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Cite a valid reason for reverting my edit

Which policy of Wiki edits bars an editor from editing another user's page? Justify your action. Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Does it have to be a "policy"? See WP:UOWN. It is generally considered uncouth to manipulate another editor's user page unless there's a significant reason to do so, or if you have a friendly relationship with them such that you don't think they'd mind. In this case, manipulating the user page of an indefinitely blocked editor doesn't have any real purpose, nor does it further Wikipedia's goals. You might also want to read WP:NOTHERE, since we are ostensibly here to build an encyclopedia, not to futz around with other people's user pages. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Here is an excerpt from the WP:OWN -"Traditionally, Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. However, pages in user space belong to the wider community. They are not a personal homepage, and do not belong to the user." Wikipedia unequivocally allows editing of fellow users' pages and applies same editing rules which govern the encyclopedia articles. Where does the notion "it is generally considered uncouth" come from? There was nothing uncouth about the edits I had made as I'd just merely expanded an existing section which encompassed the list of pages she'd edited. I did not find violation of any clause of WP:NOTHERE. I want to challenge your revert. Please guide me on how to register a protest against this revert to other admins. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk • contribs)

(talk page watcher) comment to Ihaveabandonedmychild: WP:UOWN also states by convention others will not usually edit your user page itself, other than (rarely) to address significant concerns or place project-related tags and In general, one should avoid substantially editing another's user and user talk pages, except when it is likely edits are expected and/or will be helpful. Because you are new, you wouldn't know that making edits to another editor's user page is generally unacceptable. Cyphoidbomb has explained the reason for the revert above. Please be aware that the rest of the editing community agrees with that explanation, and protesting the revert would not accomplish anything. If you were to pursue arguing about that revert instead of reading and accepting the explanation, it would be more likely that other editors would question your competence to adjust to Wikipedia norms. I suggest that you accept that we don't edit other editors' user pages and instead focus your energies on improving the encyclopedia. Schazjmd (talk) 15:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Vaibhav Edke Page

Hello

Vaibhav edke page is rejected several times now i want to delete that article and again work on it please help me how i can do this Publicspeaker2020 (talk) 18:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

@Publicspeaker2020: Why would you want to delete it? When editors request draft deletion, it's usually because they're trying to hide the fact that the draft has been declined or rejected. If, after six declines you couldn't prove that the subject is notable, deleting the article and starting anew isn't going to help. You should probably consider this a fruitless pursuit, especially since it was finally rejected, meaning it will not be considered any further. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Means i can not publish this page ever ? Actually this page was created when i was new to Wikipedia I dont have enough knowledge at that time so it happenes. Can I publish this page after 6 months ? Publicspeaker2020 (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

@Publicspeaker2020: The article fails to demonstrate that the subject meets our general notability guideline. Time alone isn't likely to make the subject any more notable. Also, if you know this person, or are this person, or are somehow related to this person, you shouldn't be editing articles about him, because you would have an inherent conflict of interest. If you do have such a conflict, you should declare that on your user page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Image

can I upload Vani Bhojan images in Vani Bhojan career? Only one image. Sir Eswnav (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, that depends, Eswnav—Have you ever had an account before at Wikipedia, and was that account previously blocked for disruptive editing? I advise you to tell the truth. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes! Cyphoidbomb Eswnav (talk) 04:53, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@Eswnav: I applaud your honesty, but I don't think your answer is clear. What previous account did you have, and why are you evading your block? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

70.66.84.119

Can user:70.66.84.119 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@CLCStudent:  Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:08, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

A Request

I have seen your valuable comments in the AfD discussion. Would like to request you to spare some time if you feel like commenting here as well. ☆★Mamushir (✉✉) 00:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Saaho

Some IP from Telangana keeps on reinstating unreliable BO figures sourced from Sacnilk.com despite 2 reverts with proper explanations in edit summaries as well as a level-4 warning. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Looks like Materialscientist got the IP. If it flares up again, let me know and I'll semi-protect. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah sure. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding a doubt

Do you take verified twitter pages for citation? Emmanuel joseph369 (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Emmanuel joseph369: Depends on what the content is. If it's a potentially contentious statement, then no, as it would almost always be a primary source, whereas we typically want independent secondary sources. But if it's something uncontroversial, like a verified Twitter account for Colors TV announcing the air date of an upcoming series, that's typically fine. By the way, regarding this, you should be aware that the finances surrounding films of Mammootty and Mohanlal are persistently problematic, since the figures almost always come from their production companies. This is relevant, because like I said above, we shouldn't be using primary sources for contentious information, and a production company's grandiose claim about how much money they made, would be contentious. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:36, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Honeyintruder888

Is it time to take some intervention with Honeyintruder888 (talk, contribs)? Their persistent unsourced edits are growing tedious to review and revert. You've warned them a few times as have I, but it has not done much to change their behavior. What do you recommend as the best path forward? – 108.56.139.120 (talk) 21:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced actor roles are a difficult area. I tend to assume good faith that the editor has seen the film and can attest to the character's name. A primary source can be used for uncontroversial content, like plot and cast lists. So I, myself, wouldn't push too hard in this area, unless there was a reason to think they were lying about something. I have virtually no access to 1983 Malayalam films, and even if I did, I don't speak Malayalam, so I couldn't personally verify the content. Although there is a further complication that Indian films are very inconsistent about including proper credits, but that's a systemic problem I have no influence over. So, my instinct is to give them some leeway. Where I have greater issue, is when they're adding difficult-to-source content that is also indiscriminate, like dubbing tables. If an Indian film isn't likely to reliably list every person who worked on a film, it's far less likely that someone will have received dubbing credits. But on top of that, why do we care about dub work? Anyhow, my hope is to try reasoning with them, but editors who are also notoriously silent and who refuse to adhere to community norms tend to alienate themselves over time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Please help me

User talk:BubblySnow is just giving me warning. Can you please tell that can we change episode count before its aired on tv. He always change episode count before its aired on tv and saying i am doing disruptive editing by reverting his edit. He also gave warning that i will blocked. Can you do something. Jenifree (talk) 08:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing in Kaatelal & Sons

Sir, the editor Vijaykrsrivastava is again causing disruptive editing in Cast & Characters section of Kaatelal & Sons. Here is the diff [1]. The editor is removing chunks of character description under minor edit. I have already warned once again the editor, but can there be done anything else to stop the disruptive editing? --Aleyamma38 (talk) 11:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Warned him in tandem with your warning. That is sufficient for the time being. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Thanks a million Sir! --Aleyamma38 (talk) 12:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Late as a prefix before names of dead people

Sir, could you guide me to the policy as per which we do not write "late" before the names of dead people? Some IP is quite persistent in adding it in Ramya Krishnan article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I don't know if there is one, TBH. I feel like I asked about this a few years back, maybe as I thought it pertained to MOS:HONORIFIC, but I don't know that I ever got a clear response. It may not actually be problematic since it could plainly describe a dead person, but I can also see people going overboard with it. I'm going to ask at MOS:BIO. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I posted the link in the MOS:BIO talk page. Looks like the majority are in favour of not having it in the article but since a few believed it to depend on the context. The IP wouldn't let go of it [2]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Need Help

Hi,

I recently created Rrahul Sudhir page which you had cleaned up as well. However, that page somehow does not appear in Google searches. Is there anything that I need to do additionally so that the page gets indexed?

