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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.

Technical news

• The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
• The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.

Arbitration

• Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
• The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
• A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.

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• Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.

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CVU Training

Hello!

I would like to learn how to fight vandalism for the greater good of the users of wikipedia!

I am very interested in the subject, it seems very helpful and I like helping others.

Thanks~! --Keanu Venter (talk) 17:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Keanu, thanks for reaching out. It looks like your account is very new - can I suggest that you spend a few months exploring the project and finding out about how things work before jumping into counter-vandalism work? I'd recommend trying the Wikipedia Adventure to get you started. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 18:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Partial case moves

Hey Girth Summit, to answer your question; to achieve the case move of just the current report you tick the "Move case section" box on SPI helper, select the relevant section from the dropdown box, and enter the name of the SPI you wish to move the section to. To enable this option within SPI helper, you'll need to add the line iUnderstandSectionMoves: true, to your SPIhelper options page. Hope that helps. --Jack Frost (talk) 11:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Jack Frost - unfortunately, while I just about understand section moves, I don't seem to understand Javascript. It's not working - have I got the syntax wrong? Girth Summit _(blether) 11:36, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Truthfully it's the blind leading the blind here, but try adding a comma after the "true" on line 2 & 3. --Jack Frost (talk) 11:43, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Aha - yep, that fixed it. Many thanks - that's useful. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I'm a sockpuppet of The King349

Hi! Girth you should know that my password that it's the same as the sockpuppet The King 349 that's because i am the king 349 i did'nt get the time to appologise as the king 349 because i was blocked! I did'nt know that there was a thing called sockpuppeting in Wikipedia if you create many users and for that i'm sorry💚♥️💞 — Preceding signed comment added by Uvalo (talk • contribs) 06:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Is this some kind of socking

Atul2901 who has declared themselves as being WP:PAID per [1] and are subject to WP:COI by actor Jeet (actor) moved Raavan (2022 film) (film acted and produced by Jeet) from draftspace bypassing WP:AFC per [2]. It looks like a possibility that २ तकर पेप्सी are Atul2901 are involved in some kind of sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry since both are involved in creation/submission/movement of articles from draftspace to mainspace of Raavan (2022 film) and Draft:First HelpCare per [3]. Please have a look. 2402:3A80:1C46:D09C:196C:D08C:3137:2E88 (talk) 13:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Girth Summit: The IP is evading a block see [4]— Preceding unsigned comment added by २ तकर पेप्सी (talk • contribs) 14:33, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Blablubbs - does any of this look familiar to you? Best Girth Summit _(blether) 18:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amkgp/Archive – admin shopping + Indian TV + COI/socking allegations + that /32 is usually them. We've been playing whac-a-mole for a while. --Blablubbs (talk) 19:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah - I'd forgotten about them. Worth blocking? I see they've only been on that /64 since the start of the day, presumably they'll move on soon. Girth Summit _(blether) 19:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Amgkp - if you're reading this, you might be better just requesting unblock rather than editing through IPs like this. I can't remember what the original kerfuffle was about, but I seem to think it was something about having user rights removed - I mean, IPs have fewer user rights than anyone else, at least with an unblocked account you'd be extended confirmed. Can't make any promises, but if you refrained from block evasion for a few months WP:SO would apply. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 19:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Girth Summit,

Are you talking about 2402:3A80:1C46:D09C:196C:D08C:3137:2E88, the OP? Because I was contacted about their edits on one of the IP accounts they are rotating through. They have been rather assertive towards other editors, an approach that is not frequently adopted by IP editors. I was asked to do a range block but couldn't find any activity that crossed the line into blockable behavior. However, if they are evading a block, that's another matter. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:32, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's who we're talking about. I'm not too familiar with the case, but if Blablubbs says it's Amgkp I believe it. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) it means a sock was doing this. It's very unbelievable... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 15:59, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Girth Summit,

I was CSD G5 deleting some page creations of sockpuppet Mbis Saravon (SPI case) but was alerted to the fact that you only imposed a 48 hour block so now I'm not sure what their status is and whether I should be restoring some of these pages. An explanation would be welcome! Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:13, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Funnily enough, someone else brought that to my attention at the SPI case. They were already blocked when I blocked them, and I assume the SPI script I used must have defaulted to the current block duration without me noticing (the usual default is indef, which is what I should have selected). I wasn't going to bother re-blocking, since they're globally locked now, but if it's causing confusion of this nature I will do so. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Liz I've reblocked - please action the G5s. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Gotcha, Girth Summit. At this point, it's mostly language templates they just created in the past day or two and they might have already been tagged while I was away from keyboard. But I feel better about checking in with checkusers and getting the go ahead. Thanks for the confirmation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment

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Here they go

Hi there, regarding your warning here, see their own block request here. Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 09:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

It's an odd hill to choose to die on... Girth Summit _(blether) 09:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

ygm  :) SN54129 17:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I wonder if they like their hill or not. ARoseWolf 18:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

As predicted. Bizarre... - DVdm (talk) 09:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Huggle

Hi, I am Itcouldbepossible. I have rollbacker rights on this wikipedia. I have read the manual of huggle, but cannot use it well. Can you teach me properly. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 09:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid not - I don't have bandwidth for that kind of thing at the moment. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

What do you mean? Itcouldbepossible^Talk 09:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I mean I have a limited amount of time available, and it's taken up doing other things. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok, try to help me some other day. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 10:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment

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Sockpupperties

• Special:Diff/1071177518

If you do not like socks or ties as a gift, then enjoy this gift of an English professor from Oman, enabling you to relax from re-gifting socks and ties and expand an article with connections to popular cultural works and famous people.

Uncle G (talk) 09:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Uncle G, that was the most illuminating request for a CU check I've ever come across (assuming that's what it was...). Another drawer-full of sockpupperties has been tucked away neatly, and I have G5ed the draft. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:59, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  • There is so much about socks and ties here, and so little about Special:Diff/1068036376. Uncle G (talk) 10:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Kitchen Knife

Hi there, just for the sake of transparency I've made this similar talk page entry to other admin involved. I've recently noticed that Kitchen Knife has been subject to a block as a result of his behaviour, and I'd like to make you aware (in case you aren't already) that he has been subject numerous complaints of which he has repeatedly failed to engage with in a constructive manner. Every single time he comes up against someone who disagrees with his edits, he hurls abuse at them like nothing else. A good example can be found in his dispute with me here (which also involved another person who he abused). Given his response to post on his talk page, I wonder if there can be an official warning given to him for the way he treats other editors? It really doesn't create a collaborative editing environment. For the record, I am not a perfect editor by any means; but I would like to know how best to deal with an editor who takes every minor editing dispute as a grave personal insult. Alssa1 (talk) 20:31, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

