for an advance of $3 million).  — ₳aron 16:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Please take the time to read comment above. I, and the previous editor, removed the "even". Your revert is putting it back in. Could you revert your change, please. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 17:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Top 10 artists with the most number-ones on the U.S. Hot 100 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Top 10 artists with the most number-ones on the U.S. Hot 100 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top 10 artists with the most number-ones on the U.S. Hot 100 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Towards the Sun (song)

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter

One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1

That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader Freikorp (submissions) owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as Godot13 (submissions) had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:

• Cwmhiraeth (submissions) took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
• AHeneen (submissions) worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
• Rodw (submissions) developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
• And last but not least, Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points) worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

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Re: So Help Me God

I didn't do anything about the reverts because I don't think the article should have been redirected. I was simply suggesting that, if something must be done, simply redirect instead of deleting. In my opinion, there is no point to deleting pages that serve a purpose, including redirects. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:30, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Then what on earth was your excuse for leaving the comment on the CSD that I should have redirected for!!!!!!!!! Seriously, make your mind up! I tried redirecting twice, one time of which you reverted, then afterwards you tell me that should have redirected instead of nominating for deletion! The article had no relevance or content what-so-ever. It had 3 sources and the rumoured tracks were not confirmed. And no release date. It completely failed the criteria for an album article. You're being very patronising and assuming bad faith.  — ₳aron 17:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue about this. In my opinion, Redirect > Deletion, plain and simple. I have no further comment on the matter. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:03, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Well of course you're not doing to argue about it. You know I'm right and I've highlighted your wrong-doing. It would be helpful if you actually stuck to your own advice instead of messing about with other people and then backtracking. The right thing to do would have been to say to me: "I'm sorry, I am in the wrong here." But no...  — ₳aron 18:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Notability (music)

I have made a proposal for a change to the opening paragraph of Wikipedia:Notability (music). You have discussed similar issues on the article's talk page and would appreciate your input. Please see Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)#Do all of these guidelines imply GNG or are they stand-alone?. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not following what this is about? Can you give it to me in a nutshell  — ₳aron 18:20, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Cheek to Cheek

Cut the incivility in edit summaries like these. I'm not following the GAN, I just happened to see that. Do remember that I'm a member of the Gaga project so I tend to watch these articles. I really couldn't give two shits that you're reviewing it. If you're going to continue to leave rude remarks any time we cross paths, I may seek out an interaction ban because your attitude is making it difficult to collaborate. –Chase (talk / contribs) 22:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't want you to interact with me. It's always you interacting with me. It's always you interfering with my editing. It's always you nominating articles for deletion that I've worked on. You don't think I'm being civil, but neither are you. I'm pissed off with dealing with all the shit you throw at me, other editors and the Rihanna Wikiproject all the time. I never involve myself with things you do on here, but you always involve yourself in things I do and go against me every single time. I made a suggestion on the GAN, the nominator agreed and changed it, then you revert it and show no regard for the fact that I am reviewing it and that the nominator agreed. You should have just left a comment with your opinion/suggestion, not just implementing it without discussion. I am formally asking you to not interact with me or involve yourself with anything that I am doing. And I don't want you to post on my talk page again. Stay out of my activities and edits, and there won't be any need for confrontation. I don't need to say that I will stay out of your way, because I purposely stay out of it anyway. Unless you can start to be constructive, considerate and nice, and discuss things first, and not rub people up the wrong way by coming in like a bulldozer, then I don't want to ever have communication with you again.  — ₳aron 00:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Peppered Moth

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DYK for Manuel Erotikos Komnenos

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ITN Cyclone Pam

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DYK for FourFiveSeconds

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DYK for Artists with the most number-ones on the U.S. Hot 100

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DYK for Cyclone Honorinina

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Enthiran/archive2

I have opened the 2nd PR as the article's first FAC was withdrawn recently due to MoS and few prose issues. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 13:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Rwandan Revolution

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome! And some discussion of the Leah Roberts article

Thanks for the barnstar. As you can probably see it's not like I'm hurting for them, but I still appreciate every new one just the same.