Thanks & Regards, (Panchalidraupadi (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2020 (UTC))

@Panchalidraupadi: I'm not aware of anything that one can do to facilitate this. Sorry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Np :)

(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC))

@Panchalidraupadi: It will take some time to establish .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 09:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

The main problem is that "Tag". .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 09:38, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@245CMR: Thanks. The page has got indexed now. :)

(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC))

@245CMR: Hey,

Can you please tell me how to add pics and what are the rules? I want to add a photo in Rrahul Sudhir's page.

(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 08:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC))

@Panchalidraupadi: I appreciate that you're asking before doing this. Image uploading always kind of freaks me out because I don't want to accidentally violate a copyright, you know? All creative content (photos, albums, books, movies, scripts, stories, even marketing copy) is copyrighted the moment it is published. We are allowed to use small excerpts of these materials under Fair Use if we are careful. If you find a suitable image, the ideal would be to extract only the portion you need to identify the subject (see Brad Pitt for the rough idea, i.e. a portrait) and the resolution should not be very high. See WP:IMAGERES, which has a formula. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a good image on Flickr that is licensed to the Creative Commons in exchange for attribution, but I'd be careful, because sometimes people upload copyrighted photos. Hope that helps. Definitely read WP:NFCC before you proceed. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Bttowadch is back

You might want to check this. Steve M (talk) 20:00, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@Steve M: Thanks for the tip. Blocked. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, is it possible to close the SPI report on that user in the Bttowadch SPI? Steve M (talk) 03:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@Steve M: Didn't know it was open. Thanks for the info. Closed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, if you're still up for whack-a-mole, see Special:Contributions/111.88.17.99. Ravensfire (talk) 20:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism by user

Hi I need help there is this user User:Fa8479 is keep adding untrue information in Bigg Boss (Hindi season 14) adding fake evictions and adding the winner when the season has not finished yet. Many users have warned him to not do that and every time his edits get reverted he does the same thing. It is probably a fan by Rubina Dilaik is doing this. I even asked him on his talk page to not do it but he removed it. Please could you block him. You can look in Bigg Boss 14 history for evidence TracyBeker0910 (talk) 08:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Now he is deleting the comments here please do something TracyBeker0910 (talk) 13:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@TracyBeker0910: The editor is allowed to remove comments from their own talk page. They cannot, however, remove your comment from my talk page. Their editing privileges have been suspended, since it doesn't look like they're here to build an encyclopedia. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

I understand he has removed the block message from his talk page as well and thanks for doing that TracyBeker0910 (talk) 18:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@TracyBeker0910: Yeah, he can remove the notice. It doesn't bother me. You're welcome. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

B.Bhargava Teja files

I just opened a CCI on this user (Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210128), their talk page history is pretty messy so I'll just ask here if you remember if their violations extended to their file uploads? Thanks, Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI help} 04:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Moneytrees: Hey there, so sorry, but I can't recall offhand. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Sir please see this page and also this this both article names are almost same. I think it's not allowed so please take action on it. Hyderabadi Wikipedian (talk) 04:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hyderabadi Wikipedian: I opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you sir! 🙂 Hyderabadi Wikipedian (talk) 13:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Shrenu Parikh

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb this user User:RYLELT7 is keep adding the channels back in Shrenu Parikh and is not listening to anything as I said look in WP:Filmography please could you block her or him. She has also been very rude to other users and even you as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:41:2AA:99C2:573E:D55B:9F1E (talk) 11:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Anon, smh. (He). I have never been rude to any editors and neither have I been rude to Cyphoid. Since you are accusing me of being rude, you might as well provide me with redirects where I have been rude, because that is a big accusation to label someone rude, especially when it is preceded by "block them". You seem to attack me and that fundamentally violets one Wikipedia's core guidelines, refer to WP:AVOIDYOU. You have requested users to "permanently ban" me for participating in a discussion in which Wikipedia itself (the cite you're on) encourages you to get involved, and now again you want me blocked? What am I doing wrong here? Because I cannot understand what I did wrong that you desperately need me blocked. Refer to WP:WHYBLOCK. Have a wonderful day/night, anon. RYLELT7 (talk) 03:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Spam

I am seeing this user: Sohil mn spamming or advertising in external links of many articles by adding his website link, the diffs are diff 1 diff 2 diff 3 diff 4. See his userpage he himself is saying that Mashvo is his website. Take action on him. Hyderabadi Wikipedian (talk) 07:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hyderabadi Wikipedian: User blocked for spamming. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding image

User:Cyphoidbomb i want to know how to add image without copyright violation. I even provide the appropriate source than also i get copyright violation. Please can you help me from where, how do i upload image without copyright violation. Jenifree (talk) 11:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jenifree: I wouldn't recommend it for new users, as you are almost certainly going to accidentally commit a copyright violation. I don't even like to upload images myself because I'm always worried I'll mess something up. But if you want to proceed, read WP:NFCC and familiarise yourself with our copyright policy.

It can be tricky to identify the copyright holder of an image. Usually a person who takes a photo is the copyright holder. So if you find an image on Times of India or something, that doesn't mean they own the copyright. If you can identify the copyright holder of an image, for instance Colors TV is likely the copyright holder of a title card of one of its series, you would have to attribute them when you upload the image, and clearly indicate that it is a non-free image. Also, before you upload it, you need to reduce the file to a much lower-resolution. One of the ways we can use copyrighted images is under "fair use" exemption, but fair use requires us to only use the portion of the image that we need, (for instance if we only need an image of one person in an image, don't use the entire image) and that we reduce the size of the image. So instead of using a 2000x2000 pixel image of a person's face, we reduce the size to the point where we can identify the subject without necessarily being able to analyse their pores. There is a formula in one of the documents above. Good luck. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion

You should edit Oswald's article by adding information from this Anime Superhero thread where they reveal that Oswald's return to Disney was a sham and the character had no copyright or trademark registration outside of Japan. (I discovered this myself on trademark registration websites) and that the copyright of Trolley Troubles expired in 1956: https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/exposed-disneys-repurchase-of-oswald-the-rabbit-a-sham.4792291/ Even an animation historian involved with the Walt Disney Treasures - The Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit DVD confirmed in the threat that the character is in public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.86.96.88 (talk) 20:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, well, the first thing I would point out is that civilisation currently has a problem with people believing everything they read in blogs and discussion forums, and that's how we wind up with people turning blue from drinking collodial silver, and idiots obsessed with baseless, crackpot QAnon conspiracy theories. So, my instinct is not to accept as gospel whatever this random netizen is trying to sell us about their expertise in US Copyright law. That's just my personal take. As it pertains to Wikipedia, this is exactly the thing that should not be included in the article, since we only care what reliable published sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy would have to say about anything, and 88Fingers on the animesuperhero.com forum isn't quite the same as a reputable journalist from The Telegraph, or The Washington Post, who might have the financial resources to actually ask a working copyright lawyer what they think. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi , I am a new user can you please tell me how to upload an image? User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2 (talk) 14:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2: I wouldn't recommend it for new users, as you are almost certainly going to accidentally commit a copyright violation. Read WP:NFCC, then you'll have to wait until you are autoconfirmed. And again, I would not recommend doing it unless you are very familiar with our copyright policy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I followed your instructions and read a few articles on how to upload images and uploaded an image . User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2 (talk) 14:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2: You seem to have missed the part where the policy says you have to use a low-resolution image, not a high-resolution one. See also WP:NFC, which has a formula for determining appropriate resoluation. See, I told you it was tricky and that I didn't recommend it for new users. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Continuing discussion

This is regarding your edit on Keerthy Suresh page and the ongoing dispute on inclusion of a statement containing word "glamarous' that is "arguably "decipherable to only a limited segment of demography,as per you . "Glamorous" is not a colloquial word as far as Indian English is concerned, as it is common in articles that are rather formal. I can furnish few references to some articles if you wish. It is also quite common in Wikipedia biography articles and it is perfectly used in the similar context as I had ussed in Keerthy Suresh's article. See the search results. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Glamorous+roles&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1&ns0=1 If you could scan through the results you would spot few non-Indian names in the list

This word has been used in biography of two  non-Indian Hollywood actresses and, of course,in countless articles relating to Indian actresses. This further strengthens my argument that it can be incorporated in the context I used without compromise of any editing rule

I am not sure how do you decide what word or phrase is colloquial and what is not but there should be an objective measure to decide that. Your argument further weakens if we consider the meaning of word Glamour in Photography that has similar meanings to the same word's usage in Indian movie context. If you still think you have good reasons to not allow the requested change, please substantiate your position. Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 20:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

See my last comment at Talk:Keerthy Suresh from 20 January. Also see WP:NOTHERE. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't see how WP:NOTHERE is applicable here. Can you clarify? The last discussion does not matter as we have evidences that statement "X does or doesn't do glamorous roles" are acceptable statements in Wiki biography Also you did not even answer why glamorous is not allowed even though it is allowed in other biography articles in the same context. There were three objections to my edit

1) Sources are grapevine and can't be considered authentic 2) The content does not belong to lede 3) The word glamorous is not acceptable by Wiki standards(but apparently it is allowed). First two objection can be addressed by adding content to career section with right source. The last objection is something you are obdurate about and do not see to give a valid reason why that word is not Wiki worthy. Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 04:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

In case you feel you were wrong, shall I add the statement back to Keerthy Suresh page? Or would you object. I don't want to add it back without seeking clarification. Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

See my last comment at Talk:Keerthy Suresh from 20 January. Also see WP:NOTHERE. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure what is your intent behind tagging WP:NOTHERE. I have read the article and understand it

Saw your last comment on that page and it is moot. It is no more gossip if it is coming straight from the horse's mouth.
See the link below. If you still think it is not something to be included in a biography article, please give a solid reason.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/tamil/2016/oct/12/glamorous-roles-are-beyond-my-comfort-zone-1527058.amp

Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 06:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC) Please read following excerpt from WP:Here "Expressing unpopular opinions – even extremely unpopular opinions – in a non-disruptive manner Merely advocating and implementing changes to Wikipedia articles or policies with reliable sources is allowed and even if these changes made are incompatible with certain Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, it is not the same as not being here to build an encyclopedia. The disagreeing editor should take care to not violate Wikipedia policies and guidelines such as not reverting due to a lack of consensus, getting the point, and civility in the course of challenging unpopular opinions"

Please tell if it can be included in Keerthy Suresh as I have given a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk • contribs) 06:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't know why you think my talk page is the place to continue a discussion that exists at Talk:Keerthy Suresh. If you choose to continue it there, please make sure your comments are indented properly, as the above is very difficult to follow. See WP:TPG. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry. I thought it is a good idea to start discussion here as you regularly patrol Keerthy Suresh and also had raised objection to the edit I am trying to justify. We can close this thread here but would want you to explain your current standpoint. Please follow the discussion at Keerthy's talk page. Ihaveabandonedmychild (talk) 15:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

SpongeBob99Swell

Hi, hope you're doing well. I've been continually having issues with SpongeBob99Swell, who is repeatedly making disruptive edits to bring the plot summary for Scoob! over the WP:FILMPLOT guideline of 400-700 words. They seem to be displaying WP:OWN mentality and continuously revert any edit that changes their wording in any way, despite that their wording adds a ridiculous amount of extra detail (i.e. "small, scary, hostile scorpion-esque robots called Rottens"). I've attempted to talk to them several times by pointing this out on their talk page, but they refuse to communicate. The user has continually made these edits making the summary overly wordy since August. Back in January, I posted a message on their talk page and it appeared they finally listened when I trimmed the summary down to 600 words, but on Tuesday, they sneakily reverted this again and added back some of their original over-wordy edits. Not sure if you feel that this is something worth pursuing, but in my opinion this user has displayed an astonishing lack of communication and collaboration, so I thought I'd bring your attention to it. There's also plenty more examples of them doing things like this in the edit history for the article. Thanks, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 22:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@KatnissEverdeen: Hi there, happy new year! Your example above reminds me of a disruptive editor from Gaithersburg, Maryland, US circa 2015+ who was obsessed with needless descriptions, like here and here. I'll take a look, thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@KatnissEverdeen: I blocked them indefinitely. They seem to lack a fundamental ability to edit constructively, and going through their last ten edits or so, it's just a mess of problems from bad sourcing to addition of trivia, etc. I don't think they're quite ready to edit here yet. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you so much for taking care of them. Hope you're doing well! Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 03:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello sir, as this user Ericranium, reverting my edits towards Mohor, Sreemoyee, Desher Maati and Khorkuto and adding vandal details like unsourced content and mentioning family tags in cast. Kboomika33 (talk) 11:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Stop Vandalising Sreemoyee, Mohor etc. articles