In my experience, the best way to deal with an editor like that is to act towards them in the same way I act towards all other editors - I try to be patient and polite, I explain my position, and I try to look past any rudeness on their part and see whether there is merit in what they are saying. Ultimately though, if they simply won't or can't act respectfully towards others, I would ask an admin to step in and take a look. I haven't looked at the past dispute you linked to - there's probably no use raking over old coals - but if you encounter problems in the future, you can report and remind others of the previous instances. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

CVU training

Hello, I'm a relatively new user with only one year under my belt, I would like to join the CVU because I can patrol more regularly than I can regularly edit. I live in CST time zone so my morning is your evening, and I'm most active in the morning. I am a professional and have moderated on other projects and i wish to help the WMF. -Toast (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi ToastGuard - sorry for the slow response. In truth, I don't do a lot of CVUA training these days, I should probably take my name off the list of trainers. I see that you've reached out to Pahunkat, who would be an excellent choice for you to go with - if they're willing to take you through the course, I'd suggest that you do that. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 16:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment

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WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Jimmy Bower

Your request to delete Jimmy Bower's wikipedia profile page is not correct. He is a famous rock and roll musician and I have made cites on the deletion message board to attest to that fact. If you request to delete Jimmy Bower, then you must request to delete his band mates who are on Wikipedia as well, Kirk Windstein, Pepper Keenan and Phil Anselmo. They are all original members of Down a super metal group from New Orleans. Please remove your request to delete the musician's profile.

Thank you Vlvandoren (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Vlvandoren - welcome to Wikipedia. The above post is the first edit your account has made to Wikipedia - have you previously contributed under a different account, or perhaps without logging into an account? There's nothing wrong with that - I just don't understand the things you said about commenting on the deletion message board, when your account has no other edits.

There are a few things that you need to understand. First, I haven't 'requested' that our article on Jimmy Bower be deleted; I'm a site administrator, I have the technical ability to delete it myself if I am certain that should happen. What I have done is open a discussion about whether or not the article should be deleted, which other people (including yourself) are welcome to contribute to. If there is a consensus that the article should be deleted, it will be; if no such consensus emerges, it won't be.

The main thing you need to look into is our concept of notability. There are many guidelines that cover different aspects of this, but long story short: it all comes down to the available sources. We are an encyclopedia: we produce our articles by summarising available sources of information, but we need them to be high-quality, and independent of the subject. Every article we host needs to have a few sources which are |reliable, independent of the subject, and secondary for it to meet our content guidelines. If no such sources exist, we delete the article. At present, the article contains no sources which tick all the boxes; your best bet to ensuring that we retain the article is to identify better sources, add them to the article, and then leave a note on the AfD discussion asking people to reconsider based on the improved sources.

One last point: I have not reviewed the articles about his bandmates. Perhaps they suffer from similar sourcing issues, I haven't checked. There is a never-ending list of issues that need addressing around here, and a limited number of volunteers like myself who do the work. There is no requirement that I investigate other articles prior to proposing the deletion of one that I have looked into. This essay is worth reading on that subject. Girth Summit _(blether) 20:23, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For the excellent job done here. Celestina007 (talk) 16:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. That name 'ajibola' took me back - on one of my very first offshore projects when I was fresh out of university, I worked closely with a Nigerian engineer called Jimmy Ajibola - a very friendly guy, I learned a lot from him. Wonder where he is now, that was more than twenty years ago now - scary how time flies! Girth Summit _(blether) 17:39, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh boy! I keep forgetting you are familiar with Nigeria, it’s a great name usually associated with the very great Yoruba people of Nigeria. which literally means “One who awakens to prosperity/wealth” As for how they currently are, if you recollect their full government name, trying social media, specifically Facebook, may prove helpful :) Celestina007 (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I try to stay away from Facebook and the like - I like the old fashioned approach of imagining! Honestly, I don't know where people find the time for all the different media that are available nowadays. I am sure that Jimmy is fat and happy somewhere, maybe with a couple of grandchildren on the way, and a flash car he can't quite afford sitting on the driveway - he doesn't need a Scottish geophysicist he can't remember intruding. More power to him! Girth Summit _(blether) 22:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Hahahahaha, oh I understand you, I’m not a social media fan myself but own accounts in order for off wiki spam related activity or optimize them for retrieving data which I forward to Arbcom when I want private investigation be carried out. I use SM for getting breaking news also, asides that I’m not a fan of SM myself, I guess at a certain age one begins to find such things as trivial or trifling. Celestina007 (talk) 12:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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Why have you reverted my edits?

You have reverted several edits on Triforce and you have not explained why? Fieryninja (talk) 08:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

No problem :) Fieryninja (talk) 08:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

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[5] SN54129 12:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Sheesh. Indeffed - you shouldn't need a warning template or a link to WP:NPA in order to know that that sort of thing isn't acceptable. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Can you perform a chcekuser

Can you perform a checkuser on me please. User:2402:3a80:1a46:6454:71a2:8cbb:2547:fcd7 comment [6]. Thank you. ... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 14:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

We don't use the CU tool on request, or to publicly connect IPs to accounts. What is this about anyway? Girth Summit _(blether) 14:19, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

A IP wants to prove that article I'm improving on the userpage is promotional and manymore and the IP (who is a Sockpuppet) commented that after checkussr the ip will not interfere on my edit. Please have a look at Talk:Ayan Nayak. ... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 14:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

So, that led me back to this discussion with Anachronist. I don't see the necessary paid editor disclosure on your talk page - what's the story? Girth Summit _(blether) 14:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I explained everything on my talk page for removing the paid editing from my talk page. Now I want some peace to improve the sandbox draft without hassle and then submit it for AFC reviewing. Thanks ... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 14:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

The user page history shows where the paid editing notice was added, and then removed when this user stopped working for Zee TV. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes ... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 15:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) २ तकर पेप्सी, so let me see if I follow this correctly, you were a paid employee for Zee5 and heavily edited an article, Rishton Ka Manjha (TV series), and that was the need for the Paid editor notice on your user page. The account that created that article was found to be a sock and was blocked. You stated the article was created and your job is done. I assume that means that you are no longer employed with Zee5, not that your job was to ensure that the article was created and that is done. Upon the status change, no longer being an employee of Zee5, you removed the paid editor notice. If I am correct that all makes sense. The question then becomes, does Ayan Nayak, the subject of the article being created in your sandbox, have any ties to Zee5? If not then it appears nothing else has relevance. Editing about a subject you happen to like does not meet Wikipedia's definition of a conflict of interest. You must have direct ties to the subject or indirect ties by way of a mutual interest, such as your former employer, Zee5. The fact you are not employed by Zee5 any longer does not remove the COI status so long as you edit on subjects related to Zee5, even if indirectly. Also there is such a thing as unpaid editing. If you have been asked by a third party to create an article but do not receive compensation for it then that is still a conflict of interest. These are just some things to keep in mind. They may apply or may not apply. --ARoseWolf 16:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@ARoseWolf:No one asked me to create articles (but maybe Zee has something Ayan all artist have some connections) but not with me. ... २ तकरपेप्सी _talk 17:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