As to the article ... it's certainly been a well-known missing persons case these 15 years, since it originally happened, probably because of the cross-country road trip angle. These unsolved-mystery articles have become sort of a sideline of mine since I got Disappearance of Rebecca Coriam to DYK on the one-year anniversary back in 2012; it's still my all-time high for single-day DYK views of any article I've researched and written. Earlier this year I was gunning for Death of Elisa Lam to get on the main page on the second anniversary of the day her body was found; it didn't make it on that date exactly but I'm still proud of the article (especially since it's the top Google hit on a frequently-searched subject, so it needs to be comprehensive and accurate to the best of our ability to make it so). During that time I was looking at other unsolved-death and disappearance stories for possible anniversary DYKs when I realized Leah's was coming up in March, and it would be the 15th anniversary, yet. So I started it, ironically enough, on the Elisa Lam anniversary. Looks like it worked ... it seems from the editing that it's getting a lot of views. And, who knows, maybe someone could be jogged enough by it to phone in the right tip to the Whatcom County Sheriff's Office.

As for taking it to GA ... I suppose I should. Certainly it's got enough. I just wiah that there had been more in the way of longer sources to draw from ... in many of these other cases, including one I'm thinking of for a five-year anniversary late this summer that's got some equally interesting wrinkles to it, there's at least one or two longform in-depth reliable-source articles to draw from (like Disappearance of Maura Murray, which has several of those sources that we haven't tapped, and has been a really interesting ongoing story that hasn't stopped with her disappearance 12 years ago (and a few weeks in change). That could, if properly developed, have FA potential (so far Disappearance of Natalee Holloway is the only disappearance-of story to have made FA and gotten on the Main Page (on what would have been her 22nd birthday, not the anniversary date). And it doesn't turn 15 until 2019, so there's a lot of time to develop it). But the Leah Roberts case has only that Disappeared episode.

I have thought of getting in touch with the Whatcom detectives to at least get some idea where her car was found, so we can add some coordinates to the article (again, like Maura Murray, who also left behind an abandoned vehicle, the coordinates of which we have at the top of the article). And, who knows, maybe they have some other information we can use as sources (primary sources, to be sure, but sources). I've heard the first article on the Jeep find in The Bellingham Herald has a lot more detail on what they found, detail which more strongly suggests foul play, detail which hasn't been widely re-reported since because the paper doesn't keep a lot of its old articles online. Maybe it would be possible to get that, and add it to the article. Daniel Case (talk) 21:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah you should take them further. They are so interesting to read despite being quite sad.  — ₳aron 21:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Did you see how many views it got? WOW! That's far and away the leading DYK hook for the month (and without a picture, yet!). It's my second-best ever, after Rebecca Coriam.

Why do these get so much attention? Missing white woman syndrome, maybe? Daniel Case (talk) 01:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Is that seriously a concept that even exists? I'm shocked.  — ₳aron 09:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Good article review

Hello, I made some changes to the article you are reviewing. Is there anything else which needs to be done?CurtisNaito (talk) 22:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Never Too Far

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:03, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cheek to Cheek (album)

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DYK for Prisoners of the Sun

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Sesame Street FLC

Hi, a couple of weeks ago you reviewed List of Sesame Street Muppets for FLC. I addressed your issues, so would you mind going back and looking at them? And then possibly changing your oppose to a support? No pressure, of course! ;) Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:25, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Duh, I wrote this before I noticed that you had added another piece of feedback. Which I've now addressed. As far as the above is concerned: "Never mind!"