Not everything on wikipedia can be sourced nor it should be plus u are deleting the references regarding the adaptations also family relations are important in Indian TV articles otherwise how would a viewer identify a character because mostly the characters are not known by their given names but their relation with the main character, and your tone and style of editing is improper as u are making a mess of the well organised articles which mostly I myself have created and editing ever since their release. I am not reverting anyone's edits, I am editing the articles so u better not indulge urself in these articles as u clearly dont know anything about them as u dont watch these series. Dont disrupt and vandalise these articles. Ericranium (talk) 13:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ericranium and Kboomika33: A claim that Show A is an adaptation of Show B should be supported by a reliable source. Otherwise, you are making an interpretive conclusion by noting similarities between two shows. That constitutes original research, and you can't add such content. Note also that there is a lot of plagiarism in Indian entertainment, so when you call something an adaptation without providing proof, you might be accusing someone of stealing the show's premise, which would not be good. The claim that "not everything on wikipedia can be sourced" is absurd. If you can't provide a reference, then the content can't be verified. If it can't be verified, it doesn't belong here. Further, Ericranium, Indian television articles are polluted by excessive focus on family relationships, when they should contain actual descriptions of the characters. "Anu is a florist who raises two children by herself. She is jealous of Irma, because Irma never had to work." I don't know what quality articles either of you have ever seen, but you should both go through WP:GA and find some from outside of India. See The Boys (2019 TV series). This isn't GA-level, but it's the only one I could think of at the moment. Every time an editor adds "Anu: Amitabh's wife, David's mother, Sally's sister, Oma's granddaughter", without any other content, we are telling readers nothing about the character. Who is the character? What do they do? What are their aspirations? What do they do that makes them a villain? These are questions we should be answering. Good decisions that you make today will carry to other articles. So will bad ones. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ericcranium and Kboomika33: Here are two more examples: Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series), Friends. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb and Kboomika33: In Indian TV shows the characters dont have much of a character and even the villains change over the course but their relations do remain and we must mention them for the viewers' benefit added to that there can be character descriptions ofcourse as for the adaptations they were sourced but the sources have been removed amid all the disruptive editing u can check them in history so any body may feel free to add them to the current revision instead of deleting everything pointlessly to disrupt and vandalise the article. Plus if u want a source for every single letter in an article instead of trusting a experienced editor (me) who has been editing the articles over the years then I can guarantee u no single article in wikipedia can remain as they are, so u better delete every article instead of complicating things and vandalisng and disrupting the article's progress. I am so mad😡Ericranium (talk) 14:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing in Teri Laadli Main

Sir, through the facts collected from relevant sources Teri Laadli Main series is an official a remake of Star Maa's Telugu series Mouna Raagam. However, a user AtharvM7 is constantly changing the information in Wikipedia of Teri Laadli Main, quoting Teri Laadli Main to be a remake of Mulgi Zali Ho, when Mulgi Zali Ho itself is a remake of Star Maa's Telugu series Mouna Raagam. I have warned the user twice, but is there anything else too be done? --Aleyamma38 (talk) 13:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38: Are there any references that support this claim? If not, the content could be seen as interpretive. I mean, I see this, but it doesn't say "Mouna Raagam". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Sir there is a video [3] which clearly PROVES that how the original series was Star Maa's Telugu series Mouna Raagam, and how this series was remade into different languages.

Sir, there are still editors with different IP addresses who are vandalizing the article Teri Laadli Main ever since I last warned AtharvM7 --Aleyamma38 (talk) 20:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38: While I understand that this YouTube outlet did a video comparison, they are not a reliable source. We should have something published that says that Show A is a remake of Show B. Otherwise, it is interpretive, and that constitutes original research. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I understand Sir, but till now no RELIABLE SOURCE has yet published the fact though it is true. original research can be done using the plots of all the adaptation series. But is there any way to stop the disruptive editing in the article of Teri Laadli Main? Because there are editors who are constantly changing the original series to be Mulgi Zali Ho when, the latter itself is a remake of Star Maa's Telugu series Mouna Raagam--Aleyamma38 (talk) 21:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38: I already semi-protected the page for 2 weeks, but AtharvM7 will have appropriate user permissions to edit the article in a few days. So it might be a better approach to delete the claim until it can be sourced. Nobody's going to die if the content isn't there for a while. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Okay Sir, I will delete the claim until it sourced well. Thanks a million for protecting the page at present. --Aleyamma38 (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Question2

Hi , I uploaded a file that was 67kb and DatBot uploaded a file that is 99kb and said that it is a reduced size of the image but my image size was smaller than DatBot's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kuchtohhai.jpg User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2 (talk) 08:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help

Hey, I recently tried to move List of Indian Academy Award winner and nominees to List of Indian winners and nominees of the Academy Awards as per the reviewers' comment on its ongoing FLC. But somehow the talk page did not move for some reason. Now it doesn't have a talk page. Can you please help? I'm pretty clueless. Yashthepunisher (talk) 13:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@Yashthepunisher: It looks to me like you moved the article to the talk page. Do you recall ever using the talk page? What I mean is, can you confirm whether or not that list had an active talk page versus one that hadn't been created yet? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the article DID have a talk page otherwise the FLC nomination wouldn't be possible to initiate. But somehow by moving the article, I created a redirect, so now the talk and the main page are the same. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:05, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Question 2

Hi . If an actor is replaced in a TV show , must the image be with the replaced actor ? User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2 (talk) 13:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@User'sfavoriteshowekdujekevaaste2: Not mandatory, no. Encyclopedia articles track the whole history of the series, not just the most recent information or developments. So images should be decided through discussion on the talk page if there is a dispute. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I'll also mention that the point of an infobox image is to identify the subject of the article, i.e. the show itself. So just having a logo is fine. Images aren't decorations. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Rakesh Mish

Please keep an eye on this user. He knows an awful lot for someone who joined just two months ago. And he also seems to have a pro-Telugu agenda as seen at Kalidas. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Yeah, and on the 10th they cranked out three articles into main space. Smells like WP:UPE. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hey as you redirected Top Tucker to Badshah (rapper) previously because back then it was not released but now the song is released. Does it is consider as notable now? (just a question) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyderabadi (talk • contribs) 09:10, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hyderabadi: Please sign your posts with four tildes like ~~~~ as this will append a signature and time stamp, so that others will know who said what, and when. I redirected the article with the very clear explanation that it fails WP:NSONG, our notability criteria for songs. Not every song in the world needs or warrants a Wikipedia article. See also our general notability criteria. A song, merely being released, doesn't mean that it is notable. Think of how many millions of songs are made each year. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 09:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb:Thanks for clarifying and also i will use tildes from now onwards. Hyderabadi (talk) 09:35, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Two things

• IPs hell-bent on adding Ganpath and Heropanti 2 in the filmography section of the Tiger Shroff article, despite no news on principal photography. I've explained that many time in the edit summaries, but they wouldn't listen. I believe the page need to be protected for some time.
• Is this user a sock of Jitzag? I see similar interest in singer articles and Assamese language films like Mission China, Underworld, Kanchenjunga, etc.

- Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Semi-protected the Tiger Shroff article for 2 weeks. Thanks for the tip about Jitazg. I noticed them a few weeks back and was waiting for them to be more ducky. I filed an SPI on them yesterday, but still appreciate the open eyes. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and welcome sir. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Krack film

Sir, IPs keep adding unsourced content about the film being inspired by the Tamil film Sethupathi [4] [5] [6]. I believe it needs to requires protection. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Block evasion

Looks like block evasion by user:Chutrandi [7] [8]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:44, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Handled. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Obsession with the "partner" parameter

Seems some IPs and users (including this one) are hell bent on adding "Aly Goni" as the subject's |partner= despite multiple edit summaries on how this parameter is restricted for "unmarried long term life partner" as explained here. I don't know how to stop this. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: While I would tend to agree that it's probably a misuse of this parameter to include someone that the subject, a 30-year-old, has been dating for a year, you might ask the community for some clarity on that, since it's somewhat vague and I don't know what hard line to draw, or how to express that to this editor. "This parameter is only for people who have been in a relationship for ten years or more without being married!" or whatever. How are we differentiating boyfriend from life partner? Seems like they'd have to live together as a first step. Do they have to have a kid? I don't like vague instructions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

True the instructions are vague. Where can I ask for clarification? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Some IP (I've seen them before making good edits) reverted it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Template talk:Infobox person. I think it's often a good idea to raise these questions publicly. Helps to light a fire under the community's arse sometimes. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

, I'll do. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Avinash Sachdev

Reg this edit [9] User:RYLELT7 reverted an information regarding the actor Avinash Sachdev's personal life . I have a doubt whether is it right of it to include it or not? Could you please clarify. With regards. Noobie anonymous (talk) 09:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@Noobie anonymous: I don't think it's unreasonable to include information about a 4-year relationship with another actor, but ultimately this is something to hash out on the talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:17, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Ramya Krishnan

That IP has started adding "late" immediately after the block expired [10], despite the fact that I had notified them about the discussion in the edit summary. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: This is another one of those situations where if you had A) opened a discussion and B) dropped a {{talkback}} on their talk page inviting them to the discussion, (which Twinkle makes very easy to do) it would be easier to administrate. Who knows if the anon will read the edit summary you provided? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me sir, I was going to open a discussion but forgot. I'll do it now. Today I opened 3-4 discussion for noob users to 'see', just for the sake of it. As far as that template discussion went, while I appreciate the suggestions, it went off tangent and was rather irrelevant in that specific talk page to discuss, since my first post had nothing to do with the possibilities of banning that newbie nor had I requested for page protection (already done that in WP:RPP) in that talk page. Instead they pinged with this, I mean how relevant it is to discuss WP:ANI like stuff or page protection in a template talk page in which the original post was on a parameter specific to the template? I wasn't even expecting this. If all that 'venting' had been on the WP:RPP request thread or atleast in my talk page, it would have been more relevant and I'd have been happy to take it. Sorry! . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I wouldn't get too upset about it. It's common for there to be misunderstandings or to have personality conflicts with other editors. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Have to admit, I got a little upset. Thanks sir for this reply . Oh.. I have opened a discussion, hope the IP sees that. They seem to be using it same IP since 26 January. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Since the IP has again submitted the "late" without participating, I have interrupted their ability to edit that article for 2 weeks, in order to encourage their participation in discussion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Nice. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Now added "late" again using another IP [11]. The article needs protection it seems. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

New suspect sock of Dmjoshi12

Hi, I've notice you blocked USGCC as suspected sock of Dmjoshi12, after they made similar edits to OCJ77 another sock of Dmjoshi12. I'm just letting you know that is another user making similar edits to USGCC and USGCC, meaning they are likely a new sock of Dmjoshi12. The user is Amitbhatt12 and they made same or similar edits on the Alibaba Marjinaa, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, and Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time articles as well been making edits to Draft:Honey Bunny Ka Johlmaal. All the same articles that other suspect socks made edits on. I'm just bring this to your attention. TheDeviantPro (talk) 10:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@TheDeviantPro: Thanks for the tip! I'll take care of it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Eswnav, part several

Hi Cyphoidbomb, you've been communicating with Eswnav before about edits relating to Vani Bhojan – today, they (yet again) did this, never having acknowledged or answered the questions about those edits on their talk page. (Looking for old conversations with and about Eswnav on your talk page, I also noticed that no response ever came forth to your question here...) I don't think this behaviour is going to stop, and I don't want to go to ANI if I can help it. Could you do something adminny, do you think? Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 15:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Hey there, sorry for the delay in responding. This edit in particular is a bit more of a grey area for me. There are four people on the poster, which would suggest that there are four leads; I think that's her on the lower left. Of course it doesn't explain the usual ignorance of calling someone a star in one place and then saying she plays a supporting role. But let me see if I can find that other account I suspected them of having. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Found it. Eswaran Naveen. Eswnav has been indeffed. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive editing in Bigg Boss 14

Would you please add protection in Bigg Boss 14 because there have been disrupted edits in this article. Finale is going to be on 21 February at night. Till 22nd February would you please add protection. Jenifree 15:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jenifree: Protected 1 week. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: THANK YOU!! Jenifree 02:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding some info in awards section of naagin 5

Please add the awards recently won by Surbhi Chandna and Sharad Malhotra (ITA) under the awards and nomination section! Eternal Soul International Model United Nations (talk) 01:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Pls add Sudha Chandran as main character in season 1 & 2

The story of complete season 1 was based upon on Yamini. Her mystery of being the fifth murderer, wearing the magical ring as a necklace, her relation with Sangram singh and Ritik. She is the one who changes the mind of shesha. In season 2, she leads the group of murderers of shivanya and she is the one who kills the real parents of rocky. She even leads the clan of murderers of Ritik. She also makes a guest appearance in naagin 3. Pls add Sudha Chandran as the main character And even Rakshanda khan in naagin 3. You are not mentioning the darker sides, please take care of that. Eternal Soul International Model United Nations (talk) 01:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Possible socks

Substantial interactions. Shall I start an SPI? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I'd wait for behavioural similarities to develop. 2 intersections isn't going to quite cut it. If they add/restore the same material or have the same operating procedure, then sure. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:16, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