FYI

They are them. DanCherek (talk) 18:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Not a case I'm super-familiar with, but I remember finding a whole raft of their sleepers a couple of months back. I'm cooking dinner now, if you want to raise an SPI case I'll take a look later unless someone else gets to it first. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Racist casteist slurs

Please hide these vandal edits. Racist casteist denigrating stuff. Venkat TL (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what it means and I doubt I need to. The blocked editors contribution list needs purging, I think Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 17:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Indeed. All 4 Venkat TL (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL I have just used one of thew IRC channels to report this. They have now been suppressed. Thank you to the suppressing admin Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 17:56, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Venkat TL, Timtrent - apologies for the slow response, I've had family visiting and haven't logged in for a couple of days. I see that some revdels have been performed - hope that all is sorted now? Sorry again for the delay. Girth Summit _(blether) 23:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Please do not ever feel the need to be online. We waited, and after an acceptable and polite length of time, I acted via IRC

Family comes first. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 18:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Its alright GS. It was immediately reverted and Fiddle did the rest. Thanks for following up. Venkat TL (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

A user you blocked has returned and he/she is vandalising articles

He/she is sticking to just 2-3 articles. No positive edit whatsoever. You blocked the user Goalandgoal (talk · contribs) in december, for sockpuppetry. I reported the user on Administrator intervention against vandalism but nothing happened. Can you please take a look? Dante4786 (talk) 00:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi - seems like someone else handled this already. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 06:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

ReferenceSF

Hi, I just blocked ReferenceSF for socking, but I haven't tagged because I'm not sure who the master is. Could be NeverTry4Me who was the most closely involved in the Katherine Delmar Burke School, but it could also be GeezGod screwing around again. Although less likely, it could also be Twsabin who was peripherally involved. Anyway, a check seems warranted and would be useful...if you're willing. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Bbb23 ReferenceSF is confirmed to Factsforsure44. They don't look much like like NT4M/GG, or Twsabin. Hope that's helpful. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Very helpful, at least this time it was the most obvious candidate (who I didn't even mention). Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Actually, that's not quite right. When I said NeverTry4Me, I misspoke - I meant to say Factsforsure44 as the most obvious. I'm a bit tired/preoccupied this morning.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, they can sort of blend into each other a bit. (Also - morning? Heh, I always imagined you were in France, based on the photo you used to have on your userpage. I guess I need to look at people's timecards more often...) Girth Summit _(blether) 19:47, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I love France, but I live in the state of Washington.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I spent a few days in Seattle giving a training course way back when - nice city, I enjoyed my visit. Beautiful scenery. Girth Summit _(blether) 20:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Seattle has changed a lot and not for the better. It's congested, polarized economically, and constant construction building expensive high-rise condominiums. I live in a rural area west of Seattle - very beautiful.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

It must have been back in like 2008 or something I was there. A lot of changes since then I'm sure. I remember being tickled that in the drawer in my hotel room, alongside the Gideon's bible, there was a copy of the Karma Sutra. Not much use to me, a lonely business traveller, but it raised a smile. The company I was visiting was in the coast, with a big glass wall looking out over the water. I just got a really positive vibe while I was there, it stayed with me (and I used to travel a lot...). Girth Summit _(blether) 21:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

in the coast? Another funny preposition to American ears; we say "on the coast". I once visited one of the tallest buildings in Seattle, also on business, and the company occupied one or two of the top floors (can't remember). The view was 365 degrees and stunning, although it made me a bit nervous as I'm acrophobic and nervous about earthquakes.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Oops - yes, we say 'on the coast' too, but my 'typing on a smartphone' skills are weak! Girth Summit _(blether) 22:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Heh, I don't use a smartphone to edit Wikipedia; in fact, I don't have a smartphone. :-) Occasionally, I edit on a tablet without a physical keyboard, though, and I find it frustrating, if not painful. The vast majority of my edits are on an old-fashioned PC, or as you would missay, in an old-fashioned PC. :P --Bbb23 (talk) 23:24, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

SeanM1997

Hey, what's your opinion on blocking SeanMoulton1997 and restricting SeanM1997 to that one account? -- TNT (talk • she/her) 00:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Last time I looked at it, I got the impression that they weren't using the accounts improperly. They haven't declared the connection between them on their user pages, but the usernames are so similar that I don't believe it is someone trying to pass themselves off as two different people. I concluded that a block would be heavy-handed, if no actual disruption was occurring; my opinion would change if there was evidence that they had been acting improperly with them. Girth Summit _(blether) 06:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

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• A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
• A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.

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• The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
• Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
• The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)

Arbitration

• Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.

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• The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
• Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
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Self trout, I need your assistance in correctly rectifying this.

See this I erroneously made a spelling error when filing a case and I was was wondering how to reciting things rather than “Oneboygreen” I opened it under “OneBoyGreen” is there a manner in which you can help correctly rectify this? The SPI case page looks a mess. Major self trout right there. I need all the help I can get hey @GeneralNotability can you also assist Girth & I in remedying this? Please all help is welcome. Celestina007 (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Aye don’t worry lovelies, I just moved the page accordingly . Celestina007 (talk) 17:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

CVU Training

Hi, sorry for interruption.

I'm Pavlov2, a rollback from zhwiki, and recently decided to mainly focus on enwiki. However, the vandalism here seemed greatly different from these in Chinese community and I'm so poor of recognizing them. Especially the sockpuppets and sockpuppeters.

If permitted, could I learn some skills and technique from your training?

Best regards

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DYK for Castle Ten Berghe

On 4 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Castle Ten Berghe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Castle Ten Berghe, a manor house built during the 13th century, is now run as a bed and breakfast with a neo-Gothic architectural style? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Castle Ten Berghe. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Castle Ten Berghe), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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I deleted Omar abas...

