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Your comment on my Talk pageeditI've responded there, but you can respond either here or there as you see fit. Long story short, what you were doing runs contrary to the way that AfDs are handled, so my undoing of your edits was entirely justified. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC) it is not even a vote just a discussion area-00:28,~ User:Fenetrejones 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Joel Mutchimunyi MulumbaeditHello Fenetrejones, I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Joel Mutchimunyi Mulumba for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For more details please see the notice on the article. If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top. You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. SamHolt6 (talk) 18:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC) Creating hoaxeseditSeptember 2018editHello, I'm Dreamy Jazz. I noticed that in this edit to Political status of Crimea, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC) Sorry, I was just trying to remove unneeded images and accidentally got rid of some texttalk to me | my contributions 20:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC) Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Political status of Crimea. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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NoticeeditPlease do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.(KIENGIR (talk) 01:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC)) Adding categorieseditPlease note that there is a requirement that any category added to an article must have evidence supporting that category in the article. It is not sufficient to cite outside sources, you must have confirmation in the article. You've been adding cats without support. Please stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Nationalist parties in LaoseditA tag has been placed on Category:Nationalist parties in Laos requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 16:05, 18 January 2021 (UTC) February 2021editYou currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Albert Speer; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Points to note:
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"Okay than it should be replaced with Christian rather protestant.Fenetrejones (talk) 18:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC) Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussioneditThere is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Binksternet (talk • contribs) 19:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC) "Nationalists" and "Populism"editHello @Fenetrejones: I see that you have been inserting language into several articles and assigning categories labeling subjects as "nationalists." Your edits have been reverted by many other WP users, and yet you are continuing on this crusade. Being a member of the Freedom Caucus does not mean they are a nationalist--nothing in that page says anything about nationalism. Please stop flagrantly assigning these categories to BLP articles without discussing the content in the talk page, please. PerpetuityGrat (talk) 15:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
@User:PerpetuityGrat Okay, I am currently in the midst of writing a response on your talk page.Fenetrejones (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC) Points to note:
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@Bacondrum, I don't know why he is complaining about the populism category when he said fair enough. That category has been used for people long before I even became an editors, examples would be for the articles of Bernie and Trump. Now for the nationalist category, America First (policy) is a type of nationalism, just like Nazism, Juche, Ba'athism and some others. America First (policy) is literally based on the principles of nationalism and the article doesn't hide it. Every self identified Ba'athist is an Arab Nationalist for example, because that is what Ba'athism is. Likewise, every self identified America First Policy Republican is an American Nationalist because that is what America First Policy is. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:16, 18 April 2021 (UTC) And with the Matt Gaetz one, that article was actually already there before I added. I did not realize it at the time of the edit but if you scroll down on the page it is there.Fenetrejones (talk) 22:19, 18 April 2021 (UTC) Nationalism can be a broad term and there are many variants of it. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC) And with pertaining to types of Republicans. There are a handful of types. There are Libertarian types of republicans like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. Rand Paul is included in the category Category:American libertarians, because he embraces libertarian ideology. There are those considered Neo-conservatives, which is particularly used on describing Bush administration members and people like John McCain. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC) Nomination of Effort to Remove Liz Cheney from Chair of House Republican Conference for deletioneditA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Effort to Remove Liz Cheney from Chair of House Republican Conference, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.