OK. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

These are the diffs [12] [13] [14]. But since these are restricted to a single article, we should probably wait. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Not opening a new thread, looks like the work of a sock here. Unnecessary image changes in many articles, this for example. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Who is this a suspected sock of? What is the behavioural evidence? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Her? She used to change images frequently. Might be others I don't know. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Feels different. The inclusion of American subjects is not typical of Riya. And this person is doing weird things like using image titles as captions like here, which results in WP:SURNAME issues as well as idiotic phrasing like so-and-so "graces" an event, which makes it sound like Wikipedia thinks she blessed Earth with her presence. And they're using wide-shot watermarked images, which I think she would know not to do, but who knows. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, I'll keep an eye. I think I've crossed paths with them before, matches the description more closely, but forgot the articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Edits Made to List of Songs Recorded by KK

Recently I added the information related to KK songs from Hum Jo Kehna Paaye. Since the album is not available on ayn music platforms I added IMDb's page as reference but it was removed by you stating IMDb is not suitable. The same movie is listed in Anupam Kher's discography of 2004 even without any citation of IMDb. The intention is to let people know the unknown and unnoticed songs. Please let me know if you want me to make you listen to the songs I mentioned so that you can verify it was sung by KK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandu Sekhar95 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Chandu Sekhar95: Hi there, I appreciate that you took the time to open a discussion. Listening to a song and deciding that it was performed by ___ artist is the epitome of original research, which isn't allowed at Wikipedia. One singer could easily sound like another singer, and a few years back I had a brief argument with another editor about whether a photo was showing Actor A or Actor B, and I could see why they thought it was B, even when I thought it was A. Content needs to be attributed to reliable published sources. IMDb is not considered a reliable source per WP:RS. If the album has been published and the liner notes contain proper attributions that the subject sang on the tracks, then you can cite the published medium using {{Cite AV media}}. For the sake of verifiability, it is preferable to have this information found on the internet, but it is not required. That said, I know how inconsistent the Indian entertainment industry is with providing proper credits. TV actors and film actors often don't receive acknowledgement onscreen for their work, so there is a significant challenge before you, and you could receive pushback from editors who want to see the actual sources. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

then have you removed the same from Anupam Kher's discography? It's unfair to see the good content go unnoticed, even though you acknowledge the challenges in getting the content of old movies. I am disheartened by this act after having done analysis with the film and observing end credits of the movie and now you remove it even though you understand the challenge. I suppose this page should not be of your interest when you are not ready to analyse something about music and singer's voice given this page is about music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandu Sekhar95 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Chandu Sekhar95: Hi again, it would be appreciated if you'd please sign your posts with four tildes like ~~~~, which will append your signature and a time stamp that will identify who said what and when it was said. As for your response, that comparably poorly-sourced material be removed from another article, this is a standard counter-argument in discussions of this type, but it's largely an emotional argument, not a rational one. There is no practical way to organise the removal of all problematic content all across the encyclopedia. If I had told you that you misspelled the word Britain in one of your contributions, and your response was that all misspellings of Britain should be fixed across the entire encyclopedia, I would probably agree with you, but neither you nor I would likely be able to provide a coherent plan for making this change happen, so the counter-argument is irrelevant. Now getting back on track, if the information is logged in the film's end credits, then cite the end credits. Time stamps are additionally helpful. See {{Cite AV media}}, which I mentioned to you above. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Sock

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb just want to inform you that the user you blocked User:Riya Iyer S Menon is editing on a new user. My suspicion is that this User:Guntaaz has been doing the same edits as Riya like here [15] - riya and here [16]. More please take action and block — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.60.67 (talk) 14:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for the tip. I'm aware of this new editor and I'm keeping an eye on them. I'm not 100% convinced they're related, so I'm hoping to find more behavioural evidence. If you find more of these coincidences, please send them my way. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Kamya introduction

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb please make this User:RYLELT7 understand that don’t remove the Bigg Boss section in the top as he or she did here [17] as she is also known for appearing in the show as she was one of the main contestants who did well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.60.67 (talk) 05:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, I can't stop this editor from having this opinion, even if I were to disagree with it. You need to discuss it with them on the talk page. The article subject has appeared on a number of reality shows, so it's unclear why this one season is more important than others, but that's something you should be willing to discuss, as this is a community editing project. Sorry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@86.143.60.67: If you want that in the lead that badly, okay. Doesn't bother me. I just found it a little bit unreasonable to include that in lead just for her being a part on this Big Boss show. And, this wasn't my personal opinion. Additional note: as mentioned earlier, this type of stuff should be discussed on the articles' talk page itself where contributors can reach consensus WP:CONS. It doesn't always require an admin's attention. Hope you're happy now. RYLELT7 (talk) 05:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Time to dance film article

Time to dance film article is redirect to Bhushan Kumar's article. The film is going to release on 12 March now. Sush150 (talk) 12:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

From what I can see here Bovineboy2008 converted it to a redirect, feeling that it was not notable. You might open a discussion with them and bring whatever new references you have that would demonstrate that it is notable. Merely existing and being released doesn't mean it is notable. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Salaar POV ethnic warring

Apart from this guy you warned, IP (possibly him) undoing the same stuff here, here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Yeah, they clearly have an opinion about this. I've tacked onto your warning on the logged-in user's talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I saw that, thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Some users and IPs vandalizing Chehre

Some users and IPs have been vandalising the Chere. See these removal of sourced content [18] [19]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Help me for Create Article

Please sir help me for create article but article in below references so please help me for article. Comindaf (talk) 10:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Kriti Sanon

Sir, this IP wouldn't listen. Initially they were copy-pasting sources from the Bachhan Pandey entry diff1 and diff2. Now added entry without source here. I've warned them and also invited them in the talk page. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

It is possible they might try the same in Tiger Shroff article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: If someone is committing obvious vandalism, like adding fake references, there no need to discuss that. I would just slap incremental warning templates on their talk page. If they continue, then let me know and I'll block the IP. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I've already issued a level 4 warning, after the second unsourced addition. I reverted again now. Let's see if they discuss. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

The IP again added it here, also another IP changed her birth year [20]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

IP again. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Your edit summary

Regarding this, I don't think that particular user cares one lick about "appropriate. Sigh.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 00:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Boy, I was in a really shitty mood when I wrote that. Must've been a high fan-drool day. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

No blame from me, my friend. If you were to leave this place Wikipedia would soon collapse under the sheer weight of unreverted studio UPE propagandic detritus. -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 00:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Lol! Thanks for that acknowledgement. I'll save that as my coup de grace when the community finally turns against me. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Retaining page Disney James

Hi, What references should we add in order to retain the page Disney James. Kindly guide us, please. Plackiyil (talk) 17:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Plackiyil: The article has already been deleted as a result of the closed discussion found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disney James. When you create an article, you need to be able to demonstrate that the subject, in this case Disney James, mees Wikipedia's notability criteria. There are two that are relevant here.