@Girth Summit, CentreLeftRight, and Whats my names: Hi all. Long version: I thought I had done the required due diligence before speedily deleted "Omar abas" (without the capitalisation of his family name). With my magical sysop spectacles on, I can see there has never been an en.wp of the exact name of Omar Abas. Will shortly undo my deletion, and move it to that article name. Short version: Oops, my mistake. Shirt58 (talk) 09:50, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. As I said at Shirt58's talk page, I did a quick check for sources when looking at the speedy tag, and found this source indicating that the person did at least exist. We should certainly not be asserting his age as fact based on this source (the Beeb describes them as 'claims', and notes that he had no birth certificate), and it's possible of course that he is not notable (more sources would be needed to establish notability), but that should be decided at AfD. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:59, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Weareme234

I've been staring at this new user's edits for a very long time (BangsMetala), and I see many similarities with the above socks. The account was created after the last check in the archive. Given all the new articles they've created, they are clearly not a new user. There is intersection in both articles and types of articles (Economy of...). They edit only with the Visual editor. They rarely use edit summaries. They promote Indian industry "sectors". They reorganize articles. However, they talk to other editors, which does not seem typical of this sock farm, and the direct intersection is not as high as I would like. You're the last checkuser in the archive; what do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:17, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree.  Confirmed, along with a couple of zero-edit sleepers. I'll do a proforma SPI... Girth Summit _(blether) 17:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks much. This will also allow me (others) to expand the behavioral similarities of this sock farm.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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User Princepratap1234

This IP 122.163.201.224 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is of Princepratap1234 as the IP got blocked a few months ago for the same behavior i.e. harassment and block evasion. Now, as you know, the editor had harassed me a few days back by using my personal details. And if you have a look at this IP's edit history, you'll see and observe that IP was trying to nominate the college for deletion but he didn't and then all of a sudden a fellow user namely Pri2000 (who also used to get harassed by him but has now flipped her side [7] [8]) gets this done and the IP votes for the same. This all and all revolves around this blocked user evading his block through different means and indirectly has made this user Pri2000 his sock. Do you think you can or anyway I can do something about it? ManaliJain (talk) 03:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I've warned that editor about WP:PROXYING, and have blocked the IP temporarily. That's probably all I can do at the moment. As for the AfD, it is certainly the case that the article is deficient in reliable sources - there's a single source, which just confirms that the institution exists. Your best bet, if you want the article to be retained, is to find a couple of reliable sources that give it in-depth coverage, and add them to the article. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 06:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! ManaliJain (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain a similar named new user is editing Bhuvan Bam. See Special:Contributions/Prince1230 Venkat TL (talk) 07:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I can't say whether that's the same person - could be, or might a Joe job. Either way, they're already blocked as a VOA. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

They were not blocked when I messaged. Did not last long at all. Thanks for looking into and reply. Venkat TL (talk) 09:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes Venkat TL, even I was suspicious of that account and had reported the user too, anyways they're blocked now. ManaliJain (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey @Girth Summit: another one- 27.57.73.15 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). ManaliJain (talk) 11:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: new ones: 110.226.215.221 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) 223.189.236.203 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). ManaliJain (talk) 13:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

How tiresome. Perhaps they will get bored after a while and move on. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 13:47, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Though I've disabled notifications but the person's other activities triggers. And now, it's not about the edits but the edit summaries [9]. ManaliJain (talk) 07:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

ManaliJain you may want to consider reporting this kind of thing on the IRC admin channel for a faster response - I'm not always able to react quickly, but there are usually some admins active on IRC regardless of the time of day. Primefac - see the edit summary from Special:Contributions/2409:4063:4D1B:48A5:EA9F:40F6:1B82:150A that I revdelled, that too may warrant suppression. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 10:32, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Suppressed, and I agree that emailing OS or going to IRC is faster than asking for an RD from an admin. Primefac (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up and actual help! ManaliJain (talk) 08:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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User agent

Hey! I noticed that when responding to SPI cases as a CU, you occasionally make mention of a "User agent". What exactly is a user agent? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:52, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

See user agent. Girth Summit _(blether) 06:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Spot News again

Regarding WP:Sockpuppet investigations/720vikas/Archive, a user account created less than 2 hours back has requested the restoration of Spot News 18. Also pinging Blablubbs, Mz7 and TheSandDoctor. Jay (talk) 10:36, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

They are  Confirmed to the master. I have blocked, and will request global lock. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Mixels

Hey, Girth - I don't know enough about that TV series to be productive in a discussion. I effected the redirect in an effort to get a discussion going on the TP, and hopefully avoid any further admin action. Just sayin'....Atsme 💬 📧 13:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd never heard of it before today. I noticed your redirect, which I think was a perfectly sensible choice, that really was a Fandom-level list. I should have walked away at that point, but once I'd skimmed the first paragraph I just couldn't help myself... Girth Summit _(blether) 13:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

User:**sammy** Dawson.

Isn't this user the sockmaster, and not a sockpuppeteer? Noticed the sock tag... Severestorm28 12:41, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Yup, must have clicked to wrong option in the script. Thanks. Girth Summit _(blether) 21:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Rejuvenate WikiProject Skepticism

Hello - my name is Susan Gerbic (Sgerbic) and I'm writing to you because at some point you joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism. This might have been months ago - or even years ago. With the best of intentions the project was created years ago, and sadly like many WikiProjects has started to go dormant. A group of us are attempting to revitalize the Skepticism project, already we have begun to clean up the main page and I've just redone the participant page. No one is in charge of this project, it is member directed, which might have been the reason it almost went dormant. We are attempting to bring back conversations on the talk page and have two subprojects as well, in the hopes that it might spark involvement and a way of getting to know each other better. One was created several years ago but is very well organized and a lot of progress was made, Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism/Skeptical organisations in Europe. The other I created a couple weeks ago, it is very simple and has a silly name Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism/Skepticism Stub Sub-Project Project (SSSPP). This sub-project runs from March 1 to June 1, 2022. We are attempting to rewrite skepticism stubs and add them to this list. As you can see we have already made progress.

The reason I'm writing to you now is because we would love to have you come back to the project and become involved, either by working on one of the sub-projects, proposing your own (and managing it), or just hanging out on the talk page getting to know the other editors and maybe donate some of your wisdom to some of the conversations. As I said, no one is in charge, so if you have something in mind you would like to see done, please suggest it on the talk page and hopefully others will agree. Please add the project to your watchlist, update your personal user page showing you are a proud member of WikiProject Skepticism. And DIVE in, this is what the work list looks like [10] frightening at first glance, but we have already started chipping away at it.

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism/Participants page has gone though a giant change - you may want to update your information. And of course if this project no longer interests you, please remove your name from the participant list, we would hate to see you go, but completely understand.

