Elli

Hi! This is my talk page, feel free to drop me a message. To experienced editors: feel free to stalk my talk page and reply to any threads here.To admins: I prefer that my talk page remain unprotected, even if it's being vandalized. Such edits do not particularly bother me and I prefer to remain accessible to anyone who would like to reach me. However, if the volume of vandalism is so high that no other solution would stop disruption, I don't mind if my talk page is semi-protected for a day or two. Hopefully, this is a rare occurrence.

Help with deleted page

WP:SOCKSTRIKE NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 01:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi, recently i see that you delete a Page, i will consider an help from you, to make best with sources and references , and if possible page to be alive again. Benny8907 (talk) 21:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from RigbyNicholson (20:36, 24 October 2024)

Hey, I have submitted this article three times and every time, I try to add creditable sources and references, what is an example of a creditable source? --RigbyNicholson (talk) 20:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@RigbyNicholson hi. What you want is a source that is both reliable (published by a reputable organization) and independent (unrelated to the subject). The coverage also needs to be significant: at least a paragraph or two about the subject. For example, a newspaper article about the subject in a reputable paper would count for this. Please let me know if you have more questions. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sameer Alam786 (04:14, 25 October 2024)

How to write a new article --Sameer Alam786 (talk) 04:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

It is a village Sameer Alam786 (talk) 04:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@Sameer Alam786 hi! Help:Your first article should help. Please let me know if you have specific questions. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sange Mafaya on Wikipedia:Writing better articles (23:49, 26 October 2024)

hello . can some people see my posts --Sange Mafaya (talk) 23:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@Sange Mafaya yes; is there something you need help with? Elli (talk | contribs) 23:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Long-term "caste warring"

Elli, could you have a look at the history of the block of this IP relative to the new IP 2409:40d5 (sample1, sample2) editing also at Aga Syed Ruhullah Mehdi, as mentioned also here? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia the person that block was intended for was mainly Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HinduKshatrana. Not seeing a super obvious link with the users you mentioned; maybe Ratnahastin would know? Could be worth filing at SPI for a second look, but I don't feel comfortable with blocking before a bit more investigation, especially as that /40 looks pretty active. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info; I couldn't decipher the sockmaster in that case. I don't have time to further investigate for several days, but will come back to it as I find time and if the issues continue. Thx again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Arkofangel (16:03, 28 October 2024)

hi my name is valentine riddle and I have a question how to hightlight your words on the pages --Arkofangel (talk) 16:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@Arkofangel Hi; I'm not quite sure what you are asking here. Can you please clarify? Elli (talk | contribs) 19:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

how to like put colors on the main words of the statement you making Arkofangel (talk) 21:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Good choice of words

In your block message here. I once went full-on in that Cool Hand Luke quote in a block message; I've also used it as a reason to deny unblock when the requestor continues being chippy. Daniel Case (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@Daniel Case thanks :) Elli (talk | contribs) 22:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Renewed vandalism

Greetings, the user that you blocked from editing the page List of Wars by Death Toll is now randomly reverting my own edits in other pages without providing any edit summary and it seems like he will keep reverting them. I feel like that user should temporarily be blocked from editing all of Wikipedia rather than just one page. Teotzin190 (talk) 09:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

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Question from Kojo Option (11:14, 2 November 2024)

How do I create a profile --Kojo Option (talk) 11:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Israeli Air Force Bases

Hi Elli, thank you for protecting the article Nevatim Airbase one month ago. I have written most of the content about the Israeli airbases, but I'm afraid that all IAF base articles will become victims of vandalism since the Israel-Iran conflict intensifies. Can you give them all the "Extended Protection"? They are listed down below on every IAF base article. Sdo216 (talk) 11:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

"Michigan seems like a dream to me now" sings Paul Simon in his song America from 1968. I've been there in August 1996 and remember Port Huron, Troy, Frankenmuth (German beer and Christmas store), Grandville, Holland State Park (a day at the beach) and Benton Harbour. Sdo216 (talk) 12:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Sdo216 thanks for reaching out :) I'm a bit hesitant to protect all of those articles as protections aren't usually done preemptively on such a large scale. Though the Arab-Israeli conflict is a bit of an exception there, many of these articles are only moderately related and don't seem to have attracted much disruption (such as Haifa Airport).

Also... I love that song. I'm glad you have fond memories of Michigan and hope you can return to visit sometime. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Muppets-related harassment