1. Our General Notability Guideline, which requires that James has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. "Significant coverage" is detailed writing about the subject directly, not about films they've participated in. It also doesn't mean a passing mention. A "reliable source" is a mainstream source with an established reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. In the context of Indian cinema, see WP:ICTFSOURCES for some (but not all) examples of good and bad sources. Blogs, data websites, IMDb, social media do nothing to help here. "Independent" means unrelated to the subject. Press releases don't count. The subject's own writings or website(s) don't count. Even interviews do nothing to establish notability.
2. Criteria specifically for actors can be found at WP:NACTOR.

Based on what little I found in the way of coverage of James, he doesn't seem to meet our General Notability Guideline. It also does not appear that he meets our notability criteria for actors, since he has mostly been a bit player, not the star of multiple mainstream films or television series. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It was a long term effort. But we understand your criteria. Thankyou for your support so far. Plackiyil (talk) 18:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Edits

Hi can you please revert User:Kartiksingh12345 edits in Bigg Boss 7, 8, 13 & 14 as the reception bit is not needed and unsourced thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.60.67 (talk) 22:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I've reverted two and have issued a warning, but I'm not terribly interested in those articles and this is something that any editor can do. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

I appreciate your comments agreeing with my view regarding birth names in infoboxes. Unfortunately, others seem to feel differently. I wish the style guidelines were specific (even if they were specific contrary to my view). It seems a waste of time and effort to have names that differ only by middle name sometimes added and sometimes removed. A consistent approach would be nice. Eddie Blick (talk) 22:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Teblick: I dislike vague instructions as well and I think the discussion should continue to take place until a better consensus develops. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

That sounds good. By the way, shortly after I read the discussion this afternoon and wrote to you, I saw an article in which an editor had added the birth name -- differing only by middle name from the title -- to the article's infobox. The back-and-forth will continue endlessly unless some more specific guideline is provided. Eddie Blick (talk)

@Teblick: Yeah, as I said, the purpose of the infobox is to summarise content found elsewhere in the article. If we're making a point of noting anywhere in the article body that the person's birth name differs from their common name then to my mind, the |birth_name= parameter should include this, because it is summarising content found elsewhere. Emily Deschanel → Emily Erin Deschanel is a difference of one name. So I guess that (arbitrarily) doesn't meet the undecided "threshold"? Cher's |birthname= is Cherilyn Sarkisian. That's a difference of one and a half names. Is that enough to justify |birthname= addition? What about Madonna vs. |birth_name= Madonna Louise Ciccone? That's a difference of 2 whole names. Does that qualify? Or is this one of those "I'll know it when I see it" arbitrary objections? Anyway, I could rant about this for a while, but a lot of infobox templates and parameters were likely added by well-meaning folks a long-ass time ago, and I've seen many cases where there wasn't a whole lot of contemplation or discussion about the intention of the various parameters, just one person adding a thing. This could be such a situation. I lean toward clear explanations, but there are many others who reject clarification for one reason or another. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete Page Paper Port (TV series)

Hey sir please delete article page Paper Port (TV series) because these page are provided below references only 3 references so please delete him ध्रुविल९०१२ (talk) 14:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@ध्रुविल९०१२: If you think an article should be deleted, you should probably go through the Articles for Deletion process. However, if you do, you are required to adhere to the steps of WP:BEFORE. One of those steps is to see whether or not there is significant coverage of the subject at Google News or Google Books. I find this Variety article and this article which speak about it in depth. Thus, it is potentially notable and I would be disinclined to nominate it for deletion, if that was something I was thinking about doing, which I am not. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:32, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok Sir But Dard ka Rishta Article in not cite any source and not any references ध्रुविल९०१२ (talk) 09:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@ध्रुविल९०१२: And? What do you want me to do? There are many thousands of articles that probably should not exist at Wikipedia or that should, but that are poorly sourced or unsourced. This is a volunteer-based project. If you see a problem, fix it or address it. I'm sure there are books on Indian cinema out there that talk about this film. Or newspapers. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

OK Sir I understand thanks for reply ध्रुविल९०१२ (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding DOB

Hi. Regarding DOB's, if a source does not indicate the birth year they were born, but for example, it says they turned 22, is it acceptable for inclusion to include the birth year or no? RYLELT7 (talk) 00:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@RYLELT7: Hi there, you can, but with circumspection: some articles don't have publication dates, they have "Updated" dates, which may not coincide with when the article was written. I would advise not using these. I also don't trust slideshows, as they could have been assembled by interns and I've seen some real sloppy ones. The community also doesn't like Times of India bios (see archived discussion here for background. Also TOI is already on the community's shitlist for subjects like politics, but we're a little more forgiving with their fluffy entertainment reporting, although it appears to be on the decline.)

I've also seen some examples of sources changing birthdates/ages over time. @Fylindfotberserk: Do you remember a conversation about an actor's age where, looking through the Wayback Machine, I noticed that news outlet had changed the subject's age? Did I have that conversation with you? Any idea where that might have been? Anyway, RYLELT7, I know I answered more than you asked, but I figured it would be helpful to have this other info. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC

Oh okay. Got it. Thanks for the response. RYLELT7 (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb, Kind of, but I'm forgetting that actor's name. We had similar conversations on quite a few actor BLPs. I typically check with Wayback whenever I come across "updated" dates of publication. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I stumbled onto it just now. Talk:Aditi Rao Hydari. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh thanks. I was thinking hard yesterday. This is not in my watchlist, perhaps why I forgot about it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

pinkvilla in master article

sir is pinkvilla considered reliable to use?. It has been still used in Master film article lead section with 225 estimate? I am confused. Lodaku (talk) 15:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Lodaku: No it is not. I explained that at Talk:Master (2021 film). Also, the editor who kept adding that has been blocked as a sockpuppet of SuriyaCR7Fan, a hot-headed editor who apparently has an anti-Vijay agenda. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Ok sir. I had doubt since Anomiebot restored pinkvilla. sorry for the query.Lodaku (talk) 16:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Lodaku: Anomiebot is a "bot", or a piece of software. It was looking for an "orphaned" reference. The reference had been deleted elsewhere, but <ref name="gross" /> still remained in the article. Anomiebot looks for these orphans, and then restores the deleted citation. It doesn't consider whether the source is reliable or not. Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Your message about my edit on Gouri G Kishan