Thank you for your time, I hope to edit with you in the future.Sgerbic (talk) 07:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

St Mark's Basilica

Greetings from Venice. You were very helpful in getting the Biblioteca Marciana to FA status, and I thank you again. I currently have another FAC, St Mark's Basilica, and am hoping that you might have time and interest to take a look. At any rate, I hope you are well.Venicescapes (talk) 07:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Venicescapes, yes I'd seen that that was up for FAC. I'd hoped to find time to review it in the past few days, but have been busy with RL stuff (visiting relatives, getting ready for the return to school after half term...). I will try to look in on it over the next few days if possible. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 17:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• I hope that all is well. I was wondering if you might have a few moments to take a look at the FA nomination. It's running into trouble. But there seem to be broader issues involved. I'd be very grateful for any help.Venicescapes (talk) 08:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

  I apologise - I don't like saying that I'll do something, and never finding the time to get around to it. This has been there at the back of my mind all this time, but given the length of the article, I confess that I've been daunted by the amount of time necessary to review it properly. I have not yet found that time, so I'll offer you a couple of thoughts in lieu of a proper review:

  • First, it's an amazing, awesome, stonkingly good article. Whether it meets the specific criteria for FA is a separate question, but the work you have done there warms my heart. I doff my cap.
  • I should put my cards on the table: Gog the Mild was my FA mentor. I would not automatically agree with his position, of course, but I see that he is opposing and I have a great regard for his experience in this area. My advice to you at this point would be to reach out to him and ask about possible ways forward. He is an excellent mentor, and very supportive.

  . Girth Summit _(blether) 22:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you for getting back to me and for your frankness. I understand that it puts you in a difficult position. Thanks also for the kind words about the article. If you need anything in the future, let me know. My best wishes.Venicescapes (talk) 08:33, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

SobySobea9

• SobySobea9 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Hi, Girth! Hope all is well. Glad to see someone blocked SobySobea9 before I could even report the email they sent me. Did you mean to set the block for only 31 hours, though?

Oh... As I was writing this they were locked, but still, thought I'd let you know, if you're the type who likes to have local indefs parallel to global locks. If not, ignore this. :) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 17:48, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I meant it to be indef - must have ticked the wrong Twinkle box. I requested the lock too, so I guess that makes the block moot, but I will change the expiry just to make it clear. I'm guessing your e-mail was similar to mine. Bit of an odd one - I can't adhere to their request, since I have no idea know who they are :/ Girth Summit _(blether) 17:51, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I believe that's Glam-girlz (SPI), just from the username and the writing style of the brief snippet I read of the email. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 18:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, someone else mentioned that to me. Certainly matches their style of edit summary. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:32, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the CVUA

I was wondering why you stopped taking students for the CVUA and if you actually would consider taking me as a student as I believe the others are too far away from my timezone and I recently noticed that the other person I had asked recently in UTC is not usually on at the times I am which would conflict with a lot of things. SkyeWolf369 (talk) 18:20, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I wish to join the CVUA because of the fact that I wish to primarily do Anti-Vandalism Edits on Wikipedia. I just thought I should add this to clarify. SkyeWolf369 (talk) 18:33, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

To be honest, I just don't have the time at the moment - I'm busy in other areas of the project. I should probably take my name off the list of trainers for the time being - I might come back to it in the future, but at the moment my interests lie elsewhere, sorry. Here's some reading for you however, which would help you get started:

• WP:Vandalism - how to identify what is, and is not, vandalism
• WP:Twinkle - a very useful tool for dealing with it when you find it.
• WP:Edit warring - don't allow yourself to get drawn into an edit war unless you are very confident that edits are vandalism (not just a newb who doesn't know what they're doing).
• WP:BITE - don't bite the newcomers!
• WP:AGF - if in doubt, assume they're not vandals, and offer friendly advice rather than templated warnings.
• WP:DENY - if you are confident that someone is a vandal, revert them, and report them at WP:AIV using Twinkle if they keep doing it. Don't engage with them, especially not if they become abusive - they're often just looking for attention.

Hope that's helpful. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for undoing my goof!

...over at AN/I. Not quite sure how that happened. Have a nice day! Dumuzid (talk) 16:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

No worries - I'm sure it was an edit-conflict type deal, I'm not quite sure yet how reliable the 'reply links' stuff is with ECs. Girth Summit _(blether) 16:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

NeosVR Edit

I saw that you said that Google Docs are not great secondary sources, however its the only source that exsists outside of screenshots and discord DMs. The CEO has used googledocs for his official legal statment and is actually a primary source, as it comes from the CEO himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.23.190.3 (talk) 09:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

If primary sources in Google Docs and legal documents are the only sources available for content, then that content has no place in one of our articles. We summarise what published, reliable sources say about any subject - we aren't here to document breaking news, or to make scandals public. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Ddum5347

IamKayden, who just voted at the RfA. In addition to the editing of a wrestler article, Kayden probably refers to Kayden Carter. And of course the first edit was to create a blank userpage. There's not enough edits yet for me to be sure, though, so I'm requesting a check. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

There's nothing technical that I can see to connect it unambiguously to Ddum5347; it is, however, confirmed to Thatoneguylol101. Blocked and tagged. Girth Summit _(blether) 06:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Never heard of them - thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Regarding an edit on propaganda

Regarding counter radicalisation bots the following links are not primary sources, its from a book and research papers.Can you state more clearly why it cannot be included? L1 1L2L3 --Katya72918 (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

OK, so as I outlined in my edit summary, part of the reason why I reverted your addition was because it was added to the lead of the article (the bit above the table of contents), but not into the body of the text. The purpose of the lead is to summarise the body of the article - so, it follows that nothing should be in the lead unless it is also mentioned in the body of the text. There is more about this at MOS:LEAD. I considered moving the text that you added to the body of the article, rather than removing it; however, the content you added was about stuff that RAND corporation had done, and the only source you cited was RAND corporation's own website. Generally speaking, if we are going to write about stuff that an organisation does, we use sources other than the organisation itself. WP:IS and WP:DUE are worth reading on these points. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Heanor SPI

Thank you for your swift work at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Heanor. I appreciate it. Given that it seems that something more extensive is going on here, I tried to think back about previous encounters with sockpuppets in this topic area. While I don't have any real evidence, nor the time for a thorough investigation now, I think a good potential lead for the 'ultimate' master of this sockfarm might be Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dolyn/Archive. The sock of Dolyn that I specifically encountered was Zotur (talk · contribs). A cursory glance at the editor interaction utility suggests the accounts may well be connected. RGloucester — ☎ 17:38, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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Such a shame this editor seems to have no intention of actually working collaboratively. I offered them a sort of olive branch earlier, but they just blanked their talk page. – PeeJay 16:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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Suspect unusual user