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Copy/paste contenteditI would like to request that you attempt to personalize the sections you are pasting in several articles, a la this edit. Duplicating sentences, word-for-word, is incredibly unencyclopedic. You are not a novice editor and you must know this. How is the content you added encyclopedic? --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 18:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC) It was a major vote that made the news. @User:PerpetuityGratFenetrejones (talk) 15:59, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
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Addition of voting records to politicians articles.editFenetrejones, I noticed that you did a mass add of content to articles about politicians. I'm concerned that these additions don't cite sources that establish weight for the additions. As an example, [2], I would agree that the sources you added are reliable for fact but they don't establish any WP:WEIGHT for inclusion. Effectively, we need a RS that establishes that it's significant to the topic of the politician that they voted some way for some specific bill. If no sources are saying why it's significant that Senator X voted for bill Y then we should leave it out of their BLP article. Most of the time how a politician voted on a particular bill is not due. I wanted to get your thoughts on my concern rather than just doing a mass revert of your 18 Jan edits. I understand it would be shocking to see a notice that says so many edits were reverted! Thanks, Springee (talk) 13:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC) Yes, there is a source here for example.[1] as plenty of republicans have changed their stances. Fenetrejones (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Fenetrejones, please hold off on more of these additions since WEIGHT is a concern. I think this should go to NPOVN to figure out how many of these edits should be kept. I don't think you have made a case that these specific bills have DUE weight on all these different BLPs. Springee (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC) I've opened a NPOVN discussion here [3]. Springee (talk) 14:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC) References Secure America’s Borders First ActeditAll these edits you're doing are RECENT and UNDUE with primary sources. Cheers. soibangla (talk) 18:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 2015 vote on Obama executive ordereditHi. While looking at the page for David McKinley I noticed you added a statement about his LGBT rights policy, stating that here it is. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/h326 –– CategorieseditPlease don't add categories which are unsupported by reliable sources, particularly in BLPs. While I agree with you that two of the people who's articles i've undone your edits to are probably far right and nationalists, it isn't supported in the content and not by established reliable sources (at least not enough to make such statements in wiki voice.) PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
I only just noticed this discussion. Fenetrejones, do not ignore this discussion. Praxidicae has some good advice for you. You have tried several times *after* this discussion to label Mary Miller far right in the opening sentence of her biography, with insufficient sourcing: [4], [5], [6]. You need to stop and discuss this on the talk page or you will just end up blocked again. ― Tartan357 Talk 23:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC) User:Praxidicae, User:Tartan357, I'm getting a bit tired of this user just ramming every little NEWSy factoid in here, referenced with primary sources or with local websites. I think they've done this on other articles as well, and it's not helpful. Drmies (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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Listing how politicians voted on a particular billeditFenetrejones, I figured I owned you a talk page explanation since you are about to see a bunch of reverted edits :o ! As a general rule unless there is a notable association between a politician and a bill they voted on we don't list that they voted for/against any particular bill even if there is a RS article that says something like "These are the people who voted for/against X". Certainly if a politician worked to push/oppose a bill and their efforts were noted by RSs then we may include it. But when someone just voted for/against a bill we don't list it in their bio even if the bill itself is significant. I hope that explains why I just reverted a number of your edits and I'm sorry if the number of reverts was a bit of a shock. Springee (talk) 18:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for August 7editAn automated process has detected that when you recently edited Libertarian Republican, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Scott Perry. (Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 09:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC) Deletion discussion about List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriageeditHello, Fenetrejones, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username ComplexRational, and I thank you for your contributions. I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage. You might like to note that such discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. And, our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top. If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.) Complex/Rational 19:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC) Nomination of List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage for deletioneditA discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.
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Your edit here [8] is a WP:COPYVIO - the text "an apparent misunderstanding over video shot for the Pennsylvania Democrat's bill about water contamination at Camp Lejeune," "Members of Congress are prohibited from using official resources to promote commercial endeavors.," is a direct copy-paste from the Axios link.[9] Andre🚐 02:17, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
It doesn't look like you've spent any time on fixing up recent copyvio mistakes. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 06:49, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Andre🚐 02:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC) November 2022editPlease refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in Tennessee. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
November 2022editJust wanted to let you know, FEC filings are not considered reliable/acceptable sources for declaration of candidacy. Although I’m sure all those incumbent representatives will end up running, plenty of candidates file with the FEC for races and end up not running. Hotpotato1234567890 (talk) 21:22, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
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March 2023editYou may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Julie Emerson. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