I haven't updated it blindly and there is a reliable source. She herself announced it over her Instagram and Facebook handles and how can you say it's a speculation? Do you know if it's true? How came you know about something or someone who you don't even follow properly? VIHARI3414 (talk) 02:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@VIHARI3414: There are several problems here that you are apparently ignorant to: Here, you add to a filmography that the subject is going to appear in something you describe as "Mozhikal Njan,Verikal Nee (Musical Video)". 1) A music video is not a film. 2) It's unclear, based on your poor formatting, whether this title is one music video or two. 3) You provide no reference for this future project, which contravenes WP:CRYSTAL, and 4) If you add something to a filmography, you should probably be able to substantiate that it's begun filming per WP:FILMOGRAPHY. Nobody at Wikipedia is required to follow Gouri G Kishan and know every nuance of her upcoming projects to edit. Rather, if you edit here, you need to follow community guidelines and adhere to basic expectations that the content you add is properly sourced, AND that the subject has actually started the work that you're claiming they have performed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

awards

Hi Cyphoidbomb, and DMacks. I hope you guys are doing well. Could you please take a look at Ananda Vikatan Cinema Awards? I think that award ceremony is not notable enough. But I am not sure. What do you guys think? —usernamekiran (talk) 19:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: Hi there, is this about the article itself, or whether the Ananda Vikatan Cinema Awards should be included in actor/film articles? Awards are a tricky area in my thinking. On the one hand, Ananda Vikatan seems like a major publication, so their awards might be worthy of mention in an article, but I know that it's also unlikely that anybody has written in depth about the award itself, which would mean that the GNG is likely not going to be met. We don't have specific notability criteria for awards as far as I know, so I don't know what other critieria would apply. Maybe WP:NCORP, if we consider the award its own entity or organisation? But even then, the guideline says that "no company or organization is considered inherently notable" and that notability is not inherited, then it basically reaffirms the GNG as the criteria that must be met to be considered notable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

yes, I am thinking about the article itself. I am not sure if its notable enough to have an article. And yes, in AfD discussions about awards, generally GNG, and NEVENTS are referred, and rarely NCORP. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I would think an award (or set of awards) must meet WP:GNG on its own, not merely be from a notable publication or other organization (WP:NOTINHERITED). Regarding the listing of awards in the bio pages, I see Cyphoidbomb already tried to get some info at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Actors and Filmmakers/Archive 16#Awards. Also relevant might be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 56#The removal of non notable awards on film articles. DMacks (talk) 04:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@DMacks and Usernamekiran: Related, I also opened a discussion at MOS:BIO to see if we could get some steam for clarifying whether the principle of "don't add an award unless there's an article on the award, where notability has been adequately established" would be relevant to biographical articles. Unfortunately, the discussion didn't see a lot of participation, but at least some people tended to agree. It upsets me that award mills are so prevalent yet nobody wants to discuss the bare minimum threshold for inclusion. It also doesn't help that editors scurry away like mice the moment they see the word "India". Just part of Wikipedia's systemic pro-western bias, I guess. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Potential block evasion

Hello. GauthamKrishna085 (talk · contribs) is created a day after Garvit34507's sock Arvind Khanvillkar was blocked. They are repeating stuff like lead roles, starring bloat, and ensemble supporting cast. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ab207: Hi there, if a film has a bona fide ensemble cast, then I don't know that there's anything specifically wrong about listing that cast in the starring parameter. An ensemble cast, by definition, is a cast where nobody is specifically more important than anybody else. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World comes to mind as an example. Where we get into a weird, interpretive area, is in an edit like this, where the editor is using "ensemble" to describe a supporting cast--how is that ensemble any different from any other supporting cast? Anyhow, it seems like block evasion to me. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If you were referring to S/O Satyamurthy: Many of the so-called "ensemble cast" aren't even credited in the film. As far as I can tell, the film has a sole protagonist, in contrast to the definition of ensemble cast. In the other edit, I'm not really sure except a feeling that it's a weird description. Anyway, thanks for looking into it! -- Ab207 (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Revdel

Please could you revdel last IP edits to my talk page User talk:TheAafi? Abusive attacks in Kashmiri language. Can't tolerate. Please. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 21:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@AafiOnMobile: Done. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I wasn't expecting protection lol. Anyways, this seems to be from rivalry gang around Zeyan Shafiq article. Thanks. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 21:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Open proxy

These edits remind me of these proxies [21] [22] and their edits [23]. They seem to be working in the similar topic area. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Could be related. I don't believe that we sanctioned the editor, rather, the webhost proxy was closed because the community finds these proxies to be used for disruptive purposes. So I'll look into a open proxy check. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: My bad, I forgot that this was a whole deal. See [24]. I've opened the proxy check and it looks like it's related. See [25] if you're interested. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, and that would mean that the editor is disallowed from editing since they were being disruptive. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I found another possible open proxy [26], making ORs. Last time they used multiple proxies, possibly they are doing it now a swell. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:11, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Columns

Hi Cyphoidbomb,

Thanks for getting rid of that {{div col}} I added; I got carried away in the excitement of columns!

Cheers, ritenerek^talk :) 22:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Help again

Dear Cyphoidbomb, There's someone misusing my name here. Please see Anjumaafi – thanks in advance. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 19:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

@AafiOnMobile: Hi there, how are you certain that this is an impostor account? There are a number of user names that contain the string "aafi". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:59, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

first because this is around the article Zeyan Shafiq and there has been a game around this article, and some one even opened a spuruous SPI against them. And most importantly from this, "Anjumaafi" is specific to my name, User:Aaqib Anjum Aafi redirects to my userpage. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 20:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

@AafiOnMobile: Thanks for the info. I was going to block them, but it looks like they were blocked globally already. The end. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, Thanks for blocking the new idiot harassing me. That username is very much "harassing" – I wish it never exists. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 17:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sock

Hello Cyphoidbomb. There's user Jayanthkumar123 (talk · contribs), who split a soundtrack article, with the same wording (Tollywood film of the same name) like Tarunq would. Their user page "Namaskar" also reminds of Tarunq's "Hello folks" and their sock Rakesh Mish's "Welcome." Not very familiar with the SPI procedure, therefore reporting to you. Thanks -- Ab207 (talk) 07:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Ab207:, the best way to report SPI is using the WP:TWINKLE feature. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 17:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

AafiOnMobile, Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Ab207 nice that. I've seen that it has already been posted to the relevant SPI. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 17:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk Fatehi

In all of the posts of that user, he was making some sort of personal attacks. Calling users racist (this one for example, also in the talk page) all the way to taking jabs other users' ability to read. Shouldn't we be dealing with that? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I mentioned this to them on their talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Dilemma

Sir, should I warn this user for making legal threats or just report to ANI as per Wikipedia:Zero tolerance. The user has previously tried to blank sourced sections. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:54, 7 March 2021 (UTC)