Hi @Girth Summit:, First of all, sorry for my mistake which I have done while reporting Nhjkna as a sock. I suspect that this IP user 2409:4070:430b:7999:e8e0:5b8d:dec6:1fee and above user were a same user because after the immediate blocked by you this IP user has edit same pages which is related to Indian Premier League. Thank you! Fade258 (talk) 10:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Not a problem about the case, it's reasonably easy to fix. The checkuser policy prohibits me from publicly connecting named accounts to IP addresses; if it's as obvious as that, can I ask that you report them at WP:AIV and another admin will handle it? Thanks Girth Summit _(blether) 10:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Sock investigation

Hello. I see that your active at investigating sock puppets. I have no clue how file an investigation. So I was wondering if you could look into 91.193.178.64 for me. They only a few edits and seem to be to well versed in Wikipedia's process for the amount of edits they have. Also, in an ANI complaint they said that they would normally just stay away from Wikipedia for a few days and ignore any excessive response, which seems like a weird comment by someone that only has 3 edits that were all in the same day. Unfortunately I don't have any idea who they would be a sock of, but I think check user can figure it out. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

It's very common for people's IP addresses to change regularly. I'm sure this person has edited before, but it will have been through a different IP - either as part of the same range (91.193.178.64/22), or a different one. That isn't against any policy - people are allowed to edit without creating an account, and even if you have an account, you're allowed to edit without logging in - unless you are doing it for nefarious purposes, like evading scrutiny or trying to give the appearance of being multiple people in a discussion. This person is obviously not new, but for an SPI to go anywhere you would need to have an idea of who you think it is, so we have someone to compare it against. For me to run the CU tool, policy requires me to have some grounds for suspicion that someone has engaged in abusive sockpuppetry - I don't know how I would justify running it against that IP at present. Evidence that someone isn't new =/= evidence that someone is being abusive. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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Deletion

Dear Girth, Kindly let me know the reason, Why you deleted my page of USER ANUBHAV MOHANDAS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anubhav Mohandas (talk • contribs) 18:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Your page was not compliant with the guidelines at WP:UP. User pages are a great way to tell other Wikipedia editors a bit about your interests and the sort of editing you do; they aren't places to promote your business or advertise your professional services. It's fine to say that you are an IT professional or something like that (just like mine says that I'm a teacher), but when you get into talking about your great services and prices, that's not unacceptable. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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Interesting set of articles

Please would you run your best jaundiced eye over:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alberto_Surra&action=history
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerard_Riu&action=history
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diogo_Moreira&action=history
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Matteo_Bertelle&action=history
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joshua_Whatley&action=history

These all appeared in short order together in Category:Pending AfC submissions in article space, from which they will doubtless have been removed by editors de-tagging them

It's too late at night here for me to work out even the simplest things like notability, but there is an edit pattern that is giving me twitchy antennae whether those folk are notable or not. I'm primarily interested in whether my antennae ought to be twitching or whether it is the lateness of the hour. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

The user who has moved these drafts has been reported already at SPI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rinda Fergiawan. – NJD-DE (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

@Njd-de I'm grateful. I was too tired to be more than suspicious yesterday. While there is never deadline and filing this morning would have been useful too, that someone else filed yesterday has been helpful. If I'd filed last night I would have broadened the net too widely 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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Unsettled ANI

Hi. Thanks for looking at this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_editing_and_subtle_vandalism Given that you have looked, other admins tend to leave it as it's being dealt with. It's been several days now so I wonder if I could ask you to address it. Thanks.NEDOCHAN (talk) 08:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm on a trip at the moment, only online occasionally for the next couple of days. I've asked them to expand on their line of thinking. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:50, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks.NEDOCHAN (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Edit on Wikipedia Page

Why is wikipedia encouraging blatant cheryypicking.You source on white "people are not dying" states "white people are not dying by genocide".There is a difference.

I can write "pandas are not dying by hunting", does that mean pandas are not dying or diminishing in numbers at all? Katya72918 (talk) 15:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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John Halkerston

Was wondering if you have any information on the above of in your reference books. HES lists what I assume is his lifespan here, but then page 21 of a work by David Bowler says he was working at Trinity College Church in Edinburgh in the 1460s, when he was still a child. And by working, I mean he held a position, not that he was sweeping the floors. Seasider53 (talk) 12:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Hmm. That does look like a lifespan doesn't it? But I agree that it's unlikely he'd have been working there before the age of ten. I checked the Dictionary of Scottish Architects, but they don't have an entry for him. Might the date range actually be the dates over which the original building was constructed? I know it's a big range, but mediaeval churches often got built in stages and took decades or even centuries to complete. Beverley Minster is a particularly interesting one to visit - it starts out in the Early English Gothic style at its east end, grades into Decorated in the middle, and by the time the west end was completed it's Perpendicular. Let me do bit of digging... Girth Summit _(blether) 12:54, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes - take a look at Trinity_College_Kirk#Early_history - it seems that it was started in 1460, and a contract was signed in 1531 for it to be completed (although it actually wasn't finished at that point). So the birth date for Halkerston remains a mystery... Girth Summit _(blether) 12:58, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Roger. Good sleuthing (or, at least, better than my own). Seasider53 (talk) 13:09, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

IP edits

Hi, this is a general question regarding IPs in India. Is it possible for 2 IPs of an IP user from same ISP to geo-locate to 2 far off places? like 3000 km apart? Venkat TL (talk) 16:08, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't pretend to have in in-depth knowledge of how IP addresses are assigned, in India or in anywhere else. In my experience, I'd suggest that geolocating to the same place is one possible sign that two IPs are being used by the same person, but geolocating to different places is not definite proof that they are not being used by the same person. Does that make sense? Girth Summit _(blether) 17:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the response answers my question. Until now I believed that the geo-location was reliable for few kilometers in the same city. Now I know that the city information may not be reliable. Venkat TL (talk) 18:01, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I spent part of this afternoon trying to sniff out socks belonging to someone whose IPs geolocated to places including New Zealand, India, the US and South Africa - all within a few days. Geolocations are useful, but for various reasons, they're not reliable. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Wow. Understood. Venkat TL (talk) 18:55, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Jellywings19 SPI may be going cross-wiki

I decided to alert the id.wiki admins to the situation with User:Jellywings19. They, and more recently, their socks, are quite active over there, on the same topics, and they don't seem to be behaving any differently (still never uses any sort of edit summary for instance). I asked for one of their admins who is familiar with English to take a look at the SPI page over here. I've asked them to let me know if they find issues with their editing in id.wiki. I suppose that the result of that would be that any new socks will be getting globally locked as well. Is there some way that this can be noted on the SPI page when the time comes? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 13:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes - there's a flag we add to cross wiki cases to indicate that locks should be requested. Don't add it yourself, that's a clerk's job - if you note in a report that other socks are globally locked, a clerk will consider whether to add the flag to the case. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Rafael HP

Hi Girth Summit. Thanks for your addressing of the ANI of the editor in question, but I'm afraid there are problems. Rafael has now started warring over an old issue which has even been discussed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fedor_Emelianenko

Since I opened the ANI, they have made the same edit four times.