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With this edit you added the category "Episcopalians from New Jersey", to the BLP Rodney Frelinghuysen. What text in the article supports this? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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Topic ban from categorization imposed by the community
editHello. Per unanimous consensus in this ANI discussion, you have been topic banned (WP:TBAN) indefinitely from categorization. This restriction has been logged at WP:RESTRICT (diff). Please see WP:UNBAN for your appeal options. Thank you. El_C 09:50, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- To clarify, please do not add or change or remove categories at all. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:55, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Fenetrejones, in this edit at 21:00 on March 22 you added a category at John Fetterman, which is a breach of your topic ban. On top of that, the source you added in the previous edit does not support the statement that Fetterman is an atheist. The source instead says in a couple of different ways that "he doesn’t publicly identify with a religious tradition". Writing on that basis that he is an atheist is a BLP violation. I'm on my way to remove it. If you cannot tell the difference between not identifying publicly with a particular religion and being an atheist, in my opinion you should not be editing biographies of living persons at all. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:58, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hard to find fault with Yngvadottir's reasoning. Please be aware that you could be blocked right now for adding a category. Please understand that you may be blocked without further warning if you do so again. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:02, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Block
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Fenetrejones, you cannot violate the above restriction with impunity. Please note that further violations will result in a much longer block, possibly of an indefinite duration. El_C 04:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @El C: It would appear that Fenetrejones has continued to add categories to pages, in spite of his topic ban and recent one week block for violating the topic ban. See this, this, and this for a few recent examples. Marquardtika (talk) 16:19, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Block 2
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Again, it is not feasible for you to violate the above restriction with impunity and without comment. Please reconsider. Next block will be 6 months to a year. El_C 18:57, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- is there any way to repeal it? I did very minimum and in an acceptable territory. Fenetrejones (talk) 19:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Collapsed for emphasis. El_C 18:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Blocked for sockpuppetry
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- that is not an account but if it is my ip, then I accept the block regardless. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:30, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith may the one month block be re-instated please? Fenetrejones (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @User:Curbon7 I haven't been active as of late for real. But if that IP address is similar to mine, please block it, Thank you Fenetrejones (talk) 21:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what's going on here, but sorry, I'm not blocking IPs on request. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- guy thinks an IP was mine. Also will my normal block be re-instated? Fenetrejones (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- You have some connection to ThisithewayGrogu. Until that is explained and the explanation is acceptable by an administrator, the block will not change and you are stuck with the standard offer. If you continue to ping people without providing said explanation, then your TPA may be revoked. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- that one was me Fenetrejones (talk) 00:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- I already said, idk on the random IPS, but that account was my sock. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- that one was me Fenetrejones (talk) 00:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- You have some connection to ThisithewayGrogu. Until that is explained and the explanation is acceptable by an administrator, the block will not change and you are stuck with the standard offer. If you continue to ping people without providing said explanation, then your TPA may be revoked. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- guy thinks an IP was mine. Also will my normal block be re-instated? Fenetrejones (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what's going on here, but sorry, I'm not blocking IPs on request. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @User:Curbon7 I haven't been active as of late for real. But if that IP address is similar to mine, please block it, Thank you Fenetrejones (talk) 21:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith may the one month block be re-instated please? Fenetrejones (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello
edit@Christhegeek517, Mike Braun endorsed Trump.
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1649738828028997632?s=20
-- Fenetrejones (talk) 16:08, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please don't try to get other editors to edit for you by proxy (WP:PROXYING) while you are blocked, as you are putting them potentially in trouble of violating WP:MEAT. Curbon7 (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- okay, My I please have a block of two months? maybe three months? Fenetrejones (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- The current block is indefinite, which means it will last until you convince someone (typically via an WP:unblock request) it's no longer needed. Valereee (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- where may I do that? Fenetrejones (talk) 19:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- On your user talk page, i.e. this page. Curbon7 (talk) 21:12, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- where may I do that? Fenetrejones (talk) 19:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- The current block is indefinite, which means it will last until you convince someone (typically via an WP:unblock request) it's no longer needed. Valereee (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- okay, My I please have a block of two months? maybe three months? Fenetrejones (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please stop socking