Death of Benito Mussolini GA

Thanks very much for doing the review and the comments - and enjoy your trip to Switzerland! (If you do go to any of the sites, maybe look out for any pics that could be added to the article!) DeCausa (talk) 13:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. I usually only edit, improve and review album and song articles but I've been reviewing history ones recently because I'm really interested in history. It took me ages to find the street name of the execution place but I did find it! So I would really like to visit this location. Do you live in Europe?  — ₳aron 13:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

yes - UK. It's a beautiful area where it all happened. Shortly after the war Churchill went on a "painting holiday" in the area (he was quite a good amateur). The rumour was he believed that Mussolini had hidden the alleged "secret agreements" before he was shot and Churchill was searching for them. Could be interesting to retrace his steps! DeCausa (talk) 13:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

You should go :) Are you particularly interested in WW2 history?  — ₳aron 13:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm interested in history generally, but not especially WW2. Like most of my editing, it came out of wanting to look something up about it and found it missing. DeCausa (talk) 13:38, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Cool. You should do Benito Mussolini!  — ₳aron 13:39, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for List of songs recorded by Ariana Grande

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DYK for 1986 Giro d'Italia

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DYK nomination of Andrew II of Hungary

Hello! Your submission of Andrew II of Hungary at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Andrew D. (talk) 13:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Nuremberg Laws

Hi Calvin999. Just a reminder that you signed up to do the GA review of Nuremberg Laws. I hope we can get started soon! -- Diannaa (talk) 01:12, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, I know. I haven't forgotten.  — ₳aron 08:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Caligari

Thanks for taking on the review! I look forward to working with you on any comments or suggestions that you have. — Hunter Kahn 20:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Cool. I studied this film during my BA.  — ₳aron 21:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

• I plan to bring it to FA eventually. — Hunter Kahn 23:45, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

• Cool. It's a great film. I have access to quite a lot of info which could be helpful then?  — ₳aron 09:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Yeah, absolutely. I think it currently covers all the broad topics and is GA-ready now, but I'm pursuing a few other sources that I'll be adding once I start working it up to FA status. If you can let me know of any sources you have that aren't already currently used as references, that would be terrific! — Hunter Kahn 17:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Brewster Hazelton

The DYK project (nominate) 12:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

List of Adolf Hitler's adjutants

Me and Kierzek have agreed the list can now be re-nominated for FL-status, but would like your final touches on it before doing so. Would mean a lot. Cheers, Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 14:39, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay I will go through it again  — ₳aron 15:48, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Flynn Rider

Allen3 ^talk 00:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Lapu-Lapu/GA1

Aaron, I thought you should know that Luvcookies, who made the GAN nomination of this article along with 17 others, has just been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet.

I had previously reversed the other 17 nominations, since it was clear Luvcookies was unclear on what made a GA; indeed, the user had tried to nominate 3 of the 17 for FAC (simultaneously, along with a previously listed GA) before being shot down there.

Unless you have a strong desire to proceed with the review at once, I plan to reverse the nomination within the next day, which would include deleting the orphaned review page linked above. Please let me know know what you'd like to do. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:45, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay I will go through it today.  — ₳aron 11:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Caligari

Hey man. Do you still plan to review The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari? I don't mean to rush you, I just wanted to check. :) — Hunter Kahn 13:25, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I haven't been well this week and I am currently away until Monday as per my tag at the top of my talk. Thanks.  — ₳aron 15:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• Sorry, I had missed that. — Hunter Kahn 18:38, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

That's okay. No need to apologise. I will do it early next week hopefully.  — ₳aron 18:39, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 1000 Forms of Fear

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DYK for Mayabazar

Thanks for your help with this project Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

{{Maintained}} deleted

Hope you had a nice vacation (looks like you did!). You may be interested to know that, as you return, the TfD for the "maintained" template, to which you added a strongly-worded and much-appreciated keep, has nonetheless been closed as a delete, for what seems to be very superficial reason. A discussion has begun on the closing admin's talk page already if you wish to take part. Daniel Case (talk) 04:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

File:Chocolate-Easter-Bunny.jpg

All the best! "Carry me down, carry me down; carry me down into the wiki!" (talk) 04:37, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you :)  — ₳aron 12:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)