[[11]] [[12]] [[13]] [[14]]

There is no doubt in my mind that this is payback for my opening the ANI, and I think there is a bit of HOUND in here, as well. Please can you address as the disruption looks like escalating, not diminishing. NEDOCHAN (talk) 12:40, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes this is totally payback for opening the ANI, it's not like we had a proper discussion on this talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quinton_Jackson#vs._Fedor_Emelianenko_at_Bellator_237 about the exact same edit. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 12:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Is this comment a sarcastic joke, RafaelHP? I warn you that sarcasm does not come across well in a text-only environment; my cursor hovered over the 'block' button there, because you seem to be admitting to doing something as revenge for something someone else did, which would not be appropriate. Please explain yourself. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:57, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes it is a joke; he keeps asking for consensus and discussion, despiteone already having taken place and a third editor being involved. Apology for the confusion. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 13:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

I think WP:DEADHORSE applies for this situation. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 13:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Go back to the talk page; ping the other editor who was involved in the discussion from January if you like. Start an RfC if you want to get wider participation. Get agreement, and once you have it, then make the change. Edit warring will solve nothing. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Will do. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 13:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

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Regarding suffragettes

Kia ora,

I just wanted to touch base about the suffragette/suffragist edit on the Kate Sheppard page. I realise I didn't explain my change when first submitting it. The reason I believe suffragist is more appropriate than suffragette is because suffragette is used specifically to describe suffrage in the UK and US after first attempts at enfranchisement failed. This is not the case in New Zealand where enfranchisement was achieved fairly quickly. Suffragists and Suffragettes are also slightly different ideologies, with Suffragettes being the more militant of the two. While suffrage in New Zealand was very well-organized it never became violent, as the term Suffragette suggests. That's why I'm pretty sure New Zealand suffrage supporters should only be described as Suffragists. https://www.britannica.com/video/226776/difference-suffragist-suffragette

Cheers. Caligulady (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm aware of the distinction between suffragists and suffragettes, at least in the context of British history. As always, we are guided by how the sources describe people: if scholarly sources describe her as a suffragette, that's the way we need to describe her, although if there is disagreement over the use of that term we can reflect that. I don't have access to the offline source supporting the assertion that you modified; I would have assumed that it would have been checked during the article's FA review in 2018, but I can't be certain of that, so I've posted on the talk page of the article to see what other people think. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 10:35, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Question about Recent Changes Patrol

(My mentor adopter recommended that if I have any questions about vandalism cases, I ask at the CVU. I checked the talkpage and it didn't seem super busy, so I figured asking a contributor directly might work better.) I have encountered some cases where in general I think edits might be vandalism, but could possibly be constructive (such as here – several changes to be sure, but could be trying to clarify & update). The edit's since been reverted by another editor, but I was wondering – if the edits could be constructive, but the editor is not communicating reasons for the changes, etc., should I still go through the four warnings/AIV, since the editor might be trying to make helpful changes? Also, in ambiguous cases, how does 3RR apply? Perfect4th (talk) 18:08, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

In ambiguous cases, don't revert it as vandalism (and I disagree with the revert that the other editor used there - that example you gave is not obvious vandalism in my book). In some cases it's better to use a different kind of warning, like 'test edit' or 'unsourced content', but in cases like that one I'd be more inclined to revert using an edit summary (along the lines of 'unclear how this is an improvement - please explain on talk'), and drop a note at the editor's talk page to ask what they were trying to achieve. It doesn't look constructive on the face of it - what were all those 'nowiki' tags supposed to be doing, why were they removing refs, etc - but it's not always easy to be sure. If in doubt, either leave it for someone else, or revert politely and with an edit summary.

WP:3RRNO applies only to obvious vandalism, BLP violations and the like. For ambiguous stuff, get other eyes on it by posting at an appropriate noticeboard - don't be tempted to repeatedly revert if you're not sure, or you'll end up getting yourself blocked for edit warring (which will feel doubly unfair because you were only trying to help!). Best Girth Summit _(blether) 18:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I understand now. Many thanks for your help! Perfect4th (talk) 18:36, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi from Clovermoss

It's nice to know my ping was welcome. :) I've been busy with my post-secondary studies and work, so I haven't been editing Wikipedia as much. I've also had some stressful things going on in my life, but I have hope that things are going to take a turn for the better soon. Anyways, thanks for your input. You're the first person I think of when it comes to being an expert on counter-vandalism and I wanted to make sure that my interpretation of things was still on the right track since it's been awhile. Clovermoss (talk) 19:20, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about the stress - there's too much of that going around at the moment, but I'm glad to hear that you're hopeful of brighter horizons. Seriously, seeing your ping there brought a smile to my face - I'd noticed that you were gone for much of last year, and hadn't noticed that you'd come back; this place is better with you around, so I'm putting that in the 'good things that happened to me today' box. :) Girth Summit _(blether) 22:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hi GS - hope you are well. For info, and incase you missed my ping, I've added some more evidence at this SPI report. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Yep, saw it - I was taking a look, but Callanecc acted before I'd finished. Both now blocked. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:14, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Yuriy Sedykh

Too bad the two main disputants never opined. We'll see what happens when page protection expires today. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:29, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Yep - all too willing to mash the revert button, but engaging in actual discussion takes time and effort. Oh well. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

One is unhappy that changes were hastily made that they disagree with. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ meh. (sigh) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:44, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

New Prince Of Roblox sock?