editHi Fenetrejones. Please stop sockpuppeting. You are only wasting your own time, as all the edits you make when sockpuppeting will be reverted. If you continue to sockpuppet, it would take a miracle for you to ever be unblocked on this account; you still have a chance, so cease now. Curbon7 (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Are we talking about Special:Contributions/168.16.191.222 or another IP? Binksternet (talk) 20:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, and Floridamanfan. Curbon7 (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not active anymore. I may try to appeal a block much later, but I only use wikipedia now to view. Fenetrejones (talk) 23:37, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am going to confirm that the @Xy jns is not me but a friend from Ontario who I asked before typing this to restore any factual information that might have been undone. However I have not turned around on what I said about taking a hiatus for for now. That I was serious about. Fenetrejones (talk) 14:39, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not active anymore. I may try to appeal a block much later, but I only use wikipedia now to view. Fenetrejones (talk) 23:37, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, and Floridamanfan. Curbon7 (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- How about Corgi Stays? Compare this and this. I noticed the naming of sections as "Big Tech", similar sentence structure, and bare URL citations looked similar. Marquardtika (talk) 18:05, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Having someone edit for you is WP:MEAT and it gets them blocked as well. Do not do this. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I don't even know who @Elli is, so I haven't done anything. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- and I don't know who @User:Corgi Stays is. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I don't even know who @Elli is, so I haven't done anything. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
@user:roysmith
edit@User:RoySmith I haven't been active for a while and I check my notifications and I am confused. those are not my accounts. I have never even seen those accounts until I opened up my page today. what is going on? Fenetrejones (talk) 16:40, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Banned
editThe user of this account, and their many sockpuppets, is hereby banned from English Wikipedia per WP:3X. Girth Summit (blether) 20:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Please read
editFenetrejones (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Dear Wikipedia admins, I apologize for my behavior It was very wrong. I shouldn't have done that. I know you don't think I'm genuine cause of the past and that is understandable, but let me explain. The past year or so, I was suffering major depression and loneliness. On top of that pressure from college was getting to me and I felt like I had to be a doctor for my parents even though I didn't want to be. At one point in November, I was even contemplating suicide. Doing good faith (in the sense I wasn't editing with intentions of vandalism) wikipedia edits was one thing that just let me get away from all the mental disaster going on. It felt good to write detailed articles about foreign relations and when hours of work was suddenly deleted by User:Girth Summit , I was mad. It also doesn't help that I suffer mild autism. I just started getting the much needed mental help that I needed and it started this past week, I have been slightly improving but I still have a ways to go. I am disappointed in my actions and I do genuinely apologize for being an inconvenience to the admins. I am not asking for my block to be lifted, I am asking for a block for about one to two years, I know I will be a mentally changed person by then.
Decline reason:
WP:SO is an option for you after six months of zero edits. A sincere good luck with your mental health help, I hope it proves valuable. Yamla (talk) 01:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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- I would also point to WP:Wikipedia is not therapy. Do note that the standard offer is not a guarantee that you will be unbanned; please prove you can contribute constructively at another Wikimedia project (e.g. Wiktionary, Commons, another language Wikipedia, etc.) and most importantly stop sockpuppeting, and your chance will improve. Curbon7 (talk) 06:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
You got yourself a deal @User:Yamla. Take care!!Fenetrejones (talk) 16:13, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- No editing means no editing - not just 'no creating any more accounts', but also no editing while logged out. You've been editing since you agreed to that 'deal' with Yamla. Girth Summit (blether) 15:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did not see that sorry. and I agree with User:Yamla. I will be gone then. -- Fenetrejones (talk) 17:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- six months from today and let's see what happens after. Fenetrejones (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did not see that sorry. and I agree with User:Yamla. I will be gone then. -- Fenetrejones (talk) 17:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am extremely disappointed with your most recent instance of sockpuppeting, in which you verbally abused the blocking admin. I thought we were at an understanding that you would stop sockpuppeting and contribute constructively elsewhere, and yet barely 3 months after you stated you would stop sockpuppeting you pulled this stunt. Curbon7 (talk) 02:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- That is NOT my alt. I stopped 3 months ago. Do you need me to send proof on twitter for that? I have been entirely inactive on wikipedia. Fenetrejones (talk) 16:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am MaryMillerstan [10] and I haven't been active here at all. Fenetrejones (talk) 16:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I had a hunch that there were two different people caught up here, but the trouble became when you edited using the other person's account a few months ago (or vice versa, I don't remember which it was) which has muddled the various accounts together. Curbon7 (talk) 20:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know what has ben going on as of late to be honest. I haven't been on this site for a while besides to read. I apologize for this inconvenience. I had no idea what was happening right now. I have honored my word. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I had a hunch that there were two different people caught up here, but the trouble became when you edited using the other person's account a few months ago (or vice versa, I don't remember which it was) which has muddled the various accounts together. Curbon7 (talk) 20:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am MaryMillerstan [10] and I haven't been active here at all. Fenetrejones (talk) 16:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- That is NOT my alt. I stopped 3 months ago. Do you need me to send proof on twitter for that? I have been entirely inactive on wikipedia. Fenetrejones (talk) 16:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of List of Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign endorsements for deletion
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