Hi Elli. In July, you blocked 2604:BFC0:101:F117:0:0:0:0/64 because they were editing disruptively, and harassing me on my talk page. The same person has resurfaced with a slightly different IP address -- 2604:BFC0:101:FC8E:0:0:0:0/64. Would you be able to block that address as well? Thanks very much for your help. Toughpigs (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Toughpigs I've blocked the /52; hopefully that is sufficient. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Toughpigs (talk) 18:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you today for 1964 Illinois House of Representatives election, "about the time in 1964 when Illinois elected their entire State House at-large. In a twist no one expected, politicians played politics, leading to a redistricting deadlock and this fascinating election, the only one of its type. This is my first FA nomination and I hope y'all enjoy reading and reviewing it as much as I enjoyed researching and writing it :)"! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt you're very welcome! Thank you for your kind words :) Elli (talk | contribs) 08:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Extended confirmed

on 25 August 2024 I asked if I can have extended confirmed access back. Can I have it back now? Most of the articles I wanna edit I can't, and I've been constructively editing for months HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I submitted a request like months ago and I never got a notification back. Can you just give it to me? Remember last time when I had extended confirmed access, there was no vandalism or edit wars or anything like that, I tried my best to edit constructive. I admit a few months ago I got impatience at times and tried to rush edits in one night and wasted people's time in talk pages by arguing about stupid things. But I changed. My discussions in talk pages have been constructive in the last few months, barely any of my edits get reverted because I believe they're good and makes the page better, and nobody had to explain the rules to me anymore, I recently read all of them. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Quick note on Template:U.S. current election editnotice

Thanks for your edits to Template:U.S. current election editnotice.

Most of the cable news channels draw their data from AP/Reuters who makes their own calls. I think CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. may still be reliable in terms of election reporting despite being poor outside of these elections. I don't think we should say anything other than "[name of source] called [name of state] for [candidate]" as attributed opinion. This kind of stuff requires multiple reliable sources, yes. I don't think hand picking arbitrary reliable sources and only using those sources to call elections is a good idea. Awesome Aasim 23:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim the reason for this is that all of those five have independent desks. NBC and MSNBC make the same calls. Fox News is probably not reliable post-2020. And this is for listing states as "X won" in wikivoice, not noting that a candidate was called the winner by a particular station. For that, we can include even if there isn't a consensus between all the networks yet. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

What about foreign news sources? Like CBC or BBC or ABC Australia or DW? Don't they also make calls on election night? Awesome Aasim 23:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Pretty sure most of those aren't independent. And again we don't need to add more here unless you think a consensus of these five would be insufficient. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I do agree there should be significant agreement among reliable sources, though. Awesome Aasim 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

There is also PBS/NPR. But they also pull data from AP. Awesome Aasim 23:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

For future reference, almost all the election calls are pulled from AP and Reuters. BBC used the Reuters count. Google, Bing and more used the AP count. If a call is made by both AP and Reuters, it almost certainly will be made by the others. Awesome Aasim 18:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'm well aware of this. That's why I didn't include Google, Bing, etc. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I would oppose to including Google and Bing as well. Reuters and AP are the only two sources that these networks are basing their calls from. Awesome Aasim 19:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi I'm Iminthethickofit (Inspired by the banger 'Thick of It' by KSI, not sure if you know what it is). How are you doing, hope you're well. My question today is why are some topics that have 'View Source' instead of the option to edit? I have heard that I think it has that because it is trying to protect the topic but just asking for comfirmation. Personal question (optional): Do you like 'Thick of It' by KSI, if you are an NPC you probably don't know it but becuase I assume you are human I'm sure you know what it is. What do you think of it? Kind regards, Iminthethickofit --Iminthethickofit (talk) 09:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

@Iminthethickofit (talk page stalker) When you see 'view source' instead of 'edit source', its because you cannot edit that page due to protection. Pages can be protected due to vandalism, edit war, disputes and a few other reasons . Thick of It (KSI song) is semi-protected, meaning you need at least 10 edits and 4 days. This comment is your only edit so far in Wikipedia and you only created this account on the 6th. Because the bar of semi-protection is low, you should consider editing elsewhere until you can edit semi-protected articles. And no, both me and your mentor Elli are humans, not NPCs. JuniperChill (talk) 11:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from TuuliMadero (10:51, 8 November 2024)

Hello,

We would like to create a Wikipedia page about our company.

Is this possible? If possible, could you help us?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=tuuli+gmbh

Thanks --TuuliMadero (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@TuuliMadero hi and thanks for reaching out. You should generally not write about your company yourself, because you have a conflict of interest. You can request an article, though it is unlikely one will be created unless you have multiple reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage of your company. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Shelter and support on User:Shelter and support/sandbox (06:55, 11 November 2024)

how do i save my work --Shelter and support (talk) 06:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Shelter and support the "Publish page" button should do it. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Already took it :) thanks for the reminder. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Requesting to be able to get all of the material of my deleted pages

Hey man, you nominated to delete several of my alt-hist pages several months ago and I never backed them up. I understand that hosting them on the wiki was against TOS but I was hoping that I could get the source for them so that I can save them elsewhere.

Thanks and regards. Heatyeet (talk) 02:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@Heatyeet sure thing. I'll email them to you. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Appreciate it Heatyeet (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:

• Liviu Holender chose lieder by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—Schreker, Zemlinsky, Mahler, Korngold and Schönberg—for a recital at the Oper Frankfurt.

What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt hi and thanks for your appreciation. Totally understand not wanting to focus on admin- and ArbCom-related areas, they can be exhausting. I don't really know the context necessary to answer your question, though. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

The context is that infoboxes have been regarded as a contentious topic, and I doubt that they still are. Feel free to look at the 5 composers to evaluate. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for having you on Wiki, great contributions!

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@D4n2016 thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 17:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)