Girth, on April 19, you CU-blocked AssabahBugs, whom I had previously left a message regarding adding Indic scripts to numerous articles, as a sock of Prince Of Roblox. On April 22, the account Nololl suddenly became re-active and is on a similar spree [15], [16], [17]. Could you check if this too is a Prince of Roblox sock? Let me know if you'd prefer that I open a formal SPI. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 03:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Abecedare. The edits and the timing are suspicious, so I took a look; I'd probably call this  Possible - I can't make a purely technical link to previous socks, so behavioural investigation would be needed to make the connection. So yeah, a proper SPI I'm afraid. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I'll just AGF and treat them as as a regular editor for now, informing them of the relevant guidelines. Will file an SPI if future edits are problematic and resemble the previous socks'. Abecedare (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

My talk

Thanks, but not needed, I am only worried about the clear threat (and actual attempts) to hijack my account. Slatersteven (talk) 14:04, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Want me to unprotect? Hijacking won't work, if you've got a strong password. People do it to me quite regularly, just ignore it. Girth Summit _(blether) 14:07, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Surprise surprise, I've just had multiple attempts to access my account. Meh - I wish them luck guessing it. Perhaps if they have an infinite cage of monkeys lying around somewhere... Girth Summit _(blether) 21:38, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry, they'll be too busy trying to write complete Shakespeare's works first. (talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) 08:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Caching

I think that's the issue, anyway. Might you know how to have redlinks that aren't actually redlinks show as regular links? I've cleared my cache and refreshed the page, but it isn't working for all articles in this template. If you click on a few of the articles, links are showing as red in some but not in others. As it stands, only the final three links should actually be red. I've tried in two different browsers too, so I'm at a loss. Fear not; remedied it all manually. Seasider53 (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Templates are a bit of a dark art to me I'm afraid - glad you were able to fix it though. I've found folk at the WP:HELPDESK are always quick to offer solutions when I come across technical weirdness I can't wrap my head around. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 07:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

CVUA

Hello I wanted to ask what the requirements of becoming an instructor in the CVUA are as I am hoping to become one once I meet them. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 12:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Instructors are usually editors who have completed the course themselves, and who are experienced in counter-vandalism editing. I've only had a very brief look at your contributions, but from what I can see I don't think you've completed the course yourself, is that correct? If so, that would be your first step. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 12:23, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I cant complete the course. There is nobody in my timezone. Hence me wanting to become a Instructor. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 12:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry too much about the timezone. I'm in the UK, and my trainer was on the US West Coast - it's not too much of a problem. Have you approached any of the active trainers? Girth Summit _(blether) 12:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I think I have approached all of them including you except for Cassiopeia who is on the exact opposite side of the world. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 12:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I believe I have gotten turned down by everyone. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 12:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I was hoping to become a Instructor to better support teaching of people in the american timezones. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 12:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Cass has a couple of slots open - I'd suggest reaching out to them. Seriously, the time zone things isn't that big a deal, none of the training has to take place in real time. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Sock?

It wouldn't surprise me if a check has already been run against CafeGurrier66, but if not, there's ample justification to do so given their editing pattern.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Bbb23: Beans - I've emailed you. Girth Summit _(blether) 22:06, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Got it, thanks very much.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

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Thank You!

Thanks for blocking that Nazi. Glad to see you blocked them so quickly, sad to see this was the third bigot and second nazi I had to report in three days. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

No worries. I don't know how you came across them, but given that they hadn't edited since 2007 I'm assuming you were scouring userspace for objectionable content? Troll accounts that haven't edited for years aren't really doing any active harm to the project, don't feel the need to go searching for them. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Ironmacannie Mill

On 2 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ironmacannie Mill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that visitors to Balmaclellan in Scotland can stay in a historic watermill that is "remarkable" for the preservation of its internal workings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ironmacannie Mill. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ironmacannie Mill), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Indian IPv6 range editing issue

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Stricter block for Indian IPv6 ranges due to sockpuppetry. Thank you. Please take a look at it as you are the latest blocking admin for one of these ranges. — B. L. I. R. 00:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I could have just use the "thanks" button...

But these things are important to me. I should have joined the Apostrophe Society. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Ha - do you know that I've had more 'thank' notifications for that than for any other edit I've made? That society must have quite a few members around here. Girth Summit _(blether) 05:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Thank You!

Thanks for blocking that Nazi. Glad to see you blocked them so quickly, sad to see this was the third bigot and second nazi I had to report in three days. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

No worries. I don't know how you came across them, but given that they hadn't edited since 2007 I'm assuming you were scouring userspace for objectionable content? Troll accounts that haven't edited for years aren't really doing any active harm to the project, don't feel the need to go searching for them. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Ironmacannie Mill

On 2 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ironmacannie Mill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that visitors to Balmaclellan in Scotland can stay in a historic watermill that is "remarkable" for the preservation of its internal workings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ironmacannie Mill. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ironmacannie Mill), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Indian IPv6 range editing issue

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Stricter block for Indian IPv6 ranges due to sockpuppetry. Thank you. Please take a look at it as you are the latest blocking admin for one of these ranges. — B. L. I. R. 00:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I could have just use the "thanks" button...

But these things are important to me. I should have joined the Apostrophe Society. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Ha - do you know that I've had more 'thank' notifications for that than for any other edit I've made? That society must have quite a few members around here. Girth Summit _(blether) 05:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

If you get a second...

GS, I value your experience a lot so I'm asking you to just take a look at this discussion. I'm concerned with possibly a compromised account which only deepens in concern after looking at their contributions but it could just be them trolling and I'm not discussing it further either way. I'm not asking you to get involved unless you feel compelled but I thought at least best to bring it up to an admin. It started with the removal of updated sourcing and information by another editor that was cleared up on the talk page of the originator. --ARoseWolf 19:46, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi - sorry, on my phone at the moment and not able to investigate properly. I'll take a look tomorrow: if they start doing anything really off-the-wall then report to AIV. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 21:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I could have just hit the "Thank's" button but that seems so impersonal (lol). Thank you for looking into this. I appreciate your comment. --ARoseWolf 13:56, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For catching a sock who clearly does not like you. I had no clue they were a sock of that person and simply reverted them because they reverted an IP that constructively added a wikilink to an article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:18, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

There's no magic to it - the CU tool makes them very easy to spot once you know what you're looking for. Unusual for them to troll through an account though - most of their logged-in editing isn't usually problematic, the issue is that they have a habit of logging out to leave abuse on the talk pages of people they get into disputes with. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:25, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Interesting. I find it funny how sometimes I happen to stumble upon a sock purely by accident. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Page redirect

Might you be able to force a redirect of 134-142 Houston Street to 134–142 Houston Street? If not, I can put in a request. On mobile currently, that’s all. Seasider53 (talk) 20:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Girth Summit,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 804 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 847 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Sent 05:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

IP now at Alex Lasry

If you are still around, using an IP now to insert same edits. Protection/Blocks, whatever you can do. Otherwise Ill raise at AIV/RFPP in a bit. Slywriter (talk) 13:09, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

My hands are somewhat tied by CU policy with regards to discussing specific IPs, but there has been so much sockpuppetry there in recent days that I'm happy to go ahead and semi-protect it to prevent further abuse- done. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Understood, I'll word my edit summaries and requests more carefully in future when dealing with IPs as stopping disruption was the important part here, regardless of editor/editors involved. Slywriter (talk) 13:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Nobh4321

Not very clever, reusing these names blocked for sockpuppetry at another Wiki.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

That's... weird. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment

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